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by Dr. Joseph Mercola, public domain

Screenshot: Interview between Dr. Mattias Desmet and Aubrey Marcus, published by Dr. Mercola

(Nov. 27, 2021) — In the video above, Mattias Desmet, professor of clinical psychology at Ghent University in Belgium, reviews the societal conditions under which a population ends up willingly sacrificing their freedom.

Desmet, who also has a master’s degree in statistics, discovered peculiar anomalies in statistical analyses done during the COVID pandemic, which made him realize our global society is starting to enter a “mass formation” state, a type of “collective hypnosis” required for the rise of a totalitarian regime.

In this Aubrey Marcus podcast interview, Desmet reviews the step-by-step formula that results in this collective hypnosis, and how this formula has been deployed on the global population over the past two years.

Needless to say, he warns us about continuing down this path, and provides solutions that we can take, both on an individual and collective basis, to prevent the loss of freedom that will surely follow if we do nothing.

Nonsensical Modeling

Around the end of February 2020, Desmet started looking at case fatality rates and other statistics, quickly realizing that there was something seriously wrong with the models presented to the public and used as justification for shutting down “nonessential” businesses and telling everyone to stay at home.

The models were greatly exaggerating the threat of SARS-CoV-2, and by the end of May 2020, this was “proven beyond doubt.” For example, the Imperial College in London predicted that if Sweden did not lock down, 80,000 people would be dead by the end of May 2020. Well, Sweden opted not to lock down, and by the end of May only 6,000 people had died with a diagnosis of COVID-19.

Strangest of all, Desmet says, was that everyone kept saying the coronavirus countermeasures were based on mathematical models and science, yet “when it was proven beyond doubt that the initial models were completely wrong, the measures continued, as if nothing was wrong and the models were right.”

Clearly, then, modeling and science were not foundational or even part of the equation at all. This, Desmet says, “was a strong sign that there was something going on at the psychological level that was really powerful.”

Another tipoff that something was really wrong was the fact that none of our political leaders were taking into account the collateral damage of their countermeasures. There was no cost-benefit/risk-reward analysis for any of the countermeasures.

The World Health Organization did warn that the measures might result in excess deaths from starvation. Yet at no time did we ever see a mathematical model that took into account both sides of the coin — the death toll from the virus, and the collateral damage of the countermeasures. And without such an analysis, we could not assess whether the countermeasures might be more harmful than the virus.

Anytime you consider a public health measure, a cost-benefit analysis is essential. You cannot make a sensible decision without it. Yet here, such basics were ignored as if the collateral damage was inconsequential.

The Four Base Conditions for ‘Mass Formation’

What psychological dynamics and processes might be responsible for this apparent blindness? After a couple of months, Desmet finally realized what was going on. Society was (and still is) under the spell of a mass hypnosis, a psychological process known as “mass formation” that arises in society when specific conditions are met.

The central condition is a lack of societal bonding. In other words, social isolation on a mass scale, which is precisely what the lockdowns were all about. We were all told that any contact with others, including members of our own family, could be a death sentence.

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[Editor’s Note: Dr. Robert W. Malone, a pioneer of mRNA gene therapy technology, spoke about Desmet’s findings here:


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  1. It seems to be clear: No debate allowed, No alternate discussion allowed, All governments tooting the same horn, No consideration of damage caused by lockdowns, No concern for Trillions of wasted dollars, etc.
    The actions taken by the governments were never about controlling the virus, it was all about controlling the People. It was all about using a manufactured crisis to stem the tide of National Populism worldwide. It was all about stopping Trump. It was about establishing a Global Order under which Personal Freedom and Individual Sovereignty would forever be crushed under the weight of Total Tyranny.

    1. Yes, it was all about stopping Trump. The election cheating, the total BS efforts to impeach President Trump…..all about stopping Trump. There are a lot of reasons why both parties did not want an outsider, someone not part of the uniparty to be president. With Donald Trump reason number one was because Trump and both parties know that Trump knows, that Obama was never eligible to be president. The criminality of both parties went off=scale high when neither party did anything to prevent the Soros funded, Brennan and the CIA created Barack Hussein Obama from being sworn-in as America’s putative president. When the planned and promised in 2008 after Obama cover president, Hillary Clinton, was defeated by Obama’s biggest nemesis Donald Trump both parties panicked in fear of being found guilty of ignoring their sworn oath to protect the Constitution and of effectively giving America’s government and her military to her enemies. They kept President under siege with lies and failed impeachment attempts and removed him from office in the stolen 2020 election, all to protect themselves from being found guilty of being part of the Obama fraud and its still on-going, and so-far successful, cover-up……….Easy to understand, but apparently too big to prosecute………America is struggling to survive the Obama fraud and its replacement for Hillary as cover president, Joe Biden………….

  2. The only people willing to sacrifice their freedom are people who are willing to sacrifice their own lives so that others can live in freedom, and people who have never lived without freedom.