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by Sharon Rondeau

(Mar. 5, 2023) — Late Saturday morning in the Eastern time zone, Twitter account-holder MAPennell replied to a tweet of The Post & Email’s by recommending that 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy make public his “parent’s” [sic] Certificate of Naturalization to demonstrate he is a “natural born Citizen,” one of three requirements in Article II of the U.S. Constitution for the nation’s chief executive and commander-in-chief.

Ramaswamy declared his candidacy late last month on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on a platform emphasizing the “unapologetic pursuit of excellence in this country” and ending Affirmative Action, among other items.

According to publicly-available information, Ramaswamy was born in Cincinnati, OH in 1985 to “immigrant” parents, but their status at the time of his birth is unclear. The News Minute, a website based in India and founded in 2014, describes Ramaswamy as “a second-generation Indian-American,” perhaps signifying that his parents became U.S. citizens at some point.

According to extensive research conducted by the late attorney Mario Apuzzo and numerous others, the Framers of the Constitution understood “natural born Citizen” to indicate “a child born in the country of parents who are citizens.” However, many Americans believe the term to signify a person born on U.S. soil irrespective of his or her parents’ citizenship status.

MAPennell’s profile indicates he follows The Post & Email as well as narratives centered on the former UK Prince Harry and his wife, American actress Meghan Markle. On his Twitter masthead, MAPennell displays an image containing both the UK and U.S. flags.

In addition to responding to The Post & Email’s tweet, MAPennell directed his message to journalist Emerald Robinson, previously of Newsmax and current host of “The Absolute Truth” on MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell’s Frankspeech website.

“To stop doubt of @VivekGRamaswamy (Art. 2, § 1, Cl. 5 Natural Born Citizen eligibility),” MAPennell wrote,” followed by, “instead of serving the House or Senate where one only need be a citizen…” “He should post both parent’s (Certificate of Naturalization) which they should be proud of.”

The statements are accompanied by a screenshot of the Constitution’s Article II, Section 1, clause 5, the “natural born Citizen” requirement.

A second screenshot references three U.S. Supreme Court cases The Venus, Minor v. Happersett, and “Ex parte Reynolds, 1879,” which this non-lawyer writer believes to be Reynolds v. United States, a case unrelated to the “natural born Citizen” issue.

The Post & Email responded to MAPennell’s tweet about Ramaswamy with, “Thank you — story coming!”

Unbeknownst to us at the time, our reply was copied to Robinson and Ramaswamy.

MAPennell then indicated he “liked” the tweet.

After researching Reynolds, we sent MAPennell a second reply requesting clarification given that it appeared the reference in the context of “natural born Citizen” was a mistaken one. As of press time, we have not received a reply. However, very early Sunday morning the account tweeted to us and five other accounts the following:

Prior to his or her tweet invoking Ramaswamy, MAPennell tweeted a video to The Post & Email’s attention referencing Joe Biden’s recent trip to Poland and his wife’s presumed generalized role in his White House occupancy. “How power-hungry and greedy is a wife to allow this?” he asked.


Update, 9:56 a.m. EST: In a notable coincidence, after tweeting a link to this story and refreshing the Twitter page, the first two tweets visible to us were from Robinson and Ramaswamy, respectively, although not responsive to the “natural born Citizen” topic:

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Monday, July 17, 2023 2:57 PM

The Constitution requires one to be a “natural born citizen” of the USA to be President or Vice President. The internationally recognized definition, also acknowledged by the Supreme Court on multiple occasions:

“The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” – Law of Nations

Alexander Hamilton’s proposal to the Constitutional Convention was a requirement that the qualifying person “shall hereafter be born a citizen”. Chief Justice John Jay recognized the danger of dual allegiance by birth and recommended the much more strict requirements of “natural born citizen” instead.

“…the term ‘natural born citizen’ is used and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states.” – The New Englander and Yale Law Review, Volume 3 (1845), p. 414

Barack Obama and Kamala Harris, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, all can not qualify. To allow them to take either office is a violation of the US Constitution.

What was the citizenship status of Vivek Ramaswamy’s parents when he was born?

That matters.

Barack Obama took office as teams of lawyers fought to block lawsuits, for lack of “standing”, demanding he demonstrate eligibility by submitting his legal birth documents as evidence to be weighed against the law. He never did. That has become precedent for further corruption of the Executive branch, as Kamala Harris illegally took office. Both were born to non-Citizen parents who passed down foreign allegiance by birth.

Are Republicans willing to help overthrow the American System as well?

Leonard Payne
Monday, June 26, 2023 8:15 PM

The REQUIREMENT of “Natural Born Citizen” for the Office of President is easily confirmed.
Many claim the the “definition” is unknown …. this is provably false.
A simple reading of the Constitution will clarify where the “definition” may be found.
It is incumbent upon the person wishing to be a “candidate” for President to PROVE that the REQUIREMENTS are being met. They MUST show a definition of “Natural Born Citizen” that our Founders would have known and accepted.
As far as I have been able to determine, our Founders were not that ‘familiar’ with “International Law”, thus, they relied on Vattel’s “Law of Nations”. Franklin claimed to have given multiple copies of same to the Continental Congress and that they were “ever in that volume”.
Further proof that our Founders used Vattel’s, “Law of Nations” is found in the Constitution, itself.
“Article I, Section 8 (powers given to Congress), Item 10, “To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations.”

Show me any other “Law of Nations” that our Founders would have known and accepted during the drafting of the founding documents

Reply to  Leonard Payne
Monday, July 17, 2023 3:00 PM

Well stated. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution empowers Congress to enforce the clauses of the Law of Nations. That’s the actual title of the physical book they were using as a reference when writing the Constitution. It had been a standard textbook in Harvard Law School for at least the previous decade. Many of the founders’ own legal writings referred to it as well.

They knew what a “natural born citizen” is and the purpose for requiring it. Only by great deception can we today pretend it means anything different.

“The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” – Law of Nations

“…the term ‘natural born citizen’ is used and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states.” – The New Englander and Yale Law Review, Volume 3 (1845), p. 414

ARMOR-Bearer 147
Friday, May 12, 2023 11:49 AM

Ron DeSantis’ mother, Karen DeSantis nee Rogers, was not a U.S. citizen when Ron was born. Ron was born in 1975. She did not become a citizen until 1983.

Reply to  ARMOR-Bearer 147
Monday, July 17, 2023 3:12 PM

Please show evidence of this. From what I have found, the mother of Ron DeSantis was born in a town called Poland in Mahoning County, Ohio. That made her a US Citizen by birth.

Do you have solid information to the contrary?

Please check information at this link:
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2023/06/05/disinformation-is-circulating-about-ron-desantis-mothers-birth-location-she-was-born-in-near-poland-ohio-not-the-country-of-poland-in-europe/

Barf Gooden
Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:05 AM

kamela harris IS NOT a NBC..

Leonard Payne
Reply to  Barf Gooden
Monday, June 26, 2023 8:16 PM

Nor was the Usurper Obama or Ted Cruz

Douglas Smith
Monday, May 1, 2023 1:40 PM

English Common Law required those born under the Dominion of the Crown whose parents were illegal aliens to be natural born subjects. A need for those appointed to Parliament to be removed as far as possible from foreign influence required Parliament in 1700 to pass a law requiring those in Parliament to be born of parents (note plural) who were English subjects. The Framers, aware that an Act of Parliament could be changed by transient means wanted a more permanent home for the qualifications of the President. John Jay’s letter to George Washington propelled the Framers to not leave it up to Congress so they put it in the Constitution so that only an amendment approved by 3/4’s of the States could change it. This qualification is that both parents MUST be citizens of the United States when the child is born. USC Title 8 includes those born in foreign lands of parents who are citizens to be considered as natural born Citizens.

Tuesday, March 7, 2023 12:58 PM

Sent via Twitter tweet today:

@VivekGRamaswamy Please tell us what date your parents became naturalized U.S. Citizens. Better yet, release their naturalization file. Transparency is important in your run for Presidency. I have contacted your campaign directly with question & got no answer. #naturalborncitizen

CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org

Bob68
Monday, March 6, 2023 10:07 PM

IMO any discussion of eligibility should also include this on Security clearances:
https://www.thepostemail.com/2016/07/06/who-must-have-a-security-background-check/

Bob68
Monday, March 6, 2023 4:56 PM

CBS News on Obama Administration refusing to release records. They also managed to get in a poke at Trump, the incoming President:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-spent-36m-on-records-lawsuits-last-year/

Robert Laity
Monday, March 6, 2023 4:17 AM

There are several “Ex Parte Reynolds” cases in the books. The one that we want is “Ex Parte Reynolds”, 1879 5 Dill., 394, 402.

The court in this case uses the same definition of NBC as Vattel did without citing Vattel.

https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F.cass/0020.f.cass/0020.f.cass.0582.pdf

https://www.usnaturalborncitizen.com/meaningofnaturalborn.html

Joe Mayer
Sunday, March 5, 2023 9:14 PM

Obama was a dual citizen. His eligibility was falsified by Pelosi and Biden on DNC Vetting papers in 2008.

Ted
Reply to  Joe Mayer
Sunday, March 5, 2023 11:17 PM

They gotta away with it.

Rob Laity
Reply to  Joe Mayer
Monday, March 6, 2023 4:16 AM

Obama’s BC is also forged. He may not even be who he says he is.

Rob Laity
Reply to  Joe Mayer
Monday, March 6, 2023 4:21 AM

Since Obama’s BC is a known forgery, Obama may not even be who he says that he is.

KJ Alexander
Sunday, March 5, 2023 2:50 PM

The “Yes We Can” man sure wasn’t and look at the division he sold. Seems we have allowed multiple standards with no justice. The illegals will be running locally since they can vote in many places…look at St. Paul, parts of N.Y. both just a warm-up for what will happen.

Sunday, March 5, 2023 1:12 PM

On the 23rd of February of this year I contacted his campaign using the supplied contact form on his webpage and asked him for the immigration status of his parents when he was born and/or … were they citizens of the USA when he was born. I provided my name, zip code, and email address. I did not get a direct reply.

Instead my name and email address was put onto his campaign’s marketing bulk email list and I now get regular promotional email from his campaign regarding his latest campaign statements. He and his campaign are obviously avoiding the question. That makes me strongly suspect his parents were not citizens of the USA when Vivek Ramaswamy was born and he is hiding that. His status is apparently in the same category as Jindal, Haley, Rubio, and others … that is born in the USA to non-citizen parents and thus born with dual-Citizenship and allegiance to more than one country at birth. And if that is the case, he thus is not a “natural born Citizen” of the United States and is NOT an Article II Section 1 Clause 5 constitutionally eligible person to be President and Commander in Chief of our military, or the VP per the 12th Amendment. A natural born Citizen of the United States is a person born with unity of Citizenship and sole allegiance at birth to the USA and only the USA. That is what the founders and framers wanted for future Commander in Chiefs. A natural born Citizen is a person born in the USA to parents who were both Citizens (born citizens or naturalized citizens) of the USA when their child was born.

CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org

Ted
Sunday, March 5, 2023 10:02 AM

The relevant question to ask is if Ranswarmy, Haley & Harris hold or have held foreign citizenship if the answer is yes then they’re not Natural Born Citizens. When the 14th amendment was passed Native Americans were excluded due to being subject to tribal jurisdiction. Individuals who invoke the 14th amendment as making one eligible are mistaken as individuals who have dual citizenship are subject to the jurisdiction of another country, something the framers would never have allowed.
Ted Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2016 as if writing a letter to Canada would all of the sudden make him a Natural Born Citizen. One is a either Natural Born Citizen at birth or they’re not. One can’t become one in their mid 40’s.
Ask the question of foreign citizenship, they may not even know they hold foreign citizenship.

Reply to  Ted
Sunday, March 5, 2023 1:27 PM

Hi Ted:

I respectfully suggest that you (and others in this thread) contact Vivek Ramaswamy and ask him that question as you have worded it. The more who ask him the more likely he will be forced to address the questions.

CDR Kerchner (Ret)
http://www.ProtectOurLiberty.org

Ted
Reply to  CDR Kerchner (Ret)
Sunday, March 5, 2023 7:15 PM

Unfortunately there’s forces that detest the Natural Born Citizen clause, little by little they’re altering the office by allowing illegitimate individuals to be sworn in as evidence by Obama & Harris. They’ve tried numerous times to alter the requirement in Congress to no avail. Inquiries into campaigns are wasted energy, they’re simply not going to respond. The media isn’t going to do anything either. Absent a political opponent legally challenging nothing is going to change, Trump & Pence both had the opportunity to force the issue of Harris’s eligibility and they declined, why?
Unless the pool of those with standing to litigate is expanded to normal citizens nothing is likely to change.

Rob Laity
Reply to  Ted
Monday, March 6, 2023 4:38 AM

Technically, under the DC Code, a citizen may sue for a Writ of Quo Warranto in the DC Federal Court system including SCOTUS under the proper circumstances. The USAG must decline to prosecute a person in office illegally after having been formally asked to do so. Then the court must be petitioned for a request to file the case “In behalf of the U.S.” and subsequently posting a bond to cover costs for proceeding. This is THE process that I filed in suing Kamala Harris. If she or anyone else for that matter, ever usurps the Presidency or Vice-Presidency again, I WILL sue again.

https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/04/25/exclusive-laity-provides-supreme-court-filing-challenging-harriss-eligibility/

See: DC Code “Actions against officers of the United States” Title 16, Chapter 35, subchapters 1

Rob Laity
Reply to  Ted
Monday, March 6, 2023 5:01 AM

See: DC Code “Actions against officers of the US”

https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/titles/16/chapters/35/subchapters/I

B Hackett
Reply to  CDR Kerchner (Ret)
Tuesday, April 11, 2023 4:14 PM

I have asked him 6 times and no response. One would think that if he wasn’t an NBC, he would proudly say so.

Rob Laity
Reply to  Ted
Monday, March 6, 2023 4:26 AM

Native Americans are now citizens of the U.S. That said, I have a question concerning whether they can be NBCs if born ON a sovereign Indian nation reservation. What do my fellow readers/contributors of the P & E think?