“PEOPLE NEED TO GO TO JAIL”
by Sharon Rondeau
Page, who appeared as Bartiromo’s last guest, in turn revealed that he has been an unpaid source of information to the FBI and CIA for “decades.” He was “targeted,” as Bartiromo put it, by a Yahoo! News article in September 2016, after which the FBI and Justice Department applied for surveillance warrants on the grounds that he was acting as an agent of the Russian government.
Meadows’s interview begins at 18:35 in the YouTube rebroadcast, first speaking about the agreement reached Friday night between the U.S. and Mexico to stop the flow of tens of thousands of “migrants” over the border between the two nations and the trade agreement among Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, the “USMCA.”
At 21:10, Bartiromo raised the “investigating the investigators” topic relating to the origins of the Russia “collusion” narrative against the Trump campaign and administration.
An initial FBI counterintelligence probe into the campaign was eventually folded into the investigation completed in March by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team, which concluded there was insufficient evidence to believe that anyone in the campaign, or any American, conspired with the Russian government to change the outcome of the 2016 election.
Meadows responded to Bartiromo by stating, “We’re starting to find out some of the conclusions and actually some of the facts that they put forth in there are a misrepresentation of what we actually know,” referring to reporting last week by John Solomon of The Hill. “It seems like all roads lead to Russia in the Mueller report and actually, what we’re seeing in the evidence doesn’t suggest that.”
Meadows said that rather than focusing on “Russia,” “they went after the President of the United States. That’s all going to come out.”
He then said that he has seen documentation revealing that former Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, “and others at the FBI knew that Christopher Steele’s dossier was not credible, and they did a rush to make sure that they could actually surveil him. That will come out, because there’s a cover-up that happened within certain realms at the FBI.”
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McCabe was terminated in March 2018, with Strzok following last August. As veteran FBI employees, both had testified that they performed their work without political bias.
Bartiromo replied that “We are facing a big week in terms of the revelation of some of this stuff,” then asked Meadows if the documents to be released imminently include those which Trump gave Attorney General William Barr authority to declassify.
Meadows confirmed that “additional documents” will be released this coming week, although he did not confirm they will be among those which require declassification.
In transcripts from closed-door interviews with FBI and DOJ figures involved in the “Russia” probe, members of Congress revealed that Page was not the only individual placed under some type of surveillance. In addition, the names of former Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos; the president’s first national security advisor, Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (Ret); and short-term Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort were all invoked by both Democrat and Republican questioners as having been the subjects of data-collection.
Whether or not all were the targets of FISA warrants remains an open question, although Papadopoulos has stated on many occasions that he is certain they were. Both on Twitter and in his book, “Deep State Target,” Papadopoulos stated that a member of the mainstream news media claimed to have seen the FISA warrant application bearing his name.
On last Thursday’s “Hannity,” Meadows described Papadopoulos as “innocent” of “collusion” with Russians and maintained that the FBI was aware of that fact even as they questioned the 29-year-old without an attorney present and later arrested him at the airport upon a return trip from Greece.
Papadopoulos ultimately accepted a “guilty” plea with the Justice Department on one count of lying to the FBI, although in his book he wrote that had he not faced the threat of an “obstruction” charge and 25 years in prison, he would have chosen differently.
In a following segment, Meadows suggested that “transcripts” not yet released could show Papadopoulos to have been innocent of any intrigue with Russia.
Having been a guest on the show some weeks ago, Bartiromo played a clip from that interview wherein Papadopoulos denied having told anyone in the campaign about a claim made to him by Joseph Mifsud in April 2016 that the “Russians” had Hillary Clinton’s emails in their possession.
As she had on previous shows, Bartiromo asked, “Will we see accountability?”
Meadows responded that he is frequently asked the same question by his constituents. “The answer is ‘Yes.’ Bill Barr is serious about making sure that we reset and reestablish the reputation of the FBI and the Department of Justice…unless someone actually goes to jail, most of the people will think that accountability didn’t happen. But I believe, based on the documents I’ve seen, that crimes were committed, and people need to go to jail.”
Meadows then revealed that based on his understanding that “additional information” has been presented to Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s office, the release of a report on possible FISA “abuse” this month will likely be delayed for “a while.”