Conclusion of The Post & Email’s Interview with Atty. Stephen Pidgeon on Obama Articles of Impeachment

“WE EITHER ACT, OR WE LOSE THE NATION”

by Sharon Rondeau

(Aug. 10, 2014) — In an interview with The Post & Email on the Articles of Impeachment issued by the North American Law Center (NALC), lead attorney Stephen Pidgeon stated that “grassroots support” is needed to move them into the House Judiciary Committee.

The U.S. Constitution provides for the accusation, trial and removal from office in the event of conviction for federal officers, including the president and commander-in-chief. Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution states:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

In Part 1, Pidgeon told The Post & Email that NALC’s goal in issuing the Articles of Impeachment is to “drive the moral imperative to the House of Representatives to do the right thing.”

Pidgeon also stated that Obama “trained, financed, funded and and armed ISIS,” the barbaric radical Islamic group which has murdered innocent men, women and children in the most heinous of ways in ethnic cleansing on a level not seen since Hitler’s conquering of Europe in the early 1940s.

Pidgeon said he has been in touch with Douglas Vogt, who filed a petition which ultimately reached the U.S. Supreme Court asking for a grand jury review of evidence he compiled on the forgery of Obama’s long-form birth certificate.  Pidgeon said that he believes Vogt’s filing was “extremely important to an investigator” into Obama’s background and documentation.

Pidgeon said he has also “had some discussions with Mike Zullo,” who is the lead investigator of the Maricopa County, AZ Cold Case Posse, which, after six months of investigation, found that Obama’s long-form birth certificate and Selective Service registration form are “computer-generated forgeries.”

In 2011, Pidgeon wrote “The Obama Error,” which he described as “primarily an affidavit of probable cause.”  “It goes through the litany of offenses that have been committed,” Pidgeon told us.  “Back then, I was able to establish that the initial COLB, before he got into the long-form birth certificate, also qualified as an impeachable offense.  Mispersonation under the federal statute is a serious felony.”

Pidgeon believes that “Obama” began using the name by which he is currently known as a young adult.

In Part 2, Pidgeon told us that he spoke with a former CIA operative who knew Obama in 1981 and had knowledge of when and why Obama adopted a new identity.  Pidgeon said that at that point, Obama’s past was “scrubbed” at an “extraordinary level” to hide the fact that he is a Muslim, among other things.

Obama’s admittance into Harvard Law School is of particular interest to Pidgeon.  He believes that Obama’s Harvard education was funded by Saudis to prepare a “Muslim candidate” for the presidency in order to satisfy U.S. creditors, among them Saudi Arabia.  “We know that there’s a direct link between Sheikh Alwaleed bin Talal and the funding of Obama going into Harvard. Sheikh bin Talal funded $25,000,000 for an Islamic study center, and the demand that was made on the back side of that advance was that a certain person would be admitted into Harvard Law School, ” Pidgeon said.

He continued:

The person who was advancing some of this was Khalid al-Mansour, the founder of the Black Panthers, who had converted [to Islam], and he was the one who developed the relationship with Sheikh bin Talal.  If you look closely at Mr. Obama’a record when he was in Chicago prior to his rise to power with the Democrats, back in the days when he was a Socialist Workers Party candidate, you’ll find out that he spent most of his time fundraising for the PLO and other hard Islamic groups that were operating in the Levant.  That’s what his prior record looks like.  He wasn’t a community organizer; he was a fundraiser for Islamic groups.

In all fairness, my review of Obama’s record during the ’90s does not indicate that he ever crossed the line where he was actually raising funds for prohibited organizations.  There’s nothing that shows that he raised funds, for instance, for Hamas Hezbollah, or some of the other well-known jihadi organizations which are strictly prohibited under federal law.  But there was no question that he was raising money for Islamic groups including Al-Fatah that would advance a claim against Israel, which was the brunt of his focus throughout all of the 1990s.

“Is there documentation of these claims which no one else has yet seen?”

I wouldn’t say no one else has seen it.  I’ve provided all of the documentation of that in “The Obama Error.”  There is documentation behind every one of the claims in the Articles of Impeachment. Some of it includes live testimony; some of it is documented fact.  Most of the documentation that has been produced in this regard, however, it well-substantiated, well-known documentation.  You don’t have to go far to find the record, because people don’t care about the record anymore.

“In the event that the House of Representatives hasn’t seen the documents you have, if they saw them, would it be enough to convince even the most recalcitrant congressman to vote for impeachment?”

No, because, of course, a congressman thinks in terms of political ramification.  They don’t think in terms of legal ramification.  It’s a political issue, not a legal issue, at least until somebody is arrested.  You can rest assured that no one at the Justice Department is going to arrest anybody on these issues; that simply won’t happen. You’re asking Mr. Holder to go in and raid the hen house, and he’s not going to do it.

A lot of this documentation is preexisting, well-known material.  To give you an example, the documentation concerning Fast & Furious: Congress has already taken testimony from an ATF agent who went “whistleblower” and explained to them what was happening.  So Congress knows everything that took place in Fast & Furious:  the fact that there were thousands of weapons, including over 35 50-caliber sniper rifles that were delivered in a so-called sting operation to Mexican drug cartels.  They know that; that was given in live testimony before Congress.  And those weapons were later used to kill American border agents and other Mexicans in Mexico City.  So they really cannot avoid the reality that is before them.  In order for them to avoid it, it has to do with snickering and sneering in arrogance against the American people and saying, “We don’t care what you think.  We don’t care what you think, we don’t care what you want…we are your masters, and we’re telling you what to do, how to think, and when to think it.”  That is the approach.  This is something that Americans have to deal with.  As I mentioned on the [Erik Rush “Full Contact”] show, we’re not here to stir up any kind of a rat’s nest; we’re just asserting the truth of the statement:  “These are the federal laws that have been violated by this president.”  It’s very straightforward stuff.

“And that’s outside of the identity fraud.”

The criminal identity fraud is, of course, first and foremost.  We had long discussions to take care of that particular set of laws.  If you say “the emperor has no clothes,” then you have to first suffer the slings and arrows of ridicule from people who believe that he does have clothes.  That has happened, but nonetheless, when we have a president who has undeniably usurped the power of the office, how can you possibly look at the other crimes he’s committed without addressing the elephant in the room?

“Does Congress know that he’s committed identity fraud?”

Yes, they do.  In many cases, they’ve heard from the CIA directly about what kind of uncovering will happen in the event that they come forward and say anything about what has happened.  The identity fraud is the clearly provable path.  We could sit and argue the esoterics of whether or not he’s a “natural born Citizen” of Article II, Section 1, clause 5 going back to the [John] Jay decision and what was the expectation of citizenship compared to the 14th Amendment.  I’ve been down that path a million times, and there’s nothing wrong with that path.

“Because someday we should know exactly what the founders meant by the term, although I think a lot of us know.”

I think we do, too. But the thing is that that’s not the issue here.  The issue is that whatever it is Obama has produced is forged.  That is a significant issue, because when you file a forged long-form birth certificate for purposes of obtaining a federal job, you have committed a serious federal felony.  That’s on the table.

“They would never have let Richard Nixon get away with something like this.”

Remember, Richard Nixon was expelled for political reasons.  This isn’t a question of politics anymore; it’s a question of the survival of the United States.  I think it’s really important for your readers to understand that the reason he has gotten away with this is because of an underlying contractual obligation into which certain people entered without the provision or disclosure to the people of the United States in order to further their own personal political careers.  Once you can see that, now you know why they can’t let him go; why he is “golden,” if you will.

“So they’re pretending to represent their constituents, but there are other things that are paramount.”

Oh, absolutely.  Their pocketbook is paramount; their political career, their pocketbook, and in some cases, their deals.  Now some people might argue, “If we hadn’t done this, the Saudis wouldn’t have continued to buy our debt.”  That’s one way of negotiating.  But what if we had actually charged the Saudis for what it had cost us to mount a defense on their behalf in Kuwait?

“Then there wouldn’t have been any debt.”

Right.  So somebody has been cooking the books, saying, “You owe us money for the service you provided us.”  I like it; I like the thinking.

“It’s interesting that you said Obama has ties to the Saudis.  On one of his shows within the last two months, Carl Gallups, who has been very close to the Cold Case Posse’s investigation, said, ‘We know that Obama comes from a deep Sunni background.’  Then his son Brandon said, ‘And we know that he has ties to Saudi Arabia.’  So you’re saying a lot of the same things they’re saying.”

Sure.  The reason I’m saying them is not because I have evidence, but because it can be readily deduced from the history.  It’s well in the public record that this funding came forward from Sheikh bin Talal.  You may say, “That’s not an indication that Obama is actually Muslim; that’s just an indication that he had some funding help from a particular Arab sheikh.”  OK, now let’s add that to the fact that he was born Muslim; let’s add that to the fact that he has a ring with the Shahada on his finger; let’s add that to the fact that he now has seven members of the Muslim Brotherhood sitting in cabinet positions in the White House…at some point, you have to say, “Gee, I wonder if he’s Muslim?”

“Given all of this, in your opinion, can this situation be rectified?”

The answer is:  This is why we introduced the Articles of Impeachment.  We have reached that point in American history where we either act, or we lose the nation.  It’s really that simple.  There’s really not anything more involved than that.  We either act, or the nation is gone.  If we’re going to act, we need to act lawfully, and the lawful pursuit of action for all Americans is an impeachment methodology.

I’m not interested in arguing if impeachment is the correct methodology:  just do it.

“A lot of people say, ‘He’s not eligible, so he can’t be impeached.’  But perhaps his eligibility would become clearer if we could get discovery.”

You don’t have to worry about any of that.  He has been sworn into office; therefore, he holds the position by color of title.  If he holds the position by color of title, you cannot exercise a different method against him.  You are required to bring Articles of Impeachment, because otherwise, he has sovereign immunity.

This is why that whole argument is moot.  What needs to be done is he needs to be charged with high crimes and misdemeanors.

“Constitutionally, is there an option whereby if impeachment were to happen this summer, Sen. Harry Reid could refuse to hold a trial in the Senate for political reasons?”

He could, although our position is that Harry Reid is disqualified, because he has been shown to what arguably could be considered a co-conspirator to keep the identity of Mr. Obama a secret from the American public.  We would demand his recusal.  He cannot do anything because he’s somebody who is going to be criminally named in this action.

“Are the Articles of Impeachment with the House Judiciary Committee?”

Not yet.  What we’re asking for is help in disseminating the information.  You know the website of the North American Law Center.  We are trying to get a grassroots movement so that people can download the Articles and then forward them to their congressmen.  It’s a very straightforward process.  If people say, “It can’t be done,” then it won’t be done.

“We know that some members of Congress say they want impeachment.  Rep. Steve King said that it will happen if Obama keeps issuing executive orders, and Rep. Steve Stockman said that Obama is ‘begging to be impeached.’  So it’s not as if it hasn’t been on some of their minds.”

It won’t be long now before the truth surfaces, and the truth will prevail.  That is, as you might imagine, an extremely big deal, because once the truth comes out and people say, “We know what the truth is now,” it’s not subject to a debate, and it’s not subject to somebody else calling you a name.  I think most Americans who have any sense of alertness whatsoever are well aware of the fact that we are on the verge of completely losing the nation.  I think that’s a big driver for people and that if they take steps to contact their congressmen with these Articles, we will be able to move forward.