“AND THERE’S MORE”
by Sharon Rondeau
(Jul. 9, 2017) — As The Post & Email reported on Saturday, Obama birth certificate investigator Mike Zullo was Carl Gallups’s second guest on “Freedom Friday” on July 7 speaking about the recently-concluded trial of former Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio, the “deep state,” the birth certificate investigation, and new information to be released in the coming weeks.
Although not present in the courtroom, Zullo summarized some of the issues raised in the Arpaio trial, which concluded on Thursday.
Last fall, just before early voting was to commence for the November 8 election in which Arpaio sought a seventh term as sheriff, the U.S. Justice Department announced that it would prosecute him on a charge of criminal contempt stemming from a long-running civil rights lawsuit.
The previous May, Arpaio was found to be in civil contempt of court for disobeying an order by U.S. District Court Judge G. Murray Snow, which Zullo explained in the opening minutes of the show.
Last August, Snow referred the matter for criminal prosecution to the Arizona U.S. attorney. Citing a conflict of interest, the U.S. attorney’s office referred it to Justice.
Gallups explained to the audience that Arpaio is of the belief that he was retaliated against by the Obama government for launching an investigation into the long-form birth certificate image posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 bearing Obama’s name and later found to be fraudulent.
At 8:06, Gallups theorized that there is a “connection” between “the ludicrous connections between fake news and the deep state…it’s the kind of stuff you and I were talking about years ago and being called conspiracy theorists and nut jobs for. Now it’s in the headline news every day.”
Gallups and Zullo agreed that Justice’s prosecution of Arpaio likely heavily impacted his election loss to Democrat Paul Penzone, who prior to the announcement had been polling behind the six-term sheriff. Following Justice’s publicized decision to prosecute, Penzone’s campaign received a significant infusion of money cited by Zullo as $3 million by an organization supported by George Soros, which Zullo suggested solidified Penzone’s victory.
The former and current Maricopa County sheriffs are diametrically opposed in their view of illegal aliens in the county, with Arpaio known for his strict enforcement of federal and local laws and Penzone terming illegals “guests” who were not to be turned over to ICE agents on “detainers,” a stance he later softened.
In the second and third segments of Zullo’s appearance, he and Gallups reviewed the outcome of Zullo’s five-year investigation, initially launched by the Maricopa County Cold Case Posse under Arpaio’s authority and Zullo’s leadership, which found early on that the image posted on the White House website purported to represent Barack Hussein Obama’s long-form, paper birth record from the state of Hawaii was fabricated on a computer.
As if in chorus, mainstream media outlets scoffed at the findings announced at an initial press conference on March 1, 2012 while continuing to affirm that the the image represented a real, paper document.
According to Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a “natural born Citizen.” Most Americans understand the term to mean, at a minimum, “born in the U.S.” However, some scholars and constitutional attorneys interpret it to require that a candidate’s parents, also, must have been U.S. citizens when he or she was born.
The U.S. Supreme Court has not issued a recent opinion on the meaning of “natural born Citizen,” although past cases in which the term was invoked tangentially suggest that the court acknowledged it to be a higher standard of citizenship than simply a birth on U.S. soil, or what some term “native-born.”
A myriad of sources have stated unequivocally that Obama was born in a foreign country, which, if true, could signify that he did not meet the Article II requirement in question to serve. Obama claims a birth in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961 to a U.S.-citizen mother and British-citizen father at the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital.
The other two requirements for president are that the candidate must be 35 years of age or older and have resided in the U.S. for “fourteen years.”
Zullo revealed for the first time during the interview that corroboration from a second source indicated that no hospital in Hawaii has been able to confirm Obama’s birth there. He reiterated that an initial source in a position to know but who wished to remain anonymous had assured him that Obama’s birth did not take place at Kapiolani.
At the 32:00 mark, Zullo turned the conversation to the “deep state,” likening it to being part of a government “sandwich” consisting of three layers. His analogy included the president’s appointed and confirmed cabinet member over a specific department, long-term “bureaucrats” who survive changes in administrations, and the “new hires.”
Contrary to media reports, Zullo said that his findings of forgery of the long-form birth certificate image have not been “debunked” by anyone. In his explanation, Zullo compared the false media narrative to the one apparently begun by Hillary Clinton contending that “17 intelligence agencies” discovered that there was Russian interference in the election as well as coordination with the Trump campaign to assure Trump’s victory in November.
In the last segment beginning at 36:50, Gallups took up the “17 intelligence agencies” “fake news” narrative. Recent corrections issued by The New York Times and Associated Press now indicate that the actual number of intelligence agencies agreeing that there was Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election is actually three. Gallups noted that those are the NSA, CIA and FBI.
“You have an asset involved in all this, too, so tie it all together,” Gallups prompted Zullo.
Zullo responded that former CIA/NSA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who had performed work as a confidential informant to Arpaio between 2014 and 2015, had invented “hacking” software during his decade of government work which was utilized by both the NSA and CIA.
He recounted that Montgomery described having been instructed to download Florida voter information and then “upload information back in to the Florida voter roll computers” in a reportedly unprecedented occurrence.
There was a report, shortly after the November 8 elections, that the state of Georgia detected a breach of its election-system firewall which appeared to have been conducted by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), an item Zullo raised in relation to Montgomery’s government-contract work. “This is something Montgomery had shared with us,” he said of the identity of cyber-intruders. “The IP address may not in fact be the actual IP address that is always used in those breaches. So it could be another agency actually just posing as an IP address from Department of Homeland Security, because to our knowledge, Homeland Security doesn’t breach computers. The CIA/NSA do that kind of work…”
The states of Indiana and Idaho also detected what appeared to be DHS breaches of their voter-system firewalls.
At 40:36, Zullo said that government “three-letter agencies” are not necessarily the “bellwether for morality and truth” as portrayed in the news. “According to Montgomery and information that he has provided and things that are coming out in the news, that is far from the truth,” Zullo continued. “So we don’t know what this Russian hacking is about, but the other thing Montgomery did alert us to is…they have the ability to make it look like a foreign entity did the breaching when it was actually done within the borders of the United States.”
President Vladimir Putin of Russia has consistently denied that his government carried out any interference in the U.S. election, reportedly repeating that assertion to President Donald Trump during the recently-concluded G-20 summit in Germany.
As the segment was ending, Gallups said that the “universe-shattering” information Zullo said he had in 2013 “is a part of it…you were called a liar, a fraud, a fake, a conspiracy theorist, but now it’s headline news, what you knew years ago,” a statement with which Zullo agreed.
“And there’s more,” Zullo added, to which Gallups said that Zullo would disclose more information on his next appearance on the show.