Update with Video: Presidential Candidate: Meeting with Sheriff Joe Arpaio Yielded “Devastating” Information


by Sharon Rondeau

Presidential Candidate John Dummett and Van Irion, founder of Liberty Legal Foundation, met with Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his staff on December 5, 2011, during which the eligibility of Barack Obama was discussed. From left to right are Dummett's wife Karmi; John Dummett, Presidential Candidate (R); Sheriff Joe Arpaio; Dummett Campaign Manager William Odom; and Van Irion, Founder and Attorney for Liberty Legal Foundation

(Dec. 9, 2011) — On December 5, 2011, Presidential Candidate John Dummett of California recently traveled 789 miles to Maricopa County, AZ and back to meet with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been conducting an investigation into questions surrounding the presidential eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

Dummett and Van Irion, founder of Liberty Legal Foundation, have partnered in filing a lawsuit against the Democrat National Committee to stay the nomination of Obama as its candidate for the presidential election.

“Our meeting with Sheriff Arpaio was scheduled for 1:30 in the afternoon, and the Tea Party meeting was at 6:30 that evening.  We got to Joe Arpaio’s office, and his secretary met us at the door.  She said, ‘Ladies and gentlemen, I’m sorry to tell you, but the sheriff can give you only 20 minutes of his time.’  We were more than  happy with that.  Well, we got to his office, and he had the lead investigator of his 300-man posse there.  It’s called the Cold Case Posse.  Several other investigators assigned to the case were there as well.  Arpaio was intrigued by Van Irion’s and my approach of going after the DNC and not attacking Barack Obama or asking any court to decide Obama’s eligibility.  The idea blew them away.  It went over so well that he got several other members in there.  He took copies of everything, including the complaint , and we discussed all of the issues.  He told us things that I still have to hold in confidentiality.  I can say, because it has already been released to the press and I can verify it, that he will produce a report in February, and it will be devastating.  I can’t say what it is, but I know what it is.”

When we asked Dummett if the “devastating” part of Arpaio’s future report was communicated in written or verbal form, he was not at liberty to answer.

Instead of being there for only 20 minutes, we were there speaking with him for an hour and a half.  I was then asked to be an expert witness on the birth certificate issue, and I agreed to do that.”

The Post & Email asked, “Is that because you have a background in document analysis or something similar?” and Mr. Dummett replied, “I’m a computer programmer staff analyst for the California Department of Fish & Game.  I’m an expert at the staff level at building databases and dealing with computer-generated documents.  I figured out that the birth certificate Obama presented was a phony right after I saw it, because I understand how Adobe works because I have to use that and the applications which I built for the state of California.  I would have laughed except that I wanted to cry more because people were actually accepting it as real. It was an insult to anyone’s intelligence.  They were relying on people not knowing how applications are built of how documents are stored electronically or put together.

“So we’ll be working with him on a continuing basis.  There is no doubt in my mind that we will be successful.  I believe that Sheriff Joe is doing this for the people of Maricopa County, which he represents, as he should be.  He is the only law enforcement official who has actually stood up and done something about the eligibility issue.  He told me, ‘I owe the people of Maricopa County the truth.  Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.’  If it benefits the rest of the United States, fine, but his primary concern was with the people of Maricopa County.  Who wouldn’t want a sheriff like that?

“After that, we left for the Tea Party meeting.  There were a couple of speakers, and then Van got up and spoke about the Liberty Legal Foundation and what we’re doing.  Then I got to speak with the group.  There will be a video coming out of the event soon.  Joe Arpaio actually ended up at the Tea Party meeting unannounced.  The meeting was supposed to go from 6:30 to 8:30; we were there until 10:30 or 11:00 p.m., and then Joe showed up!  In the meantime, I explained what we were going to do:  going after the DNC and not Obama.

We were talking about impeachment and why that is not something we want to do with Barack Obama, and here’s the reason why:  I’m a scholar, but not in constitutional law; my degree is in archaeology and history.  However, my attorney is an expert in that area.  The reason is that impeachment is redress only for a legally- elected president.

The Post & Email said, “There’s been a lot of controversy about that, as you may know,” and Dummett responded:

There shouldn’t be any controversy, because the law is clear.  Impeachment isn’t a conviction; impeachment is when they have a trial for the sitting president, and the Senate decides whether or not he’s guilty.  If he’s found guilty, he’s thrown out of office, and he can’t hold office anymore; that’s it.  If we impeach him and he gets off – and we know he will because he’s appointed two people to the Supreme Court – it will go to the Supreme Court, and those women will not recuse themselves.  They haven’t recused themselves from the Obamacare lawsuits, and they should be.  So they’re most certainly not going to recuse themselves over the impeachment of Obama.  So if he gets off scot-free, then everything he’s done is set in stone; we’ve set precedent, and that means that anybody who was born outside of this country can come over here and be president.  He could say he was born on Mars, and we’d be stuck with it because precedence has already been set. For some silly reason, this country abides by precedent just about every time.  So we don’t want to do that.

We then discussed whether or not Obama is guilty of treason and the possible penalties.  I have not accused Barack Obama of treason, although others have.  That doesn’t mean that I don’t have my suspicions.  Everyone is entitled to due process of law.  Regarding his birth certificate, he hasn’t shown anyone any certification, so I feel quite confident being able to say that he’s a usurper.  I’m sure he’s hiding something, but I’m not going to accuse him of treason at this time.

Historically, treason has been punishable by death.  One person was upset and thought I was being “too aggressive in defending the Constitution.”  I don’t think that is being overly aggressive, because what these people are doing to us now is going to affect our grandchildren and their children, and they’re going to be paying for it.  They’re trying to destroy the United States.  If you look up the definition of treason, although I’m not accusing Obama of treason, if you wanted to make the case for it, there’s be a pretty good case.

The mainstream press was at the meeting, including the largest newspaper in Maricopa County, The Sonoran News.  Joe Arpaio got a standing ovation after he spoke about the investigation he is doing.

The next morning, we headed over to the DNC at around 9:00.  We walked into the office; there was an older guy playing video games.  There was a bearded individual whom we approached and asked if he worked for the organization, and he said “yes.”  So we served him the papers.  My wife was filming the whole time, and he said, “Well, she’s filming.”  And the guy asked, “Well, am I being served?” and we said, “We’re serving the Democrat Party.  Make sure you get this to your superiors.”  And he said, “What’s entailed in the suit?” and we said, “Please read it; everything is in there; make sure to get it to your superiors.”

A lot of people don’t understand that the server doesn’t have to put it in your hand.  You don’t have to take exact possession of it.  A lot of people think that if they refuse to touch it or they throw it on the ground, they haven’t been served.  That is not the law.  Once an officer of the court, which Van is, handed it to them, they had been served.

So we walked out, got into my car and were getting ready to head to the airport when I saw out of the corner of my eye three people approach the car.  A tall lady started beating on my window and almost broke it, saying, “You can’t serve us.  You handed that paper to a volunteer, and that wasn’t legal service!”  Van was in the back and he said, “Ma’am, you have been served.”  So she took the paper, flopped it on the ground, and walked away.

“Did you get her name?”

No, but we have her on videotape (laughs).  They were quite violent about it.  It’s a lawsuit; it wasn’t against them; it’s enjoining the DNC not to certify anybody until they come up with the proof.  That means anybody, not just Barack Obama, although we know Barack Obama can’t come up with any certification.

Dummett stated that he has appeared on several radio shows since the meeting with Arpaio and will be appearing on Dr. James David Manning’s radio show and many others in the near future.  “People have to know that I’m a viable alternative, fighting as hard as I can for their constitutional rights.  People have to get off the kick that if someone hasn’t been elected to something else, they’re unfit for the presidency.  You will never know…it doesn’t say in the Constitution ‘You shall be a senator first…’ They wanted citizen legislators.”

Dummett believes that his team can obtain an expedited hearing because Obama has already filed to be on the ballot in the state of New Hampshire, whose presidential primary is January 10, 2012.  Dummett and Irion have filed suit in that state as well as with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals asking for the criteria the DNC is using to define “natural born Citizen.”

“From what I understand, they have 30-45 days to answer our complaint, which includes Pelosi, Wasserman-Schultz, Reid, the DNC and the courts in Washington, DC and Tennessee.  We filed suit in New Hampshire and in Arizona with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which in dicta said that a presidential candidate would have standing to bring forth a suit in court.”

We asked Dummett if, because he has not yet received his party’s nomination, he has standing to sue, and he responded:

The incumbent president is always the person you run against.  I’m not the nominee, but I’m a candidate.  The court didn’t say that the nominee had standing; it said that a candidate did.  No one should have to waste any resources trying to figure out how to defend against Barack Obama, because he’s not eligible to be there.

Regarding the size and scope of the current federal government, Dummett commented:

There are 100 senators and 435 congressmen, the Supreme Court, and around 160,000,000 people who are available to vote in this country.  Why are they in charge?  Because we can’t all decide just to get up there and say, “Enough is enough” and put our foot down.  And they know we won’t.  Because everybody thinks that their congressman is a good guy because in the past he’s done something good for them.  We live in a world where people think they are entitled from womb to tomb.

I don’t want anything from the federal government.  There are 18 things the federal government can do; the rest belongs to the states.  Many people seem to look at it as “What’s in it for me?” instead of thinking about what are we going to give the generations that come after us.  What are we leaving them?  What are we bequeathing to our posterity?  What we’re bequeathing is a shattered, destroyed state which should last at least 1,000 years; Rome did.  Rome was a republic.

As Cicero said, the enemy is not outside the gates.  The real enemy is the one who walks among us.  He speaks our language and knows everything about us.  That’s the real enemy.  That’s our own government.  It’s not the people outside such as the Chinese or the terrorists.  It’s the tyrannical government.

I’m  running as a Republican, but I’m a constitutionalist.  I’m going to stick with this.  I’m going to keep working at it, but if it ever comes down to the point where we all realize that we no longer live in a representative republic, then we will have to look at other methods to restore our country.


Editor’s Note:  A video of the service of the lawsuit upon the DNC is here.

Sharon Rondeau has operated The Post & Email since April 2010, focusing on the Obama birth certificate investigation and other government corruption news.  She has reported prolifically on constitutional violations within Tennessee’s prison and judicial systems.

22 Responses to "Update with Video: Presidential Candidate: Meeting with Sheriff Joe Arpaio Yielded “Devastating” Information"

  1. BlackSunshine84   Tuesday, January 31, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Isn’t the sheriff putting himself in undue danger by waiting for February to release his report?

  2. Donna   Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM

    How Many SOS’s were voted out in 2010? Brunner was, here in ohio,i voted for Husted because i felt like She didn’t do her job,and i will vote against Husted if he doesn’t do the job!

  3. gmiller   Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 5:06 AM

    Mr Dummett: Thanks for getting out there in front of the issue. Your common sense and informed statements on this topic are a marked contrast to those of the BIG seven remaining GOP candidates and certainly those of the Marxist Usurper squatting in The Peoples’ House.

    George Miller

  4. winnybar   Monday, December 12, 2011 at 9:39 PM

    Suggest you look at the facts of the Rosenberg spies in the 1950’s. They were executed. A foreigner isn’t committing treason but espionage. Obama is not speaking ‘our language’ but a poor form of broken English.

  5. Brendon Guiznot   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM

    Orly says on her website that to have standing, an opposing candidate has to actually make it on to the ballot. Has any challenger made it on the ballot yet?

  6. LaineyG   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 7:40 PM

    CORRECTION TO STATEMENT BY LAINEY G. Obama’s presidency does set precidence. He must NOT be allowed to serve another 4 years.

  7. LaineyG   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 7:37 PM

    God bless you Drummond for all you are doing. Please follow through and be successful because Obama’s presidency does set precident which means others who are not natural born citizens can surely follow his lead and there will be no end to the usurpers who will try to get control and take us down from within. Obama has already dimished America’s standing in the world and is delighting in his success at that. He must be stopped and must serve another 4 years if we are to survive as a free republic. I wish you every success and will pray for you.

  8. "Zeb"   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 6:36 PM

    The Georgia codes split hairs. My challenge has been sent to the judiciary for review as me v. Obama. My challenge is not against Obama;l it is against the SOS, so Monday I have to try to get it out of judiciary review and back to the SOS. The codes defer to the DNC for furnishing the name for the ballot. This code was established to direct the SOS on how and when to prepare the list of candidates.

    Another code specifies that the SOS will qualify all candidates. I am trying desperately to stay out of litigation because that’s a corrupt dead end. If I can keep it in the SOS office and make him comply with the law then I’ll have something. If I can’t get my challenge back from the judiciary it’s dead meat.

    Georgia codes are not that bad, if you can get the weasels to comply with them.

  9. The Obama Timeline author   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 1:31 PM

    Remember to keep up-to-date on all news related to the thug-in-chief, including the activities of Sheriff Arpaio, by reading The Obama Timeline. It is updated on a daily basis and can be found at: http://www.colony14.net/id155.html

  10. Rosemary   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 11:45 AM

    One good thing is that Sheriff Joe is doing this and he is pretty famous word will get around and get ppl informed. If enough states kick up a fuss we can hope that BHO will resign if he can’t win. I know wishful thinking but I can hope. But if he did resign, he would become a private citizen. Would we have plans in place to handcuff him and take him to Leavenworth? We can’t just let him walk away. Not ever!

  11. donna1948   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 4:49 AM

    Please, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, please use caution wherever you go…The DNC is not above being dirty..Please use extra care..We need you..I support you in what you are doing..The DNC needs to be accountable …John Dummett, the same goes for you, too. You are opening a big can of worms that needs to be opened but please be careful..GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

  12. KBB   Sunday, December 11, 2011 at 3:54 AM

    Thank you, John Dummett, for running as a presidential candidate in order to have standing to haul Obama into court. Good luck and God bless!

  13. Constitution   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 6:58 PM

    Keep that Badge polished, Joe!!
    Arizona is the State that has endured the slams from this guy and Arizona Americans deserve the honor to do this. March him to an Arizona Pen, with TRAITOR printed on his jumpsuit… and include the Mrs. as co-conspirator along with the DNC. Remember the Rosenbergs and how our country must deal with traitors.

  14. Constitution   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 6:50 PM

    Now why ever didn’t we do this before? The sooner this is instituted, the better. Go for the DNC. It’s THEIR responsibility to answer for enabling this commie to infiltrate our elected offices.

    We have been focused on the wrong target. Need to demand answers and proofs from DNC. Can’t wait for them to push Dean out for another shout-out to young people because this time, he’ll get no applause… they are wiser and angry and have risked time and health in misdirected protests and they now know it. Hope they resurge and smack down the covert troublemakers… the DNC and the DNC controllers like Soros and Clintoon.

  15. Donna   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 6:19 PM

    Watch your back Joe, you are on the &hit list now!!!

  16. Bob_Porrazzo   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 3:39 PM

    And also Dr. Vieira wrote an excellent article regarding standing and how much it is an excuse.


  17. DrJim77   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM

    @ Zeb…I reviewed the official NH website on POTUS qualifications. It does say that only a natural born citizen is eligible. However for republican and democratic canidates the NH SOS shall rely on the DNC and the RNC to certify canididates eligibility. IMHO John Dummet has the correct approach on this matter. Several State SOS were sued in 2008 and we know how that ended….

  18. BobSR   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM

    Quote from the article:

    ” so I feel quite confident being able to say that he’s a usurper. I’m sure he’s hiding something, but I’m not going to accuse him of treason at this time.”

    Seems to me like being a usurper is treason.

  19. Chris   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 2:05 PM

    February can’t come soon enough!

    In Febrary, when sheriff Joe’s report is submitted to support the case against DNC, I’d like to see how the courts can weasel out of it! It will be on time before the general election for the courts to order DNC enjoin certifying obama; without DNC certification the states cannot place his name on their ballots!
    They will most likely drag their feet, delay until it is too late.
    But we won’t let them! We will broadcast the report to the entire world. We will make sure the R candidates make use of the report to educate the voters that obama is ineligible and demand the states to remove obama’s name from their ballots.

  20. "Zeb"   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 1:50 PM

    This is good strategy, I think. It cuts thru a lot of the, he said, she said rhetoric. However Irion’s tactic only works to enjoin the DNC to not place a candidate which they have not qualified on the ballot. It’s a fish in the rain barrel game because the DNC quit certifying their presidential candidates in the last election.
    The game changes for folks in the early primary states whose ballots are set. For those states that have statutes mandating that their SOS qualify candidates the injunction must be applied to the SOS. And word smithing the challenging document with legal terms like injunction may not be the bright thing to do. The challenge is to the SOS not Obama or the court. Obama’s credentials are not relevant to the challenge. What is specifically and exclusively relevant is the misconduct of the SOS for placing a candidate on a ballot without qualifying him. Injunctive relief is sought for this misconduct; the relief being to remove the candidate from the ballot. The SOS is obliged to do that, by law. Then, if the SOS wishes to put him back on he must do the vetting, by law, as he was required to do in the first place. The court and judiciary have no involvement in this action.
    Playing the game in the cesspool that makes up the judiciary is asking for failure.

  21. JustThinking   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 12:15 PM

    Nice article. It concurs with what constitutional law expert Dr. Edwin Vieira said, “Congress cannot even impeach him because, not being the actual President, he cannot be “removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” (see Article II, Section 4). In that case, some other public officials would have to arrest him—with physical force, if he would not go along quietly—in order to prevent him from continuing his imposture…. Just about everything that was done during his faux “tenure in office” by anyone connected with the Executive Branch of the General Government, and quite a bit done by the Legislative Branch and perhaps the Judicial Branch as well, would be arguably illegitimate and subject to being overturned when a constitutional President was finally installed in office. ”

    So who is going to issue a warrant for his arrest, and who will be allowed to walk past the secret service to arrest the usurper Obama?

  22. Robert   Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    WOO-HOO! I have a good feeling about this. GOD BLESS JOHN DUMMETT.

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