by Sharon Rondeau

(Nov. 30, 2023) — On Sunday, legal scholar and frequent P&E contributor Joseph DeMaio queried Bing Artificial Intelligence (AI) about the meaning of the U.S. Constitution’s “natural born Citizen” clause, one of three requirements the Founders placed in Article II for the President and Commander-in-chief of the new nation’s military forces.
The Founders’ intent when including the term, which they left undefined, is a topic on which DeMaio has spent considerable time and effort over the last 14 years as questions of eligibility have arisen surrounding various presidential candidates from across the political spectrum.
His question put to AI was, precisely, “What is the definition of a ‘natural born Citizen’ under the U.S. Constitution?”
Bing AI’s response was:
The term “natural born Citizen” is one of the eligibility requirements established in the United States Constitution for holding the office of president or vice president. The U.S. Constitution uses but does not define the phrase “natural born Citizen” and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its exact meaning…” (Footnote omitted)
AI then expounded, citing recent alleged “emerging” “consensus”:
However, the consensus of early 21st-century constitutional and legal scholars, together with relevant case law, is that natural-born citizens include, subject to exceptions, those born in the United States. As to those born elsewhere who meet the legal requirements for birthright citizenship, the consensus emerging as of 2016 was that they also are natural-born citizens…”

The third footnote AI provided as a source referenced a March 2015 article titled, “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen’” by former Acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal and former Solicitor General Paul Clement published in the Harvard Law Review Forum.
Katyal served in the position under Barack Obama for 13 months (2010-2011), while Clement, following Senate confirmation, served during the last three years of the George W. Bush administration (2005-2008).
Since the article’s publication, DeMaio has frequently pointed out Clement and Katyal’s misrepresentation of the 1790 Naturalization Act’s natural born citizen reference to children born abroad as remaining in effect today when in fact, Congress repealed it in 1795, particularly as it pertained to the definition of “natural born Citizen.” The authors, DeMaio has emphasized, claim “natural born Citizen” applies to a variety of situations in which a presidential candidate may or may not have been born in the U.S.; may or may not have had U.S.-citizen parents; and would qualify if his non-U.S. citizen father, such as in the case of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, was “resident” in the U.S. for an unspecified period of time (p. 3).
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, reportedly to a U.S.-citizen mother. In 2016, The Post & Email was informed by a highly reliable source that Eleanor Darragh Cruz, who was born in Delaware, likely became a Canadian citizen while living and operating a business with her husband, Rafael Cruz, in the province during the late 1960s.
As The Post & Email reported at the time, the U.S. State Department has deemed his citizenship documents, if they exist, to be “private” despite his long career in public service.

Within days of the publication of the editorial, Cruz declared his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination. His campaign website, now offline, contained a page with similar wording intended to convince the public that despite his birth outside the U.S., Cruz was eligible to serve as president.
In 2013, The Dallas Morning News published an image of Cruz’s Canadian birth certificate and reported he was born a “dual citizen” of Canada and the United States. The article has since been removed or archived.
Cruz confirmed the image to represent his authentic Canadian birth certificate. Almost immediately after the publication of the article, Cruz commenced the process of formally renouncing his Canadian citizenship, of which he claimed he had been unaware until The Morning News’s initial report.
Any challenge to the eligibility of the late Arizona Senator John McCain, who was born to U.S.-citizen parents in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, Katyal and Clement claimed in their article, was “spurious” (p. 4).

Continuing its response to DeMaio, AI invoked the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, and the oft-referenced 1898 federal case of U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark in which the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Ark, who was born in San Francisco to two Chinese-citizen parents legally present in the country, to be a U.S. citizen, overturning previous precedent.
In its decision, the court did not reach the meaning of “natural born Citizen,” although many “legal scholars” and the media often conflate the term with “U.S. citizen.”
As to Bing’s response, DeMaio wrote:
At least the Bing response concedes that the USSC has not yet directly addressed the definition in a case properly before it, but raises the specter of a refusal to do so on the “political question” ground. That is absurd: there is nothing “political” about a definition establishing who the Founders believed could be eligible to the presidency.
DeMaio found that virtually the same question posed to AI at different times yields a different result. On Monday, he reported, “The references have changed from yesterday, omitting reference to the Harvard Law Review Forum article by Clement & Katyal, but the theme is unchanged: ‘citizen at/by birth’ = nbC.”
DeMaio then made the following new observation:
One of the statements in particular from the Clement-Katyal Harvard article is demonstrably wrong. Specifically, the Clement-Katyal article claims that “[t]he proviso in the Naturalization Act of 1790 underscores that while the concept of natural born citizen has remained constant, and plainly includes someone who is a citizen from birth by descent, without the need to undergo naturalization proceedings, the details of which individuals born abroad to a citizen parent qualify as citizens from birth have changed.” (Emphasis added)
First, by stating that the concept “plainly includes someone who is a citizen from birth through descent…,” (emphasis added), the article eviscerates the Congressional Research Service position that the principles of citizenship via place of birth alone under the protocols of jus soli — rather than under the principles of bloodline (jus sangunis) — were solely what motivated the Founders. In fact, the § 212 de Vattel definition incorporates both jus soli and jus sanguinis principles to form the highest impediment against the insinuation of foreign influence into the presidency. With that known barrier in existence, one must ask: does it make sense that the Founders would have consciously adopted an inferior, lower barrier?
Second, in reality, the fact is that the concept of natural born Citizen from the Naturalization Act of 1790 has NOT remained constant, and in fact, was specifically repealed by Congress in 1795 by 1 Stat. 414. The misrepresentation in the Clement-Katyal article that the natural born citizen “concept” of the 1790 act has remained “constant” is plainly wrong.
§ 1 Stat. 103 lasted for only five years until Congress repealed the provision, likely because James Madison realized in 1795 that 1 Stat. 103 inadvertently, but improperly, tried to amend the nbC clause of Art. 2, 1, Cl. 5 of the Constitution, as discussed here. The passage of 1 Stat. 414 by Congress in 1795 corrected that prior error, one which the Clement-Katyal article not only ignores, but purports to claim “has remained constant” since 1790.
DeMaio concluded the exercise with:
Against this backdrop, the notion that the Founders intended to perpetuate the idea that a child born to U.S. citizen parents outside the geographic boundaries of the nation was a natural born Citizen — when that idea was seemingly recognized as an error by the Congress and corrected through the repeal of the 1790 Act and enactment of the 1795 Act, collapses.
The claim by Bing AI that “the consensus of early 21st-century constitutional and legal scholars…” that nbC status can be achieved anywhere in the world if one is merely a “citizen at/by birth” is a poor substitute for what historical empirical evidence — not to mention reasoned thought — suggests the Founders actually intended and meant. At this point in the Republic’s history, ipse dixit — “it is so because I say it is so” — masquerading as logic should not control.
The Supreme Court, as even Bing AI has conceded, has not yet settled this issue. The “political question” excuse aside, SCOTUS should accept jurisdiction over a live “case or controversy” now, before the 2024 general election, and put the question to rest.

Johnny drank some H2O. Johnny ain’t no more. For what Johnny THOUGHT was H2O was H2SO4.
Those who think that an NBC is OTHER than One born in the US to parents who are both US Citizens themselves continue to make the same very consequential mistake that Johnny made and can expect the same fate as Johnny.
Continuing to drink from the fountain of NBC deception and further allowing foreign influence to rear its ugly head in our highest offices IS GOING to lead to very deleterious effects affecting the existence of our American Republic.
The initial ratification of Article 2 Presidential qualifications remains unaltered when the 14th Amendment citizenship rules were drafted, ratified then repealed.
Regardless of the political scenario, two citizen parents, on the soils
Simple as that.
AI, like the term GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out) used at the inception of the IT age, is no different. Looking up the definition of Artificial only points to the same results.
Adjective:
– Made by humans, especially in imitation of something natural. “an artificial sweetener that replaces sugar; artificial flowers.”
– Not arising from natural or necessary causes; contrived or arbitrary. Affected or insincere. “an artificial smile.”
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition
My favorite programer joke is
If 2 + 2 = 5 then 5 = 4
Obvious Natural Reality (eyes) vs Oblivious Narrative Reality (lies) on “natural born [U.S.] Citizen” (nbC)
While attorney-criminals can publish rubbish to declare that Rafael “Canada” Cruz is a “natural born [U.S.] Citizen” and that foreign-citizenships, Obama and Kamala, are each a “natural born [U.S.] Citizen”, et al, I now encourage readers to wipe all that intentional hocus-pocus-focus legalese off the table of reasoning in order to focus all human eyes on observations of natural reality, which all natural U.S.-laymen-citizens and U.S.-attorney-citizens can both understand without all the distractive esoteric legal background noise.
1. John Jay’s “natural born [U.S.] Citizen” clause-cause remains the supreme presidential qualifier of the land 1789- TODAY; this clause can either be followed, or duly re-worded/up-dated as a Constitutional Amendment proposed to all states to formally ratify.
2. From 1789- 08-28-08, all previous U.S. citizens obviously defined “natural born [U.S.] Citizen” as being born within and subject to a sole-U.S.-jurisdiction to sole-U.S.-citizen-parents from the U.S. tribe: https://www.scribd.com/doc/48856102/All-U-S-Presidents-Eligibility-Grandfather-Clause-Natural-Born-Citizen-Clause-or-Seated-by-Fraud
3. On 08-28-08, America’s first female Speaker, Nancy Patricia D’Alesandro-Pelosi, over-ruled the finding of Obama’s own Democratic Party of Hawaii that Obama was not a precedential “natural born [U.S.] Citizen” presidential candidate. Instead, Speaker Pelosi committed treason on 08-28-08 by forging the DNC-nbC nomination papers for Obama and his criminal accomplice, Joe Biden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFwqUi3zR0&feature=youtu.be
3. With neither a U.S. Supreme Court decision or a U.S. Constitutional Amendment for states to duly ratify to legally render “natural born [U.S.] Citizen” to mean “born in a U.S. jurisdiction to a sole-foreign-citizen parent(s)” in order for Obama to legally run for U.S. president, Speaker Pelosi willfully went ahead and unaccountably forged Obama’s DNC-nbC nomination papers, and this treasonous presidential-qualifier precedent has been criminally imitated 08-28-08- TODAY by Democratic and Republican parties: https://www.scribd.com/lists/22182725/Some-Politicians-Seeking-High-Office-Who-Are-Not-A-Natural-Born-Citizen-of-U-S
While many “natural born [U.S.] Citizens” have taken the legal route to protest the obvious Pelosi-Biden-Obama treason of 08-28-08, again, U.S. attorney-criminals have intentionally confused and zealously protected this treason: http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/birther%20case%20list.pdf
So, here we are, today, only a heartbeat away from the complete uncontested exoneration of the U.S. legal community’s guilty-knowledge participation in the Pelosi-Biden-Obama Election Coup and fallout of 08-28-08, the living heartbeat of today’s attorney-attacked “natural born [U.S.] Citizen”-President, Donald Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynRh_hkfPBs
Comment from Joseph DeMaio:
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Your humble servant had not originally anticipated or intended that The P&E’s intrepid Editor would convert his “Bing AI” email to her into another post on the Constitution’s “natural born Citizen” (“nbC“) eligibility clause issue. Yet he is gratified that she did so.
Gratification is warranted because her post captures the persistent problem of repeating nbC information claimed to be accurate, but which, at best, is frequently flawed.
Even Bing AI concedes that the rote definition of the term today – nbC = merely “citizen at/by birth” – is the result of a “consensus.” That consensus consists of the blended opinions of 21st Century purported “constitutional and legal scholars, together with relevant case law…” rather than the product of a detailed analysis of what empirical historical evidence — and linguistic chicanery — strongly suggests the Founders intended and meant, i.e., that an nbC could only be a person born in this country to parents who were already its citizens.
As a matter of historical fact, it was once decreed – and required to be believed on pain of burning at the stake – that the Earth sat on the back of a giant turtle. The mandatory consensus dogma continued that the sun orbited the turtle and its passenger each day rather than the turtle carrying the Earth around the sun each day. As to what supported the turtle, it was, as they say, “turtles all the way down.” That flawed “consensus” was finally put to rest by Copernicus and Galileo, but only after more than a few “heretics” were incinerated.
Today, those of the “de Vattel § 212 persuasion” are only lampooned and censored instead of, mercifully, burned at the stake. The P&E and the intrepid Editor remain one of the very few islands in a sea of opposing “consensus” narrative on the topic. Lamentable, but true. Yet the rote “turtle” narrative remains uncensored. And now, via “AI,” it is propagated worldwide and by virtually all American voters accepted with little if any questioning: “Give it a rest and move along…, nothing to see here.”
However, a “consensus” opinion is still only a “groupthink” commodity. Consensus groupthink, in turn, is a poor and inferior substitute for historical evidence and a binding U.S. Supreme Court decision on as important an issue as what the Founders – as opposed to 21st Century “scholars” – meant to be included as an essential restriction in their new Constitution. But equally lamentable is the reality that the Supreme Court’s unwillingness to address the issue directly only perpetuates and fortifies the “consensus” narrative.
All of the foregoing being said, that which remains essential here is the continued fortitude and dedication of that intrepid Editor of The P&E. She leads the charge that others have abandoned, and The P&E island remains above consensus sea level.
The definition of a Natural Born Citizen of the United States IS “one born in the United States (or a fully incorporated territory of the United States) to parents who are BOTH Citizens of the United States”.
NBCs possess 100% U.S. jus soli AS WELL AS 100% U.S. jus sanquinis.
There is but ONE formula for water. That is H2O.
It’s not HO, H3O or anything else. If it isn’t H2O it ISN’T THE SAME!!!!
Because of the GROSS Nonfeasance of the US Supreme Court in “evading this issue” our Nation is NOW under foreign influenced control by usurpers.
“We are evading the issue”-Justice Clarence Thomas
Laws/Acts passed by Congress to grant U.S. citizenship “at/by birth” such as the 1790 Act and the 1795 Act which totally repealed and replaced the 1790 Act, and more recent Acts/Laws and parts of Acts/Laws such as Title 8 Section 1401, are Naturalization Acts/Laws which grant citizenship at/by birth for various birth circumstances and situations when one is not naturally recognized as a “natural born Citizen” per Natural Law, i.e., Vattel Vol.1 Chapter 19, Section 212. See; https://lonang.com/library/reference/vattel-law-of-nations/vatt-119/
Thus said citizen at/by birth granted by Congress under those laws is a “naturalized Citizen”. Even the titles and descriptions of those laws state they are naturalization laws. Under the U.S. Constitution the Congress only has the power to enact naturalization laws, and that is so stated in the U.S. Constitution. They are granted the power to naturalize citizens. No man-made law can create a “natural born Citizen”, which is a Natural Law term, i.e., one born in the country to parents who were both citizens of the country when their child was born. Those that cite those man-made laws conveniently forget to mention that the laws/acts passed by Congress are Naturalization Acts/Laws.
A follow up question to these AI engines is to ask “why” did the founders and framers choose the term “natural born Citizen” (nbC) as part of the eligibility requirements for future Presidents and Commanders in Chief once the founding generation was gone. And then follow on from the answer to see if the modern progressive manipulation and redefinition of the term achieves the goal of the original “why” the nbC term was chosen by the founders.
And AI, if indeed a form of intelligence, should logically state what it believes the original intent, purpose, and meaning of the nbC term understanding to the founders and framers was, and not simply regurgitate what others have said it means in its answers.
For more information for anyone new to this battle, get and read a copy of my book, “Natural Born Citizen”: http://www.kerchner.com/books/naturalborncitizen.htm
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
You present very good logic in your comments. The Founding Framers did not add useless words and sentences when penning the US Constitution and therefore did not find a need to include a glossary in the US Constitution.
Precisely as you stated: “No man-made law can create a “natural born Citizen”, which is a Natural Law term, i.e., one born in the country to parents who were both citizens of the country when their child was born.”
To your above quote, I would like to state that the law makers who penned the Naturalization Act of 1795 discovered their errant words (natural born) found in the previous Naturalization Act of 1790 and that is why you will never find the phrase “natural born Citizen” in any current naturalization/citizenship acts/laws. It is only found in the US Constitution, Article II pertaining to the eligibility requirements of the Executive Office candidates and not found in Article I or III.
https://www.mountvernon.org/education/primary-source-collections/primary-source-collections/article/naturalization-acts-of-1790-and-1795/
Hmmh? I wonder if any of the AI engines have read Emer de Vattel’s “Law of Nations of Principles of Natural Law” or my book on “natural born Citizen” (nbC) or any of the descriptions or reviews of same, or chapters or sections of same? If it is intelligent it should be able to read a book, especially the online content of them. The contents of both can be found online in electronic format at SCRIBD and CALAMEO. Or has it been shadow banned from them as part of their seeding process? Only the shadow (government) knows! That is another good question to ask AI, if anyone wishes to dabble with these AI engines on political issue subjects.
My opinion is all these AI engines are over hyped search engines that just provide search algorithm answers restructured as sentences. And if you feed the search algorithm garbage in or restrict it as to what it is allowed to see (on say political issues) then you get garbage or incomplete answers out. I don’t think any of these AI engines are capable of truly “critical thinking” by itself. But they sure do drive up the stock prices of technology companies who can tout that they are involved with the AI boom.
I wonder what pronoun these WOKE AI engines want to use – he, she, they, them, it? :-)
CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org
Excellent article, even if we are talking about using a “robot” (Bing AI) as a constitutional scholar or anything else implying usefulness or knowledge. Sorry, but that’s my opinion of so-called “artificial intelligence!” On the subject of the definition of Natural Born Citizenship as meant by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of our U.S. Constitution, it occurs to me that the controversy or question HAS ALREADY BEEN “PUT TO REST.” THIS IS COURTESY OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AND HIS EIGHT YEAR PRESIDENCY; CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS AND OUR SUPREME COURT’S REFUSAL TO ADDRESS THE NBC CONTROVERSY, WHICH LIKELY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MATTER WE AS A COUNTRY WILL EVER FACE; AND, DARE I SAY IT, OUR CORRUPT GOVERNMENT INCLUDING THE CIA, THE “DEEP STATE,” FAR-LEFT SOCIALISTS AND WANNA-BE COMMUNISTS, AND OTHERS WHO ADVOCATE A PHONY WOKE MARXIST “NEW WORLD ORDER.” So, May God Bless Us All, and, If It Is Meant To Be, Help Make America Great Again. Amen.