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“OBAMAS BIRTHPLACE”

by Sharon Rondeau

An image purporting to be a scan of a certified copy of Obama’s long-form birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health was found to be a “computer-generated forgery” by a team of criminal investigators in 2012

(Nov. 5, 2017) — Protesters lining South Beretania Street in Honolulu, HI, where Barack Hussein Obama reportedly was raised by his maternal grandparents in the 1970s, held up signs on Friday which read, “Welcome to Kenya” to greet President Donald Trump’s motorcade during his visit to Pearl Harbor and the USS Arizona Memorial.

According to The Hill, where the photos were published, the protesters were “trolling” Trump.

One woman held a sign which said:

No Trump
HI is Obamas Birthplace [sic]

The signs were an apparent hearkening back to Trump’s public questioning of Obama’s presidential eligibility and demand that he produce his “long-form,” or more detailed, birth certificate in 2011.

In June 2008, a party identified by Politifact’s Amy Hollyfield as Obama campaign staffer Tommy Vietor reportedly released a “short-form” birth certificate to members of the media and websites such as The Daily KOS, Politifact, Snopes.com and Factcheck.org, which posted it affirming it to be “Obama’s birth certificate.”

Snopes no longer displays the short-form birth certificate but asserts that the long-form image is authentic.

Contrary to some reports, Trump never claimed that Obama was born in Kenya, although news sources, Obama’s former literary agent, and political pundits have.

The media is well aware that Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution requires the president and commander-in-chief to be a “natural born Citizen,” although the precise meaning of the term has been debated extensively since Obama became a presidential candidate.

In the past, a number of other candidates prompted renewed discussion of the issue, to include George Romney, who was born in Mexico to U.S.-citizen parents; former Connecticut Gov. Lowell P. Weicker, who was born in Paris, France to U.S.-citizen parents; and Sen. John S. McCain, III, born in Panama to U.S.-citizen parents.

To most Americans, “natural born Citizen” means, at a minimum, “born in the United States.”  However, American history shows that the citizenship of a candidate’s parents, or at least the father, at the time of his birth was a factor in determining that status.

In 2015, Sen. Ted Cruz averred that he is a “natural born Citizen” eligible for the U.S. presidency as a result of his being born to a U.S.-citizen mother, although in Canada and to a Cuban-citizen father.  Just before he declared himself a presidential candidate, two former solicitors general published an editorial in the Harvard Law Review arguing in favor of Cruz’s eligibility based solely upon his mother’s presumed citizenship at the time of his birth.

Obama claims to have been born to a father who was a citizen first of Great Britain, and later Kenya, after it achieved its independence from the Crown in December 1963.  Obama’s life narrative states that his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a U.S. citizen 18 years of age when he was born at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961.

According to former detective Mike Zullo, who conducted a 5+-year investigation into the authenticity of the long-form birth certificate image published by the White House on April 27, 2011, a hospital official claimed that there is no record of Obama’s birth at Kapiolani, which is now part of the Hawaii Pacific Health system.

The investigation was launched in August 2011 by then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio and delegated to his “Cold Case Posse,” which Zullo headed at the time.  After six months of probing, Zullo announced at a press conference that probable cause existed to determine that the long-form birth certificate image is a “computer-generated forgery.”

Two subsequent pressers revealed additional details gleaned from the ongoing investigation, culminating in the declaration last December that two credentialed forensic analysts agreed with Zullo that the long-form image could not be genuine based on “nine points of forgery.”

Zullo had previously said that investigators found no evidence that Obama was ever present in the state of Hawaii prior to the age of five.

In an interview last Monday with Mike Volin of WOBC, Arpaio said that Trump had “some information,” presumably about Obama’s birth certificate since that was the topic of discussion, before the investigation commenced in August 2011.  As he did at a speaking engagement on September 29, Arpaio expressed incredulity that the mainstream media consistently refused to report and conduct its own research into Zullo’s findings for the edification of the American people.

A caller to the program, Arizona resident Jeff Lichter, recounted that during a face-to-face meeting with Trump at Trump Tower in New York City in early April 2011, Trump had predicted that a birth certificate “forgery” would be released by the White House in the near future.

During the investigation, Zullo traveled to Hawaii twice to obtain information from HDOH officials but was turned away by then-Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine, who refused Zullo access to HDOH Registrar Dr. Alvin Onaka.

In its coverage of Trump’s visit on Friday, The Hill reported, “The president’s arrival in Hawaii was met by disruptive protests against his immigration policies by Hawaiians beating drums and cheering former President Obama, who was born and spent part of his childhood in the state.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. To Tom Arnold who purveys false statements:

    “Why has “Obama” claimed two different birthplaces (at least)? Because he LIES! Almost everybody accepts and knows that!!”

    He hasn’t. My question was what was the motive between telling some publisher with an uncirculated blurb that he was born in Kenya and tell the high circulation new york times that he was born in Hawaii? The answer is he didn’t. It was a simple fact checking error by a junior copy editor.

    “Why did his grandmother in Kenya say she was present at his birth, if the birth took place in Hawaii? Hmm!”

    She didn’t. I showed you the full transcript. McRae was constantly interchanging “your son” with “your grandson” in an effort to confuse the translator. The question was if she was present when her son was born. She said she was present. When McRae asked for clarification about the birth of her grandson she said she was present in Kenya when Obama was born in Hawaii. She said he was born in Hawaii multiple times and has since given interviews stating the same: https://www.salon.com/2012/06/22/barack_obama_wasnt_born_in_kenya/

    “And, by the way, why did “Obama” (actual name Soetoro) fail E-VERIFY! Is he UNDOCUMENTED?”

    He didn’t. If you read the supposed error it said nothing about his name not matching or it not being assigned. The fact is the person who ran the E-verify used the Self check system meant for checking one’s own social. The program requires more than just a name, social and address and birthdate. There is a second screen which does a third party verification of identity. This third party verification asks things like if you have an auto loan, which bank processes the loan and what is the amount of the monthly payment. You know something only the person whose social it was would know. The person who used the self check failed the third party verification and thus got an error. Further at the time it was run the program wasn’t rolled out yet in all 50 states. Hawaii and Illinois wasn’t in the list at the time.

    “And, why did the Courts Martial Judge (Col Denise Lind) in the Terry Lakin case DENY Lakin and his attorneys’ request for DISCOVERY? ”

    Because Discovery wouldn’t have done anything. His orders had nothing to do with his belief in Obama being a citizen. His orders derived from his CO and not the President. Even if he got Obama’s birth certificate presented to him during discovery it wouldn’t have changed Lakin’s insubordination and he still would have been guilty as charged. Lakin even admitted in court his orders were valid and he was guilty of disobeying them.

    “And, why did “Obama” (then known by his legal name Barry Soetoro) proclaim as a teenager in Hawaii to a US serviceman that he, “Obama,” was going to be president of the United States some day? Later, when residing in Chicago with Tom and Mary Ayers (parents of “Obama’s” good friend domestic terrorist Bill Ayers), he again made the same proclamation! This time it was to the Ayers’ postman. ”

    You really believe the race bannon nonsense? There’s no proof Obama said that to a US Serviceman or that the postman even met Obama. He claimed “Obama” had an indonesian smile. Over the years the postman had adjusted his story and only late in the game did birthers think he was even trustworthy. The postman can’t support his claims no more than race bannon could.

    “I want to assure you that I am not a racist! No matter, anyway, the fact is that “Obama” is an Arab American (44% Arab and 50% White) instead of Black (only 6% ethnically)”

    And where did you pull those percentages from? The Luo tribe isn’t Arabic.

  2. Tom Arnold and Jerome Corsi are, of course, free to believe whatever they desire, but there is no evidence that Obama’s ring is enscribed with the first part of the Shahada.

  3. I now have attempted TWICE to send a comment to ThePostEmail (regarding “Obama’s” constitutional ineligibility and an UNSIGNED written response which I received on March 23, 2015, from the FBI Inspector General, which stated, “THIS OFFICE CONSIDERS THE MATTERS RAISED IN YOUR MOST RECENT LETTER AND IN PREVIOUS CORRESPONDENCES TO BE CLOSED, AND WE DO NOT INTEND TO EXCHANGE FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE WITH YOU REGARDING THIS MATTER. ACCORDINGLY, THIS OFFICE WILL TAKE NO FURTHER ACTION REGARDING YOUR CORRESPONDENCE AND CONSIDERS THE MATTER CLOSED.”
    Both times that I have attempted to post such comments, the comments have been rejected and/or deleted! I have no idea why.
    Forgive me for saying so, but this is BULLS__T!
    Tom Arnold.

  4. Three-Pound Sledge and Lawerence Sellin are, of course, free to believe whatever they want (including their beliefs about congressional intent and influence of “The Law of Nations”), but every judge who considered the issue has concluded birth in the United States is sufficient to confer natural-born citizenship.

    For those born in the United States (and Obama was, as Hawaii was in the United States at the time of his birth), no judge has ever said two citizens were necessary to confer natural-born citizenship.

    And here’s a thought: The United States isn’t naturally occurring; it exists only because United States government wrote laws deeming what and where it is.

  5. No U.S. Government law can make nor deem a person a natural born U.S. Citizen. A natural born U.S. Citizen is one by the natural act of being born on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen parents, one male, one female. That is why there are no U.S. Naturalization Laws with the phrase “natural born Citizen”, only “Citizen”.

  6. Enjoy:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2004-obama-e1337290974353.jpg

    Hawai’ian Long Form Birth Certificate will forever be a mind-numbing red herring propaganda rag for the Constitutionally illiterate. An Hawai’i birth only means that the jug-eared CIA puppet is but a statutory U.S. citizen if one was to believe that his sperm donor was Barack HUSSEIN Obama, Sr. – a citizen of Kenya.

    Knock yourselves out with the Hawai’ian nativity. It means diddly squat. You always need two U.S. citizen parents and born on U.S. soil to be a natural born Citizen. Kenya dig it?

    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/01/10/the-difference-between-a-u-s-citizen-and-a-natural-born-citizen/

    TF (Terribly Funny) Bozo and Mark Bellilaugh, chew on this:

    “United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790).”

    “Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States. And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.”

    “United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform rule of Naturalization; and to repeal the act heretofore passed on that subject” (January 29, 1795).”

    Interpreted: The Founding Fathers knew that to be a natural born Citizen, you could not be born off U.S. soil. So now, these individuals are only statutory citizens – via Naturalization Law

    Amended as follows:

    “SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, that the children of persons duly naturalized, dwelling within the United States, and being under the age of twenty-one years, at the time of such naturalization, and the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident of the United States: Provided also, That no person heretofore proscribed by any state, or who has been legally convicted of having joined the army of Great Britain during the late war, shall be admitted a citizen as foresaid, without the consent of the legislature of the state, in which such person was proscribed.”

  7. All of the public information supplied by Arpaio is available on the internet, no need to mail it to anyone. Just supply links.

    The issue of Obama’s birth is not as muddied as people pretend if one looks to official sources such as the Departmentbof Health in Hawaii.

    FWIW, here is Obama’s 1999 Illinois Senate biography (note – born in Hawaii)

    http://web.archive.org/web/19991109015159/http://www.legis.state.il.us/homepages/senate/obamab.html

  8. Jeffrey Harrison: you may recall that I noted sending information to one individual at a time was inefficient. I suggested publicly posting the information on the internet so it could reach the widest audience possible. Disseminate that link, and I’ll be happy to review it.

    Thank you in advance for that effort.

  9. Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe Larry Sinclair’s baseless accusations. But, to quote Gary Wilmott, saying something doesn’t make it true.

  10. t.f. bow thanks for coming on board and contributing remarks and insights. You are truly an asset. In fact, you have been a “Force Multiplier”. Because of your input, others come here to remark and reply to your statements and insights. Indeed, continue to be free to believe and say what you believe… But don’t go away, your assistance is appreciated.

    Oh! As a local Pennsylvanian volunteer for and of Sheriff Arpaio I am not nor in the loop of all
    the information and evidence Arpaio has. And don’t want to be. I do have much of what Arpaio has released to the general public.

    As you should recall I did offer to send you the information and evidence that Arpaio has released to the general public. However, your inaction of this offer reveals you maybe be
    less serious in obtaining it nor absorbing the truth. That offer still holds. How about getting
    me a address, and I’ll send you the noted materials.

    My phone number is: (814) 375 -2490 P.S. I’ll even send it Express/Overnight Delivery.

  11. I beg your indulgence.
    There is something else that I feel compelled to tell you about- especially today when there are so many accusations being brought against politicians, movie stars, and other prominent individuals, involving alleged acts, or crimes, of sexual harassment/sexual misconduct.
    SO, WHY IS IT THAT “BARACK OBAMA” IS NOT A SUBJECT OF THIS DISCUSSION? BILL CLINTON WAS (AND CONTINUES TO BE)..
    I am not saying that being “gay” (like he, “Obama”) is necessarily bad conduct or criminal, but that some behaviors by “gay” persons, especially those who are in positions of public trust (e.g. elected senators and/or presidents), should be critically examined and disavowed and/or prosecuted if true. National security concerns are even in play.
    To get to my point- see and consider the below arguably true facts.
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/claim-obama-hid-gay-life-to-become-president/
    https://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Larry-Sinclair-Cocaine/dp/0578013878
    Does this put things in proper perspective for you?
    Tom Arnold.

  12. Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe whatever he wants, but Obama has never claimed to have two different birthplaces; he has consistently said he was born in Hawaii (other than the times he was making very obvious jokes). Similarly, Obama’s grandmother said Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Presumably the Social Security Number ending in -4425 was retired shortly after it was published, and Obama was issued a different one. So -4425 later failing eVerify is unsurprising given that it likely is no longer a valid number.

    Terry Lakin was not denied discovery; rather the judge ruled that Obama’s eligibility was not relevant to the charges of disobeying orders. If Lakin disagreed with the judge’s ruling, Lakin could have appealed; instead, Lakin pleaded guilty and waived his appeal. The judge’s did use the word “embarrass,” but, in addition to its common usage, “embarrass” also has a specific legal meaning, and judge’s usage correctly applied that legal meaning to Lakin’s case.

    There is no evidence that Obama ever legally changed his last name to Soetoro.

    There is also no evidence about Obama’s childhood proclamations, just hearsay (which is a fancy legal word for gossip).

    There is also no evidence that Obama is 44% Arab.

    There is no evidence that Obama ever threatened Clinton; presumably she dropped out the 2008 primary because she realized that she could not win a majority of the delegates at the convention.

    As various judges have repeatedly ruled, Obama’s Hawaiian birth is sufficient to confer him natural-born citizenship. Which is why no one in the government or the media is picking up on this issue: there is nothing to pick up.

  13. To: Bob Ross and others.
    Why has “Obama” claimed two different birthplaces (at least)? Because he LIES! Almost everybody accepts and knows that!!
    Why did his grandmother in Kenya say she was present at his birth, if the birth took place in Hawaii? Hmm!
    And, by the way, why did “Obama” (actual name Soetoro) fail E-VERIFY! Is he UNDOCUMENTED?
    And, why did the Courts Martial Judge (Col Denise Lind) in the Terry Lakin case DENY Lakin and his attorneys’ request for DISCOVERY? She, the military kangaroo court judge, actually said that it was because Discovery of “commander-in-chief Obama’s” bona fides MIGHT BE “EMBARRASSING” TO HIM! I’ll say it would be!
    And, why did “Obama” (then known by his legal name Barry Soetoro) proclaim as a teenager in Hawaii to a US serviceman that he, “Obama,” was going to be president of the United States some day? Later, when residing in Chicago with Tom and Mary Ayers (parents of “Obama’s” good friend domestic terrorist Bill Ayers), he again made the same proclamation! This time it was to the Ayers’ postman. Can you say “MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!”
    Why did Hillary “What Difference Does It Make” Clinton drop out of the democrat primary for the 2008 presidential election, and later get rewarded by an appointment as “Obama’s” Secretary of State? Wasn’t it after threats against her and her family, and to keep her mouth shut?
    I want to assure you that I am not a racist! No matter, anyway, the fact is that “Obama” is an Arab American (44% Arab and 50% White) instead of Black (only 6% ethnically). I also do NOT hate “Obama.” I am not what some call a “hater.” I am a Christian. I just want to see REASON, LAW AND ORDER, AND OUR US CONSTITUTION honored and vindicated. The man, to put it succinctly, is a TREASONER.
    He is not a NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN (if a citizen of any recognized legal description at all).
    More to come if you like. Tom Arnold.

  14. To: T.F. BOW, et al.
    Speaking of “historical facts,” I’ve got one last opinion, which I firmly believe is true, for you and anybody else who gives a damn.
    OUR COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HAS BEEN LIVING A LIE FOR THE PAST DECADE (2007-2017). HOW DO YOU LIKE LIVING A LIE? HOW DO YOU LIKE PERPETRATING IT?
    Time is way overdue for somebody, anybody, who is brave enough, patriotic enough, and hopefully influential and righteous enough, to correct the historical record! You know what I’m talking about. So do Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Michael Savage, FAUX News, the FBI, Secret Service, US Supreme Court (“we’re evading the issue!”), Congress, and thousands if not millions of others who, thus far, have chosen to be silent. Can you say “MISPRISION?”

  15. Tom Arnold the writer of the uncirculated blurb was Miriam Goderich a junior copy editor at the time. First time writers rarely write their own blurb. But why would Obama tell some publicist who he ended up not hiring for his first book that he was born in Kenya but then told a high circulation paper like the NY Times in 1990 that he was born in Hawaii? That makes little sense.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

  16. Tom Arnold asks an excellent question: Given that the pamphlet’s author admits that the 1991 mistake was hers alone, and it was not discovered until Obama was president, when will blind political allegiance stop recasting innocuous historical facts as some sort .of sinister conspiracy?

  17. Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but the writer of the pamphlet, which was written in 1991 but not widely disseminated until after Obama was president, admitted that it was her mistake — and not an intentional deception.

  18. “Obama just ignored the discovery and the court allowed him to get away with it”

    That’s not what the court said.

    “Plaintiff seeks the following relief from the Court:

    1. An order compelling Defendants to turn over: (a) a certified copy of Obama’s vault (original long version) birth certificate; (b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates of Obama in the names referred to in the caption of this lawsuit; (c) a certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship; (d) a certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of majority; (e) certified copies of Obama’s admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School; and (f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing Obama’s name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama;”

    Obama filed a motion to dismiss.

    The judge citing Holland v McCain ruled Berg did not have standing.

    The case never got to the discover phase.

    https://www.leagle.com/decision/20081083574awfsupp2d50911035

    The appeals court affirmed the district court ruling.

    http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-3rd-circuit/1498770.html

  19. Now, “T.F.BOW” and everyone else-
    Let’s settle the question which liberals and “Obama” worshipers like to throw in our faces all of the time, i.e. “WHO WAS THE ‘ORIGINAL BIRTHER’?”
    You like to tell us that it was Donald Trump, or Sheriff Joe, or Hillary and Bill Clinton! Actually, in some ways, the latter of those choices (The Clintons) is pretty damn close to being correct!
    BUT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CAN STAND THE ABSOLUTE REAL TRUTH REGARDING THE IDENTITY OF THE “ORIGINAL BIRTHER,” HERE IS THE ANSWER! GUESS WHO!
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp
    That’s right. It’s the presumed writer of this BIO published in 1991, which remained intact and undisputed, and APPARENTLY NOT EVEN PROOFREAD BY THE WRITER HIMSELF, until sixteen or so years later in 2007. That, as some of us know, is when the “ORIGINAL BIRTHER” SO-CALLED “BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA” HIMSELF AND HIS HANDLERS DECIDED THAT THE TIME WAS RIGHT FOR A TAKEOVER (by election fraud and other treasonable RICO crimes) OF THE US PRESIDENCY!
    Everyone, especially “T.F.BOW,” got it now!

  20. Gary Wilmott is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but, in federal court, discovery is permitted only after the court’s jurisdiction is determined. The court ruled it lacked jurisdiction because Berg lacked standing; Berg’s suit was dismissed, meaning Berg wasn’t entitled to discovery.

    And Wilmott is, of course, free to specify which statements, if any, are misrepresentations.

  21. @T(otal)F(raud) BOW:
    You appear unable to comprehend that a Judge who denies a Defendant’s “Motion to Quash” a Plaintiff’s subpoena is in fact DEMANDING that the Defendant comply with the Plaintiff’s subpoena. And the fact that Judge Malihi was prepared to issue a “Default Judgement” in favor of the Plaintiff’s proves that the Defendant’s reason for not complying with said subpoena was hogwash.

  22. To Total False Bow…hard to win a lawsuit (Berg in 2008) when the defendant Obama simply IGNORED Berg’s Request For Admissions. Obama just ignored the discovery and the court allowed him to get away with it. Failure to ADMIT OR DENY in federal and most state courts are deemed admitted. Oh but the court would have none of that. That would have put aka Obama in a real pickle. A pickle that would have exposed him to massive perjury and would have unraveled his candidacy. Personally I don’t know why Sharon continually allows your misrepresentations and lies to continue on this site. You and your cohorts are nothing more than leftist provocateurs with an anti-American agenda.

  23. Perhaps Jeffrey Harrison can help everyone out and name a lawsuit that Phil Berg won (before resigning from the bar following his license being suspended).

  24. Tom Arnold,

    Thanks so much for posting the web site:
    http://www.obamacrimes.com/p/the-proof.html

    I encourage everyone to check out this site. Philip Berg was one of the first to sound the alarm
    that Obama is a fraud. To top is off, he is a live long Democrat.

    In Berg’s site I printed the following articles:
    http://www.obamacrimes.com/p/latest-press-release.html
    http://www.obamacrimes.com/p/10.html (10 Facts)
    http://www.obamacrimes.com/p/obamas-birth-history.html (Obama’s Birth History)

    Also at Berg’s site he is selling his book entitled: OBAMA SCARE. I did buy this when it
    came out. Hopefully others out there will consider buying it. I read it and sent it to my
    Congressman GT Thomson.

    While our Congressmen and Senators are lame, I encourage all others to keep contacting
    them to let them know we still are ticked at them for not taking corrective action against
    USURPER obama.

  25. What is fascinating is how some will readily accept as valid a Kenya birth certificate obtained under suspicious circumstances by a convicted forger and never authenticated by any government agency in Kenya but these same people reject an officially authenticated Hawaiian birth certificate.

    Why accept a foreign government pronouncement while ignoring the resolutions of the Congress of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

    U.S. House of Representatives, Resolution 593 – Recognizing and celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.

    “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;”

    Passed 378 – 07/27/2009

    U.S. Senate, Resolution 225 – A resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of the entry of Hawaii into the Union as the 50th State.

    “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;”

    Passed by unanimous consent 7/28/2009.

  26. Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe whatever he wants, but (1) a fake birth certificate peddled by a convicted forger; (2) a since corrected newspaper article; and (3) a “transcript” that Obama’s grandmother has disavowed (and is yet more hearsay) is not evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.

  27. “which Judge Malihi refused to accept as evidence.”

    Not true, he used the document provided by the plaintiffs to rule Obama was a natural born citizen based solely on his birth in Hawaii.

    “By deciding this matter on the merits, the Court in no way condones the conduct
    or legal scholarship of Defendant’s attorney, Mr. Jablonski. This Decision is entirely based on the law, as well as the evidence and legal arguments presented at the hearing.”

    “For the purpose of this section’s analysis, the following facts are considered: 1)
    Mr. Obama was born in the United States; 2) Mr. Obama’s mother was a citizen of the United States at the time of his birth; and 3) Mr. Obama’s father was never a United States citizen. Plaintiffs contend that, because his father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth, Mr. Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the Office of the President of the United States. The Court does not agree.”

    “For the purposes of this analysis, this Court considered that President Barack
    Obama was born in the United States. Therefore, as discussed in Arkeny, he became a citizen at birth and is a natural born citizen.”

    You are free to draw whatever inference you want from Obama’s refusal to attend the hearing but the Court drew no such inference.

  28. Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but there is no evidence that Obama ever wore a ring inscribed with “THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH.” Just as there is no evidence that Obama is “44% Arab.” To again quote Gary Wilmott: “Just saying something doesn’t make it so.”

    And Robert Laity is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but the U.S. Supreme Court in dicta stated that Minor was a natural-born citizen because she was born in the United States to two citizen parents; notably, it did not say that two citizen parents are required for natural-born citizenship. This is the difference between necessary and sufficient conditions, and why every judge who has considered the issue has ruled that birth in the United States is sufficient to confer natural-born citizenship.

    James Carter appears to be confused about the role a judge; in the United States, judges do not “demand” that anyone provide any evidence; they rule based on the evidence that is presented. In Georgia, one of the plaintiffs entered into evidence of a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, Judge Malihi accepted it, and the judge ultimately ruled Obama’s Hawaiian birth conferred natural-born citizenship. The plaintiffs did subpoena Obama to testify; Obama did not appear (because his attorneys concluded there was no jurisdiction for the subpoena, and the presidency is a demanding job); and, despite his absence, Judge Malihi ruled in favor of Obama’s eligibility. In addition, Obama’s birth certificate (and Hawaii’s verification of it) was also introduced into evidence in a federal court in Mississippi, and Obama also prevailed in that suit.

    Three-Pound Sledge is, of course, free to believe anything, but the BNA’s records only verify the unremarkable proposition that Obama’s father was a Kenyan student. “Someone” searching the archives, making claims about children, but not providing the actual results of their efforts is just hearsay (which is a fancy legal word for gossip). This claim might be meaningful if this unspecified person provided their actual results; unlike Obama’s birth certificate, Eowyn saying “someone” said something about records will never see the inside of a courtroom.

  29. Here’s a little musical delight for T.F. Bow to keep his insomnia alive and well, as-well-as We The People patriots’ never ending quest to eventually unmask the fraud aka Obama, the person with no proven (verified) documentation of his origins:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwNN-0AgWc

    If that is not enough T. F. (Tainted Findings) Bow, try this:
    https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/08/24/british-national-archives-show-a-son-was-born-to-obama-sr-in-1961-in-kenya/

    The data found in the above weblink is as accurate as any other theory, including that suggested by T.F. (Total Fraud) Bow.

  30. @Mark Bellison:

    “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” — Barack Hussein Obama, 2011

    In Georgia, Obama ignored Judge Malihi’s subpoena to appear before him with actual evidence of his birth in Hawaii.

    What any of the plaintiffs did/did not do in no way, shape or form obfuscates the above fact or the suspicious inference thereof.

  31. @T(otal) F(raud) BOW

    Happy to point out your failure to oblige me by naming a case/judge other than Malihi who demanded that Obama provide them with actual evidence of his birth in Hawaii. You know as well as I do that Obama did not provide his birth certificate, a certified copy thereof, or any other actual evidence of his birth in Hawaii to Judge Malihi but, rather, that birthers provided Judge Malihi a printed copy of the PDF the White House claimed was a scan of a certified copy of Obama’s birth certificate which the birthers claimed was a forgery and, therefore, which Judge Malihi refused to accept as evidence.

    As for your deflection — if/when you get stopped for speeding on an Interstate tell the officer “Everyone else was speeding” and see what that gets you.

  32. A “Natural Born Citizen” is one born in the United States to parents who are both U.S. Citizens themselves- Minor v Happersett, USSCt. (1875). Period.

  33. Mr. Arnold,

    Where can we read these expert reports?

    Virtually all of the Social Security numbers in the public databases associated occur after Obama address to the Democratic Convention in 2004. The Harrison Bounel name first appeared in any database in 2009.

    In 2008, the Selective Service verified Obama registered for the Selective Service in 1980.

  34. In Georgia, two of the plaintiffs attorneys stipulated that Obama was born in Hawaii and the third introduced his Hawaiian birth certificate but produced no evidence that it was a forgery.

  35. To T.F. BOW:
    How on God’s earth do you justify/explain the gold ring worn by “Obama” on his left-hand wedding finger with the Islamic inscription on it, “THERE IS NO GOD EXCEPT ALLAH.”
    He might as well have been saying throughout his presidency and to our country’s troops, which he supposedly commanded, “IN YOUR FACE, AMERICA!”
    And, too, how do you explain http://iraqi-refugees.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/11/who-is-this-man-that-is-called-the-president-of-the-united-states-3244440.html
    I know you can’t, and won’t, explain it. But, Sir, I can, and will.
    Soetoro aka “Obama” was/is a TERRORIST-SYMPATHIZING (THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN TO NAME JUST TWO), ARAB-AMERICAN (50% Caucasian, 44% Arab, but only 6% Black), CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE (Article 2, Section 1), MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, USURPER of the U.S. Presidency and command (by a “community organizer!”) of our country’s armed forces.
    Bring it on, T.F. BOW! I can, and I will continue, to prove you wrong!
    AMEN, Tom Arnold.

  36. Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but no actual expert had opined that Obama’s birth certificate was forged, self-anointed “experts” and unsubstantiated claims at press conferences notwithstanding.

    And there is no evidence of Obama’s using any Social Security Number other than the one ending in -4425. Just as there is no evidence of Obama ever using a Social Security Number assigned to Bounel.

    And there is no evidence that Obama’s Selective Service registration was forged; the Selective Service System has expressly said Obama duly registered.

    And there is no evidence that any official in the Democratic Party thinks Obama was ineligible.

    And Three-Pound Sledge is, of course, free to believe anything, but there is no evidence that Obama ever worked for the CIA.

    Jeffrey Harrison’s advice about false statements is particularly apt.

  37. Passenger manifests for Kenya missing? No you were just looking in the wrong place. There were no direct flights from Hawaii back then to Kenya and the manifests would have the port of entry. New York should have been where you looked as any flight would have came through there first. There’s also your problem that the whole kenya birth scenario never made any sense. Obama’s father never left the US from 1959 to 1964 according to his INS records. Obama Sr was still married in Kenya. His father didn’t speak English and Obama’s mother didn’t speak Swahili. No reason for her to go there all by herself.

  38. To: T.F. BOW and others of the same ilk-
    “Birth Certificates,” you say! The “gold standard,” you say! Then, how about all of this-
    1) “Obama’s” alleged Hawaiian “birth certificate” has been proved by numerous forensic document experts around the world, including some in Law Enforcement, to be an amateurish, pieced-together, photo-shopped FORGERY!
    2) Speaking of bona fides, “Obama” has used literally DOZENS of SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS throughout his lifetime thus far, including one BELONGING TO A DEAD MAN (Harrison J Bounel) which he, “Obama,” used AS PRESIDENT in 2010 to file his federal income taxes with the IRS for the year 2009!
    3) “Obama,” and/or an agent of his (Chicago Draft Board?), backdated and forged his SELECTIVE SERVICE REGISTRATION FORM (draft card) to make it look like he was in compliance with the then-existing military draft regulations! Actually, at the time, and quite possibly still to this day, he was an INDONESIAN CITIZEN!
    ALL OF THE ABOVE AND MORE WAS CARRIED OUT BY “OBAMA” AND HIS HANDLERS TO FABRICATE AN IDENTITY FOR HIM AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR POLITICAL OFFICE/THE U.S. PRESIDENCY!
    I remind everybody, T.F. Bow, of course, included, of what I consider to be BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT PROOF THAT “OBAMA” USURPED (i.e. STOLE) THE U.S. PRESIDENCY AND COMMAND OF ITS ARMED FORCES AND THAT, AS SUCH, IF EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS, AS THEY SAY, “EQUAL UNDER THE LAW,” HE SHOULD BE GUILTY OF TREASON-
    https://h2ooflife.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/the-dnc-conspiracy-to-certify-an-ineligible-Obama
    AMEN. Tom Arnold. Always and forever will be a proud and righteous “birther,” until, and if ever, Barry Soetoro aka “Barack Hussein Obama” can prove otherwise.

  39. From James Carter’s entry:

    “Obama did not want evidence of his birth in Hawaii offered into evidence in a legal proceeding.”

    It has been my suspicion (not proven, of course) that the above statement is true because HUSSEIN Obama’s sponsor, the CIA (Covert Institution of Assassination), guided and directed him on that effort. Obama could not have done what he did (usurp the highest office of the land) without the covert and illegal assistance by a powerful Constitution-killing entity such as the CIA.

    Parting thought: T.F. (Ton o’ Fiction) Bow can think what he or she wants, if he or she would just think.

  40. Happy to oblige you, James Carter: Birth certificates are the gold standard for competent evidence of a person’s place of birth; they are accepted by any government agency in the United States. Obama’s birth certificate, in fact, was entered into evidence in various court cases — including the ballot challenge heard by Judge Malihi. (Which is more than can be said about the current president, who also has not authorized the release of his birth certificate.)

    Jeffrey Harrison is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but he still cannot specify what evidence is being ignored, or any false statements.

  41. t. f. b o w, come judgement day, I hope I’m a good distance from you. I am a sinner
    and repent daily and moment by moment. The Holy Scriptures state judgement for false
    statements, sins, and mean acts.

    This applies in word, deed, and thought…

    A persons actions, lack of actions, and their fruits reveal where their heart is.

    To me, all your remarks are negative and you deny endless evidence. Consider putting the
    brakes on and consider Christ in your life.

  42. “The gold standard is actual evidence — and not speculation, rumors, and unsupported claims.”

    Absolutely. And the gold standard of actual evidence in this matter are Obama’s original vital records — about which there has been nothing but speculation, rumors, and unsupported claims from both sides because Obama has never authorized their release to the general public.

    Someone please correct me if I’m wrong about this but my recollection is that only one judge has ever demanded that Obama provide them actual evidence of his birth in Hawaii, Administrative Law Judge Michael Malihi of Georgia, a subpoena Obama asked the judge to quash to no avail so Obama ignored it. That is also actual evidence — evidence that, for whatever reason, Obama did not want evidence of his birth in Hawaii offered into evidence in a legal proceeding.

  43. The gold standard is actual evidence — and not speculation, rumors, and unsupported claims. If Jeffrey Harrison can cite evidence that support his beliefs, he is, of course, free to do so.

    And if Jeffrey Harrison believes something isn’t so, he is also, of course, free to be specific.

  44. Saying something doesn’t make it true:

    Obama’s publicist admitted that she wrote Obama’s biography in the 1991 pamphlet, and that it was her mistake alone.

    It was reported that some airline manifests from 1961 were missing from the national archives, but there is no evidence, however, that Obama (or his mother) flew during that time. And there is evidence, i.e., the birth certificate, that did not because they were in Hawaii.

    There is no evidence that the British National Archives contains information about Obama, Jr.

    Tim Adams’ affidavit relies on hearsay (which is a fancy legal word for gossip) from some unidentified co-worker.

    There is no evidence that Obama, when debating Keyes, made the “not running for president” comment.

    The Kenyan parliament did not “proclaim and decree” that Obama was there.

    S.R. 511 did receive bipartisan support, but it is just speculation as to guess why.

    And accusing commenters of being paid is just silly.

  45. T.F. Bow…aka fogbow…are you still being paid by Barry to run interference? you have certainly been around for a long time attempting to debunk everything anti-Obama, made a good living out of it have you?

  46. To: T.F. BOW.
    If Soetoro aka “Obama” wasn’t born in KENYA, then WHY-
    1) Did the bio published in 1991 say he was? The bio remained intact and unchanged for sixteen years until 2007. DID SOETORO AKA “OBAMA” FORGET TO PROOFREAD HIS OWN BIO (which he himself undoubtedly had written in the first place)!
    2) Were airline passenger manifests to and from Kenya MISSING for dates immediately preceding and following Soetoro aka “Obama’s” alleged birth date (some time in August 1961 wasn’t it)?
    3) Does the British National Archives have a record of a male child (name redacted) BORN IN KENYA to Barack Obama Sr on that date?
    4) Did Hawaiian head elections clerk Timothy Adams swear in an affidavit that THERE WAS NO RECORD ANYWHERE IN HAWAII OF THE BIRTH OF 2007-08 DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE “OBAMA?”
    5) Did “Obama,” during a race earlier for the Illinois state senate, say to one of his opponents (Alan Keyes) who was questioning his birth, “Well, at least I’m not running for president!’
    6) Has the Kenyan parliament proclaimed and decreed that “Obama’ was born there?
    7) Was Senate Resolution 511 (addressing, and for all intents and purposes EXCUSING, then Republican candidate John McCain’s controversial birth in Panama) sponsored by Democrats during the 2007-08 presidential campaign? Can you say quid pro quo?
    HOW MANY MORE “COINCIDENCES” (OR, SHOULD I SAY “UNCOMFORTABLE FACTS”) DO YOU WANT? BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MANY MORE.
    SO, WHERE DOES BLIND POLITICAL ALLEGIANCE END, AND REASON BEGIN?

  47. “NO but proving it is a forgery, which has been done, does make it so! ”

    Proven by who exactly? The same guys who said they had the proof against Judge Donahoe, Supervisor Wilcox, Supervisor Stanley, Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin?

    In every one of those cases Sheriff Arpaio held press conferences to announce that he had the proof. And in every one of those cases he didn’t.

    Maricopa County taxpayers paid millions of dollars to settle those false arrest charges.

    Holding a press conference and claiming you have proof is meaningless.

    Remember Michael Nifong said he had proof against the Duke lacrosse team.

  48. “Notable” refers to someone newsworthy because, with all respect that is due, the beliefs of a few internet commenters will not have an effect on Congress or the news media.

    It is not a single judge who ruled that birth in the United States is sufficient to confer natural-born citizenship. Rather, it was several judges, from a variety of jurisdictions in differing courts in the judiciary. What is remarkable is that, despite their differences, they all came to the same conclusion.

    Saying “the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that two-citizen parents are required” doesn’t make it true. For if it was true, it would be no problem to cite the cases in which that happened.

    Similarly, saying “Obama’s birth certificate was forged” doesn’t make that true, either. The opinions of a few self-annointed “experts,” or unsubstantiated claims made at press conferences, is not persuasive evidence (except, perhaps, in the eyes of a few internet commenters).

  49. Tom Arnold’s “evidence” of Obama’s foreign birth consists of: an erroneous promotional pamphlet (that his literary agent took reresponsibility for); a comment by an unknown author on a message board; a blog posting (that erroneously asserts that Obama’s father’s race is listed as “Afro-American”); a blog post making unsupported assertions about Hawaiian law; and the “conviction” from a citizen’s grand jury (that has no legal effect).

    Tom Arnold is, of course, free to believe whatever he desires, but none of that is evidence of a Kenyan birth. To quote Gary Wilmott: “Just saying something doesn’t make it so.”

  50. @t.f.bow – Again your ignorance is overwhelming. So you believe that just because one judge says something means he’s/she’s right? Considering that the SUPREME COURT has verified in their past decisions that a “Natural Born Citizen” is born in the US to BOTH citizen parents! Do you ever read anything other than leftist poop-aganda.
    “saying “Obama’s birth certificate was forged” doesn’t make it so”, NO but proving it is a forgery, which has been done, does make it so! But you leftist asshats NEVER acknowledge facts over your ignorance..

  51. Anyone “NOTABLE”? And exactly what does that mean? You’re one of those idiots that think the only people that know anything are those with some kind of title? No wonder your comments are so ignorant!

  52. Gary Wilmott is absolutely correct that “just saying something doesn’t make it so”: Saying “two citizen parents is required” doesn’t make it so; saying “Obama’s birth certificate was forged” doesn’t make it so.

    On the other hand, a modest amount of research will reveal the judges’ rulings that concluded that birth in the United States is sufficient to confer natural-born citizenship. Modest research will also disclose Hawaii’s expressly and repeatedly verifying that Obama was born there.

  53. Hey, “T. F. BOW.” I’m certainly not anyone “notable.” Just a REAL natural born and patriotic American citizen. Happens, too, that I am a military veteran, a retired Law Enforcement and Criminal Court Officer (32 years), an INDEPENDENT-registered voter, with nineteen years of formal education obviously including a BA Degree as well as a postgraduate LEEP Certificate (Law Enforcement Education Program), NOT a racist, etc. AND, I CAN PROVE THAT BARRY SOETORO AKA BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA was/is a foreign-born, communist and shariah-mentored, mostly Arab-American (44% ethnicity compared to only 6% Black), terrorist-sympathizing (The Muslim Brotherhood and the country of Iran to name just two), constitutionally ineligible USURPER of the presidency of the United States and command of our country’s armed forces. In other words, and let me make it perfectly clear to you and whoever else, if anyone, might be reading this, SOETORO AKA OBAMA STOLE THE U.S. PRESIDENCY, AND, IN MY MIND, THAT MAKES HIM GUILTY OF TREASON. Access the below websites if you give a damn about what I like to call “THE SICK TREASONOUS TRUTH.”
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp
    http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=80164
    http://iraqi-refugees.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/11/who-is-this-man-that-is-called-the-president-of-the-united-states-3244440.html
    https://h2ooflife.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/the-dnc-conspiracy-to-certify-an-ineligible-Obama
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/obama-convicted-by-citizens-court-for-fraud-224426421.html
    HAD ENOUGH YET, “T.F. BOW?” I’ve got a ton more of proof if you are really interested!
    Tom Arnold.

  54. Information Is Free

    Advice Is Costly

    Evidence Is Priceless

    And The Light of Truth Will Be Revealed

    Truth Is Like Air Bubbles In Water, It Will Come To The Surface

    (Obummer’s Own Words And Actions Will Cause His Own Demise)

  55. Three-Pound Sledge and Cort Wrotnowski are, of course, free to believe whatever they desire, but the State of Hawaii has repeatedly and expressly said that Obama was born there. The State of Hawaii verified the information on Obama’s birth certificate (including his parents) to two Secretaries of State, who both accepted that information.

    Similarly, every judge who has considered the issue has ruled that birth in the United States is sufficient to confer citizenship.

  56. I believe he was born in Indonesia. A professor of physical anthropology commented that his facial structure is essentially Polynesian. Following this thought, “Obama” would have been born somewhere in the eastern portion of Indonesia. It’s a huge, culturally and genetically diverse, country. The coloring of his lips is also characteristic of Indonesians. He has a number of look alikes who are from Indonesia.

    I’ll let you connect the dots.

    Another quirky possibility is that he is genetically half “African” and half Indonesian. That’s right. His “parents” are not his parents at all. You heard it here first.

  57. No one truly knows where aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Soebarkah, aka Barack HUSSEIN Obama was born. He is an undocumented alien. TF (Totally False) Bow can believe what he or she desires on the above’s nativity location. All background documentation on this 44th POTUS puppet has not been properly verified because it has been tainted by forged documentation.

    If one was to believe the propaganda found on the Hawai’ian Long Form Birth Certificate (LFBC) dished out to gullible non-thinking people, then his parentage does not pass natural born Citizenship muster as known by the Founding Fathers. The LFBC is nothing more than a red herring to keep TF Bow and others like him or her dumbed-down to the need to do a real background check on the 44fraud.

    The Law of Nations, was written by Emmerich de Vattel, a Swiss-German philosopher of law and used by our Founding Fathers as guidelines to establish the U.S. Constitution. In that book, the following definition of a “natural born citizen” appears, in Book I, Chapter 19, § 212, of the English translation of 1797 (p. 110):

    § 212. Citizens and natives.

    The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. . . .

    Any person not born on US soil to US citizen parents will only be a ‘plain-vanilla’ US citizen by US statute.

    If the Founding Fathers did not care to differentiate between a ‘natural born citizen’ and a ‘citizen’, they never would have cited the two different qualification requirements between the Legislative Branch (Article I), i.e. a “Citizen” and the Executive Branch (Article II), i.e. a natural born Citizen. The Founding Fathers would never have adhered to the English version of Natural Born Subject when developing the US Constitution. Why stick to crazy rules that many died trying to free themselves of?

  58. Does anyone notable presently believe Obama was born in Kenya? (Reliance on since withdrawn or otherwise since corrected statements is neither persuasive nor accurate.)