Zullo: “Pandora’s Box” Would be Opened if Obama Birth Certificate Probed


by Sharon Rondeau

(Jul. 22, 2018) — On Wednesday, Obama birth certificate lead investigator Mike Zullo and former Hawaii resident and author Miki Booth were guests on the “Patriots Soapbox” broadcast, which runs continuously, seven days a week.

For those who could not listen live, a podcast is available here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9V-GpT6ays

Unfortunately, the podcast contains numerous skips such that much of what Zullo shared with the audience was interrupted, leaving listeners to guess at some of his words unless they were very familiar with the subject matter.

In August 2011, under the authority of then-Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio, Zullo was tasked with conducting a preliminary probe of the “long-form” birth certificate image posted at whitehouse.gov on April 27 of that year which some experts had deemed a forgery. Expecting to quickly “clear” the image for authenticity, after several days of examination in concert with other members of the then-“Cold Case Posse,” Zullo was forced to inform Arpaio that the image was fraught with problems.

The investigation therefore continued for more than five years, with the FBI, Congress and the mainstream media largely ignoring Zullo’s conclusions announced at three successive press conferences that the birth certificate image constitutes a “computer-generated forgery.”

On Wednesday, Patriots Soapbox hosts provided Zullo an open platform, during which he related how the investigation began, its length, its findings, and the mainstream media’s responses. The skipping in the recording proved troublesome until shortly after the 37-minute mark, at which time Zullo’s narrative came through much more clearly.

Just before that point, Zullo told the audience that the investigation showed that the long-form image is “manufactured evidence to support a narrative.” Obama claims a birth on August 4, 1961 at the Kapiolani Women & Children’s Medical Center in Honolulu, HI, a claim the hospital has not been willing to confirm.

Referring to the PDF uploaded to the White House website, Zullo said that it represents a “manufactured evidence to support a narrative” and “a fabrication” based upon his discovery that at least nine items from an original, paper Hawaii birth certificate were duplicated and placed onto the Obama birth certificate image at precisely the same respective angles present in the original.

For those not aware, Zullo recounted that those specific findings had been shared in a video as part of the third and final press conference he gave on the investigation on December 15, 2016.

“It is impossible to have the same corresponding date stamp and the same corresponding box number on the certificate and they both have the same corresponding angles,” Zullo said at 37:48 of the source document and the Obama long-form image.

His references to “Reed Hayes” and “Forlab” referred to two court-certified forensic document examiners working in different disciplines, each of whom conducted an independent analysis of the Obama long-form image and reached conclusions similar to Zullo’s own.

At 38:50, the audio improves measurably.

At 39:07, Zullo said, “The Ah’Nee document is an authentic Hawaii birth certificate; it has the state seal clearly visible; it is stamped with the statye registrar stamp; it is a real birth certificate acquired in 1991; she was born in 1961, same month as Obama, purportedly, but it was acquired in 1991 and those things match perfectly, and that’s impossible.”

Zullo then described how he was deposed and later grilled in open court about his oversight of a former NSA/CIA contractor, Dennis Montgomery, who became a confidential informant to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in early 2014.

Montgomery had reportedly approached Arpaio with the claim that more than 150,000 of his constituents’ bank accounts had been breached by a government entity. Later, Montgomery claimed to have more than 600 million pages of evidence demonstrating that an untold number of American citizens had been objects of government surveillance to include then-businessman Donald Trump and some of his employees, Infowars host Alex Jones, 156 federal judges, and even Zullo himself without a warrant or their knowledge.

Two of those said to have been surveilled are U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Chief Justice John G. Roberts.

Zullo said that the Justice Department was “setting him up” with a potential “espionage” charge, prompting him to initially invoke the Fifth Amendment during depositions.

Mentioning former Director of National intelligence James Clapper and former CIA Director John Brennan, Zullo said, “When I see these things going on today, I know they’re true,” Zullo said, based on the documentation he received from Montgomery.

At 42:45, Zullo remarked, “I just have this gut feeling that something is going to break in this. I think that the activities that are going on go right back to the foundational lie of the presidency of the United States under Barack Obama.  I don’t believe Barack Obama could have legitimately run because of this birth issue.  I believe that’s why this was manufactured…”

He posited that if “people” will lie to Americans about a presidential candidate’s eligibility, “they’re capable of doing anything, and I think you’re seeing that manifest now.”

At 43:44, Zullo said, “If they would ever truly investigate this document, this is going to unearth Pandora’s Box like no one has ever seen, because that document is fraudulent, and there’s no way around it.  There has never been a forensic document examiner to refute us, because they can’t.  They can’t do it.”

Zullo said that as it was done once, it can happen again.  He mentioned that “the Obama regime still talks about it,” specifically referring to Obama communications director Dan Pfeiffer’s new book which contains a chapter devoted to the release of the “birth certificate.” (45:24)

“This is cover-up on top of cover-up,” Zullo said (45:40), involving the “harvesting of information: and the “three-letter agencies using it against the American people.”

He said that had Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election, the public might never have known about the surveillance.

At 46:24, “Freedom Friday” host, pastor and author Carl Gallups joined the interview, providing the history of his media work and how he became involved in reporting on Zullo’s investigation.

Gallups then recounted that it was Donald Trump who first brought the “birth certificate” question into the public arena early in 2011 while considering a run for the presidency himself.

Gallups, too, equated the U.S. intelligence community with “the Deep State,” invoking former FBI counsel Lisa Page and “the DOJ.”  “I could see it…the Deep State was going out of their minds with fear because the light switch was getting ready to be turned on; the darkness of all of this was perhaps getting ready to be exposed…” (55:36)

He confirmed that Montgomery had informed Zullo that “our own intelligence services” were able to breach state election data “and manipulate elections” “and that it could be made to look like a foreign entity did it” using software Montgomery invented.

10 Responses to "Zullo: “Pandora’s Box” Would be Opened if Obama Birth Certificate Probed"

  1. George Fancy   Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 12:45 PM

    Not sure what to make of this.

    Was Trump in on it?


  2. Charles D Kowalski   Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 9:46 AM

    If ever a special council should be formed, it should be to unseal Obama’s records and expose him for the fraud that he is. He continues to “milk” this country while he and Michelle at us and do whatever they can to perpetuate their communist tactics to overthrow President Trump and our country.

  3. scott e.   Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 11:49 AM

    this isn’t over for me. the birther story will be featured on obama101.com, when i get back behind my desk. thanks sharon, and mikes, zullo and volin… i want to tangle with the obots again. the road to closure lies in that video showing lifted birth certificate parts. and of course savannah gutherie, whom i believe was unknowingly patsied.
    we’ll get there eventually, and it will be glorious. scott e. @washamericom

  4. Bobbie Blalack   Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 12:07 AM

    We pay members of congress to do a job and once again they’ve let us down…Where is this going to lead us once everyone finds out he was not a citizen…He took whatever money he could get his hands on and even helped our enemies….There is no telling what lies ahead and what he’s done to us….Constitutional or not, those people should be run off from the WH & to never step foot on ‘We the People’s’ property….I’d like to see Trump accompanied by the military, escort each and everyone involved in this corruption….I think there’s grounds for separation & it’s called treason!! Get them out of there & tomorrow isn’t soon enough….

  5. Tom Arnold   Monday, July 23, 2018 at 3:37 PM

    Sharon- what in God’s name was Zullo’s explanation five years ago? I’m sure I’ve heard about it or seen it somewhere before, but I obviously was not impressed and likely still will not be impressed. Anyway, sincere thanks for all you do. Tom Arnold.

  6. Leonard Daneman   Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 11:24 PM

    The only fake document, among many, is that whitehouse.gov document deconstructed in the website at https://paraleaglenm.wordpress.com/2016/12/25/dr-orly-taitz-vindicated/
    Candidate John McCain should have known Obama’s birthplace was not the determinative issue concerning natural born citizenship, as his birth in Colon, Panama was investigated by a Joint Senate Commission (SR511) that reported the fact his father was a U.S. citizen made McCain Article II eligible.
    And there is the key issue; Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen, and not until the misbegotten 1898 Wong Kim Ark case would Obama have citizenship at all. If born in Kenya, as three of Obama’s birth documents suggest, it was only under 1950 statutes that he got ‘citizenship at birth.’

  7. Bob68   Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 9:03 PM

    I have been saying for a long time in many post, here and elsewhere. It is the fear of President Trump revealing and acting on the truth about Barry that drove the Deep State over the edge when Trump was elected president in 2016, instead of the planned and promised in 2008, continued after Obama cover-up of Hillary Clinton. It was obvious in January, 2009, when Congress allowed an ineligible, identity fraud con-artist to be sworn in as the putative president that they must protect Barry’s fake legitimacy forever, to protect themselves. This is why no efforts to reveal the truth about Obama were ever going to be successful while he was pretending to be president. Congress gave America’s government and her military to the enemy, and they violated their sworn oath to protect the Constitution…all of them. We do now have a handful of members of Congress who seem to be willing to go where ever necessary get to the bottom of The Obama Fraud. Let’s hope this all comes out, and soon, because there are no consequences of the truth which will be worse than continued Deep State control and losing America….forever.

  8. Paula   Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 6:29 PM

    Finally, usurper-obummer admits in public on video that he was born in Kenya, although he says it while in Kenya:

    Obama says in speech in Kenya (about 5:50 in video) that, “Now three years ago I visited Kenya as the first sitting American President to come from Kenya.”


    Obama’s speech at the launch of Sauti Kuu Foundation in Kogelo #ObamaInKenya
    Kenya CitizenTV
    Published on Jul 16, 2018

  9. Sharon Rondeau   Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 3:58 PM

    Mike Zullo has explained why he was not able to release the information he had in late 2013, as he had expected to do.

  10. Tom Arnold   Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 2:52 PM

    Zullo and Gallups should have told the American people what their advertised so-called “UNIVERSE-SHATTERING” findings about Obama were- A LONG TIME AGO. Why is it that they allowed us to suffer through years of government corruption, societal unrest, and constitutional crises? My guess is that our democratic republic will never be the same again. It looks like things are going to get even worse. AMERICA HAS BEEN LIVING A LIE. The conspiracy of silence is alive and well.

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