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by Joseph DeMaio, ©2024

“Alexander Hamilton” by John Trumbull, 1806 (public domain)

(Jan. 12, 2024) — Following up on the presidential eligibility posts recently appearing at The P&E here and here, the New York Post – founded, BTW, by Alexander Hamilton in 1801 – has come out and slammed President Trump’s suggestion that Nikki Haley is likely ineligible to the presidency.  The Post labels President Trump’s suggestion that Haley is not a “natural born Citizen” (“nbC”) under the Constitution as being “bonkers.”

Really?   Where to start, where to start?

First, President Trump’s post questioned Nikki Haley’s eligibility primarily in terms of her pursuit of the presidency, but it also addressed her likely disqualification for the vice-presidency under the 12th Amendment.  Problematically, the Post article misinforms its readers when it asserts that “[t]he 12th Amendment lays out the procedure for electing the president and vice president and makes no mention of eligibility.”  (Emphasis added)

Even the most cursory review of the actual language of the 12th Amendment reveals that its final sentence states: “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” (Emphasis added)  Like the caveman said in the Geico commercial from the 1980’s, “Yeah, next time, maybe do a little more research.”

Second, the author of the NY Post article, one Emily Crane, although a journalist for some 15 years with a B.A. degree in “Communications Studies” from Western Sydney University (yes, Virginia, in Australia…, not the United States), does not claim to be a U.S. Constitution scholar.  Instead, she relies for her assertions on, among others, one Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago professor who, she claims, is an expert on constitutional law.

Professor Stone is quoted in the Post article as labeling President Trump’s (and one Paul Ingrassia’s) Haley ineligibility claims as being “bonkers.”  He added that against the backdrop of the 14th Amendment, there was “no legitimate case that would disqualify Haley from the presidency based on her parents’ citizenship.”  

This, of course, is the same narrative that has been parroted by the vaunted Congressional Research Service (“CRS”) – the purported repository of “the nation’s best thinking” – since 2009, when it began defending the claimed eligibility and “natural born Citizen” status of one Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

Respectfully, there is now a lot of empirical factual and anecdotal evidence that the Founders adopted a definition of an nbC that would – as both Messrs. Trump and Ingrassia posit – disqualify and render Nikki Haley ineligible to the presidency or the vice-presidency.  Specifically, a compelling case can be made for the Founders’ adoption of the highly restrictive definition of “natural born citizen” found in § 212, Book 1, Ch. 19 of Swiss attorney, jurist and scholar Emer de Vattel’s 1758 treatise, The Law of Nations

By contrast, the “14th-Amendment-anyone-born-here-as-a-citizen-alone-makes-one-a-natural-born-citizen” theory is not only wrong, it is counterintuitive.  This erroneous fable has been the incessant drumbeat narrative in which people’s brains have been marinated for many years.  Stated otherwise, eligibility brainwashing has run deep and insidiously over the years.  And it hasn’t stopped.

While this issue has been addressed and critiqued here at The P&E as long ago as 2009 by P&E Founder John Charlton, one of the more recent triggers for that mental marinating procedure was a 2015 article authored by two former United States Solicitors General, Paul Clement and Neal Katyal, entitled “On the Meaning of Natural Born Citizen.” That article has been critiqued, of course, by your humble servant at The P&E here, here and here

https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-04-02-0218

As a matter of undisputed historical fact – and as noted by Publius Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 68 – the Founders viewed the potential for the insinuation of “foreign influence” into the highest office of the new Republic with great suspicion and trepidation.   

Federalist 68 confirms the Founders’ determination to prevent this danger, stating that it arose “chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.  How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the union?” (Emphasis added).  The objective was to shield and vigorously protect the “chief magistracy” – the Office of the President – from that potential. 

Accordingly, the Founders sought to establish the highest possible available barrier to that danger by mandating, as John Jay had “hinted” to George Washington, that the presidency be restricted to not merely a “citizen” –  as Alexander Hamilton himself had once proposed, which the Founders ultimately rejected as being too weak – but instead to a “natural born Citizen.”  The highest available and known nbC definitional barrier in existence in 1787 was the de Vattel § 212 definition: a person born in the country to two parents who were already its citizens.  Full stop.

Third, the Professor Stone/Clement-Katyal theory is that, under the 14th Amendment – which, BTW, nowhere uses the term “natural born Citizen” – if one is a “citizen at birth” or a “citizen by birth,” with no need for any further “naturalization proceedings,” that fact alone is sufficient to make one an nbC. 

Respectfully, such a definition establishes a much lower “foreign influence” barrier than does the de Vattel § 212 “born-here-to-two-citizen-parents” definition.  It defies logic – and, moreover, is outright goofy – to argue that the Founders consciously intended to choose a definition of the nbC term which established a lower barrier to foreign influence when a known, higher barrier was available.  

The only exception to the nbC mandate in the Constitution’s presidential “Eligibility Clause” – Art. 2, § 1, Cl. 5 – allowed by the Founders was the “citizen-grandfather” clause, now long since expired under the march of time. 

Because there were no “natural born Citizens” under a de Vattel § 212 definition in 1787, the Founders added that time-limited provision to allow, for example, the first seven presidents to serve despite not being nbC’s.  To quote a recognized constitutional scholar, Professor Edward S. Corwin, in his book “The President: Office and Powers, 1787 – 1984” (5th Revised Ed. 1984), at p. 38: “The first President born under the American flag was Martin Van Buren.”  (Emphasis added)

Thus, the mere existence of the “citizen-grandfather” clause while it was operative (1787 – 1837) strongly fortifies, if not outright confirms, the conclusion that the Founders adopted de Vattel’s § 212 nbC definition rather than any other inferior one that presented a lower barrier to foreign influence than that of the Swiss jurist.

Fourth, and finally, the marinating-brainwashing operation has been widespread and quite successful in convincing most people that, if one is merely born here – or in some scenarios, born anywhere on the planet such as, say, Canada or Panama – to one citizen parent, thus becoming a “citizen at/by birth,” with no need for further “naturalization” proceedings, one becomes, ipso facto, an nbC.  There is a better Latin term to describe what has been going on, now even reaching the pages of the New York Post: ipse dixit: “It is so, because I say it is so.”  Respectfully, again: not so fast.

Few are to be pitied more than the willfully uninformed.  Nikki Haley – as well as Kamala Harris, Vivek Ramaswamy and, of course, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. – are still burdened with unanswered nbC “eligibility” questions which are definitely not yet “settled.” 

Therefore, against the foregoing empirical, factual backdrop, it would seem that a far better case can be made for labeling the NY Post article, as well as the CRS and 14th Amendment “citizen at/by birth” narratives – rather than President Trump’s post – to be “bonkers.”

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Sunday, January 14, 2024 12:34 PM
Saturday, January 13, 2024 2:16 PM

Additional comments on the outstanding article by Joseph DeMaio can be seen at the Free Republic site: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4209895/posts

It is especially important as to the WHY that the “natural corn Citizen” term was added to the Presidential Eligibility Clause of our U.S. Constitution. Read more about that here: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/naturalborncitizen/TheWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyandHowofNBC-WhitePaper.pdf

CDR Kerchner (Ret)

Jonathan David Mooers
Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:03 PM

“natural born [sole-U.S.] Citizen”-President 1788- TODAY
“natural born [sole-U.S.] Citizen”-Vice President 1804- TODAY

>”natural”-sole-U.S., meaning of God the Creator (universe) and of Nature (i.e., God’s lieutenant over planet Earth, “nature’s God”); free of any foreign man-made allegiances, attachments, interferences and obligations; free of any man-made legal naturalization process(es); free of any legal man-made foreign-citizenship(s) or U.S.-citizenship renouncing(s); free of any legal man-made foreign-citizenship adoption(s)

>”born [sole-U.S.] Citizen”, meaning natural birth within and subject to a sole-U.S. jurisdiction (for example, born within the State of Maine)

The Founding Fathers did not define “natural born Citizen” because they knew what this term of art meant in 1787, in the midst of a nation-forming foreign-subject-to-U.S.-citizen transition period, that included their original Constitutional discernment of “natural born Citizen” (nbC) versus “Citizen” (C).

Because this nbC term was never defined in the U.S. Constitution or its 27 Amendments (1788- TODAY) nor defined to include any specific exceptions or any specific allowances any foreign citizenship allegiances, attachments, interferences and obligations as inherited from any born-citizen-infant’s most-influential-family-government biological parents, THERE CAN BE NO DOUBTS, any so-called “natural born Citizen” 1788- TODAY with attendant dual-, or multi- or “citizen of the world”-citizenships can never be a Constitutionally-eligible “natural born [sole-U.S.] Citizen” except perhaps in the minds of defiant non-compliant U.S. citizens and partisan attorney-criminals.

David Farrar
Saturday, January 13, 2024 11:01 AM

Birthright citizenship of 14A §1 is the very definition of a natural born subject. That is to say, without any “Consent to be Governed” passed on by citizen-parents.

B Hackett
Saturday, January 13, 2024 8:44 AM

The debates by the 39th congress on citizenship prove that Haley and Vivek are not eligible. I read them. The 14th amendment on citizenship , determined the definition of what is a citizen (not natural born), but in fact, a citizen who meets the framers definition of citizen, is also a natural born citizen. In order to be a citizen of the United States, both parents have to be citizens at the time of birth. That is what the debate said, and was passed on. The entire purpose of 14A segment, was to define who is a citizen and how, and make Blacks citizens….nothing else. The citizenship clause has been convoluted for years. All persons born in the United States are not citizens according to the debates that established citizenship.

Harold
Saturday, January 13, 2024 2:09 AM

With all due respect to Justice Thomas, the time has passed on avoiding a definitive answer to the natural-born citizen issue. The recent waves of illegal aliens crossing our southern border will produce thousands of 14th Amendment birthright citizens. Some of whom, 35 years from now, will assert the right to be elected president of the United States. What Framer would be comfortable today having for president a person with no other claim than having been born on U.S. soil minutes after his mother crossed the Rio Grande?

Johnathan J.
Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:31 AM

Other constitutional scholars also agreed with Professor Stone:

“Someone should tell him [Trump] that the North won” the Civil War, joked Burt Neuborne, a professor emeritus at New York University Law School and the founding legal director of the Brennan Center for Justice.

“If you’re born in the United States, the whole purpose of the 14th Amendment was to make you a citizen,” he added.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-promotes-baseless-birther-conspiracy-theory-nikki-haley-rcna133166

“The birther claims against Nikki Haley are totally baseless as a legal and constitutional matter,” longtime Harvard legal scholar Laurence Tribe wrote in an email. “I can’t imagine what Trump hopes to gain by those claims unless it’s to play the race card against the former governor and UN ambassador as a woman of color — and to draw on the wellsprings of anti-immigrant prejudice by reminding everyone that Haley’s parents weren’t citizens when she was born in the USA.”

https://www.salon.com/2024/01/10/ripped-for-playing-race-card-with-false-new-birther-on-nikki-haley/

James Carter
Reply to  Johnathan J.
Saturday, January 13, 2024 10:57 AM

Someone should point out to those other constitutional scholars, Professor Stone and Harvard legal scholar Laurence Tribe that the primary author of the 14th Amendment, John Bingham, twice made it perfectly clear to Congress that a “natural born citizen” was a person born in the U.S. to parents (plural) not owning any allegiance to any other nation, to wit:

“All from other lands, who, by the terms of your laws and in compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentlemen can find no exception to this statement touching natural born citizen except what is said in the Constitution in relation to [Native American] Indians”. — John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1862

AND

“I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen”. — John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866

Finally, the original draft of the Presidential eligibility clause allowed any “citizen” to serve as President. The mere fact that the founders changed that to “natural born citizen” is proof positive they differentiated “natural born citizen” and “citizen”.

Jonathan David Mooers
Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:31 AM

I have to be careful that I do not get my hopes up prematurely on the recent illuminating discussions of “nbC” herein, because I once thought Mike Zullo would nail FAKE presIDent Obama, and yet, his investigative homework for the homeland was largely brainwashed-away from the public mind.

I also got my hopes up that Hillary and Obama would be nailed for emailgate, then, the publicized findings of James Comey’s FBI-turned-FIB got all white-washed-over!

And let’s not forget the futility of the utility of assigning Trey Gowdy to possibly indict Hillary and Obama and many others complicit in the Benghazi Massacre and Cover-up, only to see “Howdy Doody [Duty] Gowdy” dangle powerlessly around possible indictments/convictions, just like the Boehner Benghazi puppet he was puppeteered to be, since his “investigate-to-death” puppet show devolved to an engineered failure, best dubbed as, “hogwash”!

SO, IT APPEARS TODAY, THAT THE ONLY WAY WE the PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BEGIN TO PUT AMERICA BACK ON ITS RIGHTFUL CONSTITUTIONAL TRACKS IS TO BROADCAST-EDUCATE U.S.CITIZENS VIA VIDEOS (which sensitize TWO senses, sight and sound, instead of only one sense, being, the sight of written words at The P&E, et al) LIKE THE RECENT ZACH DE GREGORIO VIDEOS HEREIN…otherwise today’s “propaganda press” might successfully “carwash”-away P&E’s 16-years of nbC homework herein, thus ensuring a new 2024 ELECTION INSURRECTION much like the previous 20/20 ELECTION INSURRECTION which we now know was stolen by lying Democriminals, and allowed to be “certified” by complying Republicons!

Nonetheless, let’s hope forward, and educate, educate, educate U.S. voters this year with our concentrated nbC HOMEWORK FOR THE HOMELAND herein.

John Connor
Friday, January 12, 2024 11:44 PM

Very interesting. It is very strange that so many politicians in high positions in our government have potential issues regarding their Constitutional eligibility to hold office
I initially thought questioning Obama’s place of birth was a far fetched conspiracy theory
Your coverage and Wolf&Finance have led me to believe that there is a huge conspiracy but it is being perpetrated by forces in our government
The main stream media is obviously not investigating this because as the old saying goes
Treason never prospers, because if it does, none dare call it treason. Sadly, I believe that treason on a monumental scale has occurred
Only God can help us now

Bob68+
Reply to  John Connor
Saturday, January 13, 2024 12:07 PM

Thank you John, good comment. Choosing the fraud Obama to effectively change the meaning of NBC by ignoring and lying about it was a good move by the installers and protectors of Obama, who knew Obama would be race and once sworn-in also ineligibility protected by all complicit in The Obama Fraud.
The treason committed is for sure on a monumental scale, and the result has so far proven there is such a thing as a crime, “too big to prosecute”………..
Pray, and vote for Donald Trump………

Ted
Reply to  John Connor
Saturday, January 13, 2024 9:33 PM

I was skeptical of Obama’s birth certificate just because the language in the document doesn’t mesh with what the prevailing terms during that time period.
Zach’s detailing of how the document shows curved paper pages but the lettering doesn’t curve as well cemented my conclusion that document isn’t authentic.

phrowt
Friday, January 12, 2024 10:27 PM

Like the Pope at the time said to Michelangelo, “when will it finish?”

Friday, January 12, 2024 6:39 PM

Another piece of excellent and scholarly research and writing by Joseph DeMaio. Bravo Zulu!

CDR Kerchner (Ret)
Author: Natural Born Citizen
http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm