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“WE’RE GOING THERE ON A MISSION”
by Sharon Rondeau
(Mar. 8, 2013) — Pastor Carl Gallups, the well-known voice and co-producer of the PPSimmons YouTube channel, author, ordained minister and weekly radio show host, gave an exclusive interview to The Post & Email on Friday morning regarding his trip to Washington, DC next week to attend the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC).
CPAC is sponsored by the American Conservative Union (ACU) and this year will feature such guests as former Alaska Gov. and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, ACU Chairman Al Cardenas, several members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, including former vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan. and Dr. Benjamin Carson, who has made news headlines since he spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast on February 7.
Gallups told us that he has been performing his own research into the Obama eligibility/identity question for six years. He will be attending the conference at the invitation of the Cold Case Posse, which has been investigating Obama’s documentation on a law enforcement level for the past 18 months. The Posse gave two press conferences last year, first declaring on March 1 that there was probable cause to believe that Obama’s long-form birth certificate and Selective Service registration form were “computer-generated forgeries.” At the second press conference on July 17, lead investigator Michael Zullo and Sheriff Joe Arpaio stated that the hurdle of probable cause had been overcome in regard to the birth certificate and that it was “definitely fraudulent.” Of the birth certificate, Zullo had told those in attendance at that time, “That’s a falsified document.”
PPSimmons released a video in mid-January stating that the investigation was ongoing and that those involved were not going to “give up.”
The Post & Email asked when Gallups received the invitation, to which he said, “A couple of weeks ago.”
THE POST & EMAIL: Did it come as a surprise to you?
PASTOR GALLUPS: Yes, the invitation certainly did.
THE POST & EMAIL: Do you know if you have definite meetings scheduled with congressmen?
PASTOR GALLUPS: In Washington and with politics, nothing is definite, but we have been informed that there is a congressman who will be meeting with us, and he is working on securing the presence of other congressmen. We have been informed that there might be an attorney general there as well. That’s where we will begin, and we hope to build upon that, to network and gain the ear of other VIPs. By “VIPs,” I mean people who can do something about this: attorneys general, senators, representatives, major media people, etc.
THE POST & EMAIL: Do you get the feeling that Congress is starting to believe that there is a problem with Obama’s identification documents?
PASTOR GALLUPS: I get the feeling that there are some in Congress who are, yes. We’ve had some initiated contact from a few people in Congress who are beginning to smell that something is wrong with this whole scenario. I think that fire was probably stoked when one string of constitutional travesties after finally another piled on top of each other. I think it finally came to a head during the budget crisis, the call for Second Amendment repeal, the drone war situation, the buying-up of ammo by the Department of Homeland Security…I think finally some congressmen are beginning to see that this is no “ordinary president,” that there’s something strange about this guy.
THE POST & EMAIL: It is now public that authorities have brought Osama bin Laden’s son-in-law to stand trial in a civilian court, not to Guantanamo Bay for a military tribunal, although members of Congress were not told in advance.
PASTOR GALLUPS: Our leaders just confirmed John Brennan as CIA chief. A converted Muslim will now have access to all of our nation’s secrets. So people are beginning to raise their eyebrows, but they may be a day late and a dollar short. I hope they’re not too late; otherwise, I wouldn’t be spending my time making one last valiant effort here. But it is very disconcerting to me. I’ve been screaming and shouting this information for six years: newspaper, radio, internet, in radio interviews coast-to-coast, and it’s taken all this time for a handful of congressmen to finally begin to raise their eyebrows.
THE POST & EMAIL: And it wasn’t necessarily after the long-form birth certificate image, which we are sure is a forgery, was posted. It took all of these other things to occur, including violations of federal law.
PASTOR GALLUPS: Yes. So our goal in this quest – we’re not going there to sightsee; we’re not going there to glad-hand and watch a few speeches; we’re not going there to be enamored by the VIPs there. We’re going there on a mission, to network and try to make contact…if we can find one senator or one representative who will commit to us to push this thing forward valiantly, then we will believe that we will have made great progress. One congressman or senator has great power…one person who is not sold out to this can get the ball rolling. If we could get a handful, that will be a blessing, but if we can just get one, we will be happy that at least somebody has done something. Right now, the FBI should be involved; the CIA should be involved in this. There should be congressional hearings left and right on this.
We now have, if you will, the Watergate tapes in our hands. We now have the “blue dress.” We’ve got it – we’ve got 100% proof that somebody in the White House representing the president has committed a felony, fraud and a forgery and has broken federal law. It’s on the white House website right now – the smoking gun. And it’s still smoking. So our mission is to hopefully say to some congressman, “Look! The gun is still smoking; the body is still warm…will you do something about this?”
In all honesty, we’re not going into this naive. I’ve been working on it six years; Lt. Zullo has been working on it for 18 months at the law enforcement level. We’ve both been frustrated beyond description with the lack of attention given to it by the media and VIPs. We also realize that we could walk away without having made a single commitment contact. We’re going to make a lot of contacts, but we could walk away without having a single person committed to that cause. If that happens, I’m going to shake the dust off my feet, go back home, hit my knees and start praying. We may be in the final days of Sodom and Gomorrah. That’s how Rome fell: the Senate just washed its hands and sold its power to the nation of highest bidding.
THE POST & EMAIL: Why do you think Congress has ignored the evidence thus far?
PASTOR GALLUPS: That’s a good question, and the answer is multifaceted.
To my amazement, there are many, many VIPs who know absolutely nothing about it. You have to ask, “Why?” The reason is that a lot of these VIPs are typical busy Americans; they do their job, they abide by the law, they come home and do their studying and reading and turn on the evening news, and then they go to bed and get up and do it again. Well, the evening news has not touched it. So many VIPs who do not cruise around to The Post & Email and WND and CarlGallups.com, so they just don’t know.
Another reason is that a lot of VIPs are simply pushing and promoting the agenda of Obama. They don’t care what the Constitution says. They don’t care whether or not he is a lawful citizen. They like his political agenda and they’re going to promote him. It’s kind-of common sense, but that’s another reason. We have a lot of people whose first line you would think would be to defend our Constitution, but it’s not. Their first line is to defend their political preference, which happens to be Obama.
Another reason is that many VIPs are afraid to deal with the issue. I think that a lot of our congressmen have been culturally emasculated. They’ve been “wimpified,” which is the word I use on the radio. This has been a long process, and the left has done a good job of it. We have a bunch of men in Washington who just aren’t “real men.” I interviewed Dr. Grace Vuoto, the executive director of the Edmund Burke Institute for American Renewal in Washington; I’ve interviewed Jeffrey Kuhner, columnist for The Washington Times and talk show host on WRKO out of Boston; both of these people, independently of each other, have made the same observation. They live in Washington, and they say that it is nauseating; it’s sickening to see the number of men running around with the tag “Senator” or “Representative” who don’t have the guts to do the right thing, ever. They just don’t. They fear for their power, their position, their money, and their benefits. So you have that angle.
Fourthly, you have the angle that some VIPs have been threatened, either directly or indirectly, by government operatives. Lt. Mike Zullo has said that publicly. They supposedly have statements from people who have come forward to their investigation who have said, “Look, we’re not dealing with that because we’ve been threatened.” Arpaio has said that also.
The fifth angle of this, which goes back to being afraid, is that nobody wants to be the agency or the person who was ultimately responsible for bringing down America’s First Black President. It’s the fear of the so-called “black backlash.” Gen. Paul Vallely talked about that for about a year on talk radio; he said that he knew for a fact that the FBI and key congressmen knew that Obama was not a U.S. citizen but they were afraid to do anything about it for fear of black backlash.
So that’s my answer. It’s multifaceted. People say, “Why, why?” Well, those are the reasons, and that’s why. It’s frustrating, because we no longer live in the day when there were three major networks, and most of the time they would pretty-much report the facts. They might have been slanted, but at least they would cover the story. You and I cannot envision that in our childhood days, if a sitting U.S. president had committed felonies, forgeries, crimes and fraud that the media would have ignored it, even a media that supported that president. We could not imagine that, but the days are different now.
THE POST & EMAIL: It wouldn’t have happened 50 years ago.
PASTOR GALLUPS: It wouldn’t have happened 20 years ago.
The Post & Email plans to contact Gallups when he returns from CPAC, which concludes on March 16.