Does NBC’s Ron Allen Have a Paper Copy of Obama’s Purported Birth Certificate?

ASKED TRUMP TO LOOK AT PAPER IN HIS HAND…WHAT WAS IT, AND WHERE IS IT?

by Sharon Rondeau

Why has the mainstream media not reported that the above image is a declared forgery by a criminal investigation?

(Feb. 11, 2015) — In a report dated February 10, 2015, Alan Jones of 1776 Channel reported that Savannah Guthrie is considered most likely to assume the anchoring of the NBC Nightly News following the suspension of Brian Williams announced by the station on Tuesday evening.

As noted by Jones, Guthrie claims to have obtained a paper copy of the image posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 purported to be a scan of a certified copy of Barack Hussein Obama’s original birth certificate from Hawaii, released after businessman Donald Trump raised doubts that Obama was born in the country and therefore perhaps ineligible to serve as president.

At the time, Obama was seeking a second term, and Trump was considering declaring himself a presidential candidate for 2012.

Jones embedded a video of a press conference Obama held the morning of the release which NBC broadcasted depicting Guthrie making the claim that she had “seen” and “felt” a paper copy of the image, alleging that it contained a raised seal.

In September 2011, a criminal investigation was launched into the authenticity of the birth certificate image after 250 Tea Party members petitioned their sheriff, Joe Arpaio, for assurance that their votes would not be disenfranchised in the upcoming presidential election.  Arpaio agreed to delegate his Cold Case Posse to conduct an initial probe which he believed would quickly “clear the president.”

On March 1, 2012, Arpaio and Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo stated in a formal press conference that the image, along with Obama’s purported Selective Service registration form, is a “computer-generated forgery.”

The mainstream media was silent on the posse’s findings other than internet coverage.  After a second presser on July 17, 2012, during which Arpaio and Zullo said that the forgery of the birth certificate surpassed the standard of probable cause, some in the media became argumentative and attempted to attack the messengers rather than to report the findings or launch their own investigations in response.

During NBC’s April 27, 2011 broadcast, Williams opened the news segment by claiming that there were individuals who remembered “seeing him [Obama] as a baby in the nursery in the hospital.”

No hospital in the world has confirmed itself as Obama’s birthplace.  While Obama claims he was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children, spokesmen for the hospital have refused to confirm it, including to The Post & Email.

According to a Politifact article published on April 27, 2011, an alleged Hawaii resident, Monika Danielson, told CNN that “she was in the hospital at the same time as Obama’s mother and saw him in the nursery.”  The CNN report showed the short-form birth certificate and an alleged paper version of the short-form certificate noted to have come from Factcheck.org.

Politifact’s posting of the long-form birth certificate does not appear to contain a raised seal, an item which also appeared to have been missing from the short-form birth certificate posted on June 12, 2008 at The Daily KOS.  In NBC’s April 27, 2011 report, Guthrie said that the White House “released” the short-form image in 2008 “on the internet,” but she did not specify where.  Prior to April 27, 2011, the White House did not display the short-form image, although it can be found there presently in a different color scheme than at The Daily KOS.

During an April 8, 2011 meeting at his office in New York, Trump had told citizen researcher Jeff Lichter and several others that he predicted that a forgery of a detailed birth certificate would be released by the White House as a result of the high visibility he had given the issue.

In what was described as a two-part series just before the release of the long-form birth certificate, former HDOH director Dr. Chiyome Fukino asserted to CNN’s Gary Tuchmann that Obama was “absolutely” born in Hawaii based on her alleged inspection of his original certificate held in a “vault.”

Sixteen days before the long-form image was released, Fukino had provided an interview to NBC News in which she said that Obama’s original birth certificate was “located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health.”  She additionally described the document as “half typed and half handwritten,” but the image released by the White House does not match that description.

HotAir claimed that an unnamed woman “remembers seeing a black infant next to him in the hospital nursery and assumes it was little Barack given how small the state’s black population was at the time.”  HotAir and other “conservative” websites have also refused to report on the Cold Case Posse’s findings and have ridiculed anyone doubting that Obama was born in Hawaii.

A lead-in to what appears to be Part 1 of the CNN interview is posted on a White House blog.  The Post & Email has not been able to locate Part 2 of the series.

In a text version of the CNN report, Monika Danielson, whose picture is not shown and who does not appear in the video in Part 1, is reported to be the mother of Stig Waidelich, who appeared in the video obtaining a copy of his short-form birth certificate from the HDOH in the company of Tuchmann.  Danielson is quoted as having told CNN that “she believes that baby she spotted was indeed President Obama,” referring to a dark-skinned child of whom she had reportedly not seen many based on her origins in Sweden.

The four-minute NBC clip begins with Williams stating that there were individuals who knew Obama’s alleged mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, when she was pregnant and that there was more than one person who remembered Obama in the nursery at the hospital.  During the video, Guthrie stated that NBC reporter Ron Allen had attempted to show the document to Trump after Trump held a press conference acknowledging the White House’s release of the image online.  The NBC video described and showed a reporter asking Trump “three times” to inspect the document, with Trump not responding, continuing his swift walk accompanied by a throng of people to an unknown destination.

Mike Zullo speaking during the March 1, 2012 press conference

The Cold Case Posse’s investigation has continued, with a second criminal investigation launched by Arpaio independently at an unannounced time.  It was expected last March that Arpaio and Zullo would hold a third and perhaps fourth press conference on new findings from both investigations, but new discoveries reportedly delayed those plans.

On Tuesday, Zullo confirmed to Jones that “We have no evidence of a raised seal being displayed on that document that Savannah Guthrie supposedly felt. We don’t know what she felt. No evidence that we can determine shows alterations to that paper body indicating a raised seal. Their work flow is a scan of the document. Upon examination there is no evidence of raised seal. We have seen examples of other Hawaii documents with raised seals clearly displayed. According to former White House attorney Bob Bauer, Obama never even handled it, but Savannah Guthrie did.”

On Wednesday afternoon, The Post & Email sent the following message to NBC News through its contact email address, mediainquiries@msnbc.com:

MEDIA REQUEST TO REPORTER RON ALLEN

To Mr. Ron Allen, NBC Reporter:

I note that you were present at a press conference given by Donald Trump on April 27, 2011, the day the long-form birth certificate image bearing Obama’s name was released on the White House website, and reportedly, to Savannah Guthrie and you.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/42789377#42789377

As Guthrie narrated, the video clip shows that you attempted to have Trump inspect the paper you held, but either Trump did not hear you or he ignored you as he continued to walk within a throng of people.

Do you still have the paper copy of the document?  Would you be willing to say how you obtained it and whether or not it has a raised seal?

Are you aware that a law enforcement investigation begun in September 2011 which is ongoing today has declared the image a “computer-generated forgery,” along with Obama’s purported Selective Service registration form?

http://mcsoccp.org/joomla/

If NBC televised the release of the image, why did it not do the same when two press conferences, held on March 1, 2012 and July 17, 2012, respectively, by a law enforcement investigation, declared that the birth certificate and Selective Service registration form are “computer-generated forgeries?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8muZ1Pe9OAo&index=2&list=PL3BED16D5F789C1B3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alVzyfptF80

Given that Williams has been suspended for untruths apparently told since at least 2003, is there any reason why his statements in the video should not be verified?  For example, he claimed that more than one person remembered Obama in the nursery at Kapiolani Hospital, but those individuals have never gone on camera to state their recollections.

Williams also said that people had related that they knew Ann Dunham during her pregnancy.  Who are those individuals?

Thank you very much.

Sharon Rondeau, Editor
The Post & Email
www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT  06076
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2 Responses to "Does NBC’s Ron Allen Have a Paper Copy of Obama’s Purported Birth Certificate?"

  1. slcraig   Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    The Ratification of the COTUS “made” U.S. Citizens of all the existing State Citizens, and no others; (see Scott v, Minor v, US v Villatto, Talbot v Janson, Collet v Collet).

    The COTUS at A1S8C4 & A2S1C5 requires that “an uniform Rule” binds ALL U.S. Citizens.

    The 1790 Act which DECLARES to establish an uniform Rule of (U.S. Citizenship{implicit}) naturalization provides for the residual effect of acquiring of U.S. Citizenship as being; …

    ” … Once a person is a U.S. Citizen, then so too are their children, at birth or otherwise … ”

    When the doctrine of coverture is taken into account in regard to the political character status of women / wives / mothers it is found that ALL children born to the wife of a U.S. Citizen father were born as or considered as U.S. natural born Citizens anywhere in the world between March of 1790 and January 1795 when the “place” of birth of a U.S. natural born Citizen became limited to within the limits of the U.S..

    The 1922 Cable Act, aka, the Women’s Independent Citizenship Act abrogated the doctrine of coverture and introduced the circumstance of “dual-citizens at birth”, a circumstance that theretofore was not possible (i.e., not legally recognized), under the U.S. Laws.

    Insofar as U.S. Citizenship is concerned the history of U.S. Citizenship began with the Ratification of the COTUS.

    It IS really that simple.

  2. Stephen Hiller   Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM

    Don’t expect any reply except for a form letter … if even that.

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