by Sharon Rondeau

(Feb. 20, 2019) — In an interview Tuesday with NBC’s Savannah Guthrie, former Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe said that in 2017, he and “members of his team” made a decision to open an “obstruction of justice” investigation into Donald Trump stemming from what McCabe said was “an articulable basis to believe that a threat to national security or a federal crime may have occurred” on the part of the President of the United States.

The possibility, McCabe told Guthrie, of a sitting president posing a “national security threat” stemmed from his perception that Trump “had gone to extreme measures to potentially negatively impact, possibly turn off, our investigation of Russian meddling into the election and Russian coordination with his campaign.”

Since Sunday night, when an initial McCabe interview was aired on CBS’s “60 Minutes,” the former FBI official has been on a media blitz in an effort to sell his new book, “The Threat.”

McMcCabe was fired in March, just before his planned retirement, and since been referred by the Justice Department to the U.S. Attorney for Washington, DC for possible criminal investigation for allegedly lying during the DOJ Inspector General’s investigation of the FBI and DOJ’s conduct during the 2016 presidential election cycle.  McCabe is specifically accused of having lied about the release of agency information to the press, a claim he denies.

A grand jury has been convened to study evidence in the McCabe case, The Washington Post reported in September.

“What were the predicate facts?…that the president may be a national security threat and may in fact be working on behalf of a foreign adversary, Russia?” Guthrie asked McCabe early in the interview.

McCabe responded that he and his team “looked at the facts” before deciding to launch the investigation.  As an example of those “facts,” McCabe said that Trump was “publicly undermining the investigative efforts” of the FBI.  “He’s talking about it as a witch hunt; he’s talking about it as a hoax,” McCabe said.  He also faulted Trump for having reportedly “asked” former FBI Director James Comey to “turn off the investigation” into Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn.

“Why would any president of the United States not want the FBI to get to the bottom of Russian interference in the election?” McCabe asked Guthrie rhetorically.

McCabe did not mention that it has been reported that Trump also expressed a desire, during a private meeting with Comey just after Trump took office, to have the FBI discover who, if anyone, on his campaign committed a crime or engaged in other misconduct.  He repeated that sentiment in an interview with Lester Holt shortly after Comey’s termination.

Trump also told Holt, “If Russia did anything, I want to know that.”

In recent days, some have suggested that McCabe opened the “obstruction of justice” investigation on Trump as a retaliatory move after Trump fired Comey. “Disgraced former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe has now admitted in his new book that he ordered obstruction of justice and counterintelligence investigations of President Trump in retaliation for Trump’s firing of FBI Director and McCabe friend James Comey,” Fox News reported on Friday.

Comey’s firing came on May 9, 2017, after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote a memo recommending it, maintaining that Comey had mishandled the investigation into 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while she served as Secretary of State between 2009 and 2013.

On July 5, 2016, Comey gave a solo press conference in which he announced that the FBI would not recommend that the Justice Department pursue a criminal investigation against Clinton for sending classified information over the unauthorized server.  Although listing a litany of wrongdoing on Clinton’s part, Comey nevertheless declared that “no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

Comey and McCabe are not the only high-ranking FBI and Justice Department officials to be terminated since Trump took office.  As of August of last year, The Epoch Times reported that 25 officials of both agencies were “fired, demoted or resigned.”

McCabe claimed to Guthrie and others that Rosenstein was “deadly serious” when he allegedly offered to “wear a wire,” as was reported by The New York Times in September, in private meetings with Trump in order to gather evidence showing that Trump was unfit for office and might be removed under the provisions of the 25th Amendment. Rosenstein’s office has denied that claim.

In an appearance Tuesday on ABC’s “The View,” McCabe denied having been The Times‘s source for the article, whose claims Rosenstein denied.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham has since said he intends to subpoena both Rosenstein and McCabe to testify about their actions in 2016 and 2017.  On Friday, Fox News first announced that Rosenstein plans to leave his post in mid-March, which quickly followed the swearing-in of Attorney General William P. Barr.

Approximately two weeks ago, chairman of the the Senate Intelligence Committee Richard Burr announced that after nearly two years of investigative work, the committee has found no evidence that anyone in the Trump campaign “colluded” with Russia to win the election, one of the bases for Rosenstein’s hiring of former FBI Director Robert Mueller to assume the role of Special Counsel and continue the FBI’s probe following Comey’s dismissal.

Likewise, last spring, then-chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes said his Republican colleagues had found no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. However, current committee chairman Adam Schiff has said that committee Democrats will not only continue, but also “expand” the Trump-Russia investigation.

Schiff claims that there is “evidence in plain sight” that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in 2016.

According to multiple news reports, Trump and his campaign came under investigation on July 31, 2016, although the actual launch of the “Russia” probe may have occurred months before. The Hill‘s John Solomon has regularly reported revelations from the probe demonstrating that not only was a “dossier” provided to the FBI by former British intelligence agent and Fusion GPS contractor Christopher Steele, but also the wife of the fourth-highest-ranking DOJ official, Bruce Ohr, provided a “memory stick” with additional and related information which Ohr passed on to the FBI, according to his sworn congressional testimony last summer.

Altogether, Solomon reported on Wednesday, there were five different versions of the “dossier” funneled to the FBI in unorthodox ways. Thus far, none of the dossier material has been verified.

Perkins Coie partner Michael Sussman was one of the sources of alleged investigative material who provided information on Trump to the FBI.

Moreover, the original “dossier” was paid for by the 2016 Clinton campaign and DNC with funds channeled through Perkins Coie to Fusion GPS, who contracted with Steele and hired Nellie Ohr to conduct opposition research on Trump.

Perkins Coie has long represented the DNC and Democratic causes.

The cost of the Mueller investigation alone is said to exceed $25 million.

In contrast, evidence gathered over a 5+-year criminal investigation into the “long-form” birth certificate image posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 was never taken up by the FBI, even after two forensic analysts were reported to have issued opinions agreeing that the image, said to represent Barack Hussein Obama’s original birth certificate from Hawaii, is a “computer-generated forgery.”

The Perkins Coie law firm was deeply involved in the release of the long-form image, with former partner Robert Bauer, then-White House counsel but soon to return to the firm, telling reporters in an advance, closed-door meeting that the image was about to be made public.

Despite having witnessed the law firm’s involvement in disseminating Trump-Russia “dirt,” the FBI appears not to have made the connection between Perkins Coie and the “computer-generated forgery.”

A close observer and confidant of the investigation, launched by then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio in August 2011, has said that Mueller’s investigation has a nexus with the Obama long-form birth certificate.  “A lot of what Mueller is doing and what the Deep State’s doing and their desire to get Trump out of office goes to the foundation of the fake birth certificate,” Gallups told radio host Bill Martinez in December.

Neither Comey, McCabe nor anyone at the FBI has ever issued a statement about the forgery of a document belonging to the then-sitting President of the United States who was credibly reported, before and after his first presidential run, to have been born outside of the country, which would have placed his eligibility in question.

The lead detective of the five-year investigation, Mike Zullo, declared last August that two U.S. intelligence sources told him that it is “an open secret” in Washington, DC that Obama was born outside of the United States and therefore could not meet the U.S. Constitution’s Article II, Section 1, clause 5 requirement that the president and commander-in-chief be a “natural born Citizen.”  Zullo has also said, “There is no original certificate; there never was.”

Perhaps ironically, Guthrie is the sole reporter to have claimed that on April 27, 2011, she “felt the raised seal” on the copy of the Obama long-form she purportedly received.  Photos she reportedly took of the seal and posted on social media are no longer available.

Zullo has said, however, that a reporter in the off-the-record session with Bauer correctly noted that no “original” birth certificate was shown to reporters.

Early in the investigation, Zullo revealed that not only was the long-form image found to be fraudulent, but also Obama’s purported Selective Service registration form, an issue which then-Selective Service System Director Lawrence Romo suggested be presented to the FBI if Arpaio believed a crime had been committed.

On July 18, 2012, an FBI spokesman told this reporter that he watched the entirety of Zullo and Arpaio’s second press conference the day before, during which Arpaio implored Congress and the FBI to open an investigation into what he saw as a “national security” issue given the falsification of a sitting president’s official government documents.


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  1. Why? Bob68 as usual nails it. Obama has always been a fraud and corrupt to the core. The FBI and DOJ headed by the malevolent racist Holder were there to run interference and ensure that the identity fraud evidence would never be revealed to the masses. Trump upset the apple cart and now the rats are scrambling.

  2. Jonathan David, Trump got a ruling in his favor in the U.S. District Court in D.C. saying that his signature would be necessary regarding any release of his tax records, which are private between the IRS and the taxpayer. A request would have to be made by the Secretary of the Treasury to the bi-partisan Joint Commission on Taxation. FOIA does NOT allow such disclosure unless the Secretary requests the JCT to do so. The FOIA does NOT require nor can it force the Secretary to request the JCT to do so. Disclosure is restricted to the exceptions outlined by law which must include a legitimate legal reason to force disclosure. The Court in Epic v IRS ruled in President Trump’s favor. He cannot be forced to disclose his Tax returns nor can that disclosure be extorted from him


    Let’s see now; nbC Donald John Trump can not run for President in 2020 unless he turns over his tax records? Huh? So, tax records alone might now define who can and can not run for President on New Jersey ballots?

    Where is that tax-related requirement, and associated restrictions on state Electoral College members, embedded in the entire U.S. Constitution or within New Jersey’s state constitution?

    Hey, Yo, Senators of New Jersey and FBI: WHERE’S OBAMA’S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE?



    TRUMP: MAGA as OBAMA: Hope and Dope (HAD)

    TRUMP: results as OBAMA: insults

    TRUMP: natural born Citizen as OBAMA: no birth Certificate

  4. Birth certificate registration fraud is more common than people realize. Here is an example of how people born in other countries were being falsely registered as born in the USA.

    Birth Registration Fraud. It’s Been Done Before. As reported by

    And also in this story learn about massive birth certificate fraud:

    Government document fraud is more common that people think and is another reason that the FBI should have looked into the Obama ID fraud charges but didn’t and in fact instead helped cover-up for him by ignoring and deflecting the charges being brought to it by concerned citizens, especially in Obama’s 2012 re-election bid.

    CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)

    I’ll never be 100% totally happy in my life until barry barack hussein soetoro soebarkah obama and the deep state are busted.
    Notice I didn’t use ANY CAPITAL LETTERS on the above names and I encourage EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE POST & EMAIL to do the same. The corrupt democrats do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to diminish President Trump and us. So the heck with them…THEY DON’T EVEN DESERVE TO HAVE CAPITAL LETTERS IN THEIR NAMES. I ain’t scared…are you? You don’t have to use capital letters on their names just to be “grammatically correct”…the heck with it…STOP DOING IT…AND SPREAD THIS.
    I love God, my wife, my family, my country, and my dog, but again…I’ll NEVER be 100% unequivocally and totally happy until obama and the cowardice deep state are busted. At least I admit it! I NEED HELP.

  6. Correction:
    In my previous post I meant to say CDR Kerchner’s information and evidence IS excellent, and not if….and I also left out a word.. Getting old is hard, and without the ability to edit…it’s even harder.


  7. Nikita’s_UN_Shoe,

    Great post and thanks for mentioning me.
    CDR Kerchner, the information and evidence at your links if excellent, very much appreciated and takes a whole lot of time and research on your part…….and I know you have been at this for more than 10 years. Everyone who will not give helps this old guy to remain hopeful also. Bob68….now 75.

  8. Hopefully soon Trump will be able to take some firm actions now that a new AG is in place and the Mueller witch hunt is going to be ended. Trump knows all the facts about the fraud Obama. A copy of my lawsuit against Obama, Kerchner et al vs Obama & Congress et al, and other information about Obama’s ID document fraud and lack of Obama being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States, was FAX’d personally by me directly to Trump at his NY office in the early spring of 2011. Trump is fully aware of all the ID fraud and other crimes committed by Obama. I still believe (hope) that once Trump gets full and unfettered use of his full powers as President and Commander in Chief, that he will expose all of this. The Deep State has done what they’ve done in large part to prevent him from getting to Obama and Obama’s crimes. Obama is the real orchestrator of the Deep State plot/attempted coup to prevent his election and to bring him down after he was sworn in. Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and John Brennan (and of course Hillary and her operatives too) are the real plotters and orchestrators of all that has been exposed in the last two years re the corrupt and criminal activities at the FBI and DOJ. These issues are not going to go away. The truth will will out eventually.

  9. McCabe and the majority of the Washington D.C. takers are using any excuse and any opportunity to eliminate President Trump from the Oval Office before his first four-year term of office has been completed to prevent President Trump from revealing to the world about the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the citizens of the U.S.A – aka Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama.The current Russia-Trump collusion hoax is among the cloak-n-dagger obfuscation efforts to blur this real reason.

    (paraphrased from Bob68) Donald J. Trump’s presidency is the foundational matter in getting to the truth about the illegal presidency of aka Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama which will reveal that all of the U.S. Congress, all of the U.S. Supreme Court, and all of the communists in the YellowStream Media were complicit in covering for the CIA-sponsored un-Constitutional illegal alien interloper aka Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama who has zero verifiable background documentation. i.e. Blackmailed by a putative black male.

    The Deep State flourished under Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama because its most vital mission was/is to protect aka Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama from being fully exposed as the ineligible, identity fraud con-artist that he is. Without performing that critical job everything else they had planned, and the Deep State itself, would be in jeopardy. They did not plan for Hillary losing and the “birther” Donald Trump being elected. When that happened, even when it looked like it might happen, massive panic took over the left and much of the right and is still on full display in the actions, and inaction of those complicit, and even in those who are ostensibly trying to expose the massive corruption.

    President Donald J. Trump knows all about the fake, the fraud, and the forger, aka Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama.

    The current actions by ‘Uranium One’ Mueller (aka the Shredder) and the stalling, aka Congressional hearings, and ‘trumped-up’ lateral arrests are all key in getting rid of President Trump via impeachment and trial before he gets a chance to reveal to the public the Constitutional crisis called the 44th POtuS. Hillary Clinton’s loss has the whole D.C. three-ring circus in a turmoil. The stench that everyone smells is the rotting fish, aka Barry HUSSEIN Zer0Bama.

  10. Why Didn’t McCabe Open an Investigation on Obama’s imposture? Because the FBI, all three branches of the US government, all parties, and Pres. Trump are in cahoot for burying this crime forever, while “we the sheeple” readily forgot it, hoping to go on with their lives, but they will not have one: they are already damned. America is damned.

    Now bow your head and sing in the minor key:

    God break America
    Back into states
    As this nation
    Has failed You
    And deserved
    her deplorable fate.

    From the mountains,
    to the prairies,
    to the oceans
    wavered toll,
    God break America,
    To save just small.
    God break America,
    To save some old.

  11. No investigations of Obama were done because the federal government, including all of Congress, already knew what the results of the investigations would be. Both political parties were already locked into protecting Obama because they did nothing to prevent him from being sworn-in as the putative president in spite of massive evidence indicating a real investigation should be done. The election of Trump instead of the planned and promised Hillary put the 8 year plus charade of Obama’s legitimacy in danger……and Trump is being gone after to prevent the Deep States biggest fear, which is having fully exposed and acted on the biggest criminal act against American citizens and her Constitution in history. My hope is that Trump and his administration will still get this done. My thanks to all the posters here…..and many others who have worked tirelessly on this most important issue and will never give up.

  12. If the FBI comes cruising by to read Sharon’s new article (I called it to their attention via Twitter), here is a link for them with lots of information and evidence that Obama’s early life narrative is a total fraud as our his key ID documents. The crime of the century awaits an FBI investigation of Obama’s forged short-form birth document, Obama’s forged long-form birth certificate, Obama’s forged draft registration card, and Obama’s use of a stolen Social Security Number of a deceased person from Connecticut since 1986: