ASSOCIATED PRESS STORY GOES VIRAL!
by Sharon Rondeau
(Aug. 7, 2010) — The Post & Email was contacted several days ago by reporter Mark Niesse of the Associated Press about “Barack Obama’s birth certificate” as indicated in his story published today.
Because we wish to report the news rather than be a part of the news, we declined a formal interview with Mr. Niesse. However, he accurately reported our response to him, which stated, “No one here is requesting Obama’s birth certificate, since it is obvious that he doesn’t possess a valid one.”
His initial email is as follows:
I am a reporter for The Associated Press in Honolulu writing because I want to contact Sharon Rondeau for an article about Barack Obama’s birth certificate. The article is about a new state law allowing the Department of Health to ignore repeated requests for Obama’s birth certificate.
Please call me at 808-536-5510, or e-mail me at mniesse@ap.org.
Thank you. –Mark Niesse, AP-Honolulu
And our response was:
Hello, Mr. Niesse, as the editor of the paper, I do not give interviews. I am aware of the “Vexatious Requester” law, and no one here is requesting Obama’s birth certificate, since it is obvious that he doesn’t possess a valid one. Thank you for your interest in The Post & Email, Inc.
Sharon Rondeau
Editor
The Post & Email, Inc.
www.thepostemail.com
Mr. Niesse then asked if we could identify others who have requested information on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health, but we declined, as The Post & Email does not divulge personal information to third parties, nor do we identify groups or organizations who may or may not be investigating the facts behind Obama’s birth.
The AP story was picked up by many websites earlier today, including here, here, and here. The New York Daily News, an obvious supporter of Obama, wrote its own erroneous story here (h/t, source).
Other purveyors of the apparent misinformation campaign on the part of the Hawaii Department of Health and Associated Press are here, here, and here. More media “followers” as opposed to investigative leaders are here, here, here and here due to the wide dissemination of AP stories.
The article claims that the “Department of Health has offered to provide hundreds of sheets of index data if requesters will pay for it. At 25 cents per page, the 1961 birth index data would cost $98.75. So far, no one has paid for the papers.”
The Post & Email can confirm that the Department of Health’s statement that “no one has paid for the papers” is patently false, and they know it.
For the record, The Post & Email has never requested Obama’s “Hawaii birth certificate,” as we are aware that vital records are protected by Hawaii state law. Mr. John Charlton, Founder and Editor Emeritus of The Post & Email, had requested index data and been stonewalled by Hawaii Department of Health Communications Director Janice Okubo.
In his article, Mr. Niesse stated, “State Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued statements last year and in October 2008 saying that she’s seen and verified Obama’s original vital records. Obama celebrated his 49th birthday on Wednesday.” While it is true that Dr. Fukino has made two public statements about Obama’s birth records, she and the Hawaii Health Department have refused to comply with their state’s UIPA law which mandates that public statements of public servants be backed up by presenting the accompanying index data used to prepare the statements. Both Dr. Fukino and Janice Okubo are in violation of that law.
Moreoever, the eligibility of Obama to hold the office of president is not contingent on where he was born. By his own admission, he was born a British subject and at best, with dual British-U.S. citizenship due to his Kenyan father. A dual citizen does not meet the definition of “natural born Citizen” as put forth by the Framers of the nation in the U.S. Constitution.
The Post & Email recently interviewed a native Indonesian who affirmed that Obama’s school registration form from Indonesia stated that he was an Indonesian citizen. He also stated that the name “Soebarkah” was most likely bestowed upon Obama when he was officially adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, as an adoption and change of citizenship were required for Obama and his mother to reside in Indonesia at that time.
It would seem that this would further complicate his ability to meet the “natural born” criterion.
Compounding the doubts about Obama’s “natural born Citizen” status is the fact that highly-placed Kenyan officials claim that he was born there. Several African newspapers reported it as fact long before the 2008 presidential election, and a British newspaper reported it recently.
Even left-leaning commentator Chris Mathews stated that Obama was born in a foreign country.
Not one U.S. hospital claims the birth of the “first black president.” Why not?
Why won’t Dr. Fukino and Janice Okubo provide index data to support the public statements they have made about Obama’s birth records? Why won’t Governor Lingle, who claimed several months ago that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center? Why do reports exist which state that he was born at Queens Medical Center from the time when he was a senator? Why won’t Kapiolani verify Lingle’s claim? Why did Kapiolani publish an electronic “letter” from Obama stating his birthplace there but remove it when confronted? Why has the media previously reported that Obama was born in two different hospitals? Moreover, Obama’s minions refuse to answer the question, or are unable to.
What the mainstream media fails to report is that there are five different ways for a person to obtain a Certification of Live Birth from the Hawaii Department of Health, including as an adult. Particularly in the 1960s when there were numerous immigrants coming in to the new state, a child born in a foreign country could have been registered with the Health Department based on the statement of a relative with no supporting documentation required.
A very detailed report written by Dr. Ron Polland claims that the “document” originally published by Politifact, Factcheck and Daily KOS was a forgery.
Even Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) has described Obama as “an immigrant.” Some staffers on Capitol Hill have reportedly stated that there is absolutely no evidence that Obama is even an American citizen.
Mario Apuzzo, who has a background in citizenship law, describes a “natural born Citizen” as one born in the country to two citizen parents based on the writings of Emmerich de Vattel, whose work provided a framework for the U.S. Founding Fathers when they wrote the Constitution.
The Post & Email seeks the truth about Obama’s birth, his childhood, on what passport he traveled when he visited Pakistan in 1981, his allegiance, and whether or not, given all of the questions which he has refused to answer, he qualifies as an Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5 “natural born Citizen.”
It is doubtful that the Hawaii Department of Health can address all of these questions. However, it is obvious that they have agreed to hide Obama’s records from the American people for an unknown reason behind their state’s privacy laws. There has been no other occupant of the White House, the people’s house, who has denied the public access to his personal records.
Why the Hawaii Health Department and others continue to protect Obama should be the question on every single American’s mind as an 18-year Army medical doctor faces court martial over their obfuscation and lies.
The truth always comes out in the end. Always.
Actually, I see this as a good thing, that the slobbering media will think the birth certificate issue has withered away. We can do without their myopic, rabid, liberal knee-jerks about a Constitutional crisis they are too stupid to understand. Then, when they find themselves on the wrong end of a hot poker, I hope they all quit their day jobs.
Let them think that the case is closed. It’s only getting hotter and wider by the day.
There is such a thing as the tipping point in this identity fraud, and I see its coming as inevitable.
I noticed that the article specifically states: “Hawaii law has long barred the release of a CERTIFIED birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.” (emphasis added)
This is very interesting, since a request by anyone for an “uncertified” copy of birth certificate is theoretically permitted by anyone under the DOH regulations – Chapter 8B, Section 2.5 B(2)). The only birth certificate that I requested was an uncertified one, but it was met with the typical Okubo denial. I wonder if it was Okubo who specifically mentioned the word “certified” to the reporter. Hmmmmm.
According to HDOH rules, the same criteria for getting a certified copy also applies for getting a Letter of Verification – what they call an “uncertified birth certificate,” aka the “direct and tangible interest” rubric. However, in practice, these Letters of Verification (LOV) are given out to organizations whose “direct and tangible interest” is defined by the need for the letter; e.g, anyone authorized to represent a business, a school, a nonprofit organization, a government office, group of electors, a political party, and even a law firm.
The problem is that nobody wanted to get one, and I begged and pleaded with Berg and Taitz to order one. They and everyone else were dead-set on getting the long-form birth certificate or bust.
I would have ordered one if I could.
Here are the requirements for getting a LOV:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]
I mean, there it is. A verification of the information on the COLB was readily available, and none tried to obtain one. Had the DOH refused to provide one, then a lawsuit against them would have done so, IMHO.
The US senate , in 2008 declared that , “to be a natural born citizen , BOTH of ones parents MUST be US citizens” . That was done due to questioning of John McCains elibility . Also , was not Barry’s father a british subject , making him ineligible as well ?
Why not give them the interview ? The press is needed !
And in 2009, the House ‘declared’ Obama to be born in Hawaii on July 27, 2009. When facts are not there what does the government do – just ‘declare’. How Orwellian can you get?
And with the House being THE FIRST GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO OFFICIALLY ‘DECLARE’ OBAMA BORN IN HAWAII guess what happened LATER THAT SAME DAY….
Fukino THEN issues this statement: “I … have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,”
Can you say chicken and the egg? The initial public statement in October of 2008 DID NOT declare Obama born in Hawaii at all. It merely indicated – they had valid records on file. Nothing more. Obviously, Fukino would not stick her neck out any further without cover. The resolution by Hawaii Democrat Neil Abercrombie gave her that cover. And she dully provided the statement above.
Coincidence? Hardly. A simple matter of ‘you give me cover from Washington, Mr. Abercrombie and I will give your guy cover from here.’ The MSM and left bloggers ran with both statements, but never, never connected them in the same story. How odd given their timing.
Did the House declare that Obama’s father was an American citizen even though he wasn’t? If not, then how did Fukino determine Obama was a natural born citizen if the father on the records she saw was the same as the father listed on the bogus COLB?
My guess is she had no idea what a natural born citizen is.
The AP story was posted here as well:
http://www.startribune.com/nation/100186169.html
In the AP article Okubo offered to sell the index data for year 1961 to anyone willing to pay $98.
She admitted that birth index data contains the year of birth. It contradicts the earlier response from DoH. Why did they provide index data without specifying Obama’s year of birth in their original response?
What other part(s) of birth index data have they refused to release to public?
Why do they hide the registration number?
Along with those showing up in DC between 8/28 and 9/12, the Oath Keepers will also be in DC on 9/12 for those interested.
Very nice job, Mrs. Rondeau.
A response to the local media [San Diego Union-Tribune] to Mark Niesse’s article, ‘Birthers’ fade after passage of law against them
Dear Editor, Whether or not obama has a Hawaii birth certificate is not decisive or relevant. To be President, a candidate must be a natural born citizen. A natural born citizen is one born in a country whose parents are citizens of that country. A Certificate of Live Birth being passed off as a birth certificate, even if authentic and not forged, only fulfills part of the requirement. Persons with dual citizenship or allegiance to two or more countries are not natural born citizens. The reason that this issue will never go away in the current case is the fact that the president’s father was a British Subject and the president, himself, has publicly said he is a British Subject. Facts are facts.
[Signiture & City]
Editor: I know that this poses a dilemma for you. Do you tell your readers the truth? Or do you continue to deceive them? Your call.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Wow…fantastic observation! Now we need 100,000,000 of those comments to get the media to do its job!
Almost 200 years ago, in the War of 1812, Washington was invaded and many of the buildings in the Capital were burned by the British. They were able to invade because the Commander was confident (erroneously) that the Brits would not dare seize the Capital. In 2008 our Capital was once again seized by a Brit (admitted dual citizen). The people of our Nation were confident (erroneously) that our representatives would be vigilant and not allow a Constitutionally ineligible candidate (not born to American citizens) to seize the Presidency, but that happened as well. In 1812 the fires of the Capital woke up the Nation in time to turn back the Brits eventually at New Orleans. By the way, a freak storm and Tornado which put out the Washington fire, inflicted more casualties at Washington on the Brits than the battle. It may be time for a figurative burning of the Capital to occur once more to wake up the Public to realize that the British have once again seized the Capital with the complicity and approval of our representatives and for the People to repossess our Nation and its Government from the unlawful President and his 535 accomplices.
God Bless America.
They know they are losing the battle. Time for a last ditch effort to make it look as if we really didnt want to know the truth because we didnt pay the fee. Nice try.
tried to find this to include with my last post:
http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/08/obamas-birther-strategy-has-backfired.html
Maj. Gen.Jerry R Curry (Ret.) Speaks Out On The Obama Eligibility Issue
“Give up? NEVER!!”
Ditto
I find it comical how Lefty is always trying to win a debate by declaring it over.
This is the Presidency of the USA we are talking about, not some corrupt Illinois election.
The last bit of credibility CNN had, left when Lou Dobbs quit.
Mrs Rondeau, you did a fine job in handling Niesse and with this article, which is excellent.
There was no point to tell Niesse any more than you did. Everything he or anyone could want to know about P&E News and about the Oilbama ineligibility issue can be found at P&E News web site, including links to online sources cited. Niesse knew going into how he would spin the story and there’s nothing you could have said to him that would have changed that.
Again, this is more fine work from P&E News and we thank you for that.
The AP story is just what I expected from MSM, ill informed, shallow juvenile reporting geared to the short attention span of the O’Kool Aid drinkers who don’t want to be distracted from what Mama Big Butt & little booty Sasha are doing in Spain. Lame stream media & the O’Kool Aid drinkers have 2 items that “prove” to them B.O. is legit: a COLB (that is a forgery) and a faded birth announcement in a newspaper. That’s it! ha, ha, ha, ha As far as Republican state Rep. Gene Ward’s comments goes, he’s a RINO putz. Rep. Traitor Gene, we who seek the truth are not tiring of asking the state of HI for O’grifter’s BC, it is THEY who are tired of lying to the public each time the phone rings or an email comes across their screen, hence the Vexatious Requester law. Birdy you might be right. O’grifter’s thugs are busy polishing their brass knuckles & breaking some legs at the DOH in HI & the Kapiolani Hospital, their art departments are busy making him a new BC!
I don’t know what his chances are of winning, but I think that one of the people running for Governor of Hawaii in 2010 has experience in protecting Obama from having his ineligibility exposed.
Mr. Niesse should contact those that have presented fraudulent documents as official State of Hawaii documents. Of course this would be supposed ‘reporters’ at Factcheck. They have presented patently fake images of a supposed COLB. They have refused to give interviews on these fake documents. They should be the story. But Mr. Niesse has no interest in actual serious journalism. He is just another shill.
When a person knows inside he has no connection to the people and nation he is in it does more than “complicate his ability to meet the “natural born” criterion.”, It impairs his judgement and unconscious longing for his true home. It has long been accepted that there is a bond between mother and child and that siblings have bonds. There are racial and ethnic bonds as well. It is this nature of man that Vattel describes as bonding one to his nation, his father and his countrymen. Those are much more than complications when you place hundreds of millions of people and hundreds of years of history, bloodshed and a way of life, a culture, under the control of a man with an inate detachment to them. The Law of Nations ought to be respected more than some old pieces of paper as well.
Ms. Rondeau: Is it just me or is Mr. Niesse full of it? You told him that nobody at The Post & Email is requesting the birth certificate, but then he writes in his story that YOU are “one of the requesters.”
It sounds as if he wrote the exact opposite of what you told him. What kind of reporting is this? Where does he get his information that you are one of the requesters? Did somebody at the DoH give out a list of requesters? Is that something the DoH has the authority to do?
Niesse quotes Janice Okubo, “We have a handful of repeat requesters, but they know about the law. They do everything they can to get around it.”
He writes, “Such tactics include having a relative or friend make the document request, SHE SAID [emphasis added], or asking for the vital records of Obama’s relatives in search of clues that would show he was born outside the U.S.”
It doesn’t sound as if Okubo paid any attention to the re-education that the staff at the DoH were given about investigating citizens who request their services.
How in the world would Okubo know who’s a friend or relative of a “vexatious requester,” without investigating them?
Is asking for vital records of someone other than Obama an example of a repeat request that would fall under this law? I think not.
Okubo, I believe, has NO business guessing at the motivation of any requester. What a citizen intends to do with public information has nothing to do with whether or not the DoH is required by law to fulfill the request.
What’s it to her whether the requester is looking for clues to anything?
As I said, I don’t think Okubo got the memo.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: The Post & Email has requested information from the DOH, but not Obama’s birth certificate. It appears to me that the AP, like the rest of the mainstream media, is participating in a disinformation campaign to make it appear that people are asking for something that they know they cannot obtain. We are not. Okubo is a story-teller who will one day be exposed for the tales she has spun. Why hasn’t she challenged Dr. Polland’s video which claims that her COLB was used to create Obama’s? That is a very serious charge, yet she has not refuted it.
Why hasn’t she refuted Dr. Polland’s “very serious” charges? That’s an excellent point.
Imho, it’s because she cannot or dare not. Polland is quite direct in his accusations. If the subject of his accusations were innocent, one would expect the person to defend his or her honor.
There are laws against libel and slander, except that the person making the accusation has to know that the accusation is false. Am I right?
In Dr. Polland’s case, he’s pretty confident that he’s right and I also believe that he’s correct. If they dared to challenge him, either in the press or in the courts, then in the first instance–the press–he’d be able to present his case to a wider audience, which they certainly don’t want. In the second case–the courts–he’d be allowed discovery and they would have to prove that what he says is false. And that he knew that it was false. They most certainly don’t want that, either. The facts aren’t in their favor.
As stated by T. Diane Cejka, Director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service, in a letter to Mr. Kenneth Allen explaining redactions from Lolo Soetoro’s files: “In deciding the disclosure disposition of those documents containing personal details lifted from the lives of private individuals, the documents were closely scrutinized in an effort to identify any public benefit to be gained from their disclosure. It was ultimately determined that no discernable public gain would be achieved from the disclosure of the information subject to this review. On the other hand, the potential private harm that could be suffered as a result of the release of this information was found not only to be tangible, but also SIGNIFICANT AND REASONABLY PROBABLE [emphasis added throughout quote]. In the case of these documents, the potential PRIVATE HARM stemming from their release was determined to clearly outweigh the TOTAL absence of any public benefit to be gained from such disclosure. Consistent with this analysis, it has been concluded that the release of the subject information would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of the personal privacy of the individual(s) to whom it pertains. The USCIS, therefore, must deny your request for access to this information under the authority of FOIA exemption (b)(6).”
The redacted pages were Lolo’s tax returns, wage statements, and evidence concerning the citizenship status of “applicant’s” step-child. That is the only person mentioned in these documents who remains alive. Therefore, something within those papers would most definitely cause “significant and reasonably probable” harm to that individual, who it seems is being protected by persons within his own administration.
OT but critical to the November elections, we must act BEFORE November or it will be too late…
This, is scary…
“By Steve Cooper
The Conservative Monster.com
Fidel Castro called Russia ‘The Soviets’? Was that a Freudian slip? Read my archives on Russia and communism for more, because the Soviet Union and communism never died. It was the greatest hoax in the history of mankind and the left wing plants in the media helped to hide this.
I thought communism was dead? Well it is far from dead folks and they have been fighting us with an invisible hand and that hand is radical Islam. Don’t believe me? Before former KGB agent Alexander Livinenko was poisoned in England with polonium 210 he made this statement “Russia is fighting the USA with an invisible hand”. Now you know why he was murdered by his old mates.
The Republicans have been telling the big lie for many years that “Reagan defeated communism”. Oh really? I think someone should inform Castro, Putin, Chavez, Obama, Hu and Kim Jung-il about this fantasy. The Soviets ‘staged’ their collapse to appear weak; meanwhile they increased espionage after the collapse of the USSR. It is interesting that you never hear the Republicans make that statement publicly.
Well, I believe the same ‘staged’ collapse is coming to the USA courtesy of Obama to avoid WW III. It will be a simultaneous collapse and surrender to avoid an all out war. The Democrats and our gravest enemies are working together to make sure that the Republicans do not take back any power. Most people are hip to their Marxist agenda and they have to act now to avoid a November slaughter at the polls.
These evil bastards will do anything to keep power and that includes plotting with our enemies. Otherwise, the Republicans will take back control and this will upset the Marxists in Russia and China who are orchestrating this entire Islamic and Marxist revolution that we have been seeing since 9-11.
I have been warning people and it is document on radio appearances and my website that they are all baiting Israel into a war. this will start a tsunami of events that will change the world forever as we know it. I said over and over that “Our enemies do not want the Republicans taking back anything”.
There will be an outcry to have the UN declare a global emergency and global martial law; which will be the one world communist government that we all have been waiting to arrive. We are on the doorstep folks.
Of course I do not know for sure that they will do this, but I WOULD if I were in their shoes. NOW is the perfect time to strike, because they have their communist plant in the White House. They have been planning this the past 100 years, but phase two kicked in back in 1958 when it was devised by the KGB after Stalin died.
Plus, the US Military and spread out all over the world and we are BROKE. I have been thinking about their strategy for quite some time and this is the scenario that I envision:
China will invade and secure Taiwan
Russia will invade Georgia
Venezuela will invade Colombia
North Korea will invade South Korea
Multiple terrorist attacks within the USA that will be blamed on Al Qaeda, but Russian special forces (Spetznaz) will be the real culprits.
Israel will be attacked by guess who? The religion of peace…
World communism will be in place….they won.
Do you think I am crazy? Castro is speaking on behalf of PUTIN and it does not take a damn rocket scientist to figure that out.
My advice to you and to make sure that you have plenty of food and water to ride this wave…and pray. The Tea Parties were 50 years too late. Your grand parents should have listened to McCarthy, rather than attacking him.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/07/1766036/fidel-castro-at-cuban-parliament.html
http://theconservativemonster.com/2010/08/06/fidel-castro-to-warn-assembly-of-nuclear-war-between-the-usa-and-russian-proxies-iran-and-north-korea.aspx“
The Hawaii newspapers still haven’t explained and confirmed the forged Obama birth announcements. Mainstream media is like Mainstream medicine. Take the alternative every time.
http://www.naturalborncitizen2.blogspot.com
We don’t need Emerich De Vattel. We don’t need Obama’s papers. We don’t need extra-Constitutional opinions. What we need is a comprehensive analysis of what the text of the CONSTITUTION says about eligibility to the presidency:
1. The Constitution exempts many would-be natural born citizens from having to satisfy the natural born citizen requirement, namely those people born in the Untied States to 2 US citizen parents who were citizens of the Untied States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. Why oh why would the Constitution exempt these would-be natural born citizens from having to satisfy the requirement if indeed they were natural born citizens? (And, thereby unnecessarily opening wide the eligibility to the Executive to foreign-born people who were citizens at the time of the adoption…) And, if they were not natural born citizens despite their birth in the US and despite their US citizenship from birth, what was their flaw?
ANSWER: These US-born US-citizens-from-birth were not natural born citizens as intended by the Constitution because they were not born in the exclusive jurisdiction of the GOVERNMENT established by the Constitution. These US-born US-citizens-from-birth were born in the jurisdiction of the government established by the Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union. A flesh and blood example of this circumstance is President Zachary Taylor.
2. The Constitution tests the president’s loyalty to the government it established in two parallel ways: the oath of office requirement and the natural born citizen requirement. BOTH require exclusive loyalty and allegiance to the GOVERNMENT which the Constitution established, not simply to the country. One is a birth-related test, the other an inauguration-related test. Both have the same standard: exclusive loyalty to GOVERNMENT of the Constitution, not simply loyalty to country under any government:
Article II, Section 1, Clause 8: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the Untied States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the Untied States.”
See? It’s not to preserve, protect, and defend the Untied States! Rather, it’s to preserve, protect and defend the CONSTITUTION of the Untied States. Just as the Constitution tests the president’s exclusive loyalty to the government which it established via the required oath, so too does it test the president’s exclusive loyalty to the government which it established via the natural born citizen requirement.
When Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu in the State of Hawaii he was a US citizen. But he was simultaneously a Kenyan citizen and British subject. His circumstances of birth were shared among as many as three governments. (We don’t need any discovery to support these claims.) Just as his oath of office would not allow him to swear to preserve, protect, and defend these three governments, so too does the natural born citizen requirement disallow a person who has birth-related allegiances and loyalties to any GOVERNMENT other than the one established by the Constitution.
In Federalist #40, Madison discusses the interpretation of language: “There are two rules of construction, dictated by plain reason, as well as founded on legal axioms. The one is, that every part of the expression ought, if possible, to be allowed some meaning, and be made to conspire to some common end.”
When considering what the Constitution says about natural born citizen, we must allow these two elements [(1) the Oath and (2) the terms under which US-born US-citizens-from birth were exempted from the requirement] to have meaning and to con-spire to the end. That end is this: The Constitution itself tells us that Barack Obama is INELIGIBLE.
Leo, Leo Donofrio, where are you ?!
Don’t you think it a little curious that all of this media attention has just appeared in the last couple of days?
CNN poll (8/4): http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/08/04/rel10k1a.pdf
CNN story (8/6): http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/06/birther.court.martial/index.html
AP (8/7): http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_BIRTH_CERTIFICATE_HIOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
These all focus on Obama’s birth certificate and where he was born. None of them mention the issue that Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to his father being a foreigner. Are we about to see a fabricated Birth Certificate about to appear from the Hawaii DOH showing Obama born in Honolulu along with fabricated documents from Kapi’olani hospital?
And let us not forget this one:
CNN (8/6): http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/06/terrence.lakin.birther.bio/
Plus the Dept. of State suddenly decided to release the Stanley Ann Dunham passport applications per Strunk’s FOIA request after more than a year of delay (minus the 1965 renewal and likely 1961 new passport request).
Has the Lt. Col. Lakin situation stirred things up?
That’s possible, but it had better be good,,,,,,and what would the excuse be for waiting so long?
Also, this very late release of documents we should have seen years ago would have to bring attention to the natural born citizen requirement per the Constitution.
I hope the increased attention is coming from the acceptance, (finally) that this issue isn’t going away, and to get ahead of the game before the floodgates open.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: What’s very interesting is that all the documents from between 1961 and 1964 seem to have “vanished.” I wonder if it’s because they would show that Stanley Ann was out of the country and that therefore Obama’s birth was in a foreign country?
Well, does anyone think that, if needed, the most powerful man on the planet, backed by billionaires, would be unable to “produce” a piece of paper showing a Hawaiian birth? On the other hand, the document that he cannot produce is the one that shows Obama Senior to have been a US citizen.
Oilbama, with almost $2million in campaign contributions and taxpayers’ money, has been stalling for this moment. With Kagan now on the SCOTUS, he’s ready. The SCOTUS will very soon address the eligibility issue of Oilbama. They will accept as proof either the online COLB or a counterfeit birth certificate will be accepted without checking against the issuing state’s registrar. The SCOTUS will (re)define “natural born citizen” in a way that renders Oilbama eligible.
Kagan and Sotomayor will have to recuse themselves if any eligibility case comes before the Supreme Court. The reason is that, if Obama is proven to be not eligible to be President, both of them will also be determined to be invalid appointments to the court.
EXCELLENT! Concise. Truth. There is no gray. Its about the Common Law. Is the USA going to be a nation of its Law, or not? At current, it is evident, it is not.
I am extremely proud of The Post & Email, you are THE light in the dark. I have profound gratitude and appreciation for your work, and your steadfast commitment. God speed.
PS. The people of Hawaii are a good people. The majority do not desire harm against the “mainland”. However, the leaders of Hawaii are mostly corrupted [much like those in leadership in the U.S. Government and the majority of its States]. The people that work for the “city & county” of Honolulu and the “state” of Hawaii, desire only to work and go home, they do not have the political drive or cravings for power you see on the mainland. I firmly believe, continuous [legal] pursuit via the city/state workers will bring forth the truth.
Excellent Reporting. I love the way Sharon Rondeau ‘sucked in’ the AP Reporter to do his job. As if the New York Times wants to interview Fox news, then blame Fox for any repercussions. Can’t the main stream think for themselves?
Recently I’ve read Glenn Beck’s August 28th rally could possibly center around the bc controversy. Featured speakers may include Phil Berg to discuss his ineligibility lawsuit.
The timing couldn’t be worse with Elena Kagan’s recent confirmation. Her name is listed on legal documents/case numbers as usurper’s defense representation. hmmm. I wonder why Beck who ridicules “birthers” would come forward with Berg on this AFTER her confirmation? Perhaps this is only rumor but, I find it odd.
Another good article, Sharon. Perhaps you have caused them to squirm a bit. Cheers!
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Hopefully Mr. Niesse will read my article which contains much evidence to refute the DNC and Obama’s claim that he is a “natural born Citizen.”
Amber, whoever wrote that Beck’s rally would be focused on Oilbama’s ineligibility issue confused the 912 rally with Dr Kate’s Platoon Rally.
The mission on this leg of the journey is to build a bridge between Glenn Beck’s event on August 28 and the September 11-12 events. While neither of these bookend events is likely to focus on Obama’s ineligibility, we will keep the fire alive between those events, expecting to network with the many who will be in Washington during that period.
http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/drkates-platoon-takes-the-hill/
Wake up America! There is an Elephant in the room and you can’t see it! Or smell it!
There has been a coup, a Communist coup and they have taken over what was once OUR Government and are now in control of our politicians, our Courts, and of course our main stream media. This is far bigger a takeover than anyone can believe. It is backed by the World Wide New World Order that wants to destroy our Capitalistic Republic and force us into subservience to the Communist style illusion the worlds Bankers and super rich have planed to destroy the last major hold out to the New World Order’s total domination of this planet. We have to be forced into complying with the New World Order because our resources are needed to finance this catastrophe. They want to spread “our” wealth around. Once our wealth is spread around the globe equally we will then “all” be poor and the super rich will be able to do as they please with the Earth’s resources and we will then be the slave labor they so desire. We will be slaves to the state because they will house and feed us and control us with an iron fist! Were closer to that during the last 2 years than we have ever been before. Were headed there in the next two years unless we WAKE UP! In 6 years there will be no way to reverse this process. Fight this Evil wherever it hides and it is not hiding so much anymore, they feel confidant enough to openly demand the things they need to pull this coup off right in front of our eyes. Obama Care, Cap and Trade, Government owned businesses, Communists in every department of what was once “our” government, and a foreign usurper sleeping in our White House. Wake up and smell the Elephant, you are walking in it’s excrement today. Clean up this mess!
The obama himself admits he is NOT and American.
http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=9346
This shows some of the above and a lot more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded
This should be broadcast on every station in the country daily and shown in both houses of Congress every day!?!?!?
Just how corrupt can Congress be?!!?!?
The first clip in this video is fake, a montage. That makes the rest of the video unusable for any meaningful debate.
Some of the other clips can be found as separate videos on YouTube.
Watch the video! Not sure the date it was recorded but there it is. If you want even more information check into ATLAH.org. Reverend Manning has clearly stated he will die for the cause to bring the truth about Obama out!
Thank you Post & Email! Thank you for your dedication on exposing the usurper. You are pin point accurate, THE TRUTH WILL TRUMP! ( that sounds like a good bumper sticker, hmmmmmmmm). God Bless the United States of America and our Military!!
No, LTC will not get a fair trial, look at what has already happened to him, he has been denied due process, he has been denied “discovery” of evidence for his court martial, yesterday he was dragged in and out of court with a gag order in place so he could not talk with anybody, not even his lawyer, do you think that is fair. As far as Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Obama AKA Soebarkah, total fraud, this usurper along with all of his cohorts needs to be removed and arrested for crimes against the nation.
Good job Mrs. Rondeau …
It does seem, though, that the self-described “reporter” has a bit of difficulty in getting his facts in order since his description “… Sharon Rondeau, editor of The Post & Email website that publishes efforts to disprove Obama’s birth in the United States …” is quite wrong. It would have been far more correct to say that you are reporting on a man (Obama) who has never shown himself to be legally eligible to hold the office he now occupies. It does not matter where the man was born due to his own admission against interest that Pappy was a Brit and, therefore, so was he.
If Mr. Niesse were an investigative reporter worth his salt (or poi, in this case) he might have interviewed several of those in his own backyard who have been clearly identified by name (Fukino being only one of them) by Dr. Polland’s remarkable videos of being guilty of felonious criminal document fraud. THAT would indeed be a real story and he’d have a leg up on further interviews with those felons after they are tried and sentenced. That’s what REAL reporters do rather than try to help coverups in their home state.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Yes, to me, his article simply parroted what Janice Okubo had to say, and she has been known to make false statements. I wonder why he isn’t even curious that another reporter from Hawaii reported in 2006 that Obama was born in Indonesia?
Give ’em Hell Sharon.
The truth will indeed prevail.
ELmo
I wish you would have talked to Niesse to clear up the myths about how Hawaii allegedly debunked the so-called birther myths. It would be especially helpful to explain to him how the certificate number could be used lawfully (according to the OIP opinion letter found by butterdezillion and posted at Hawaii.gov’s website) as part of the Index Data which the DOH refuses to release. I doubt he’s aware of how much disinformation and outright lies the DOH has employed to avoid complying with their own disclosure laws in order to protect someone whose records should require no protection.
Why hide this? Why has Obama paid sooo much to seal all of his records?
What about Lakin, a true patriot, will he get a fair hearing?
Excellent report, good work, and bravo for the integrity with which this site operates.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Thank you, Dr. Kate.
Good article Sharon. Thanks. Something about this doesn’t pass the smell test. First they (HI Dept. of Health) clamped down on records, ignored, danced around, and changed their stories to those asking for information about Obama’s birth, and now they want people’s names and claim they will give birth index info for money? You’re right, people have stopped asking because they know they will not get any straight forward, honest answers so why bother? Many of us feel that it doesn’t matter where Obama was born, including on the steps of the white house. He still would not be a natural born citizen IF he was telling the truth about who his father is. Then again, he could have lied about that as easily as he has lied to the American people about everything else. Right? There isn’t a fading out of ‘birthers’ as the Niesse article suggests. Those interested in Obama’s bc has increased significantly. We just know that HI Dept. of Health isn’t going to help anyone since they are in on the cover-up with Obama.
He may have lied about the real identity of his father (does he even know for sure?), but he certainly acknowledged the parentage and ancestry in the letter he wrote and signed on June 22, 2005 to the principal of the village secondary school built on land given by his grandfather in Kogelo, Kenya. In absence of a valid long form birth certificate, that story stands.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Do you have a copy or link to that letter?
So the article by Mr. Niesse makes it sound like we are giving up, when we are just agreeing with the 2008 Hawaii elections supervisor, Mr. Tim Adams, who is willing to testify under oath that there is no Hawaii long-form birth certificate for Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro/Steve Dunham or whatever his name really is.
Give up? NEVER!!
Much of the truth about Obama’s ineligibility to hold the office of President of The United States of America, has already come out, but the criminal cabal in Washington D.C. and the mainstream media refuse to acknowledge it.
Every day that passes compounds the criminality of this conspiracy of silence.