by Sharon Rondeau

(Jun. 23, 2019) — During the June 21 edition of the “Freedom Friday” radio show, former Maricopa County, AZ “Cold Case Posse” leader Mike Zullo reminded host Carl Gallups’s audience that former Special Counsel/former FBI Director Robert Mueller “defended” the NSA’s widespread, warrantless surveillance of American citizens in June 2013, the same month former CIA contractor Edward Snowden publicly revealed the depth and breadth of the NSA’s capabilities.

Friday’s hour-long interview touched on numerous topics, including the  “Mueller report” on alleged “collusion” between the 2016 Trump campaign and the Kremlin; government spying; Facebook’s censoring of the “Freedom Friday” show; sinister computer intrusions, including those likely committed against  “Infowars” host Alex Jones; the forgery of Obama’s purported “long-form” birth certificate as determined by Zullo’s 5+-year investigation; and President Trump’s role in spurring its release in 2011 as he publicly challenged Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president.

The podcast is here:  http://www.carlgallups.com/ffr/6-21-19.mp3

With law enforcement experience from the state of New Jersey, in 2011 Zullo was serving as volunteer leader of then-Sheriff Joseph Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse.” In August that year, Arpaio delegated the birth certificate probe to the CCP after more than 200 constituents expressed concern that their votes in November 2012 would be meaningless if, as several experts alleged, the “long-form” image proved to be fraudulent.

On March 1, 2012, under Arpaio’s authority, Zullo presented the evidence gleaned to that date demonstrating that the Obama birth certificate image was no more than a “computer-generated forgery.”  Similarly, Zullo reported at the time, Obama’s Selective Service registration form was not authentic.

As the investigation continued, both Zullo and Arpaio expressed bewilderment at the mainstream media’s lack of curiosity and the FBI’s failure to contact them so as to launch its own investigation into the forgery of a sitting president’s government documentation.

Providing updates on Gallups’s show whenever possible over the duration of the probe, for a time Zullo went quiet as he supervised the confidential-informant work of former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery for the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO), then led by Arpaio. A software developer, Montgomery claimed he designed a program for the U.S. intelligence community which Zullo has frequently reported can penetrate any personal computer, plant nefarious material, and camouflage the IP address with the intention of implicating the targeted individual in serious federal crimes.

The first portion of the interview invoked the “Deep State,” consisting of entrenched government employees who overstep their authority and violate Americans’ constitutional rights.  Many Americans now attribute the “Deep State” to an attempted coup against the Trump administration, and Attorney General William Barr has pledged to unearth the origins of the Trump-Russia “collusion” probe launched by the FBI and assumed by Mueller. After 22 months and $35 million spent, Mueller’s team concluded that there was insufficient evidence demonstrating a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russian government to impact the 2016 presidential election.

During the discussion, Gallups drew a connection between the “Russia” investigation and the creation of the fraudulent birth certificate image.  “Now that we have the Mueller report and the Steele dossier and a FISA court being lied to by government law enforcement…why can people not believe that the Obama administration took a day or two to make a fake birth certificate to make that issue go away?” Gallups asked Zullo (12:55 in podcast).

At 16:30 Gallups opened the topic of Montgomery’s revelations made to the MCSO in 2013 regarding government surveillance. “It could actually implant software that then would be undetected and could be programmed to pull information out and send it back to whatever government entity wanted it at any given time, completely undetected,” Zullo said Montgomery told him (12:15).

Recordings of Montgomery’s discussions with Zullo and MCSO personnel were released to the public by an ACLU attorney, Cecillia Wang, during the 2015 civil trial of Arpaio and other county defendants, Zullo reminded the audience.  “What could you do with this kind of information?” Zullo quoted himself as having asked Montgomery at the time of the conversation, to which Montgomery responded, “I can destroy you.  I can implant, through emails, child pornography on your computer and make it look like you were surfing the web for porn.”

“We know that the government actually did it and could do it, and we knew it years ago,” Gallups responded, punctuating the segment with, “This is the reason why Facebook won’t let us post this site.  The Deep State hates this program, but there ain’t nothin’ they can do about it!” (21:48)

After the break, Gallups renewed the discussion by reading from The Post & email’s article titled, “Exclusive: Montgomery’s Hard Drives Not Sole Data Given to Zullo.”  In terms of government surveillance, Gallups said, “They were spying on Sheriff Arpaio; they were spying on Donald Trump, who was not even a candidate yet; they were spying on you; they were spying on John Roberts, the chief justice of the Supreme Court; and they were spying on Alex Jones,” to which Zullo responded, “They were spying on Alex Jones, Donald Trump, John McCain, John Roberts…and also, Michael Savage.  There were numerous others; this is going back a couple years.”

Although then-Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper told the Senate Intelligence Committee in March 2013 that the U.S. government does “not wittingly” collect Americans’ communications, he was forced to admit three months later that he gave the “least untruthful” answer at the time in light of Edward Snowden’s revelations of widespread, warrantless spying on American citizens not suspected of a crime.

On June 14, in an emotional outburst on “Infowars,” Jones declared a $1,000,000 reward for anyone with information leading to the planting of child pornography on his computer which had been transmitted to the opposing counsel in a lawsuit filed by Sandy Hook surviving family members.  Jones’s attorney, Norm Pattis, denied that his client sent the material to the plaintiffs’ attorneys intentionally, characterizing Jones as “a victim” in what he said is now an ongoing FBI probe.

At the 25:00 mark, Zullo segued to the fact that Mueller was FBI director when Arpaio ordered the probe into the “phony” birth certificate.  “Now we understand why the FBI never came down knocking on our door, meaning the sheriff’s office, for all that information,” Zullo said, “because had they done that and collected it, they would have been obligated to investigate it” (25:30).

“In June of 2013, Mueller defended the NSA surveillance program, the very program Montgomery was telling us about, when he testified before the House Judiciary Committee during a hearing,” Zullo continued.  “Now if this guy isn’t ‘Deep State,’ I don’t know who is.”


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  1. And to add to what I just said, Perkins Coie (Obama’s lawyers located in Seattle) threatened to ruin me financially if I didn’t stop with the BIRTH CERTIFICATE allegations.

  2. When I was a presidential candidate in the Year of our Lord 2012, I received a letter from a Mr. XXX XXXX to cease and deist any further comment about Obama’s eligibility, calling him a “cheap suit” and wishing he (Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Obama) would “spend the rest of his worthless life in a cage in GITMO”.

    I wrote back to him telling him to go someplace and “how about showing-up on my front doorstep and ringing the bell and saying it to my face?”

    So, yes, what Edward Snowden was telling us was the whole truth and nothing but the truth: the government was out of control spying on us citizens, we who have not broken any laws, that is, unless one considers being a responsible citizen, as in “Patriotic and believing and supporting the Constitution” breaking the law.

    But wait a minute. Remember when Janet Napolitano called Veterans “terrorists”?

    So who was breaking the law? My gut feeling is that the Deep State has a Deep Depth, meaning that many floors of the FBI and other lower floors of the bureaucracy are likewise infected with some kind of sickness of the soul. Perhaps they deserve our pity, and even though I claim to be a Christian, I say not so fast: what say we do onto them as they would’ve done unto us? Tar and feather them and run them all out of the Beltway and towns across America and, as the coup de grace, revoke their pensions, and let’s say we start with revoking Lois Lerner’s pension, she who spied on us Patriots?

    And I say a big AMEN to that.

    And, oh, by the way: the letter I received had a CIA return address and Mr. XXX XXXX identified himself as a CIA agent.


  3. Bravo to P+EM for keeping this story alive and updating it with the Mueller/Obama admin fraud. Thanks to Mike Zullo and team, who put their reputations on the line in the name of truth and justice,. Will anyone besides Arpaio, Larry Klayman and the few other private litigators do anything about it?

  4. At least to me it makes sense why I was put on ice so long ago while this played out, even if it took 40 years. What will really blow minds is who my other half-siblings in government are – And still in place!

  5. The problem with getting the Deep State to investigate anything is their intimate involvement in the many crimes of the Obama regime. This applies to other investigations as well as looking into the birth certificate forgery. A system of laws and “rules” set-up by agencies and individuals who are part of or at least allied with those agencies is only going to work for honest people who will police their own and provide punishment commensurate with the actual crimes. Obviously, what we have in today’s federal government could not be further from that ideal.
    The investigators often already know the details of the crimes they are involved with and/or task to investigate, so the easiest way out is to just to refuse to investigate. If that cannot be done, then start endless investigations, plant fake evidence if necessary and finally after years of investigating end with, maybe, a few people being “reassigned’ or even “removed”……often with full retirement.

    After that close the, “successful”, investigation and continue with business as usual….rinse and repeat as required, embolden by their success….. (And write a book).