Obama’s Eligibility vs. Trump’s “Fitness”

DOESN’T FORGERY OF GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS “TRUMP” EVERYTHING?

by Sharon Rondeau

(Jan. 6, 2018) — On January 3, CNN’s Brian Stelter appeared to respond in a tweet to a Politico report issued the same day stating that a Yale University professor of psychiatry predicted that Trump will “unravel” and that he is “falling apart under stress.”

Stelter opined that while “Q’s (questions) about his health” are “uncomfortable,” “it is incumbent on journalists to ask these Q’s and report out the answers,” including a link to an online newsletter containing content from Stelter’s show, “Reliable Sources.”

The newsletter presents opinions from such “journalists” as CNN’s Jake Tapper and a considerable number of left-leaning commentators.

The professor, Dr. Bandy X. Lee, served as editor of a book titled, “The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump” published last year.  Lee reportedly met with “more than a dozen” members of Congress, all Democrats except for one Republican senator, according to Politico.

As part of her observations, Lee additionally claimed that “Trump’s mental health might lead to the extinction of the human species” in a reference to Trump’s having tweeted about North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un, “Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!”

On Friday, in a follow-on to Politico’s story, CNN reported that “Lee’s public comments are highly unusual given protocols from medical professional organizations — including the 37,000-member American Psychiatric Association — banning psychiatrists from diagnosing patients without a formal examination.”

In response to Stelter’s commentary, The Post & Email tweeted:

Our tweet referenced the 5+-year investigation carried out by former detective Mike Zullo under the auspices of the Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff’s Office (MCSO) which concluded early on that the “long-form” birth certificate image posted on the White House website bearing the name “Barack Hussein Obama II” is a “computer-generated forgery.”

The investigation also found that Obama’s purported Selective Service registration form is fraudulent.

The media, as if in lockstep, refused to take Zullo’s reports seriously, including after he gave a final press conference in December 2016 in which he revealed that two forensic analysts approaching their examination of the image from different disciplines agreed that it cannot have emanated from a real, paper document.

Both political commentators and “journalists” have attempted to marginalize anyone who has questioned Obama’s birthplace, which is considered key to whether or not he is a “natural born Citizen,” as the Constitution requires of the president and commander-in-chief.

The fact that Obama claims a father who was never a U.S. citizen has been considered by many legal scholars to be disqualifying in and of itself.

Ironically, Trump was the first public figure to demand that the Obama White House release his “long-form” birth certificate in response to credible news reports that Obama was born in Kenya, for which Trump was rewarded by the media with the moniker, “leader of the birthers.”

In recent weeks, Zullo has been releasing more information gleaned from the investigation which has clearly made Obama sycophants “uncomfortable.”

 

 

Sharon Rondeau has operated The Post & Email since April 2010, focusing on the Obama birth certificate investigation and other government corruption news.  She has reported prolifically on constitutional violations within Tennessee’s prison and judicial systems.

16 Responses to "Obama’s Eligibility vs. Trump’s “Fitness”"

  1. thinkwell   Monday, January 8, 2018 at 5:44 PM

    Hello Mrs. Rondeau,

    If my posts have waylaid the discussion from aka obama’s criminal identity fraud in favor of the Constitutional meaning of natural born Citizen, it was unintentional as aka obama likely falls short in both categories, so both are equally of interest with regard to aka obama’s blatant ineligibility.

    However, in today’s political scene there are many other potential presidential contenders who are not identity frauds, but who are of questionable eligibility depending on the Constitutional meaning of natural born Citizen. Thus, this second question is perhaps of more general interest to the future preservation of the nation. Those in this last category that come immediately to mind are: Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Kamala Harris, Jennifer Granholm, Tammy Duckworth, and probably Susana Martinez and Brian Sandoval.

  2. Sharon Rondeau   Monday, January 8, 2018 at 3:59 PM

    It’s interesting that the discussion changed from a PDF forgery of a then-sitting president’s birth certificate to “natural born Citizen.” The subject of the Arpaio/Zullo investigation was never whether or not Obama is a “natural born Citizen,” but rather, if his “government” documents were created “with the intent to deceive.”

  3. thinkwell   Monday, January 8, 2018 at 12:20 PM

    Mr. Brolin,

    Please first directly and fully answer all of the three clear questions put to you and then I will be happy to discuss James Madison.

    Jus Sanguinis (citizenship by blood).is generally considered a much stronger factor in natural allegiance than is Jus Soli (citizenship by dirt) for it is actually by, with and among whom one is raised rather than where one is born that shapes natural allegiance. This is supported by the fact that only 17 percent of the world’s countries even confer citizenship (let alone natural born Citizenship) through Jus Soli alone. And only two “first world” countries are foolish enough to do this, the USA and Canada.

    By the way, you have conflated general citizenship and native born citizenship with the very specific Constitutional term natural born Citizen. Please only provide cites that specifically include and address this exact language or the specific concept of presidential eligibility (everything else is just meaningless hand waving).

  4. James Brolin   Monday, January 8, 2018 at 8:16 AM

    My thanks to Ms Rondeau for the clarification and correction, ones preference in endeavour is to stay within the bounds of the topics posted to preclude any potential murmurings or accusations of obfuscation or spreading “propaganda” per-se.

  5. Sharon Rondeau   Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:38 AM

    The Post & Email does not “rein in” anyone who happens to explore other avenues of inquiry. However, as stated clearly in Sunday’s lead article, anyone posting propaganda will be and has been banned.

  6. James Brolin   Monday, January 8, 2018 at 4:25 AM

    With regard to the poster who appears to be of the view that any response of mine would be dishonest.

    With all due deference to the owner of this site, the T’s and C’s state

    “Please make a general comment about the article you’ve read or a related item, but do not address your comment back to another individual with whom you do not agree”

    One would trust that said individual made their comment in innocent error and will of course refrain from repetition of same.

    Now to return to the meat, as it were.

    The querying poster appears to have conflated two wholly different items and issues, the first being the Obama NBC status and a vastly different issue around the universe of US citizenship status and regulation.

    As stated in my previous post, my perplexity comes from concerns around the discourse of the Obama modelling of NBC status, where, based on generally although it appears not universally accepted facts, Obama was born, in the state of Hawai’i, to his mother Stanley Ann (an undisputed US citizen and NBC), father being B Obama Sr (an undisputed non citizen of the US).

    I provided counterpoint and support for the Obama NBC status based on Originalist statements from a Founder.

    If, of course, the poster has similar Founding Father and Originalist statements to add in opposition, I would be happy to continue in this vein.

    I would of course, by preference, rebut, if applicable, with Supreme Court rulings in this vein, some of which, around the period of the Chinese Exclusion Act in the 1880’s rebut quite vigorously the posters personal views on the matter.

    To whit, whether birth on the soil, irrespective of parent citizenship, makes an individual not simply a citizen but inherently “natural” or “native” born and ergo NBC

    The individual responding has however meandered off onto the wholly unrelated general topic of citizenship via statute and NBC status thereof.

    I could of course chat around the discussion being a superset, sub set, topic or sub topic but feel it would add little but smoke, not substance.

    Now, there is a most interesting set of discussions and arguments that could be held around this, the most immediate and relevant potentially being related to the ex candidate for the Republican nomination, Mr Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz.

    Now, this would be a most intriguing issue if he or someone similar should run.

    It is however, I imagine, off topic for this thread and the site owner would, quite rightly, rein us in if we spiralled off in some uncontrolled manner .

    I wait with keen anticipation for the posters factual Constitutional and Supreme Court ruling
    rebuttal.

  7. Jeffrey Harrison   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 8:24 PM

    P.S. I apologize, I can’t type well, fingers mess up…

    Here are hopefully the corrected addresses to the noted articles

    canadafreepress.com/article/a-year-of-spectacular-accomplishments-for-president-trump

    canadafreepress.com/print_friendly/trumps-unnoticed-great-first-year-accomplishment

  8. Jeffrey Harrison   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 7:53 PM

    TRUMPS FITNESS VS. OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY? REALLY? NOT EVEN CLOSE!

    Obama’s eligibility N/A, no true or verified documents submitted. Highly probable fradulent
    utilized SSN , submitted /backdated / fraudulent Selective Service Form, No hard paper
    Birth Certificate Submitted… All records sealed. Most transparent President ever?

    TRUMPS ACCOMPLISHMENTS

    Big List of 173 Trump accomplishments in 353 days
    http://www.wnd.com/2017/11/4621979/print/

    A Year of Spectacular Accomplishments for President Trump
    canadafreepress.com/article/a-year-of-Spectacular-accomplishment-for-President-trump

    Trumps Unnoticed Great First Year Accomplishments
    canadafreepress.com/article/trumps-unnoticed-great-first-year-accomplishment

    Indeed, Trump Thumps and Trumps Obama’s Eligibility

    P.S. Are we tired of “winning” yet? Never!

  9. thinkwell   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 6:53 PM

    Mr. Brolin,

    What, in your opinion, is the difference between a mere born citizen and a natural born Citizen?

    Why did the founders require that our presidents be natural born Citizens rather than mere born citizens or naturalized citizens?

    Many, perhaps most, countries do not recognize as even plain citizens anyone born on their soil of alien parents. In light of this fact, and of the fact that place of birth means nothing to these type of children compared to their daily interaction with their (in the case in question, alien to the USA) parents, how can you claim that children raised by aliens are the same (allegiance and loyalty-wise) as children born in the USA to USA citizen parents. Such an ideal is patently ludicrous and thus your logic falls on its face.

    I don’t expect you to honestly answer these questions, because it is clear that natural born Citizens are the only type of citizen possible in a society without immigration and the only type of citizen in any society that can self-perpetuate without change generation after generation (i.e., born in-country to citizen parents). In other words, you are an anti-Constitutional propagandist and a very ineffectual one at that.

  10. James Brolin   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 4:59 PM

    I admit to a not inconsiderable degree of perplexity when some individuals posit that native birth on the native soil of the United States does not confer NBC status.

    If, as these individuals state, the Constitution was written in simple words for all to understand then surely when one of the Framers states birth and allegiance on the soil alone is not only one of but the primary definer, then the definition is settled.

    Specifically James Madison, The Founders’ Constitution Volume 2, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2, Document 6 (1789)

    “It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.”

    About as Originalist as you can possibly get I think you would agree.

  11. Jeffrey Harrison   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 3:13 PM

    Trump is fine and I am sure he sleeps like a baby. This fitness thing isn’t (even) a warn speed bump (to him). The leftist are always in a twisted, mean, vicious, snarling, snapping, demeanor. Debating with them (of facts and evidence) is usually pointless and a waste of time and energy. They abide by the Rules for Radicals. Evidence and truth be dammed. Also, the Left media is likewise (truth be dammed, anything goes, facts don’t matter).

    Trump’s life was vetted and verified while Obama’s existence is yet to be verified. It is ironic
    Trump’s mental condition is being questioned when he is taking down Obama’s accomplishments “brick by brick”. A couple of days ago WND did a large list of Trump’s
    accomplishments and Canada Free Press did A Year of Spectacular Accomplishments for
    President Trump (7pgs./fine print) and Trump’s Unnoticed Great First Year Accomplishments
    (2 pgs./fine print)

    Trump by far has his head on straight and is well on his way in fulfilling his promises to
    Make America Great Again. In fact, he will Make America The Greatest.

  12. David Farrar   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:23 PM

    An Art. II, § I, Cl. 5 natural born citizen has always been a person born exclusively under U.S. sovereignty, with no other foreign allegiances or attachments at birth. This is exactly what one would expect if the founders and framers of the U.S. Constitution intended to combine the offices of the presidency (an elected office) and the office of the Commander in Chief of the nation’s armed forces ( an appointed position).
    If we abandon the natural born citizenship clause now, it will be exploited by others who may not share his political convictions, and expose us all to the greatest threat to the Republic the founders and framers of the US Const., knew well, feared most, and warned us all against: the loss of our freedoms and liberties not from an external military threat but from political subversion from within our own political system.
    When you stop and realize virtually all executive power in this country is held by one person as the Commander in Chief, and also take into account the vast increase in speed and destructive firepower modern weapons now have over their 18th Century counterparts, you begin to realize just how important this requirement has become in today’s turbulently shrinking world, and how important it is to apply the narrowest of definitions to the “natural born citizen” requirement rather than standing on the threshold of abandoning it altogether — forever.
    There is no absolute, fail-safe, clause or provision that will protect the Republic from just such a fate, but if we weaken this provision now, that fate will come sooner rather than later, and future generations of Americans will look back at this time and call out our names, giving us the blame.

  13. thinkwell   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM

    Mrs. Rondeau,

    Happy New Year to you and your family and thank you for continuing to shine the spotlight of truth on the shamefully complicit, anti-American mainstream media.

    Aka obama clearly is an unindicted criminal identity fraud, but even if his transparently fraudulent nativity story were true, he still trashed the Constitution’s eligibility clause by becoming our putative president. Yes, he claims to have been born in the USA to a citizen mother, but his father of “record” was an alien when he was born.

    The Constitution (which was written to be understood by ordinary citizens) requires that our country’s chief executive office holders be not just mere born citizens, but be natural born Citizens, a distinction with a clear difference since the founders obviously were not in the habit of inserting meaningless, superfluous words into key phrases of the Constitution.

    At best, aka obama may be a statutory born citizen (since a law or statute was required to grant his supposed citizenship at birth). A true natural born Citizen is inherently a citizen by nature rather than by statute. When one is born in-country to two citizen parents, one is naturally a citizen because no other outcome is possible and thus no citizenship law is required.

    Aka obama is a usurper and an unindicted criminal identity fraud, but the Constitution is just paper if We the People are not willing to enforce it. May the rule of law put him in prison (or, more likely, up against the wall) where he so righteously and justly belongs.

  14. Three-Pound Sledge   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    If the topic of this article is mental health, then the following entry, while gently touching on birth certificate fraud and abuse, should hopefully fall under that category.:

    I question the mental health of all those, but predominantly Democratic-following individuals, who claim that there are more than two genders or that a person can change their gender at will, any time after birth?

    It’s time for competent medical authorities to publicly acknowledge scientific evidence that gender is determined at conception and that only two genders exist, female and male. Then there needs to be a concerted judicial effort to prosecute all those people that attempt to present themselves contrary to or change their at-birth certification of gender listed on their birth certificate after mutilating their bodies and calling themselves a transgender.

    Transgender is a term that only exists through the voluntary mutilation of one’s body by a pact between the surgeon and the patient and it is only reinforced in the minds of questionable persons.

    Transgenderism and multiple gender assignments contrary to God’s design are effectively destroying this country from within, through needless tax burdens and especially when these individuals are allowed to enlist or be commissioned into the U.S. military ranks.

  15. Rattlerjake   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:44 AM

    There is NO health problem worst than a leftist mentality. The worst thing that happened was when insane asylums were closed and leftists turned loose.

  16. James Carter   Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 9:38 AM

    Sharon Rondeau wrote:
    “Both political commentators and “journalists” have attempted to marginalize anyone who has questioned Obama’s birthplace, which is considered key to whether or not he is a “natural born Citizen,” as the Constitution requires of the president and commander-in-chief.”

    Political commentators, “journalists”, members of Congress, Obots and (P)resident Obama himself ridiculed anyone who questioned Obama’s eligibility — ridicule being Rule # 5 among Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.“ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.”

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