Do Democrats Fear Trump’s Claim about the DNC Server is True?


by Sharon Rondeau

(Nov. 13, 2019) — At the first “impeachment inquiry” hearing by the House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence on Wednesday held to determine whether or not President Donald J. Trump should be impeached, Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA28) invoked Trump’s mention of a computer server belonging to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) said to have been “hacked” by Russian-government operatives to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

The subject of the server and the company which reportedly examined it for intrusions, Crowdstrike, arose in a conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on July 25, 2019, which prompted a “whistleblower” complaint claiming that Trump was abused his power by seeking political favors from Zelenskiy.

The White House released a transcript of the call on September 24, the same day Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi announced the official launch of the “impeachment inquiry.”

The relevant portion of the transcript reads that “Ukraine knows a lot about” the “Russia collusion” narrative, without Trump’s having used those words but referring to the 22-month investigation carried out by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III which concluded that no “conspiracy” between the Trump campaign and Russia took place during the 2016 election cycle.

“They say a lot of it started with Ukraine,” Trump is noted to have told Zelenskiy.

For more than three years, the government and media narrative has been that Russian-government operatives interfered in the election to favor Trump.  In early January 2017, the U.S. intelligence community published a report claiming that “Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.”

On page 12 of the 25-page report, the assessment reads, in part:

We assess Russian intelligence services collected against the US primary campaigns, think tanks, and lobbying groups they viewed as likely to shape future US policies. In July 2015, Russian intelligence gained access to Democratic National Committee (DNC) networks and maintained that access until at least June 2016.

  • The General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) probably began cyber operations aimed at the US election by March 2016. We assess that the GRU operations resulted in the compromise of the personal e-mail accounts of Democratic Party officials and political figures. By May, the GRU had exfiltrated large volumes of data from the DNC.

The report written by Mueller’s prosecution team states on page 1 of the “Introduction to Volume I”:

First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents…

Page 5 of the Mueller report states, in a section subtitled “RUSSIAN CONTACTS WITH THE CAMPAIGN,” that in “Spring 2016”:

Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos made early contact with Joseph Mifsud, a London-based professor who had connections to Russia and traveled to Moscow in April 2016. Immediately upon his return to London from that trip, Mifsud told Papadopoulos that the Russian government had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails. One week later, in the first week of May 2016, Papadopoulos suggested to a representative of a foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to candidate Clinton. Throughout that period of time and for several months thereafter, Papadopoulos worked with Mifsud and two Russian nationals to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government. No meeting took place.

In his book, “Deep State Target,” as well as in testimony to members of Congress last year, Papadopoulos claimed that his meetings with Mifsud were prompted by others in what now appears to Papadopoulos to have been an orchestrated effort to entrap him.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, too, determined earlier this year after a lengthy investigation that “The Russian government directed extensive activity, beginning in at least 2014 and carrying into at least 2017, against U.S. election infrastructure at the state and local level” (p. 3) and “the Committee found ample evidence to suggest that the Russian government was developing and implementing capabilities to interfere in the2016 elections, including undermining confidence in U.S. democratic institutions and voting processes” (p. 5).

Prior to the emergence of the “Ukraine scandal,” as Schiff has termed it, and as a U.S. Justice Department investigation into the origins of the “Russia collusion” narrative progressed, Papadopoulos and several members of Congress have said that “exculpatory” information in the form of recordings of Papadopoulos’s conversations with Mifsud and then-Australia Ambassador to the UK Alexander Downer exist and were not presented to Papadopoulos’s defense counsel after he was charged with lying to the FBI.

Papadopoulos ultimately accepted a plea deal but has said in interviews and on Twitter that the DOJ’s probe into the “investigators” who launched the collusion investigation, which is being spearheaded by U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut John Durham, will demonstrate that the governments of Italy, the UK, Australia, and Ukraine participated in a conspiracy to gather intelligence on and damage the Trump campaign.

On January 11, 2017, Politico reported that Ukrainians did, in fact, attempt to assist the Clinton campaign in 2016.  The article identified Alexandra Chalupa, a DNC operative whose name was raised during Wednesday’s hearing, as having “developed a network of sources in Kiev and Washington, including investigative journalists, government officials and private intelligence operatives. While her consulting work at the DNC this past election cycle centered on mobilizing ethnic communities — including Ukrainian-Americans — she said that, when Trump’s unlikely presidential campaign began surging in late 2015, she began focusing more on the research, and expanded it to include Trump’s ties to Russia, as well.”

Although the Mueller report associates Mifsud with Russia and contends that he lied to investigators (p. 201), Mueller’s team did not seek to prosecute him as it did former Trump associate Roger Stone, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, and former Manafort aide Rick Gates, among others.

Several members of Congress, including House Intelligence Committee ranking member Devin Nunes, claim that Mifsud is a Western intelligence asset and that if he had been associated with Russia, his travel to the U.S. in early 2017, acknowledged in the Mueller report (p. 201), would have been a national security threat.

For more than two years, Mifsud has reportedly been in hiding, allegedly under the protection of the Italian government.  On October 26, investigative journalist Sara A. Carter reported that Durham and Attorney General William Barr traveled to Rome to meet with Italian officials.  While there, Carter said, Durham and Barr “were able to hear a recording in Italy in a very closed room, nobody allowed in there, where Joseph Mifsud apparently explains why he believes his life is in danger and why he needs constant security. There is also information that he was working for Western intelligence…”

She then reported that former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper are “wrapped up” in the DOJ’s investigation into the “Russia” narrative’s origins.

On Sunday, Papadopoulos tweeted, “Alexander Downer, the Clinton errand boy whose bizarre behavior at my meeting with him sparked the Durham probe, was on Australian tv today ranting like a lunatic against Trump and me. The probe is closing in on him. He’s feeling the heat.

On September 30, Rolling Stone published an article titled, “that “Trump Knew the Ukrainian Conspiracy Theory Had Been Debunked — But Pushed It Anyway” based on a statement made by former Trump Homeland Security Adviser Tom Bossert and containing a link to an article from five days earlier titled, “What You Need to Know About Trump’s Crowdstrike Conspiracy Theory.”

The Daily Beast headlined an article on October 16 titled, “The Truth About Trump’s Insane Ukraine ‘Server’ Conspiracy” which contended:

President Donald Trump on Wednesday once again promoted the baseless idea that a Democratic National Commitee server that was hacked in 2016 is being held in Ukraine. Below is a story The Daily Beast published last month about this conspiracy theory amid revelations that Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate it.

Donald Trump asked for more than a criminal investigation of his political opponent’s son in his call with Ukraine’s president. Trump also sought help in reviving a long-ago debunked conspiracy theory that challenges the basic underpinnings of the U.S. intelligence community’s findings on Russia’s 2016 election interference, in a bizarre spectacle that sees an American president trying to conscript a foreign leader into undermining his own intelligence agencies.

On October 22, Mediaite wrote that “Trump Continues to Promote False and Debunked Ukraine DNC Server Conspiracy Theory.”  The same day, Yahoo! News reported that “The ‘server’ Trump keeps looking for will never be found, because it doesn’t exist.”  The article begins, “It’s the conspiracy theory that could bring down a presidency: the idea that an old Democratic National Committee email server is hidden somewhere in Ukraine and could rewrite the history of the 2016 election.  If it does lead to President Trump’s impeachment, it will be because he believed it.”

“There is no DNC server,” the article concluded.

On September 25, ABC News reported that “Trump’s Crowdstrike mention on Ukraine call likely referred to debunked DNC server theory.”  “Trump was apparently asking the Ukrainian president to open an investigation into what has repeatedly been described as a debunked conspiracy theory Trump has often promoted to defend himself against his Democratic critics,” ABC’s Mike Levine wrote.

No media outlet has offered evidence as to how it arrived at the conclusion that the server is definitely not located in Ukraine and that Trump’s apparent belief in the possibility is a “conspiracy.”

Several sources, including Stone, have suggested that the DNC’s servers were not “hacked” by Russians, but rather, that the stealing of thousands of emails transferred to WikiLeaks in 2016 was “an inside job.”

In the recent past, the mainstream media has referred to the suggestion that Barack Hussein Obama was born outside of the United States or that his “long-form” birth certificate posted on the White House website in 2011 is a forgery with those same words:  “debunked” and “conspiracy.”

As with the DNC server, such reports have not stated by what method the “conspiracy” was “debunked” or by whom, as neither the FBI nor Congress investigated the evidence gleaned from a 5+year investigation conducted by a former private investigator and detective under the authority of then-Sheriff Joseph Arpaio’s office.

In contrast with media reports on the subject, lead investigator Mike Zullo revealed on a radio show last year that two seasoned U.S. intelligence agents informed him that it is “an open secret” that Obama was born outside of the United States, raising serious questions about his constitutional eligibility to have served as president and commander-in-chief.

That concern was what drove the very “birther” conspiracy which the media has ridiculed, marginalized, and reviled while conducting no investigation of its own to arrive at the truth.

Zullo has implicated the “Deep State,” a term now commonly used in some circles to refer to entrenched, unelected government bureaucrats who seek to control U.S. policy in a variety of areas, in regard to the forgery and the attempted unseating of President Trump.

For his part, Sean Hannity of Fox News has called Brennan “Mr. Deep State.”

“I really believe that all roads are going to lead back to John Brennan,” Zullo said of the birth-certificate forgery.

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5 Responses to "Do Democrats Fear Trump’s Claim about the DNC Server is True?"

  1. JONATHAN DAVID MOOERS   Friday, November 15, 2019 at 8:44 AM




  2. Glen Day   Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 9:21 PM

    Below is a story that has never been “debunked” and reveals a wicked conspiracy by many of same people involved in the conspiracy today against President Donald Trump

    In the Fall of 2008, Barack Obama had a major political problem in his home state of Hawaii. The presidential election was just two months away and the Democrat Party of Hawaii (DPH) chaired by Brian Schatz had determined that Barack Obama was ineligible to be President of the United States per “ARTICLE II, Section 1” of the U.S. Constitution and should not be allowed on the Hawaiian ballot because he had not provided the DPH with a needed document(s) verifying his eligibility.

    As required by election laws, the DPH was responsible for verifying the qualifications of DNC candidates to ensure their eligibility for placement on the Hawaiian ballot; and the completion of the Official Certification of Nomination (OCON).

    What was the document Obama was unable to provide? Hawaiian law does not permit the public to know what that document(s) was because that state is keen on secrecy, especially when it comes to birth documents. But he did meet the age (47) and residency (Chicago IL) requirements of ARTICLE II , Section 1, so, all that remained was the natural-born Citizen requirement. To meet that NBC requirement, Obama would, at least, need a Hawaiian birth certificate; and given his bizarre history regarding identity documents, the only reasonable conclusion is that the (secret) DOCUMENT(s) Obama was unable to provide was his Hawaiian BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

    The Official Certification of Nomination is a required document sent by each party’s state and national organization to all other elections’ committees before each election. It gives the Chief Election Officer in each state assurance that candidates seeking to be on their state’s ballot are eligible to serve in the office they seek.

    Hawaiian law required that candidates for president provide evidence that they meet the requirements of ARTICLE II, Section 1 of the Constitution. Candidates who do not meet the requirements are not eligible to appear on the Hawaiian ballot. Hawaiian law required that its OCON contain specific language stating the presidential candidate meets the requirements of the Constitution. Since the DPH declared that Barack Obama did not meet the constitutional requirements, due to his failure to produce the required document(s), it was unlawful to place him on the Hawaiian ballot. Hawaii may be the only state that requires the specific constitutional language be in its OCON.

    This DPH decision was followed by a clandestine scheme of conspiracy orchestrated by Obama and the then DNC Chairperson, Nancy Pelosi, to get Barack Obama eligible to be president by any means necessary. The DNC illegally overrode the decision of the DPH and invented reasons to keep Obama on the Hawaiian presidential ballot. The national party just certified Obama as eligible, ignoring the decision of the DPH and his failure to provide the prerequisite document(s). This act corruption by the National Democrat Party is historically typical of that organization. ARTICLE II, Section 1 of the Constitution describes the requirements for president, but state authorities oversee the validation of candidates on their state ballot.

    In late October 2008, Obama was in the closing days of his presidential campaign and had lots of campaign stops to attend. But he also had to be in Hawaii for a couple of days to straighten out his eligibility problem there. His excuse for leaving the campaign trail was that his grandmother was dying, and he wanted to see her one last time before her death. But that was a ruse to hide the real reason he flew to Hawaii which was to attend a secret meeting with accommodating Hawaiian Democrat politicians. Obama first visited his grandmother, then attended the secret meeting which included the Hawaiian Chief Elections Officer Kevin Cronin; and with the help and acquiescence of these politicians, maneuvered himself onto the 2008 Hawaiian ballot.

    The scheme was to proclaim publicly that Obama was eligible though he was not, keep him on the Hawaiian presidential ballot and hide from the public the fact that the DPH had refused to certify him.

    At the August 2008 DNC Convention held in Denver, Colorado, Chairperson Nancy Pelosi performed her wicked hoax and created and submitted two different, sworn Official Certifications of Nomination (there is only supposed to be one) for Obama containing similar but different language. Both versions of the OCON were sent to the Hawaiian Office of Elections, but only one was sent to the other 49 states’ Election Offices.
    All the states’ Election Commissions were sent one Official Certification of Nomination with the following statement:

    “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though (sic) 28, 2008, the following (Obama and Biden) were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively.”

    The typo “though” is in both OCONs. In the above version there is no mention of Obama’s Constitutional eligibility as required by Hawaiian law. In the OCON sent only to Hawaii’s Election Commission, it states the following:

    “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though (sic) 28, 2008, the following (Obama and Biden) were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution” (as required by Hawaiian law).

    The difference in the content of these two OCONs raises serious questions about the criminal liability of Nancy Pelosi and the other officials who signed both documents.

    Falsifying a public record is a criminal offense that involves the altering, changing, modifying, passing or possessing of a document for an unlawful purpose. It may be called by different names depending on the state or be included as part of other collateral crimes. States charge the crime of falsifying a public record as a FELONY.

    All the OCONs were mailed to the various state election offices throughout the 50 United States. Once there, a clerk would receive them, date stamp them and placed them into a file cabinet where the DNC hoped they would never be seen again. But fortunately, the scheme was discovered and hopefully someday the schemers will answer for their crimes.
    It appears that Brian Schatz, a Democrat, put loyalty to the Constitution ahead of loyalty to the Party in refusing to certify Barack Obama as being eligible to be the president.
    Most of the media who learned of the above corruptive behavior by Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, the DNC chose to ignore it.

    See online articles written by Pen Johansson-Editor, The Daily Pen
    and by J.B. Williams, Canadian Free Press

    See video
    Democratic Party of Hawaii Refused to Certify Obama –

  3. JONATHAN DAVID MOOERS   Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 1:00 PM

    Message e-mailed to President Trump and AG Barr today:

    TO: President Trump, AG Barr and US Attorney Durham,

    GOD BLESS YOU ALL for dedicating your time, your health, and possibly even your lives to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

    I, and others, especially appreciate Citizen Trump listening to fellow citizens, like my acquaintance, Gabor Zolna, to act on Gabe’s suggestion to offer Soetoro-Obama II some $5,000,000 (later upped to $50,000,000 with no response) if Obama II would turn over his college records:

    REMEMBER PELOSI TREASON DAY 08-28-08 >>> >>> (by private-citizen Aaron Klein)

    And I personally appreciate that President Trump included my suggestion to Homeland Security et al in MAY 2017 to design the 30′ high Wall of Sovereignty along our southern border using weathering (self-healing) steel tube “bollards” filled with 5,000 psi concrete:

    Many other private US citizens, as well, have done the HOMEWORK FOR THE HOMELAND since 2007, and now, WE PRIVATE-CITIZENS ENCOURAGE YOU THREE TO DROP THE GAVEL LIKE A HAMMER ON GOVERNMENT-CITIZENS FOR THEIR ELECTION FRAUD+COUP ON 08-28-08, 2012 AND 2016. You all can see private-citizen homework entries presented, assembled and searchable-archived everyday since 08-28-09 at THE POST & EMAIL fingertip-accessible website:




  4. Cody Robert Judy   Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 7:58 AM

    Sorry, #Dems former VP not a viable Candidate to beat @realDonaldTrump He’s rancid in [Un-investigated Conspiracy] which is an #OPENDOOR disaster #MAGAChallange #utpol…

  5. Bob68   Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 12:05 AM

    This is why I believe the media did not investigate the, “birther conspiracy”:

    They did not investigate because they already knew Obama was unvetted and quite possibly both ineligible and an identity fraud. If the media did any real vetting of Obama they stopped when they realized what they were going to have to report on Obama, who could be “America’s historic first black president”. Both Congress and the media were very afraid of being called racist and did not want to know or report anything negative about Obama, the candidate they had quickly put on a pedestal and lavished with praise since the moment he announced he was running for president. The media created a pro-Obama momentum in their reporting which was irreversible and they could not stop it without losing their credibility…and being called racist. The Dems and Repubs both either wanted what they believed Obama would bring or they were not going to jeopardize their election by being called racist and a long list of other names…and some were just plain clueless.
    Once Obama was sworn-in it was too late to get away unscathed after helping install an imposter, effectively giving America’s government and her military to the enemy..……. so they chose to maintain Obama’s cover for as long as necessary……mostly to protect themselves. Obama’s alphabet agencies where quickly weaponized with Obama appointees and the installation of Czars who job was to monitor and report back to Obama anything that might jeopardize the huge criminal act that installed Obama. Obama was a perfect candidate for the Deep State to achieve their goal of taking over America’s government and her military from the inside out, largely because he is race-protected and once sworn in he was protected because the people who could and should have prevented his usurpation….…did not.

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