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by Joseph DeMaio, ©2025

Photo: Sharon Rondeau

(Sep. 12, 2025) — Introduction

As the “birthright citizenship” issue strolls its way through the lower federal courts, its related “kissing cousin” issue – the “natural born Citizen” (“nbC”) presidential eligibility restriction – remains on a back burner, simmering in a pot of widespread electorate, academic and media indifference.  Happily, one of the few Internet sites where these issues are not treated so casually is the one you are now visiting: The Post & Email. 

To that point, two recent federal appellate court decisions may play a significant role in again bringing the nbC issue to a front, instead of a back burner, and nationwide and not just at The P&E.  That said, faithful readers, remember: you heard it here first.

Specifically, the June 3, 2025 decision of the Second Circuit in Hadwan v. U.S. Department of State and the August 20, 2025 decision of the Ninth Circuit in Moncada v. Rubio (23-55803.pdf) shed useful light not only on the birthright citizenship issue, but also on the nbC definitional issue. 

While both decisions involved persons who claimed to be 14th Amendment “citizens,” thus implicating the birthright citizen question under the amendment’s “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States” requirement, the language used by the two separate appellate three-judge court panels in each case provides insight into where the judiciary, or at least some of the judiciary, might be headed regarding the definition of who can, and more importantly who cannot properly be declared to be an nbC. 

The cases, while tangentially related, are addressed separately and analyzed below.  Spoiler alert: your humble servant believes the unanimous Moncada opinion is the far better reasoned and thus correct decision while the result-driven Hadwan split (3-2) decision is poorly reasoned and, apart from the dissent, should be reversed and vacated.

Legal Analysis and Discussion

The Moncada Opinion

The Ninth Circuit decision in Moncada has already been well and accurately discussed at The P&E here in a posting by the intrepid P&E Editor and long-time P&E contributor CDR. Charles F. Kerchner, Jr. (RET) at his own website containing a video by one Robert Goveia addressing the case.  In summary, because when Roberto Moncada was born in New York City in 1950 to a father who was the Nicaraguan attaché to the United Nations, he became at that moment cloaked with the same “diplomatic immunity” from the application of U.S. law possessed by his father.

Despite spending some 75 years as a putative U.S. citizen, the Ninth Circuit panel found in 2025 that his immunity rendered him ever since birth not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States.  Thus, his claim to birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment was rejected by both the lower federal District Court and the Ninth Circuit panel.  As a result, his putative status as a “citizen” was voided.  Readers are encouraged to access and read the Rondeau/Kerchner post.

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The critical point to be gleaned from that conclusion, however, is that as noted in the above P&E Rondeau/Kerchner post, in reaching its conclusion, the panel relied upon and specifically quoted Swiss attorney, jurist and publicist Emer de Vattel from his 1758 treatise, “Le Droit des Gens”(1758, Paris) or“The Law of Nations” (1760 London). 

The significance of the panel’s reliance on the de Vattel treatise lies in the fact that many “experts” in academia as well as the federal government reject and disregard de Vattel and his tome as having any materiality, relevance or value with respect to the definition of the term “natural born citizen” found in Book 1, Ch. 19, § 212 (“212”) of his treatise.  There, a “natural born citizen” is clearly defined – not merely categorized – as a person born in a country to parents who are already citizens of that country.  This fact was recognized by the Supreme Court in its Minor v. Happersett decision in 1874.

The panel’s reliance mirrors a recent (2019) similar reference to and acceptance of the authority of de Vattel and his tome by the Supreme Court in California Franchise Tax Board v. Hyatt. Indeed, even more recently (2023), three concurring Justices and one dissenting Justice in Haaland v. Brackeen cited de Vattel in support of their respective positions.  Whether concurring or dissenting, the Justices cited and relied on de Vattel to support their differing opinions. 

However, of perhaps the greatest significance is the very recent (June 20, 2025) Supreme Court decision – discovered by your humble servant while composing this offering – in Fuld v. Palestine Liberation Organization.  In his concurring opinion, Justice Thomas (joined by Justice Gorsuch) not only cites with approval de Vattel and the treatise, he adds this important nugget (concurrence at fn. 1) “[de] Vattel was ‘widely consulted by the constitutional generation in the United States,” and was ‘invariably invoked as authoritative on matters of international law by the likes of Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, James Wilson, Edmund Randolph, Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, Joseph Story and James Kent, among others.’  M. Ramsey, Executive Agreements and the (Non)treaty Power, 77 N. C. L. Rev. 133, 169–170 (1998) (internal quotation marks omitted).” (Emphasis added)

The subject matter of the Hyatt, Haaland and Fuld decisions is immaterial.  On the other hand, that which is both material and relevant is that in the differing views of today’s Supreme Court Justices, de Vattel and his treatise remain both vibrant and authoritative.  Whether relating to taxation (Hyatt), Native Americans (Haaland) or personal jurisdiction under the Antiterrorism Act of 1990 (Fuld), de Vattel and his tome exist in the minds of present-day Justices as authoritative law.  And if that is true for the cited cases and their respective subject matters, there is no rational reason to believe or contend that an identical authoritative import and gravitas should be denied as to an analysis of § 212 and the Founders’ intent in adopting it in the Constitution.

Against this backdrop of contemporary statements from Supreme Court Justices, recall that, as discussed here, the Congressional Research Service (“CRS”) long ago absurdly – not to mention bizarrely – contended (at p. 22) that the Founders could not possibly have relied on de Vattel’s definition in § 212 because, purportedly, no French-to-English translation of the natural born citizen definition existed when the nbC clause was inserted into the Constitution.  This is nonsense elevated to an art form by the purported repository of “the nation’s best thinking.”  If this CRS argument exemplifies the nation’s “best thinking,” the Republic is in deep trouble.

Apart from the easily-discovered fact that an English translation of the treatise was, in fact, printed, published and available in London in 1760, the CRS fatuously ignores the additional fact that many if not most of the delegates to the constitutional convention understood French, that era’s language of diplomacy.

But I digress. 

Again, the Supreme Court’s continued contemporary (2025) citation to and reliance upon de Vattel and his treatise should put an end to the CRS nonsense that the Founders could not possibly have relied on the § 212 definition as the source for the nbC clause.  People who continue to believe that ipse dixit fantasy – including “well-credentialed” lawyers and “expert” academics – need to ingest some highly-caffeinated beverage and get a serious grip on reality.  The Ninth Circuit opinion in the Moncada case, against the SCOTUS decisions in Hyatt, Haaland and Fuld, is clearly a step in the right direction to vindicate that the most likely source for the nbC restriction the Founders actually adopted was § 212.

The Hadwan Opinion

The following discussion and analysis of the Hadwan opinion (139 F.4th 209 [Fourth Circuit 2025]) is included as an example of the manifest and blatant errors of two Democrat Second Circuit judges – (Guido Calabresi [a Clinton appointee] and Myrna Pérez [a Biden appointee]) as a result of their reliance on their concocted ipse dixit (“it is so because I say it is so”) reasoning in arriving at their legally flawed conclusions. 

Factually, Mr. Hadwan had his U.S. passport and “Consular Report of Birth Abroad” (“CRBA”) revoked and forfeited by the U.S. Embassy in Sana’a, Yemen.  Hadwan claimed that he was a U.S. citizen by virtue of being born in Yemen to a Yemini mother and, purportedly, a U.S. citizen father.  When the State Department discovered that his father’s claimed U.S. citizenship was likely fraudulent, the passport and CRBA revocations were triggered.

The opinion begins its tortured and flawed path in its first sentence, claiming via groundless ipse dixit that “Mansoor Hamoud Hadwan is legally a natural-born United States citizen….” (Emphasis added)  There is absolutely zero evidence in the court’s opinion or the record on appeal supporting that assertion.  Indeed, it is judicial ipse dixit wrapped in whole cloth.

Moreover, the entire case on appeal addressed exclusively the procedural and “due process” irregularities Hadwan alleged that the State Department had committed.  Nothing – as in zero – was addressed regarding his claimed “citizenship,” thus preserving the panel’s majority court-concocted misrepresentation of his status as a “natural-born Citizen.”  Again, there is absolutely nothing in the lower District Court record or the Second Circuit appellate record even suggesting, much less establishing, that he was an nbC. 

Accordingly, that assertion in the court’s first sentence is flat wrong…, yet it forms the cornerstone of the opinion’s ultimate conclusion that the State Department violated its own procedural rules, thereby denying Hadwan his due process rights.

In fact, in addressing the State Department’s procedural errors, the court wrongly states (139 F.4th at 215) that “[n]atural-born citizens who are born outside of the United States [sic] may obtain a CRBA as documentation of their citizenship by submitting ‘satisfactory proof of birth, identity and nationality’ to a U.S. consular officer. 22 C.F.R. 50.7(a)” 

Where to start, where to start?  First, if § 212 applies in the Constitution (and your servant posits that it does), a true nbC must be born in the United States, and notoutside of the United States.”  The court’s misstatement might make sense under the reasoning of the Clement/Katyal Harvard Law Review Forum article critiqued here, here and here, but since that article is also wrong on the point, the Second Circuit court’s assertion is wrong too.  Second, the court’s citation to 22 C.F.R. [§] 50.7(a) as supporting its result also badly misses the mark, because as the regulation plainly states – in plain English and not French –: the rule applies only to a “citizen” and not to an nbC.

The Hadwan majority opinion also states (139 F.4th at 216, n. 5): “A person may be a natural-born citizen constitutionally, U.S. Const. amend. XIV, § 1 [sic] or by statute, 8 U.S.C. § 1401(c)–(h). Not all citizenship acquired by statute is naturalization.”  The Hadwan majority panel should have read more closely the decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, (169 U.S. at 702), where the Supreme Court states exactly the opposite.  The Hadwan opinion footnote continues, id.: “And not all citizenship acquired at birth comes from the Constitution and from being born within the territorial boundaries of the United States.  A person born a citizen pursuant to a statute, like Hadwan, is a natural-born citizen [sic].” (Emphasis added).  Once again, this assertion is judicially-concocted ipse dixit, and wrong as well.  And the assertion that the 14th Amendment creates a path to becoming an nbC is laughable, almost but not quite as laughable as the CRS contention that because the Founders purportedly could not understand French, they could not possibly have understood the § 212 definition in the de Vattel treatise.

Finally, the Second Circuit appellate opinion also speculates regarding the U.S. Embassy’s Sana’a actions that: (139 F.4th at 217. n. 8): “It is possible that the Sana’a Embassy denied Hadwan’s requests because he did not squarely fit within this guidance owing to his status as a natural-born citizen whose CRBA had been revoked, instead of a naturalized citizen.” (Emphasis added)  Bizarre, absurd…, and wrong.

Further discussion of the Hadwan appellate decision would be pointless.  It is flat wrong in characterizing Mr. Hadwan as an nbC.  Yet it appears in print as a decision of the Second Circuit.  Accordingly, one can rest assured that, unless reversed by the Supreme Court, the “de Vattel Deniers,” including “well-credentialed lawyers,” will seize upon it as purportedly confirming that anyone who is a “citizen at birth” or a “citizen by birth,” regardless of parental citizenship or global “happenstance” place of birth, is “close enough” for the government work of serving as an eligible nbC president.

No serious student of the nbC issue could honestly believe that theory.  Accordingly, those who do believe in and advance the theory are, respectfully, not serious students of the topic.

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Phantom_II_Phixer
Monday, September 15, 2025 9:01 AM

If the three branches of the US government are so confident that they know what a natural born Citizen (nbC) is, why do they keep forgetting to list the grammatical modifiers “natural” and “born” with the noun “citizen” in their laws that they pass pertaining to naturalization and other ways to obtain citizen status in the U.S.A. since their repeal of the first Naturalization Act (1790)?

Hint #1: One hundred U.S. Senators definitely misled the electorate in 2008 when they passed the Senate Resolution 511 (SR 511). Among other things, they did not consider telling the electorate that the first Naturalization Act (1790) was effectively nullified by the following corrective text found in the follow-on Naturalization Act (1795) that repealed the 1790 Act. The Naturalization Act (1795) now stated: [Excerpt] “…… and the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States:….” Naturalization Act (1795) further stated: [Excerpt] “SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That the Act intituled, “An act to establish an uniform rule of naturalization,” passed the twenty-sixth day of March, one thousand seven hundred and ninety, be, and the same is hereby repealed.”

Hint #2: Congress cannot make any person an nbC through any law. They only have the authority to naturalize citizens as specified in the U.S. Constitution. That is why SR 511 was a sham, even though SR 511 did not have any legal status attached to it. Actually, previous immigration law declared John S. McCain, III, a statutory U.S. citizen at birth by enacting a law that states that certain persons born outside the limits of the U.S.A. are indeed, U.S. citizens, but not formally declared natural born Citizens. See 8 U.S. Code § 1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904. Exact location of McCain’s birthplace is still debated.

Hint #3: Yes, John S. McCain, III, was declared a U.S. citizen, but John S. McCain’s parents were also required by law to document his U.S. citizen status upon his first entry into the continental U.S. If it takes a law to document someone a U.S. citizen, they are not an NBC. Instead they are a statutory U.S. citizen under the laws of immigration. I have a nephew who was born in England to two U.S. citizen parents. My nephew’s father was an enlisted member of the U.S. Air Force. Their son also required immigration documentation to complete and validate his U.S. citizenship upon his entry into the U.S.A. This nephew actually enlisted in the US Army, served his three-year enlistment, then it was discovered later that his status as a US citizen was in question and was required to satisfy his status as a true U.S. citizen around the age of 26 to the U.S. government. Apparently, his parents did not apply for his U.S. citizen status upon his return from the United Kingdom.

Jonathan David Mooers
Reply to  Phantom_II_Phixer
Tuesday, September 16, 2025 9:42 AM

Thank you, for that evidentiary info in Hint #3, Mr. Phantom.

It seems that the history of the USA experiment has had numerous cases of duly passing “U.S. citizen” laws, and then, unelected “bureaucriminals” hiding in back offices work to blur and devolve those definitive originalist laws:

>on July 25, 1787, John Jay pens letter to General Washington to mandate that all future U.S. Presidents be a “natural born Citizen”
>on July 25, 1788, John Jay secures unanimous vote from committee members of the New York Convention to Ratify the U.S. Constitution that proposed that the U.S. Constitution require that all future U.S. Presidents, Vice Presidents, Senators and Representatives be a “natural born Citizen” AND a “freeholder” (legally-approved land owner).
>yet, on 08-28-08 “Treason Queen” Pelosi pulled off a power grab and gave America an anti-“natural born Citizen”!

>the War of 1812 was fought, in part, due to British impressing captured U.S. sailors into the British Navy because Britain recognized these sailors as British subjects and not as “U.S. citizens”

>the horrible American Civil War was fought, in part, due to the South’s insistent view of U.S.-born negro slaves as “property” and not as equal “U.S. citizens”

>the 14th Amendment mandated that all U.S-born slaves become full “U.S. citizens” until bureaucriminals and attorney-criminals “legitimized” babies born on U.S. soil to visiting non-U.S.-citizens as being full U.S. citizen-babies!

>Democriminals today are quietly “legitimizing” non-U.S.-citizens to vote in local and national elections and insisting that non-U.S.-citizens and illegal immigrants be included in the U.S. census, all as a modern-day power grab to “save democracy” (sneaky code words for “save democratic party”)!

DEFUND AND PROSECUTE CRIMINAL DEVOLUTIONS OF ORIGINAL-PRECEDENTIAL U.S. CITIZEN LAWS
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/

Sunday, September 14, 2025 3:12 AM

Cross posted an excerpt of this article and link back at Free Republic: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4340123/posts

phrowt
Saturday, September 13, 2025 2:21 PM

Mr. DeMaio, I, having NO legal training but with the ability, at least I hope, to comprehend the written word really enjoy your on-going analyses of the issues surrounding the nBC Obama conundrum (Armond White, National Review, 14 July 2017) . I am in debt to the P&E and my copy of de Vattel’s tome. At 84 I am in hope that SCOTUS will settle this in my lifetime. To me it is only common sense.

Jonathan David Mooers
Saturday, September 13, 2025 9:28 AM

https://www.thepostemail.com/2025/08/28/natural-observations-of-obama-id-narrative-reality-08-28-08-to-08-28-25/ >>>

For 17 unprecedented years, many state-licensed attorneys argued “DCeitfully” that Obama is a Constitutionally-eligible “natural born [sole-U.S.-] Citizen” by first DCiding what outcome they wanted, i.e., frequently DCiding that “Obama is, in fact, a Constitutionally-eligible U.S. President” and then building any convoluted “legal hocus-pocus-focus” argument (and today’s AI included in this as well? [See below]) to magically reach their desired “legal” conclusion, all the while faithfully neglecting to mention some 184 continuous years of “precedential presidential” history of previous generations of U.S. citizens’ interpretation of “natural born Citizen” via their evidentiary selection and election of their U.S. Presidents and Vice Presidents (from VP John C. Calhoun in 1824 to President George W. Bush and VP Richard Cheney up until 08-27-08), who were evidently born inside the USA to publicly-apparent sole-U.S.-citizen-parents at the time of their births, unlike narrative-lie “President” Obama and narrative-lie “VP” Kamala.”

State-licensed “liars-for-hire” attorney-criminals have wrecked America for the past 17 years after the Pelosis*-Bidens-Clintons-Obamas-“Thief Justice” Roberts’ DNC-nbC-Treason on 08-28-08, by working and woking to “fundamentally transform” yesterday’s civil wrongs into today’s civil rights:
legitimize FRAUD presIDent Obama
legitimize open borders invasion
legitimize non-citizen voting in U.S. elections
legitimize cashless bail
legitimize non-citizen Representative Ilhan Omar (a “No Go” muslim politicial)
legitimize Steele dossier for Russia Hoax persecution of Donald Trump
legitimize shame-sex marriages
legitimize Jan 6 Committee and arrest hundreds of Jan 6 Trump supporters
legitimize emptying out U.S. prisons into our neighborhoods (Attys. Obama and Holder)
legitimize BurnLootMurder, etc., etc., etc.

So, let’s end this nbC legal-cycle of insanity by doing something different after the past 17 years: remove all “pimps of Lady Justice” attorney-rebuttals and educate all legal U.S. citizens today on the evidentiary natural reality (eyes) of 184 years of “precedential-presidential-nbC-history” of previous U.S. citizens before 08-28-08!

To borrow the phase coined by non-attorney (Saint?) Charlie Kirk, “PROVE ME WRONG” on my natural lawyer-free reality on the original precedential meaning of nbC (“natural born Citizen”) herein!

STOP Fingerpointing 08-28-08- 08-28-25
GO Fingerprinting Today

*”Pelosis” is a suspicious avarice-disease spread by “Insider Traitors”, Nancy and Paul Pelosi
https://www.benzinga.com/news/politics/25/06/46043373/nancy-pelosis-portfolio-crushed-wall-street-hedge-funds-with-jaw-dropping-returns-last-year