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Okubo responds to public outcry for investigation

RELEASES REDACTED PRINT-OUTS OF HAWAII BIRTH INDEX, WHICH IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS PROVE ONLY ONE THING

by John Charlton

(Feb. 26, 2010) — In response to the public outcry over my last report regarding Okubo’s apparently false response to my request for index data from the Hawaii Birth Index, Miss Janice Okubo has directed staff at the Hawaii Department of Health to release a pdf file containing what appears to be scans of a computer printout containing redacted pages from the Hawaii Birth Index for those sections, which would contain the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

My initial UIPA request of January 22, 2010, sought the index data for all children on the Hawaii Birth Index whose parents’ surnames were either Obama, Payne, Soetoro or Dunham.  The Certificate of Hawaii Birth was issued from 1911 to 1972 for those who wished to have a document proving that they were born in Hawaii.  It was a way to apply for a document for those who were born a year before the request was made and who did not have a standard birth certificate, presumably because they were born at home, not in a hospital.  I had made my UIPA request to determine if Obama was born before Hawaii became a state, but a name on this Index does not exclusively prove that.  If you read the link on “Certificate of Hawaii Birth” you can see that it was granted to those who provided what the Department of Health considered sufficient proof of a a birth in Hawaii.  Thus it provided a vehicle to claim a Hawaii birth without actually being born in Hawaii, if only one succeeded in convincing the Department that you were.

In response to the evasive denials of my original UIPA request and the outright claim I had written what I did not write, Miss Janice Okubo admitted to me last week that microfiches of the Hawaii Birth Index did exist and that they did not contain the said surnames.  Following my disclosure of that to several friends, I was given a copy of a Treasury Department Document from 1949 showing that at least one individual with the surname Dunham was born in Hawaii during the period in which the Hawaii Birth Index was used.

As a consequence, I wrote Miss Okubo and asked for copies of the microfiche to prove the veracity of her claim and offered to pay for them.  I also suggested to readers of The Post & Email that they contact Mrs. Lingle, the governor of the State of Hawaii, asking for an outside review of the matter.

Today’s release of a pdf file appears to be the Department of Health’s way of responding to this public outcry, even though the documents do not prove anything, since they are not prima facie evidence of anything, other than that

1) the Department does not understand how to respond to a UIPA request:  I asked for microfiche copies, not pdfs of computer printouts,

2) does not understand how to respond to the Press:  obstructed my UIPA request for three weeks, made false claim, and never responded to my email to Miss Okubo asking her to look into this matter,

3) and does not understand how to respond properly to a public call for investigation with solidly confirmatory documents:  if the Department thinks these images are corroborating evidence, I would hate to think what kind of evidence they accept to issue a Certificate of Hawaii Birth!  If this is the standard of evidence in 2010, what was it in 1961?

Indeed, an impartial observer to this present affair, considering this manner of response of the Department to my UIPA request, now has even more evidence to regard the claim of Obama being born in Hawaii (based on having a Hawaii Birth Certificate) as even more dubious, as that Department evidently does not understand or use any professional sense of the term “prima facie evidence.”  This can only mean that any Certificate of Live Birth that they might issue is worthless as evidence without a concomitant disclosure of all supporting documentation filed to obtain it — which has been the contention of this e-Newspaper from the beginning.

Please note that it is not an unimportant fact that the images released do show that the Birth Index data does contain the names of the parents.  In her correspondence with me, Okubo denied that I could ask for the Birth Index information for children based on the surnames of the parents.  So if these images are evidentiary in any manner, they are evidentiary of Okubo’s obstruction of my initial UIPA request, since I never asked for the parents’ names, only the names of the children.  She has the names of the parents right there; why did she refuse to do a search on that basis?

Finally, it should be emphasized that this UIPA request is not in itself very important, but the manner in which the Department of Health has responded to it is what is important.  If the actual microfiche shows no such surnames, then Miss Okubo will be vindicated, and I will apologize, as all I am interested in is the truth.  Miss Okubo, we, the press or the public cannot know what that is unless you cooperate with the UIPA in a timely, courteous, exact, and coherent manner.  When you fail to do this, you only undermine the reputation of your own department, even if on account of such failures, we might at times doubt or believe you when we ought to do the opposite.

Below are electronic images of the PDF file, in a format which makes their viewing accessible to the readers of this electronic paper.  I have only reduced them and converted them to jpg.

A Redacted Computer print-out, allegedly of the Hawaii Birth Index for surnames beginning with "Du"

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A Redacted Computer print-out, allegedly of the Hawaii Birth Index for surnames beginning with "Ob"

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A Redacted Computer print-out, allegedly of the Hawaii Birth Index for surnames beginning with "Pa"

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A Redacted Computer print-out, allegedly of the Hawaii Birth Index for surnames beginning with "So"

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93 Responses for “Okubo responds to public outcry for investigation”

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  2. SapphireSunday says:

    From the Dept. of Health website:
    “The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.”

    Those other Dunhams may have been (probably were) previously registered in Hawaii, probably born in a hospital and received a regular birth certificate.

    Unless I misunderstand the situation, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the Dept. of Health responded incorrectly. Unless those Dunhams were not registered at birth, they wouldn’t be on the Hawaiian Birth Index. Instead of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, they would have a regular Certificate of Live Birth.

    Someone should ask for the same names from the regular birth index. They may be playing games with the names given to the indices. The register for those who received a “standard birth certificate” at birth probably has another name.

    You should also request the same names from the Hawaiian Birth Index between 1960 and 1972.

    Then ask: When a person amends a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth and receives in return a Late (standard) Birth Certificate upon surrender of the COHB, does the person’s name disappear from the Hawaiian Birth Index? Does the person’s name then appear on the regular “standard” birth index, as if that’s how it would have appeared at the time of his birth?

    • AttilasDaughter says:

      On the Leo Donofrio blog I remember were two occasions that the name “Dunham” was misspelled in a response.
      By accident?
      I thought it was a way for them to give false information, but not directly lie.

  3. Father Time says:

    My question: is this the same list that would have been made public to the news papers in 1961 use by these papers to post Obama’s birth announcement?

    If not the request for that list given to the news papers should still be public from 1961 because once public always public.

  4. tminu says:

    …meaning someone took advantage of the Hawaii laws allowing foreign-borns to call themselves Hawaiian born after 1971…this would align with when he ostensibly started pricey Punahau.

    • tminu says:

      Can you get these for after 1971?

      • tminu says:

        meaning could one apply for these non-conforming bc’s after 1971? I take it to mean these were for home-births or foreign-borns (based on testimony that parents lived in Hawaii for 1 year prior to purported birth)…

        What the lists do, is exclude Obama from having a non-conforming bc for all probable years of his birth, i.e. he can’t say he had a home-birth or pre-statehood birth as any excuse for not having a hospital bc, which he does not have.

        Between Fukino breaking laws, Okubo’s obfuscations/lies, Lingle’s noncompliance, Attorney General’s refusal to corroborate, Kapiolani’s reports that he was not born there…I see nothing remaining except a total fabrication.

  5. tminu says:

    Since the Hawaii Birth index does not show him, does this mean he was not born in Hawaii, unless of course, he was born in Hawaii, but someone filed for a late or amended Certification of Live Birth some time after 1971?

  6. Joe says:

    What am I missing here? I do not see any of the surnames in question listed in the above posted pdf files. Does the date range of this supposed index include when Pres Obama would have been born, and if so, does not that fact that his surname is not present in the index indicate that Hawaii has no record of his certification of live birth, proving that what Obama posted online is bogus?

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