by Dr. Joseph Mercola, public domain

Steve Kirsch interview with Dr. Joseph Mercola, 11-21-2021

(Nov. 21, 2021) — In this interview, Steve Kirsch, executive director of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund, reviews some of the COVID jab data he’s presented to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention during various meetings.

For example, during the September 17, 2021, FDA VRBPAC (Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee) meeting,1 Kirsch cited data suggesting 1 in 317 boys aged 16 to 17 will get myocarditis from the shots, and after a third booster, that number may be even higher. He also cited data showing the Pfizer shot kills far more people than it saves. I’ll provide more details about that below.

Kirsch didn’t come into this due to some preconceived opinion about vaccines. He and his family have all received two doses of the COVID jab. It wasn’t until after the fact that he started hearing about problems from others that he started taking deep dives into the data. He explains:

“After I got vaccinated, a woman asked me, ‘Should I get vaccinated?’ And I said, ‘Of course, you should. This is the safest thing ever. Nobody’s died and there are no side effects. You’ve got to get this modern technology.’ I’m singing from the hymn book.

And then she said something that threw me off course because I said, ‘Why are you asking such a stupid question?’ And she said, ‘Well, three of my relatives got the vaccine and they died within a week.’ I said, ‘No, no, that can’t be true. There’s no way that can happen.’

I’m trying to convince her that she’s mistaken, that it must have been something else. I wrote her saying, ‘Statistically, you can’t have three people dying from the vaccine, which doesn’t kill anyone.’ And she wrote back and she said, ‘Yeah, but they’re dead.’

That was a game-changing moment for me … but I was still in denial … I was operating [from the position] that the FDA is still operating the same [conservative] way [they used to before], but they’re not … nor did I understand that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now mission driven, and the mission is to get a needle in every arm. My trust was in the agencies.

The next incident involved my carpet cleaner, Tim Damroth. He showed up wearing a mask. And I’m saying, ‘Hey, you should all get vaccinated. Once you get vaccinated you don’t have to wear a mask.’ And he said, ‘Well, I did get vaccinated, but I had an extreme reaction. I had a heart attack two minutes after I got injected.’ He also described that his wife had [developed] Parkinson’s-like symptoms. Her left hand was shaking uncontrollably.”

The Price Truth-Tellers Pay

The data are ultimately what convinced him that people must be told the truth about these shots because, without that, they cannot give informed consent. He’s sacrificed a lot to do just that, including professional relationships and millions of dollars in lost income.

“I basically put my life on hold and started looking in the various databases and talking to people to understand what was going on,” Kirsch says. “And every place I looked, [the truth] became more clear to me. And so, on May 25, 2021, I wrote this 250-page article for TrialSiteNews. It may be the longest article for TrialSiteNews ever published.

When I wrote that article, within a week, every member of my [COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund’s] scientific advisory board quit — there were 14 scientists from all over the United States and in different fields with different expertise. They said I was ‘an evil person’ and that they never wanted to talk to me again in their life.

I pleaded with them, saying, ‘Look, if I’ve got the analysis wrong, then tell why can’t you tell me where I got it wrong.’ And they wouldn’t say anything. They just said, the vaccines are safe and I should be ashamed of myself.”

Kirsch also created and submitted a 177-page PDF slideshow to the October 26, 2021, VRBPAC hearing, titled, “Questions About the COVID Vaccine.”2 It’s an absolute treasure trove of information and I would encourage you to review this great resource that he is updating in real time.

VAERS Data Likely Off by Factor of 41

In his video, “Vaccine Secrets: COVID Crisis,”3 the first episode of “The False Narrative Takedown Series,” Kirsch explains how to estimate COVID jab mortality, which he and a team of statisticians have done based on a variety of sources, including but not limited to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS).

Kirsch estimates VAERS reporting is off by a factor of 41, and that anywhere from 150,000 to 300,000 Americans have died from the COVID shots.

“We looked at eight different ways and VAERS is just one of the ways. So, when people say, ‘You can’t use VAERS for this, you can’t [calculate] causality [based on VAERS data], I’m saying, ‘Fine. We got the same answer using seven other ways.

In the VAERS analysis, we determined that VAERS was under-reported by a factor of 41, which is quite reasonable … Ten years ago we had a system where we could actually discover all the unreported things in VAERS, and they discovered VAERS was severely underreported by as much as 95 times. Vaccines that we thought were safe, they’re not safe at all. So, what did they do? They killed the project.

So, the reason that we have such a bad system today is that it is intentional. If we had a good system, it would show all the flaws for all of these vaccines that we’ve been giving people.”

The system is clearly intentionally designed from a technical standpoint to radically decrease the number of cases entered. It takes more than 30 minutes to complete a single report and you can’t save it until completed, so if you walk away and get timed-out, you have to start all over.

Kirsch knows a neurologist in California who claims to have 2,000 COVID jab-injured patients (out of a client base of 20,000), but she’s only filed two reports to VAERS. She doesn’t have time for the rest. So, she’s under-reporting by a factor of 1,000. Also, while doctors are required by law to file adverse event reports, there’s no enforcement, and no punishment for not filing.

It is also important to note that no one is paid to enter this data. That could be a part time job for most clinicians, were they to responsibly report all the side effects and deaths.


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  1. Go with your basic instincts, logic, and what the good Lord gave you.
    https://www.fromrome.info/2021/02/14/why-submitting-to-the-scamdemic-is-contrary-to-faith-in-christ/

    Twenty-seven reasons to avoid the Jab:
    1. NO need for global vaccinations (survival rate is 99% & death rate 0.5%)
    2. Genetically modified technology (mRNA & rDNA) never before used on humans
    3. Similar technology used in developing bioweapons
    4. Vaccines companies funded by DOD, DARPA, DTRA/partnered with China
    5. Chinese military linked with US in vaccine research and development
    6. Most vaccine companies investigated for fraud or crimes
    7. Vaccines did not go through proper testing protocols and are unsafe
    8. Vaccines have undisclosed ‘patented’ ingredients
    9. Vaccines will be used for rapid global depopulation
    10. Vaccines use insect, mammalian, or plant mRNA platforms
    11. Original DNA will be altered which causes mutations, cancers, etc.
    12. Vaccines can cause severe side effects and deaths to millions
    13. Vaccines will usher in trans-humanism (merging technology with humans)
    14. Capabilities to genetically modify human sexual composition/non-genders
    15. All vaccine companies are part of Agenda 2030/The Great Reset
    *16. Vaccine manufacturers are legally exempted from all liability
    17. Vaccines are potentially cytotoxic (cell damage or cell death)
    18. Pollution from synthetic man-made materials disrupt cellular function
    19. Forceful reprogramming of human body functions via mRNA technology
    20. Over stimulation of the immune system
    21. Modification of the racial gene (possible extermination of certain races)
    22. Dangerous pathological immune reactions
    23. Behavioral and mood modifications
    24. Vaccine recipients will be tracked for two (2) years by Operation Warp Speed 25. Connected to digital ID for global surveillance
    26. Synchronization with artificial intelligence through Nanotechnology
    27. Questionable stability on storage and dispensing vaccine

  2. I know one elderly person who was vaccinated and promptly stroked. He was relatively healthy and is now in a death spiral. I know of several middle age men who died shortly after the vaccine, heart attacks

  3. In response to the claim that the so called Covid “Vaccines” did not meet the long established definition of what a “Vaccine” is, the CDC deliberately CHANGED the definition of Vaccine to suit their narative. The Covid-19 fiasco is a planned and malicious crime against humanity. The Covid virus was bio-engineered using US taxpayer funds and it is the “Vaccine” itself that is causing DEATHS and other very severe repercussions. This is the subject of an ongoing complaint I have registered in the International Criminal Court in the Hague. There is ample evidence to conclude that China, as well as the US, have engaged in criminal acts contrary to the Nuremberg protocols and other international treaties against unlawful experimentation on Humans. Furthermore, it was deliberate and illustrates a depraved indifference for human life on this planet. It is a mass extermination effort by deep state globalists. Why has Pfizer asked the US government to protect them from disclosing their statistics on the Vaccine until 2076? Why is such a request even being entertained by the USA?

  4. “150,000 to 300,000 Americans have died from the COVID shots.”

    Do the monthly total of deaths in US show this increase like the 2020 data showed the increase in deaths from Covid-19?

    Kirsch also seems obsessed with the Gavin Newsom injured by booster conspiracy.

  5. I believe it. I’ve called my congressman’s office many times a week and leave the question, “how many people have to die before congress steps in for the American people?” In 1976 the swine flu vaccine killed 25 people and it was shut down. Now we are exceeding 18,000 dead Americans unnecessarily, and over 800,000 injured by the shot and all we hear is silence? Why is congress silent and the senate?