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by Sharon Rondeau

Maricopa County, AZ Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo

(Oct. 3, 2014) — Radio show host Peter Boyles said at 10:02 a.m. EDT that “we really are headed in the right direction” in regard to an interview of Carl Gallups on September 23 in which Boyles heatedly told Gallups, “I don’t know who you are” and discredited his statements regarding the Maricopa County, AZ Cold Case Posse‘s investigation of Obama’s long-form birth certificate.

On Friday, Boyles characterized Zullo as having garnered much “attention” through the investigation.

On September 23, Boyles and Col. Lawrence Sellin, his co-host, frequently interrupted Gallups, who was attempting to explain the progress the posse had made.  Sellin and Boyles had called Gallups’ claim of being a confidante of Zullo’s “preposterous” and the investigation “hopeless.”

Last Friday, Boyles hosted former Cold Case Posse member Brian Reilly, who discredited Zullo as having been properly deputized by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Zullo said that many people have contacted members of Congress and “muddied the waters” with disinformation.

“At some point, I’m hoping in the very near future to release” new information on the birth certificate investigation, Zullo said.  “This document should never have been proffered…”

Zullo said that the “mandate” of the investigation is to determine how and why the “document” was created.  He said that investigators do not know where Obama was born.

Zullo pointed out that the Obama regime never “goes into court with the document.”  “That’s telling,” he said.

Boyles asked for “agreement” among “the three of us” about the birth certificate, asking Zullo and Gallups if it were a forgery.  Gallups said he believed it was, and Zullo said, “absolutely.”  Boyles then asked about Obama’s purported Social Security number from Connecticut, to which Zullo stated that “the evidence doesn’t go there,” meaning to the level of probable cause that the number is fraudulent.

Zullo explained that similarly, the failure of Obama’s name and purported Social Security number through the E-Verify system “is not probable cause” to believe that his Social Security number is fraudulent.  “I have to have the evidence that builds the ladder that gets me to the top,” Zullo said.  “We just don’t have the legal amount of evidence to be used in a criminal investigation,” he explained regarding the Social Security number.

Boyles differentiated between “belief” and “knowledge.”  At 10:16 a.m., however, Boyles again asked Zullo if he “believed” Obama’s Social Security number were valid.  Zullo then differentiated between speculation and evidence.

At 10:17, Zullo said that Boyles’s interview of Reilly last week “slandered” Gallups and him.

Boyles then said that the issue of Obama’s authenticity is reported by just a few sources which he said include Dr. Jerome Corsi, “The Obama Timeline” author Don Fredrick, and himself.

Zullo repeated his praise of Fredrick, whose work he termed “phenomenal.”  Zullo respects Fredrick for stating when he is speculating.  “I’ve used Don’s work in our investigation,” Zullo revealed.

Boyles indicated at 10:21 that he understood the difference between “belief” and “the scientific method” in proving that certain things are true or false.

Boyles then asked Gallups, “Who is Barack Obama?” to which Gallups responded, “…we do know that he [Obama] was raised in a Sunni Muslim background…”  Gallups then said, “That’s my opinion; I could be wrong.”

Zullo answered the question, “I don’t believe he is who he claims to be…”

Zullo then said that he “has some issues” with the claim that Stanley Ann Dunham is Obama’s mother.

Gallups then said to Boyles that there is no U.S. hospital that has claimed Obama’s birth.

At 10:25 a.m., Boyles thanked Zullo and Gallups for doing the interview and indicated that he would have them back “in two weeks.”

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  1. Why bother reporting this anymore? Evidence vs. speculation on and on. Well, the “evidence” says this ain’t never gonna happen. The fat lady will never sing. Go ahead and drop the curtain.