Additional Kamala Harris Documents Raise More Questions

MIDDLE NAME “CORRECTION,” DIFFERENT NAMES USED FOR MATERNAL GRANDFATHER

by Sharon Rondeau

Image tweeted by @kancelkamala on September 24, 2020

(Sep. 25, 2020) — On Thursday evening, the Twitter account @KamalaKancel (also @KancelKamala) released a document appearing to indicate that Shyamala Gopalan Harris, the late mother of Democratic vice-presidential candidate and U.S. Senator Kamala D. Harris, often reversed her first and last names on U.S. government documents beginning in 1958.

The New York Times reports that in 1963, Gopalan Harris, then working on a Ph.D. at the University of California, Berkeley, married Donald J. Harris, a Jamaican national also completing his doctoral degree at Berkeley.  “Members of the study group that drew them together in 1962, known as the Afro American Association, would help build the discipline of Black studies, introduce the holiday of Kwanzaa and establish the Black Panther Party,” The Times wrote in a lengthy article published September 13 and updated six days later.

“@Kancelkamala’s Thursday release followed previous publications alleging what the Twitter account characterizes as “immigration fraud” on Gopalan Harris’s part.

If proven authentic, the documents would provide confirmation that neither of Kamala Harris’s parents was a U.S. citizen at the time of her birth, a question arising in connection with whether or not Kamala Harris meets the “natural born Citizen” requirement for president which is also mandated for the vice president by the 12th Amendment.

One lawsuit of which The Post & Email is aware has been filed challenging Kamala Harris’s constitutional eligibility to serve as vice president or president, should she be called upon to do so in a Biden-Harris administration.

The document released Thursday night appears to this writer to be a composite of portions of five or more California-issued documents, one of them a “Birth Index” entry. The sixth source is identified as “INS Form I-538,” with “INS” a reference to the former Immigration and Naturalization Service.

A September 3, 1958 sworn statement which Gopalan Harris, then single, completed and signed at a U.S. consulate in Calcutta, India for admission to the U.S. to pursue higher education at the University of California, Berkeley, bears the signature “G. Shyamala.”

According to her current Wikipedia entry, Gopalan Harris’s “professional” name was expressed as “Gopalan Shyamala or G. Shyamala,” but public reporting refers to her as “Shyamala Gopalan” or Shyamala Gopalan Harris.”

Top of Wikipedia biographical page for Shyamala Gopalan Harris on September 25, 2020

 

On a September 29, 1964 work-permit application as a “nonimmigrant ‘F-1’ student,” her name, as the “applicant,” was expressed as “Shyamala Gopalan Harris,” but her “maiden name” is indicated as “Gopalan Shyamala.”  The document is stamped “OCT 30 1964” by what appears to be an INS official in the San Francisco office.  At the bottom-left of the form is the identifier, “Form I-538.”  Although partially obscured, the form appears to have been signed, “Shyamala Gopalan.”

On what appears to be a status form indicating she was permitted to remain in the country through “4-1-65,” her name is expressed as “SHYAMALA, Gopalan,” with a box for “other names or aliases” left blank.  On that form, her status is said to have been “F-1” and the “date of admission” “9-16-63.”  The date of the “report” is noted as “10-30-64,” ten days after her daughter Kamala’s birth.

An application apparently filed by then-21-year-old Kamala Harris to request a visa for her mother to re-enter the United States after she spent a number of years in scientific research in Montreal, Canada, her mother’s name, or “beneficiary,” is expressed as “Harris, Shyamala Gopalan,” with the acknowledgement that another name by which she had been known was “Gopalan, Shyamala.”

A Curriculum Vitae produced in 1986 or later expresses the name as “Dr. G. Shyamala” and statets that her Master’s degree was completed in 1960 and doctorate in 1964, which is consistent with the aforementioned “status form.”

Each section of the image in Thursday’s tweet appears to have been labeled with the source document from which it purportedly came, beginning with “Entry Form 9/3/1958” bearing the signature “G. Shyamala.”  The line noted to the right as “Marriage License 7/1/1963” notes the bride’s first name as “Gopalan” and her last as “Shyamala.”  What appears to be an image of the marriage certificate between Gopalan and “Donald Jasper Harris” expresses her name as “Gopalan Shyamala.”

The shaded line labeled “California Marriage Index 1963” shows “Harris Donald J” and the name “Iyer Gopalan,” an as-yet unidentified reference.

What is identified as “INS From I-538” dated “12/9/1963” states the applicant’s first name as “GOPALAN” and the last name as “SHYAMALA.”  In the box below, in response to, “If applicant is a married woman, state maiden name” is written, “RETAINING MY MAIDEN NAME.  MARRIED NAME IS SHYAMALA G. HARRIS.”

Below that is what appears to be Kamala Harris’s birth certificate.  In the State of California, an “informational copy” of a birth certificate may be obtained by members of the public unrelated to the registrant.

The certificate states Harris’s birth as having occurred on October 20, 1964 at “9:28 P.” at the Kaiser Foundation Hospital located at 280 West MacArthur Blvd., Oakland, Alameda County, a facility now referred to “Kaiser Foundation Hospital Oakland/richmond.”

The “maiden name” of the child’s mother is noted as “Gopalan Shyamala,” and her race “Caucasian.”

Harris’s middle name is given as “Iyer” and not “Devi,” as she is now known.  Overlapping the box with “Iver” is a stamp which reads, “AMENDED” with “1 of 2” in a box below it.

Below the birth certificate section is a document titled “AFFIDAVIT TO CORRECT A RECORD” stamped “2 of 2” with the purpose noted, “To correct middle name of child” from “Iyer” to “Devi.”

In a document released by @KancelKamala on Friday, the identifier “Marriage License 7/1/1963” shows the “Father of Bride” as “Gopalan Iyer.”  However, Kamala’s grandfather, who worked for the Indian government, is widely known as “P.V. Gopalan.”  On what is said to be “INS Form 230” dated “2/3/1986,” Shyamala’s father’s name is stated as “P.V. Gopalan.”

Today, a “DS-230” is an “Application for Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration.”  Whether or not the two forms are equivalent is unknown.

 

20 Responses to "Additional Kamala Harris Documents Raise More Questions"

  1. CDR Kerchner (Ret)   Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 1:54 PM

    David Ramsay’s 1789 Dissertation on Citizenship:
    https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/09/27/david-ramsays-1789-dissertation-on-citizenship/

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  2. CDR Kerchner (Ret)   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 7:16 PM

    The Three Legged Stool Test for Being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/the-three-legged-stool-test-for-natural-born-citizen-of-the-united-states-to-constitutional-standards/

    And Kamala Harris fails the test: https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/07/23/u-s-senator-kamala-harris-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen-of-usa-not-eligible-to-be-president-and-cinc-or-vp/

    Kamala Harris was a Citizen of Jamaica at Birth and owes homage and allegiance to the Queen of Jamaica/England at birth. Her birth in CA does not abrogate her foreign citizenship (gained via her foreign national father and mother temporarily sojourning in the USA), foreign influence, and innate required allegiance to a foreign country and her sovereign Queen at birth: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/09/19/kamala-harris-owes-homage-and-allegiance-to-queen-of-jamaica/

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  3. CDR Kerchner (Ret)   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 4:49 PM

    White Paper by CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret) about the “natural born Citizen” term and presidential eligibility clause in Article II of our U.S. Constitution here: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/The-Who-What-When-Where-Why-and-How-of-NBC-Term-in-Constitution.pdf

    Kamala Harris is NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States. Birth in CA may at most get her to be a Citizen under the 14th Amendment. And even that is in dispute by some constitutional scholars. But the adjectives natural born are not in the 14th Amendment and it did not address or alter the presidential eligibility clause. Kamala Harris was born with foreign influence and citizenship and innate allegiance requirement to a foreign country. A dual-Citizen at birth cannot be a natural born Citizen at birth. Adjectives mean something.

    Kamala Harris owes homage and allegiance to the Queen of Jamaica: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/09/19/kamala-harris-owes-homage-and-allegiance-to-queen-of-jamaica/ Also see some educational material on basic logic and fallacious arguments: https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/of-natural-born-citizens-and-citizens-at-birth-and-basic-logic-trees-are-plants-but-not-all-plants-are-trees-natural-born-citizens-nbc-are-citizens-at-birth-cab-but-not-all-cab/

    Mr. Socratic Method George Dallas if a real person and not simply an AI agent automated troll chooses not to read any of this and try to understand it. He does not wish to learn. He is here to mislead, gas-light, and seed doubts and disinformation.

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  4. Stephen J Hiller   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 12:18 PM

    Sharon – you are correct (as usual) that any word over one syllable and any sentence of more than a few words will simply confuse the simple ones. Turns out the Common Core curriculum
    (oops, sorry, too many syllables) is at fault, So what they can’t read, we have to pass them anyway. (Is this where Pelosi got her idea about Obamacare? “We have to pass it to see what’s in it” ,,, and ad infinitum.)

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    1. Sharon Rondeau   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 3:18 PM

      I think you are referring to a comment from Joseph DeMaio.

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  5. Randy Disher   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 10:37 AM

    Kamila Harris was born in Oakland, CA to alien parents who were under the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of her birth. That makes her a natural born citizen according to the laws and Constitution of the United states. There is not a single court decision that can be used to challenge this statement and multiple decisions support it. The polls, which have been consistent, show she will become the first female vice president of the United States.

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    1. Sharon Rondeau   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 3:58 PM

      Comment from Joseph DeMaio:

      “For the benefit of Messrs. Disher, Dallas and the similarly-opinionated, as an added bonus to the ‘post-simplification’ task under way, your humble servant may need to prepare a separate, more basic ‘Eligibility for Dummies’ primer…, but that too may take some time.”

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      1. Jigsaw St. John   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 4:47 PM

        If Mr. DeMaio could, can he please include in his primer evidence that the Framers used Vattel as a source for the term natural born citizen.

        We know they referenced Blackstone’s Commentaries for legal terms.

        We also know Hamilton wrote in a legal brief that to finding the meaning of terms in the Constitution we need to look to English law.

        ” …where so important a distinction in the Constitution is to be realized, it is fair to seek the meaning of terms in the statutory language of that country from which our jurisprudence is derived.”

        https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/hamilton-the-works-of-alexander-hamilton-federal-edition-vol-8#lf0249-08_head_073

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        1. CDR Kerchner (Ret)   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 7:34 PM

          The founders and framers got the terms on citizenship from Natural Law of which Vattel’s treatise was the most widely read in the founding time frame. In that treatise the term natural born Citizen is clearly defined. A person born in the country of parents who are both citizens of that country.The founders and framers clearly used natural law sources not a constitutional monarchy, which they just threw off to determine who would be eligible to be the President and Commander in Chief. The founders and framers did not look to English common law to write the founding documents. They looked to Natural Law and laws of nature to justify the revolution and write the federal constitution for the new constitutional republic. Read the preambles to the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution after you have read Volume 1 of the legal treatise on Principles of Natural Law by Emer de Vattel. See: https://www.scribd.com/lists/3224507/Vattel-s-Influence-on-U-S-Founders-Constitution-s-Framers … and … https://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/04/benjamin-franklin-in-1775-thanks.html … and … https://lonang.com/library/reference/vattel-law-of-nations/vatt-119/

        2. Jigsaw St. John   Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 1:06 PM

          “The founders and framers got the terms on citizenship from Natural Law of which Vattel’s treatise was the most widely read in the founding time frame.”

          But they also used Blackstone’s Commentaries at the Convention as a reference for terms.

          “Mr. DICKENSON mentioned to the House that on examining Blackstone’s Commentaries, he found that the terms, [FN5] “ex post facto” related to criminal cases only” James Madison August 29th,1787

          https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_829.asp

          They also used the English system to model American processes as Hamilton pointed out in Federalist 65.

          “The model from which the idea of this institution [Impeachment] has been borrowed, pointed out that course to the convention. In Great Britain it is the province of the House of Commons to prefer the impeachment, and of the House of Lords to decide upon it.”

          https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed65.asp

          Notice how they took House of Commons and changed it to House of Representatives and changed House of Lords to U.S. Senate.

          Did they modify natural born subject to natural born citizen?

    2. Ed Sunderland   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 7:29 PM

      Kamala Harris was born to two illegal alien parents and born under the jurisdiction of Jamaica. If her dad or mom had some kind of legal trouble while in the United States they would have to seek a remedy through the Jamaican Embassy. End of that story and NO she is NOT a natural-born citizen. As a matter of fact, her citizenship is a questionable period because of their and your misinterpretation of the 14th amendment.

      Kamala needs to display proof she is a citizen because her birth certificate says she is Jamaican from her dad and Jamaican jurisdiction. Furthermore, Kamala grew up and graduated High School in Canada. “Was she also a Canadian citizen like Ted Cruz or does she think she is an anchor baby like the other vote fraudster Marco Rubio?”

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      1. George Dallas   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 8:41 PM

        If Harris’ U.S. citizenship is questionable (and there’s no evidence that she ever naturalized after her birth in the United States), then how was she able to serve as a U.S. Senator?

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      2. Lew Harper   Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 9:15 AM

        “Kamala Harris was born to two illegal alien parents”

        It appears they were here legally on F-1 student visas.

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    3. James Carter   Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 9:10 AM

      “That makes her a natural born citizen according to the laws and Constitution of the United states.”

      Please cite the specific laws or Article, Section and Clause of, or Amendment to, the U.S. Constitution which make someone born a citizen of three different countries, aka Kamala Harris, a “natural born citizen” of the Unites States of America…and describe how they do that.

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  6. Roger Murtaugh   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 12:13 AM

    Iyer is a Tamil Hindu title meaning noble. Sometimes adopted as a surname but other times simply added to a name.

    Naming conventions in India are complicated:

    26.11. Both men and women adopt their father’s name in front of their own personal name.
    Tamils often use only the first letter of their father’s name as an initial and then their own
    personal name in full:
    e.g. Alagaratnam Rasiah may be known as A. Rasiah.

    26.12 Tamils living in Western society may use their father’s personal name as a family
    name and reverse the name order:
    e.g. Rasiah Alagaratnam.

    26.14 A woman traditionally adopts her husband’s personal name upon marriage in place of
    her father’s personal name:
    e.g. if Muththusaamy Kamalaraani marries Alagaratnam
    Rasiah she may be known as Rasiah Kamalaraani or R.
    Kamalaraani.

    26.19 Some names in Southern India may include a caste name, and may be in the
    following structure:
    place name + personal name + family’s caste name
    e.g. Madurai Mani IYER

    https://www.fbiic.gov/public/2008/nov/Naming_practice_guide_UK_2006.pdf

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  7. George Dallas   Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:40 PM

    So Kamala Iyer Harris was born in Oakland, California, United States?

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    1. Rob Laity   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 3:27 AM

      Kamala Harris’ middle name is Devi not Iyer.

      Yes. She was born in Oakland. TO TWO Foreigners. A citizen of India and a Citizen of British Jamaica. Harris is an anchor baby.

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    2. Sharon Rondeau   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 8:52 AM

      Response from Joseph DeMaio:

      “Yes, from all appearances, Kamala Devi Harris was born in Oakland, California… and if that fact alone rendered her a natural born citizen, these discussions would not be necessary. However, because neither her mother nor her father – from all appearances – were U.S. citizens at the time of her birth, she is very likely not a natural born citizen as understood by the Founders and the prime author of the 14th Amendment, as explained here (https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/08/13/kamala-devi-harris-vs-the-12th-amendment/), here (https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/08/18/the-kamala-devi-harris-eligibility-question-part-1/) and here (https://www.thepostemail.com/2020/08/19/the-kamala-devi-harris-eligibility-question-part-2/).

      “Lamentably, some are struggling to understand these facts. Accordingly, your humble servant is currently working on simplified versions of these prior posts, utilizing smaller words and shorter sentences in an effort to accommodate those who are having difficulty comprehending the details. The task may take some time.”

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    3. George Dallas   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 2:10 PM

      So these additional documents didn’t raise any questions about Harris’a being born in the United States.

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      1. CDR Kerchner (Ret)   Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 6:59 PM

        Because Dear George the fact that Kamala Harris was born in the USA is not the question that is in dispute regarding her lack of eligibility to be VP. You know that. You are using straw-man questions, in a Socratic Method style, to mislead and confuse people. You are a troll in this thread to mislead, gas-light, and seed disinformation with carefully worded misleading questions with a factual premise not in dispute. You state a fact about something that is not in question and then ask another question in a way to make the unknowing coming by here, as a newbie, that we who are disputing Harris’ constitutional eligibility are disputing a fact that is not in dispute by our side or anyone, i.e., that she was born in CA. All the while you know what the real questions are about Kamala Harris’ eligibility questions really are. Others have told you so many times. Go back and read the replies to you and the actual articles and links. So Mr. Socratic Method troll trying to confuse people, I expect you to reply again by asking another question. You sound at times like a programmed robotic type AI agent, or if not, a trained OBOT/HBOT robot troll.Talking to you you at times seems like talking to one of those old 8-Ball novelty items. You probably change comment ID and IP address at the drop of a byte. ;-)

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