by Sharon Rondeau
(Jun. 3, 2022) — Toward the end of Tuesday’s edition of Fox News Channel’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL1) told host Tucker Carlson that a “whistleblower” informed him that for at least a decade, the FBI has maintained a “working space” within the Washington, DC office of the international law firm Perkins Coie.
Not only did the FBI have its “working space” at the firm, Gaetz said, but the arrangement was also “operated” by then-Perkins Coie attorney Michael Sussmann, who earlier Tuesday was acquitted by a Washington, DC jury on one count of lying to the FBI.
Sussmann’s indictment accused him of lying about his motive for requesting a meeting in September 2016 with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker and specifically, whether or not Sussmann represented a client.
According to Baker’s testimony in last week’s trial, during the meeting Sussmann told Baker he did not represent a client in the matter and had requested the meeting only to “help the Bureau.”
Prosecution exhibits released during the course of the trial allegedly show that Perkins Coie billed the Clinton campaign for the time involved in Sussmann’s meeting with Baker.
In its May 24 coverage of the trial, The New York Post reported that as it pertained to the origins of the FBI’s investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign stemming from Sussmann’s meeting with Baker and the now-infamous Steele “dossier,” Sussmann’s identity was placed on a “close hold,” meaning it was not revealed.
Perkins Coie has long represented Democrats in one of its specialty areas, “political law.” Former Perkins Coie attorney Marc Elias, who last year launched his own “mission”-driven firm with several other Perkins Coie colleagues, served as counsel to Organizing for America (OFA), Barack Obama’s political organization. OFA later became a non-profit, “Organizing for Action,” but is now merged with the National Democratic Redistricting Committee (NDRC).
On October 29, 2017, The Federalist reported that “Former president Barack Obama’s official campaign organization has directed nearly a million dollars to the same law firm that funneled money to Fusion GPS, the firm behind the infamous Steele dossier. Since April of 2016, Obama For America (OFA) has paid over $972,000 to Perkins Coie, records filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) show.”
Perkins Coie also represented the Obama White House in legal challenges to Obama’s constitutional eligibility, including resorting to “threatening sanctions against opposing counsel if he doesn’t withdraw his appeal.”
“The warning from Robert F. Bauer of the Washington firm Perkins Cole was delivered via letter to the plaintiff’s attorney, John D. Hemenway,” WND reported on April 9, 2009. “It is not the first such warning issued. Lawyers trying to kill a similar California lawsuit filed on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes also said they would seek sanctions against the plaintiff’s attorneys in that case unless they left the issue of the president’s eligibility alone.”
In August 2009, WND reported:
President Obama may be using his political action committee funds to stomp out eligibility lawsuits brought by Americans, as he has paid more than $1.35 million to his top lawyer since the election…
Federal Election Commission records for “Obama for America” show that the lobby organization has paid international law firm Perkins Coie exactly $1,352,378.95 since the 2008 election.
In 2016, Perkins Coie represented the “Hillary for America” presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC), with Elias hiring Fusion GPS to conduct “opposition research” against Hillary Clinton’s future general-election opponent, businessman Donald J. Trump. In turn, Fusion hired former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele to collect evidence of any connections between Trump and Russia, with Steele later compiling the information into the now-discredited “dossier.”
From Sussmann’s claim to Baker that Trump Tower in New York maintained regular communications with the Russian Alfa Bank, the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” probed every aspect of the Trump campaign coupled with circular news reporting alleging improper Trump-Russia connections shortly before the election. The reporting first ensnared former Trump associate, Carter Page, in allegations that he improperly met with a Russian government representative, prompting the FBI to monitor his movements and communications through a FISA warrant obtained by sleight-of-hand.
In May 2017, two months after Trump tweeted that the Obama regime had “wire tapped” his campaign, then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein retained a special counsel in the person of former FBI Director Robert Mueller, who would spend nearly two years and approximately $40 million probing former Trump campaign aides and current associates seeking evidence of “collusion,” and later, “obstruction of justice.”
In March 2019, Mueller’s team issued a report stating that no conclusive evidence was found demonstrating that Trump or any of his campaign aides had coordinated with Russia. As to the claim of “obstruction,” Mueller wrote, no conclusion was reached.
The report belied the insistence by such congressional Democrats as Rep. Adam Schiff (CA-28), then ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee and now its chairman, that such evidence existed and would be made manifest.
According to an April 10, 2020 press release from two U.S. senators, the FBI knew at an early stage that the Steele dossier’s claims of “collusion” between the Trump campaign and Russia were unreliably sourced but nevertheless continued its investigation until Mueller assumed it upon his appointment.
Following the release of the Mueller report, then-U.S. Attorney General William P. Barr asked U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut John Durham to launch an investigation into the origins of the FBI’s probe of the Trump campaign given that there appeared to have been no credible intelligence justifying it.
In October 2020, Barr made Durham a special counsel, which insulated him to a degree from dismissal by a new administration.
In April 2011, Washington, DC-based Perkins Coie attorney Judith Corley, who then served as Barack Hussein Obama’s personal attorney, reportedly traveled to the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH) to retrieve two certified copies of Obama’s purported original, “long-form” birth certificate after Obama made a formal request for it.
The White House sought the record after Trump, beginning earlier in 2011, very publicly challenged Obama’s eligibility to serve as president and commander-in-chief in light of credible news reports issued prior to Obama’s 2008 campaign which said he was born in Kenya or Indonesia and not the United States.
In December 2007, then-MSNBC commentator Chris Matthews made one of the most seemingly uninhibited claims that Obama was not born in the United States, although later he would ridicule anyone questioning Obama’s purported birth in Hawaii.
Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution reads:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Although the Founders did not define the term, it is argued, referencing their own writings of the time, they were concerned about foreign influence on the nation’s highest office-holder and sought to avoid it at all costs.
In a March 23, 2011 appearance on “The View,” where he received a warm welcome, Trump rhetorically asked of Obama, in response to a question from co-host Joy Behar, “Why doesn’t he show his birth certificate?…I wish he would, because I think it’s a terrible pall that’s hanging over him…The other thing: if you go back to my first grade, my kindergarten, people remember me. Nobody from those early years remembers him…because if you’re going to be the president of the United States, it says very profoundly that you have to be born in this country.”
After much cross-talk and opposition from co-hosts Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters, Trump vehemently declared, “I want him to show his birth certificate. There’s something on that birth certificate that he doesn’t like.”
In an impromptu press conference approximately four weeks later on April 27, 2011, the White House released what it said was a PDF image of Obama’s original birth certificate retrieved from the HDOH. Prior to its formal release, Bauer, then serving as White House counsel, in an off-record session with reporters vouched for the authenticity of the “birth certificate” but had nothing in his possession other than copies of the PDF image.
At the time, Mueller was FBI director.
Following the presser, the media seized upon the White House’s claim to have released proof of its occupant’s birth in the United States to convince the public that “birthers'” allegations, including Trump‘s, of Obama’s foreign birth were unsubstantiated.
In August 2011, a volunteer investigative group of the Maricopa County Sheriff Office (MCSO) received then-Sheriff Arpaio’s approval to launch a probe into the authenticity of the “long-form” birth certificate image as a result of 242 of Arpaio’s constituents having requested it, concerned that their votes in the 2012 presidential election would be disenfranchised if the image were proven fraudulent.
On March 1, 2012, the first of three formal press conferences reporting on the group’s progress was held, with lead investigator Mike Zullo revealing that probable cause existed to believe the PDF image to be a forgery, along with Obama’s purported Selective Service registration form.
Rather than investigate, the mainstream media scoffed at the assertions and instead turned their ire on Arpaio.
On July 17, 2012, the second press conference took place, revealing a higher level of detail as to how investigators reached their conclusions that Obama’s only publicly-proffered documentation consisted of forgeries which Arpaio contended posed a serious national-security issue which the FBI and Congress must investigate.
The following day, this publication contacted the Washington, DC office of the FBI to inquire if it were aware of the press conference and whether it intended to act upon the revelations made therein. As we previously reported, “the FBI showed no interest in the findings of forgery and fraud. On July 18, 2012, a day after a second presser on the matter was held which revealed more details and stated the hurdle of probable cause cleared, this writer spoke to an FBI media representative who told us that he personally viewed the entire press conference and advised anyone concerned that a crime had been committed to “contact your congressman.”
In a December 2, 2017 interview with “Freedom Friday,” nearly a year after the final “birth certificate” press conference on December 15, 2016, Zullo drew striking connections among “players” at Perkins Coie relative to the birth-certificate release as well as predicted that the Fusion GPS claims of Trump-Russia “collusion” would prove to be false.
In the video version of the interview, host Carl Gallups ran footage from the December 2016 presser, which was only scantily covered by the media. Just before a commercial break at 34:09, Gallups said to Zullo, “When we come back, I want you to draw this Perkins Coie connection a little bit deeper…and then we’ll reiterate what the breaking, exclusive information that you revealed today…” [sic]
At 34:38, Gallups launched the new segment with, “I want Mike to draw this Perkins Coie connection, because Mike and I…were dealing with this whole Perkins Coie connection for years, and now, of course, it’s coming out that they’re deeply connected to Mueller and to Comey and to Fusion GPS and the Clintons and the sale of uranium and to Russia, and these are the people that were handling the birth certificate…”
In response, Zullo said:
Perkins Coie goes back to what I said earlier: Robert Bauer was White House counsel. But prior to that, he was an attorney at Perkins Coie, and he was Obama’s personal attorney. When he moved over to White House counsel position, that was handed over to Judith Corley…who went and picked up the purported copies of the birth certificate from the Department of Health in Hawaii in an overnight trip. Now it’s imperative to understand: why did they use Judith Corley? Because it becomes a personal matter, and now those birth certificates are relieved of going through the normal government document archiving procedures that would happen if they were picked up by the White House. So they circumvent all that. So nobody knows what was ever picked up…
Bob Bauer, who is White House counsel, is married to Anita Dunn. Anita Dunn is Obama’s communications director when he first got into the White House; she’s also a Democrat strategist. So you’ve got Bauer, his former personal attorney, former attorney with Perkins Coie, now in the White House with his wife, doing their communication work together. You’ve got Corley, Perkins Coie, picking up the documents; you have Bob Bauer coordinating that press conference where he gives this long explanation of what it took to get a long-form birth certificate that we all know it’s nonsense, but he said it and it’s on record. So you have all that going together, and then what do you get? Not only do you have Perkins Coie now representing Obama in challenges to his birth certificate to the tune of over $1.3 million; now you have them implicated in the phony Fusion GPS, the phony document dossier, that may have been used to fester and launch this Russian collusion investigation that mark my words, that’s going to come back to be a scam, and you have all of these players all involved.
And 28, 2022 interview discussing the FBI in relation to the birth-certificate probe, Zullo told us, “…if our investigation was actually nonsense, the FBI would have jumped in immediately. The Secret Service would have jumped in. They didn’t jump in because they could not investigate it.”
In response to our question as to why the FBI “couldn’t” investigate his findings, Zullo responded, “Because they would have to come to the conclusions. We had a corrupt DOJ and a corrupt FBI and spineless Republicans.”
Zullo has said that during the course of his 5+-year investigation, two U.S. intelligence agents admitted to him that it is well-known in the nation’s capital that Obama was not born in the United States. “It has been an open secret in the intelligence community and DC that Obama could never satisfy the constitutional requirement of being born on American soil,” he told Gallups on August 17, 2018.
In his 2020 memoir, Arpaio dedicated a chapter to the birth-certificate investigation for which he hand-picked Zullo. “Imagine the ramifications and the irony of it all,” he wrote. “After all my hard work and dedication to enforcing illegal immigration laws, America could have possibly elected a naturalized citizen, born of a U.S. citizen, but constitutionally unqualified to serve as president, to two terms as commander-in-chief and, for too many, it’s just too much to bear. With all that is coming out now, in relation to the government’s intelligence coup d’état, the only hope that history gets this right in the near term is an unfettered President Donald J. Trump in a second term. If not, history may not tell the real story for 50 years—if ever.”
They were as close as a married couple sleeping in bed.
As other articles have explained, the FBI has secure workstations in a variety of locations for a variety of legitimate purposes
Cite one of those other articles explaining one/more legitimate purposes of the FBI’s secure workstation in the DNC’s, Obama’s and Hillary’s ‘on speed dial’ law firm other than aiding and abetting the BIG “Trump-Russia Collusion” LIE.
It is a behind a paywall, but this article dispels the salacious innuendo:
https://washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/3/fbis-workspace-democratic-aligned-law-firm-raises-/
The following text in quotes borrowed from commenters on another website:
“The Founding Fathers relied upon Emerich de Vattel’s “Law of Nations” definition of natural born: “As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights; The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; In order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” This definition was based on natural law, which we know the Founders used as the base principle design of the Constitution.”
“The original intent of the Founders was to ensure loyalty to the US and not allow for divided loyalties. Many use the 14th Amendment to define citizen; but “naturalization” in the 14th Amendment was intended to allow for former slaves to be considered citizens. It was not intended to replace the citizenship definition as stated in this Article (footnote 1) of the Constitution.”
“By that “Law of Nations” definition, then President Obama is not natural born as his father was not a U.S. Citizen at the time of his birth; and his mother was on a student Visa at the time at the Honolulu University, if I understand it right. That means he would have to be Naturalized to be a citizen and so ineligible for the office; regardless of the birth certificate issue.”
Some day, trolls at The Post &Email website will discern the difference between a natural born (US) Citizen and a statutory (US) citizen, but I will not hold my breath.
Footnote 1: US Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5.
Some anonymous commenter’s belief notwithstanding, there’s no evidence the Framers relied on Vattel when drafting the natural-born-citizen clause. It is a notion that even has been rejected in court.
And someone should tell this anonymous commenter that Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen, and therefore wouldn’t need a visa to attend school in the United States.
Regardless, naturalized citizens are not natural-born citizens, but courts have repeatedly ruled, minor exceptions aside, those born in the United States are natural-born citizens.
Perhaps one day people will be able to discern between their personal beliefs and rulings from courts, which carry the force of law.
Not sure why you think Obama’s mother was here on a student visa. She was born in Wichita, Kansas.
US Courts do not recognize Vattel as the source for presidential eligiblity in the Constitution. It is considered settled law
I will accept Benjamin Franklin’s thoughts and words over those trolls who would like us birthers to go away. Your deflecting words and theories will not sway the facts that I have learned about what constitutes a natural born Citizen. I have seen the damage that has been wrought on the USA since the Article II qualification was tossed into the toilet, first by burn-pile Chester Arthur, then the undocumented purported 44th POtuS from who-knows-where, the heels-up giggler from Jamaica, and lastly those RINOs that ran for the presidency who were not natural born Citizens.
https://en.calameo.com/read/0057551423dd6150d9c09
Franklin thanked Dumas in 1775, and was referring to the members of the Second Continental Congress. The U.S. Constitution was drafted in 1787 at the Constitutional Convention. That’s a dozen years apart.
So, again, there’s no evidence the Framers of the U.S. Constitution at the 1787 Constitutional Convention relied on Vattel when drafting the natural born citizen clause.
Truth is neither a deflection nor a theory.
I hope some day when all those on this website are reclaimed by nature, forever, that The Post & Email archives all its publications and comments in, say, The Library of Congress, and other places. That way historians can see in distant 2D what we herein express in living 3D on the Obama presIDent-fraud and the Obama fraud deniers like “Peter H. Burnett”, since 08-28-09.
Why would the Library of Congress be interested in an internet commenter acknowledging that officials from the State of Hawaii certified and verified that Obama was born there?
Treason! The U.S. is run by domestic terrorists and traitors: https://www.wnd.com/2022/06/treason-u-s-run-domestic-terrorists-traitors/
It is ironic when Wayne Root writes, “You couldn’t make this stuff up,” when he supplies literally no evidence to support his beliefs.
As if he made them up.
Is the Obama Birth Certificate the Next Hoax to be Outed? https://www.thepostemail.com/2019/04/27/is-the-obama-birth-certificate-the-next-hoax-to-be-outed/
What U.S. President in the Post Founding Generation History Has Multiple Sources in a Foreign Country Saying He Was Born There? Answer: Obama. Kenyan Government Officials and Newspapers Say He was Born There: https://www.scribd.com/doc/53259902/What-U-S-Pres-in-History-Has-Multiple-Sources-in-Foreign-Country-Saying-He-Was-Born-There and https://www.kerchner.com/images/protectourliberty/obamaborninkenyanotnativeamerican-20100503-5-withdate.jpg
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
The answer to that 2019 article continues to be: No, because it was never a hoax.
Blasts from the Past:
A Suggested Narrative – How Obama is physically Born in Kenya but still Obtains Hawaiian Birth Registration Record: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2019/12/30/blast-from-the-past-a-suggested-narrative-how-obama-is-born-in-kenya-and-yet-has-a-hawaiian-birth-registration-record-3/
What U.S. President in Post Founding Era History Has Multiple Sources in Foreign Country Saying He Was Born There? https://www.scribd.com/doc/53259902/What-U-S-Pres-in-History-Has-Multiple-Sources-in-Foreign-Country-Saying-He-Was-Born-There and https://www.kerchner.com/images/protectourliberty/obamaborninkenyanotnativeamerican-20100503-5-withdate.jpg
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
The “suggested narrative” provides no evidence in support. And is contradicted by the information on Obama’s birth certificate.
Again, you ignore these inconvenient facts. Why?
What U.S. President in the Post Founding Generation History Has Multiple Sources in a Foreign Country Saying He Was Born There? Answer: Obama. Kenyan Government Officials and Newspapers Say He was Born There: https://www.scribd.com/doc/53259902/What-U-S-Pres-in-History-Has-Multiple-Sources-in-Foreign-Country-Saying-He-Was-Born-There and https://www.kerchner.com/images/protectourliberty/obamaborninkenyanotnativeamerican-20100503-5-withdate.jpg
No facts are being ignored; old lies are being ignored.
Neither Obama, his wife, nor any other relative said he was born in Kenya. There are contemporary birth newspaper announcements. Etc.
The lies don’t become the truth with repetition and age.
Obama – The Liar in Chief!
Obama’s ever changing early life narratives. Some examples:
Obama Born at Queens Med Ctr per 2004 Obama Family Article – In 2008 Obama Changed His Narrative to Say Kapi’aloni Hospital
Obama Bio for 17 Years States Born in Kenya and Raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. Then when he decided to run for President he changed it since he knew it was a constitutional impediment to his next sought high political office goal.
Plus more about Obama the liar and fraud:
More about Obama’s lies and document frauds and using stolen social security number at this link and also how Kenyan government officials also stated on the record in Kenyan Parliament that Obama was born in Kenya
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
Obama never said he was born in Queen’s Hospital.
Obama’s literary agent took responsibility for that mistake that first appeared in a lightly circulated pamphlet over 30 years ago.
Where was “Queens Hospital” mentioned in that Breitbart report or any other? https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii/
Queen’s Hospital wasn’t. This from the first link, however, is baselessly creates innuendo:
“Barack Obama could not get his story straight as to where he was born. Per Obama family story and article in 2004 Obama was born at Queens Medical Center. However, after Obama launched his campaign for President, Queens Medical Center denied he was born there.”
Neither Queen’s Hospital nor Obama ever said he was born there.
I heard Obama say that he was born in Kenya on the following video.
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/06/situation-update-game-is-on-national-guard-deployed-durham-update-dr-jane-ruby-on-novamax-jab-vax-kickbacks-to-politicians-obama-born-in-kenya-we-the-people-news-3632030.html
Skip to 29:37, then view and listen until 31:30…
That the old, fake “Birthers’ Delight” video was preceded by the ridiculous claim that Obama is related to Hitler should have been an indication that neither is accurate.
The original “Birthers’ Delight” video, uploaded over a decade ago, is labeled as a spoof, and was designed to both ensnare and mock those who believe Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii.
“Birthers’ Delight” is an intentionally poor edit of a speech from 2009, the original being easy enough to find if someone is interested in not falling into an obvious trap.
“Birthers’ Delight”: https://youtu.be/dJUxsFBwcbs
Your proof are two edited videos which have repeatedly been shown to be fakes.
Video 1 (surrender their rights speech) is an edited version of a speech given by Obama in Brussels. You can watch the unedited video of the speech and read the transcript here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/transcript-president-obama-gives-speech-addressing-europe-russia-on-march-26/2014/03/26/07ae80ae-b503-11e3-b899-20667de76985_story.html
Video 2 (I was born in Kenya) is a doubly edited video. The first edited version is from a satire YouTube channel. You can view it here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dJUxsFBwcbs
The original video comes from a speech Obama gave to students in Turkey. You can watch it here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtRR7d8qIY&t=937s
And read a transcript here:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-barack-obama-student-roundtable-istanbul
The first link (The Rainbow Edition) is a high school newspaper. Nowhere in it does Obama say he was born at Queens Hospital. The author says it but since he is not interviewing Obama but his younger half-sister (and doesn’t specifically cite her) it is impossible to know where he came to that conclusion.
Evidence That Obama’s Birth Certificates (Long and Short Forms) & Other Key Documents Such as His Draft Reg Card Are Forged – Expert Reports
Something often overlooked in more recent times is that Hawaii has never confirmed in any official capacity the validity of the short-form BC and/or that they even issued the short-form Certification of Live Birth proffered as Obama’s BC in the early summer of 2007.
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
The birth certificate released in 2008 has Hawaii’s seal and a the registrar’s signature. That’s sufficient official certification for any government agency.
Hawaiian officials also verified the information contained in the birth certificate Obama released in 2011. That information matches the information contained in the 2008 certificate.
Post a link to one/more image9s) of Obama’s “Certification Of Live Birth” (short form) released in 2008 showing anything indisputably identifiable as an embossed official seal of the Hawaii Department of Health. If you can do that, then include a logical explanation as to how: a) the frontside could have a security border pattern that does not match any known pattern from any year; b) how the text placement in all the pre-2006 and post-2006 certificates examined is almost identical pixel-for-pixel but the image’s text placement does not match any known certificate from any known year; c) how the shape and kerning of the fonts used in the 2006 through 2008 certificates are identical while the shape and kerning of the fonts in the image do not match any known certificate, and; d) how the backside could have a “Jun -6 2007” date-stamp when Obama’s Press Secretary and later his Communications Director said Obama’s 2008 campaign requested it in mid-2008. If you can do all of those, then also include links to any official Obama campaign and/or State of Hawaii documents/records pertaining to the request of, payment for, mailing of and/or receipt of same. You know, the “Chain of Custody” thingy you OBOTS have often used to help substantiate the validity of the “Certificate of Live Birth” (long form) released in 2011. And finally, if you can do everything above, then also provide a logical reason why the digital image on Obama’s former White House web-site was sourced from Snopes.com’s public message board (to which it had been posted by a visitor) rather than from Obama’s 2008 campaign headquarters which allegedly requested, paid for, received, scanned then disseminated that digital image.
Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, verified that his analysis of [just] the typefaces used in the Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery. “My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter. Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that. This document is definitely a forgery. It would take 8 different typewriters to do the job. [There are] 8 different alphabet styles.”
As for the birth certificate Obamas released in 2011, Reed Hayes, a certified handwriting analyst and forensic document examiner who worked repeatedly for the DNC’s and Obama’s ‘Go To’ law firm Perkins Coie, declared: “In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated.”
The Hawaii embossed seal is purposely made to not copy or photograph. Here are two COLBs neither’s seal can be recognized
https://www.flickr.com/photos/_mjw_/15519977955/in/photostream
https://birtherthinktank.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/hawaiian-birth-certificate-race.jpg
The pattern is printed on the fly at the time certified copy is printed. They routinely change the pattern as a security measure. The microtype printing is what is key.
Not sure what you mean by pixel-for-pixel identical as certified copies do not have pixels. Hawaii does not issue digital certified copies.
Kerning – provide proof of your claim that 2006 through 2008 birth certificates have identical kerning.
Provide an actual quote from Press Secretary Gibbs
Director of Communications Dan Pfeiffer misspoke when he confused June, 2007 for June,2008.
The state of Hawaii issued a statement in which the said that Obama received both a short form birth certificate and a long form birth certificate from them. They go on to say that both contain the same information that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961.
“In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20190124041115/https://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/
Paul Irey was a typesetter and has little experience with typewriters or than he used one in the military this was pointed out by Judge Reid in Indiana. His methodology for examining typewriting letters is not standard as was also pointed out by Judge Reid. He also does not take into account the changes made by the scanning software in reproducing the letters at a lower resolution.
https://www.scribd.com/document/111951184/In-2012-11-1-TvIEC-Post-Trial-Order2
The statement you attribute to Reed Hayes is not supported by him,
“Some have indicated that my report to Mr. Zullo concludes with the statement that “I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects” and “the birth certificate posted on the Whitehouse website on April 27, 2011 is entirely fabricated.” However, as stated previously and also clarified in my report, I have no knowledge if in fact that document represents the birth certificate in possession of the State of Hawaii.”
He also says that the PDF of the certificate “may be a manufactured document or perhaps” a forgery.
He goes on to say that he only did one job for Perkins Coie not repeatedly as you alleged.
http://reedwrite.com/obama-birth-certificate/
The information on both the short form and long form are identical. Hawaii did issue a statement that both of Obama’s certified copies are legal proof he was born in Hawaii.
“In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawaii, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20190124041115/https://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/
Right from the horse’s mouth:
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2022/06/situation-update-game-is-on-national-guard-deployed-durham-update-dr-jane-ruby-on-novamax-jab-vax-kickbacks-to-politicians-obama-born-in-kenya-we-the-people-news-3632030.html
Skip to 27:30 and view and listen until 31:30
The belief that Obama is related to Hitler is exactly why terms like “conspiracy theorist” are bandied about.
https://rootforamerica.com/this-is-treason-time-to-admit-our-nation-is-being-run-by-domestic-terrorists-and-traitors/
Obama is destroying our Constitutional Republic and your picket fences defenses herein are assisting in this destruction, Peter H. Burnett.
It’s just a matter of crime.
Obama hasn’t been president for over five years.
And noting Obama isn’t related to Hitler is a defense of truth.
It isn’t a crime to tell the truth.
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/849-hundreds-of-articles-dismissing-conspiracy-theories-read-like-they-follow-a-single-script
Seems like Peter H. Burnett dismisses The Post & Email as a “conspiracy theorist” website, which complies with the mind slavery script expressed by so many of today’s reality deniers.
OBOT hatriots vs P&E patriots.
OBOT picket fences defenses = CRIMINAL
Certain commenters seem to be determined to try to convince others that BHO’s birth certificate is legitimate and therefore, BHO himself was a legitimate president. If those things are so, why the huge effort at persuasion? The facts would be self-evident. Why do they expend so much time and energy in this pursuit?
Certain commenters are determined to undermine the legitimacy and legacy of a former president of the United States. Why do their attempts to persuade often rely on demonstrably false information? Why do they expend such effort on a cause that was lost long ago?
Why would you care?
Is truth not worth caring for?
Peter H. Burnett:
Are the following world-wide evidences fact or fiction?
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM2GJn6hpJE.
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM
Both press conferences happened; they exist. They differ, however, in accuracy.
Officials from the State of Hawaii repeatedly certified and verified that Obama was born there. It is a generally accepted fact, and there’s no indication that will change.
Whereas Zullo’s voluminous claims are speculative, based on faulty information or logic, or rely on alleged evidence that Zullo continues to withhold. Zullo’s claims already have been generally dismissed or otherwise ignored, and there’s no indication that will change.
How do you know his information is “faulty?”
Zullo has been wrong in several instances. Zullo, for example, gave contradictory explanations about the coding.
Links?
Did Zullo ever figure out the Ah’Nee certificate number being lower than the Nordykes’ ?
If her certificate is a forgery then nothing in the December 2016 press conference con be verified.
Zullo said the 9 in race of father meant “not stayed” and that meant the field on the birth certificate should be blank (July 2012 press conference). This was incorrect. In 1961 the 9 meant “other non white”.
As shown by this 1961 manual on page 11.
https://myveryownpointofview.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/coding-and-punching-geographic-and-personal-particulars-for-births-occurring-in-1961.pdf
Zullo’s being wrong about the coding was discussed nearly a decade ago:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/code-9-the-cold-case-posses-big-lie/
1. “They differ, however, in accuracy.”
That statement is correct, in that, Obama’s birth certificate choreography was inaccurate information and Zullo’s professional presentation was accurate information that remains unchallenged by FBI and DOJ.
2. “Officials from the State of Hawaii repeatedly certified and verified…” is not generally accepted fact to those who objectively accept this following reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFwqUi3zR0&feature=youtu.be
3. “Whereas Zullo’s voluminous claims are speculative…” is a misleading statement since LT Zullo’s professional claims are, in fact, “investigative”
4. “based on faulty information or logic” is total hearsay heresy that struggles for an elevated acceptance as either hogwash, whitewash or brainwash; that statement alone appears to be mere calculated callousness to malign Zullo’s professional training by an apparent dedicated denier (Obot), as intended
5. “Zullo’s claims already have been generally dismissed…” by what matrix? Of America’s entire adult population over 21 years of age, what evidence of what percent of that sample adult audience has witnessed, and has fully dismissed, Zullo’s DEC 15, 2015 investigative reporting?
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” – John Adams
COMPETING (FACT + FICTION) = FACTION
You are free to believe whatever you desire, but Obama’s Hawaiian birth is generally accepted, and those who continue to doubt it are generally disparaged as conspiracy theorists or worse.
Silence from the FBI or the DOJ doesn’t mean they agree with Zullo; if anything, their silence is evidence of Zullo’s being ignored.
Hawaii’s certification and verification of Obama’s Hawaiian birth has been accepted by judges and election officials. That is, actual officials whose job it is to evaluate such evidence. And none have rejected them.
The Democratic Party of Hawaii did not “refuse” to certify Obama’s eligibility. Regardless, the Democratic National Committee did, and Hawaiian election officials accepted that certification; Obama appeared on the Hawaiian ballot in 2008 and 2012.
Zullo routinely opined about matters beyond his personal knowledge.
Zullo’s errors and fallacies are voluminous and have been documented and discussed; extensive critiques are readily accessible with any search engine.
The Maricopa County Attorney told Arpaio that his evidence was lacking. But more basically, despite nearly 15 years of efforts, those doubting Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate never rose above being the butt of comedians’ jokes.
“There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation.” -William Paley.
The comments of Peter H. Burnett herein appear consistent with a mindset of contempt of any investigation into the reality of Obama being a Constitutionally-ineligible presIDent; Obama was “quota-qualified” in the spirit of affirmative action, perhaps, but he was never Constitutionally-qualified in natural birth pedigree or in natural mind philosophy as a natural foreign-sympathizer.
Those humans who possess such a contemptuous mindset can hurl all the insults and mean monikers they desire, in my direction, but that will never alter the FACT that Obama never was, never is and never will be a U.S. Constitutional presIDent; on 08-28-08 Obama became the poster child of U.S. CANDIDATE-FRAUD and The Post and Email has publicized that fact EVERYDAY, as a national service, since 08-28-09.
Keeping an open mind means well, until it means “in one ear and out the other”! – JD Mooers
It seems there is a segment of the population thoroughly dedicated to discrediting everything Mike Zullo learned and revealed…I can’t guess what the reason for that might be! If they conducted their own investigation(s) and consulted forensic examiners, let’s see the evidence!
Forensic examination by computer image analyst who is not afraid to have his results examined by the public.
His conclusion:
“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”
https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/428-After-Birth.html
And here’s another viewpoint which was also expressed on network television: https://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/09/internet-engineer-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate-a-forgery/
Colby says there are 50 layers. There are only 9 on the White House PDF so it is unclear what he is examining.
BTW, Dr. Krawetz has a PhD in computer science and does forensic digital image analysis for a living.
Do not FORLAB and Reed Hayes do the same?
Reed Hayes is a handwriting expert, not a digital-image expert.
Regardless, Zullo continues to withhold Hayes’ and FORLAB’s reports, so there’s no indication what conclusions they drew.
All in good time…
“Do not FORLAB and Reed Hayes do the same?”
Maybe but that has nothing to do with Obama’s birth certificate.
This is Reed Hayes conclusion on his website:
“In short, there are indications that the Obama Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House in April 2011 may be a manufactured document or perhaps even an outright forgery. But without examining the original document housed at the Hawaii Department of Health, there can be no absolute certainty.”
“[M]ay be” and “perhaps” are not exactly full throated endorsements of the certificate being a forgery.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160901191455/http://www.reedwrite.com/index.php/2016/08/03/obama-birth-certificate/
FORLABS has never publicly acknowledged that they examined the PDF.
What evidence is there that FORLABS determined that the PDF was a forgery beyond some unsubstantiated claims?
“All in good time…”
So any day now?
When is that good time? Obama released his birth certificate a decade ago, and left office over five years ago.
It is easy to conclude Zullo will continue to withhold these reports, especially when, in April, Zullo said he won’t “publicly release” them. And there’s no indication “proper legal channels” are (or ever were) interested in them.
“All in good time”
Would that be 2030 or 2040?
“All in good time…” can be 2022: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/obama-information-comes-corrupt-obama-behind-russia-collusion-setup/
WHETHER YOU LOVE OR LOATHE OBAMA, HIS HISTORIC LEGACY OF LUNACY 08-28-08- TODAY, PROMOTED BY THE SATAN-SANTA $ORO$+PELOSI+BIDEN+HILLARY+OBAMA+KAMALA CRIME SYNDICATION, INDICTS EVERY SINGLE U.S. CITIZEN, WHO PASSIVELY OR ACTIVELY DEFENDS OBAMA, AS AN ACCOMPLICE-CRIMINAL AS WELL [OBOT picket fences defenses = CRIMINAL ].
Going forward today for the rest of time, all fawning Obama puke drinkers, who defend Obama in any way, are active co-criminals against our Constitutional Republic, as fought for and formed by Embattled Farmers and Embattled Framers!
There’s no indication that Obama will be facing charges now or in the future.
And it isn’t a crime to observe Obama is a natural born citizen because he was born in the United States.
What Post-Founding Generation U.S. President in History Has Multiple Sources in a Foreign Country Saying He Was Born There? Answer: None – Until Obama usurped the Presidency of the United States. See: https://www.scribd.com/lists/3248475/Kenyan-Gov-Officials-African-Newspapers-Obama-1991-Bio-Barry-Obama-Obama-Family-Mbrs-and-other-Accounts-Reporting-Obama-is-Kenyan-Born
Remember Hawaii health department official Lorretta Fuddy? She purportedly “drowned” in a plane crash? SHE and Stanley Dunham were BOTH members of SUBUD. Some people are of the belief that Mohammad Sumohadwidjojo, leader of SUBUD at one time, fathered Barrack Obama. These is so much unresolved controversy surrounding Barrack Obama that it behooves “We the People” carry on our efforts to get to the bottom of this issue., if it takes 50 years or more.
Some people’s beliefs notwithstanding, there’s no evidence Obama father was anyone other than Barack Obama, Sr.
OBOTS beliefs notwithstanding, there’s photographic evidence that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is the “spitting image” not of his claimed father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr but, rather, of SUBUD founder Mohammad Sumohadwidjojo.
A person believing two other people have similar appearances is not proof of a blood relationship. Whereas Obama’s birth certificate lists his father as Barack Obama.
Regardless, Obama’s natural-born citizenship is based on where he was born, that is, Hawaii.
As an aside, Sumohadiwidjojo lived in Indonesia and turned 60 in 1961.
What evidence do you advocate that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Barry Soetoro is the son of Barack Obama, Sr.?
Obama’s birth certificate says his father is Barack Obama. And there is no evidence that anyone else is Obama’s father.
Regardless, Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore is a natural-born citizen of the United States.
Some people’s beliefs notwithstanding, the lack of evidence that Barack Obama Jr’s father was Barack Obama Sr. is also evidence.
Please cite empirical evidence that Barack Obama Sr met Stanley Ann Dunham in Russian Class at the University of Hawaii in 1960, dated Stanley Ann Dunham, married Stanley Ann Dunham and/or lived with Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr at the address listed on the two newspaper birth announcements.
This Google search, “Picture of Barack Obama Sr, Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr”, yields not one such picture. These two Google searches, “Picture of Barack Obama Sr with baby Obama” and “Picture of Stanley Ann Dunham with baby Obama”, also yield not one such picture.
The lack of evidence is not evidence;
absence of evidence does not show evidence of absence.
That there are no photographs is unsurprising because Barack Obama’s abandonment of his young wife and infant child was a compelling point in the former president’s life history.
Regardless, Obama’s birth certificate lists his father as Barack Obama. Absent contrary evidence, that is sufficient proof for any government agency that Obama’s father is Barack Obama.
And, of course, because Obama was born in the United States, his parentage ultimately is irrelevant to his natural-born citizenship.
The University of Hawaii has indicated that both Stanley Dunham and Obama Sr. were attending the university in the fall of 1960. There is a record of the marriage in the Department of Health marriage index. There is a contemporaneous report of their marriage by the university to the US Immigration Service. Their 1964 divorce decree lists the time and place of their marriage. Obama Sr.’s immigration file records their marriage and the birth of their son, Barack Obama II. The address listed on the birth certificate and the two newspaper announcements is the same address that is listed for her parents in contemporaneous Polk Directories.
It is clear from fact Stanley Ann appears in Seattle in late August with her infant son is strong indication that the marriage was already in trouble. And certainly explains any lack of pictures of the father and infant although it does not mean such pictures don’t exist. There is a famous photo of mother and Obama taken in 1963.
There is no requirement that presidents must release every photo ever take of the president from birth through election.
Interesting here; WaPo says he “grew up in the Kansas heartland.” The paper never responded to my inquiry on that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/29/AR2008062901871_2.html?sid=ST2008063000002
It was just sloppy writing. In the ad being discussed in that article, Obama said his mother and grandparents grew up in Kansas.
“Sloppy writing” by The Washington Post? Unthinkable!
“WaPo says he “grew up in the Kansas heartland.”
The same article also says it is entirely false that Obama was born in Africa.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/29/AR2008062901871.html?sid=ST2008063000002
OK, but where did the writer get the “Kansas” information? Did he make it up? If part of it the article is false, is the whole thing false?
“OK, but where did the writer get the “Kansas” information?”
Peter Burnett gave you a pretty good explanation.
For example, this Politico article uses similar language (“he was raised with “values straight from the Kansas heartland,””) . The Politico article could be read as Obama was raised in the Kansas heartland. But in the Obama ad he was talking about his grandparents not himself (“straight from the Kansas heartland where they grew up”).
The Politico article is from June 19, 2008 while the WAPO article is from June 30th, 2008.
Did the Post guy crib from Politico and miss the nuance?
https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/06/obama-country-i-love-009803
Obama’s original ad:
https://youtu.be/NsueXFniP2E
Then that would indicate that no investigative research was done by WaPo. Shame on them!
You would have to ask writer how the mistake was made, but Obama never said he grew up in Kansas.
The text of the 2008 ad:
https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/06/obama-country-i-love-009803
The part about Obama not being born in Africa is true because there is evidence Obama was born in Hawaii. That is, notwithstanding the Kansas error, there is evidence to corroborate that Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore could not have been born in Africa.
There is no real proof that Barack Obama, Sr. WAS Barry’s father. The BC is a forgery.
More on the subject of the nefarious closeness of the relationship between the FBI and the DNC law firm of Perkins Coie covered with this article at the Conservative Tree House site: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/01/extending-the-political-surveillance-discussion-with-new-revelations-the-fbi-had-a-workspace-inside-perkins-coie-dc-law-offices/
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
Like Gaetz, that article claims but does not prove that the FBI and Perkin Coie collaborated.
Newspaper birth announcements, a PDF, a letter from the HDOH and/or a statement from an HDOH official who has since died do not prove that Barak Hussein Obama Jr. was born in Honolulu in 1961.
Proof could be making his original vital records available for public viewing, photos/video of his birth, a notarized statement from the attending doctor(s), nurse(s) or the facility in which he was born, or perhaps simply a commemorative plaque in a conspicuous place at his birthing place. Heck, a “Official Certification of Nomination” from the 2008 Democrat Party of Hawaii containing the required verbiage “under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution” in its certification statement could be proof. Alas, to the best of my knowledge none of the aforementioned exist.
“Alas, to the best of my knowledge none of the aforementioned exist.”
The certified letter of verification is legal proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.
§338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/2015/title-19/chapter-338/section-338-14.3/
Obama’s birth certificate proves he was born in Hawaii. Obama’s birth certificate was entered into evidence, without incident, in various eligibility challenges. That other individuals desire additional proof does not negate that Obama has legally sufficient proof of place of birth.
Hawaiian officials also verified that Obama was born in Hawaii, which was sufficient proof for two secretaries of state.
Hawaii’s vital records, for the most part, are private under state law. Any curious individual, however, may request from the Hawaii Department of Health the roll of births for August 4, 1961, and Obama is listed.
No president has ever provided photos or video of their birth or notarized statements from the attending medical personnel. Federal privacy laws prevent hospitals from disclosing the identity of the patients; no hospital claims to be the birthplace of any president.
The Democratic Party of Hawaii is not required to investigate eligibility, which is why Obama appeared on the 2008 ballot without incident.
None of which is relevant, of course, to Gaetz’s proof-free claim about the FBI collaborating with Perkins Coie.
Did Gaetz actually say the FBI and Perkins were “collaborating?” He said they cohabited an office space and that Sussmann “operated” it, but I don’t believe he claimed they “collaborated.” Whether or not they actually did would be an interesting investigation.
“Collaborate” and its cognates repeatedly appear in that Conservative Treehouse article authored by “Sundance.”
The Post & Email reported on no such claim. We reported on exactly what Gaetz told Tucker Carlson; no more, no less.
For me… the bottom line is… “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.” And while we may now never know the details or full “truth” of Obama’s illegitimate presidency… it has caused devastating ripple effects to our republic, which may never recover. “Justice for all” sounds good, but sadly does not exist in this life… but we mustn’t stop fighting for it. Thanks to all of you for your input.
Good comment, thank you Dr. Bush……..
All these people, both quoted in the article and in the comments, are paid operatives working for Obama: the infamous Obots.
First, how many people are revealing that the same day as Obama’s acceptance speech in Chicago, the Illinois State Lottery in Chicago drew 666. (which would make Obama the real, certain “certifiable” Antichrist.)
Nobody can handle that news.
Next, Obama’s second cousin Linda Joy Adams runs her own blog and says Obama’s really Barry Parks, Rosa Parks’ nephew and his real father Jim T. Parks was lynched by local KKK people in Kansas who were linked to Obama’s white family.
She goes on to state that Obama’s related by his family to the top brass in Washington, like Bush, Clinton, Cheney, Palin, Hunt, Ross Perot etc…they all come from the states next to Kansas like Texas, Colo etc….and visited with the Obama white family often.
All the birthers are guilty of covering up the truth because it’s “too hard to handle”.
Anyone can claim anything, but is there proof?
Jack Cashill did the most in depth investigation of obama’s eligility to be President. Cashill found that obama was not eligible but not for being born outside the US. Cashill’s investigation found that obama was indeed born in Honolulu, in fact he looked back in the newspaper archives from the time and found obama’s birth announcement in the Honolulu Star if my memory serves. The reason obama was not eligible was for the fact that his mother waived his US citizenship in order for her new husband Lolo Sotero to legally adopt obama/barry, so obama’s mother waived his US citizenship so the adoption could be legally recognized in Indonesia. The problem for obama though, is the fact that once one waives US citizenship one also waives their Natural Born status. While US citizenship can be regained by going through the naturalization process Natural Born status can never be regained. So there is no doubt that obama was not elibible to be the US President.
There’s no evidence Obama ever was legally adopted or relinquished his U.S. citizenship.
An NBC is one born IN the United States to parents who are BOTH US Citizens themselves. Obama never was and never will be a “Natural Born Citizen” of the U.S.
The courts repeatedly disagreed.
A parent cannot give up a minor child’s US citizenship. Expatriation has to be a voluntary act.
Read Perkins v. Elg
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/325/
Obama is not eligible for several reasons, and you need to take a closer look at the Honolulu newspaper article and what it does not prove…………
The State of Hawaii said Obama was born there.
They LIED!
There’s no evidence Hawaiian officials lied about Obama’s being born there.
The Democrat Party of Hawaii’s 2008 “Official Certification of Nomination” certification statement did not say Obama was eligible to serve as President “under provisions of the U.S. Constitution” as Hawaii election required it to do in order for Obama’s name to be on Hawaii’s general election ballot.
” …as Hawaii election required it to do in order for Obama’s name to be on Hawaii’s general election ballot.”
Cite the law. IIRC it only requires the appropriate official from either the national or state party to make that statement and in 2008 the national official (Nancy Pelosi) made it. And it was accepted by the Hawaiian chief election official.
The Democratic (note the -ic) Party of Hawaii is not the State of Hawaii.
Regardless, the Democratic Party of Hawaii wasn’t required to certify Obama’s eligibility in 2008, which is why Obama appeared on the 2008 ballot without incident. The Democratic National Committee in Hawaii did certify Obama’s eligibility.
Which Hawaiian hospital claimed Barry Soetoro’s, aka Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s, birth?
Federal privacy laws prevent hospitals from disclosing the name of their patients.
Obama’s birth certificate lists his place of birth as Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.
Unfortunately, with the Hawai’i board of Health attesting and affirming to the accuracy of the birth records of Obama, there is, in law, no “there” there.
As far as the law and constitution are concerned, Obama was born in Hawai’i, it makes him an NBC and that’s the end of the discussion.
There is no evidence that he ever rescinded his US citizenship, the only person that can rescind their citizenship is the individual themselves, no 3rd party can do it in their behalf and the process requires that the person has another citizenship they can hold once their US citizenship is terminated. The State department can’t make an individual stateless.
Adoption does not terminate an individuals US citizenship although the person MAY then become a dual national. Other countries cannot determine a US citizens nationality or citizenship any more than the US government can determine the status of a non US citizen.
Cite the US law that unequivocally states that a person who is born in the USA, regardless of the number of US citizen parents when the person is born, is a natural born Citizen (NBC). In fact, cite the current US law that contains the phrase “natural born Citizen”.
Obama’s eligibility was repeatedly challenged, and every court that heard the matter on the merits ruled he was a natural born citizen.
In United States, judges’ rulings carry the force of law. That the phrase “natural born citizen” isn’t in any law is irrelevant.
Obama does not meet the definition of an NBC which was legally established by SCOTUS in multiple cases: “One born IN the USA to parents who are BOTH US Citizens themselves”.
The U.S. Supreme Court never said two U.S. citizen parents are required for natural born citizenship.
As far as the Constitution is concerned, being born in Hawai’i makes him a citizen and, unless/until someone cites the Constitution saying otherwise, THAT’S the end of the discussion. PERIOD.
Various courts have disagreed, and have ruled Obama’s birth in the United States makes him a natural-born citizen under the U.S. Constitution.
Unlike the beliefs of private individuals, courts’ interpretations of the U.S. Constitution carry the force of law.
Link to this article shared at Free Republic site: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4068400/posts and elsewhere.
History forgotten is history lost. He who controls history and the past controls the future. And he who controls the present controls the past … paraphrasing George Orwell. The far-left is actively engaged in rewriting history and the past to change our culture and in doing so our politics and the future of our nation. So we must not let those who currently control the present major media totally erase the past history about Obama’s and Perfkins Coie’s nefarious activities. We must in every venue which we still have unfettered, un-censored access to, remind the readers of what a fraud Obama was in his ever changing early life narrative (first he said he was born in Kenya for 17 years with his literary agent and others and then when he needed to change that he said he was born in Hawaii … and in the Hawaii narrative first he said he was born at Queens hospital and the he changed it to Kapi’aloni) and also the forged documents he used such as the two birth documents, short-form and long-form, and the forged draft registration card.
For some more history and events see: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/archives.htm
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
Obama never said he was born in Queen’s Hospital.
Did Obama say which hospital he was born in?
Yes: https://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/obamaletter750x910.jpg
He wasn’t born in ANY hospital in Hawaii.
Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate says otherwise.
Obama himself used to say he was born at Queen’s hospital until Queen’s Hospital disputed his claim. Then he changed it to Kapi’aloni. And Kapi’aloni officially is silent on the issue and will neither confirm or deny Obama’s claim. Officials at the that hospital are playing along with Obama’s narrative change by keeping silent or dissembling and double speaking about it, but are not willing to outright lie for him by issuing an official statement from the Kapi’aloni Hospital saying he was born there. See: https://24ahead.com/barack-obama-gives-differing-accounts-which-hospital-he-was-
That letter which was allegedly signed by Obama was proven to be another forgery just like Obama’s short-form BC, long-form BC, and draft registration card. The document was created using cutting and pasting parts of other documents, i.e., the White House logo and Obama’s signature, with the text composed by someone else to once again deceive the public. Once again only digital copies were made available to be examined. And those digital copies indicated the letter was a composite compiled document and a forgery. The White House would never confirm that Obama wrote or signed the letter, because he didn’t write it or sign it. It was forged for him for an event in Hawaii: https://www.wnd.com/2009/07/104718/
That first article claims but doesn’t show that Obama ever said he was born in Queen’s Hospital.
That second article makes no claims about Obama’s letter to the hospital being a forgery, other than to suggest it is possible that it could have been forged. Possibility is not actuality.
Regardless, officials from Hawaii repeatedly said he was born there, which is sufficient for natural born citizenship.
“first he said he was born in Kenya for 17 years with his literary agent”
The agent’s brochure was written in 1991. 1990 New York Times, LA Times and Chicago Tribune articles say he was born in Hawaii.
“His own upbringing is a blending of diverse cultures. Born in Hawaii, where his parents met in college, Obama was named Barack (blessed in Arabic) after his father.”
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-03-12-vw-74-story.html
“His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.”
https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html
Children of diplomats such as a “finance minister in Kenya” are not born under the jurisdiction of the US. and cannot gain US Citizenship unless one of the parents is a US Citizen. That said, Stanley Dunham and Barrack Obama were NOT legally married. Senior still had a wife, Kezia Obama, in Kenya when he “married” Stanley Dunham. In any event, Obama Jr is NOT an NBC since BOTH his parents were not US Citizens.
Obama’s father wasn’t a diplomat; he was a student.
Regardless, two U.S. citizen parents aren’t required for natural born citizenship.
See more Obama life narrative and document fraud history and Dr. Polarik/Polland’s videos at: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDrRJP
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
Thank you Sharon. I see a good explanation of why both parties panicked over Donald Trump beating the promised in 2008 after Obama cover president, Hillary Clinton.
Notice how quickly the media “believed” candidate Donald Trump when, in order to shut-up the media so he could move on to other issues, Trump said, “I believe Obama was born in the U.S.A., period”. The media mostly dropped the issue after that because they wanted it to just go away more than Trump did.
Both parties violated their sworn oath to protect the Constitution by doing nothing to try to stop Obama’s usurpation, and they effectively gave America’s government and her military to her enemies. Once sworn-in Obama was both race and ineligibility protected. A HUGE crime was committed which was supposed to be covered by the planned and promised after Obama cover president, Hillary Clinton. When Hillary failed, both parties panicked to keep President Trump busy and remove him from office as quickly as possible. The stolen 2020 election was because BS impeachment attempts had failed to remove President Trump. The many complicit in The Obama Fraud were and still are protecting themselves from what has turned out to be a crime too big to prosecute. An, “unfettered President Donald J. Trump in a second term”, had to be avoided no matter what was required to make it happen. America is losing now as the complicit investigate the complicit to “expose” the lies of both parties in their attempts to remove President Trump from office, and find themselves, “not guilty”.
Sometimes crime does pay, and if a crime affects enough rich and powerful people it becomes a crime, “too big to prosecute”……………
If this just fades into history, America as a Constitutional Republic will be lost…forever.
Bob68
Bob68: Brilliant (same as usual). Also, KUDOs to others who have commented here. Needless to say, of course, the author of the editorial, Sharon Rondeau, is special. We all owe a debt of gratitude to her and P&E. Now, as to “How close were the FBI and Perkins Coie” when the Obama birth certificate (a FAKE) was released? My answer is VERY CLOSE BUT POSSIBLY NOT AS CLOSE AS THE CIA, JOHN BRENNAN, AND THE STATE OF HAWAII. Don’t get me wrong, the FBI is and has been operating outside the law and our constitution for several years now (let’s see, when did James Comey come on board!), and Perkins Coie is a RICO-like organization existing mostly for the “legal” needs of Barack Obama and accomplices of his in the New World Order and wanna-be communist Democrat Party. I have a difficult time coming to grips with the fact that no one of authority, influence, and/or power in our federal government has the true American patriotism to call out these crooks! Same for the so-called “4th Estate” news media. WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING AROUND YOU TODAY COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED IN ITS INFANCY (DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT AN “INFANT” IS THESE DAYS!), IF ANYONE HAD BEEN WILLING TO STAND UP BRAVELY (LIKE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS) AND RISK THEIR FREEDOM AND LIVES TO PREVENT IT! Time is running out- if it already hasn’t. Tom Arnold.
It would be advantageous to have some sort of gathering somewhere in order that we convene for the purpose of accumulating all of the evidence we have gathered so far. A meeting of the eligibility constitutionalists so to speak. Obama IS a fraud, usurper, traitor and spy. He must not be allowed to defraud the electorate and escape unscathed.
It is our duty NOT to allow this matter to “fade into history”. I’m going to pursue this until I die.
Blue Hawaii: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc5JE0JAqlk
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
Early history of this battle revisited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-2E65uFHM
CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
Given the lack of evidence in the article, the answer to the headline’s question appears to be “not at all.”
Hmmm … Peter sounds like a member of Attorney Michael Sussman’s Washington DC (ignore all the factual evidence) jury.
There’s no indication that Sussmann’s jury ignored any evidence. Juries are factfinders, and are allowed to discount any evidence they don’t find credible. The findings of those who actually heard the evidence carry more weight than those who did not. And the jury foreperson said the prosecution failed to meet its burden of proof.
Regardless, there’s no evidence linking the FBI to Perkins Coie. Gaetz claims there’s a whistleblower, but as this site’s Editor noted, “Anyone can claim anything, but is there proof?”
On the contrary, there is documented testimony archived on “Government Forum” which I also commented on years ago, that Obama PAID Perkins Coie over a million dollars to “find a way for him to bypass article II” eligibility requirements. There was also a time when confronted with a statement that he wasn’t eligible to be President that he retorted ” I am not running for President, I’m running for the Senate”.
There’s no evidence Obama paid Perkins Coie to find him a way to bypass the eligibility requirements.
There’s no evidence Obama ever said, “I am not running for President, I’m running for the Senate.”
There’s no evidence Obama paid Perkins Coie more than a million dollars commensurate with legal challenges to his eligibility for any purpose other than to find a way for him to bypass the eligibility requirements.
There’s evidence that C-SPAN either destroyed or locked-up their raw footage of the debate during which Alan Keyes said to Obama “You’re not even a natural born citizen.” to which Obama replied “So what? I am not running for President, I am running for the Senate.”.
Again, there is no evidence Obama paid Perkins Coie to find a way to bypass the eligibility requirements. That Obama’s campaign hired a law firm is routine for any major campaign. Obama actually was sued only in a few eligibility challenges; there is no evidence he paid “more than a million dollars” to defend against them.
And, again, there is no evidence Obama ever said “I am not running for President, I am running for the Senate.” There is no evidence C-SPAN destroyed its footage from that debate. The debate archives are readily accessible:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4486504/user-clip-obama-keyes-race
“So what? I am not running for President, I am running for the Senate.”
The actual quote which can be found at the Alan Keyes website’s archives is,
“I’m not running to be the minister of Illinois. I’m running to be its United States Senator.” Barack Obama to Alan Keyes in October 21, 2004 debate.
http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=370