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AND ALL OF THE OTHERS WHO REFUSE TO ADDRESS OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY

by One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet

Why didn't Sarah Palin take the Obama eligibility question seriously? Is she just another politician?

(Apr. 12, 2011) — The shame of it is, at one time she actually could’ve had a chance, but she’s burned too many bridges to be anything other than a discarded has-been, a sad case of waiting in the wings hoping beyond hope that the front-runners will stumble and fall and she’ll be resurrected as a Miss Liberty Phoenix. The truth is, she went down to Arizona and campaigned for the old geezer, the very same one who apologized for some announcer saying “Barack HUSSEIN Obama,” and then she kept quiet about the birth certificate while that’s all my wife and I talked about before the election in 2008.

I called one of the caucus members and asked her if she had any concerns about Obamas’ birth certificate in 2008, and she hung up on me. Now, two and a half years later, Sarah Palin may or may not jump on the “birther” bandwagon, now that it seems that it’s becoming a mainstream topic.

Too little and way, way too late, Sarah. Please don’t embarrass us by embarrassing yourself; just pack your bags and fade away forever, thank you. The American Dream was ready, able, and willing to embrace you, but you had to play politics, didn’t you? You had to play the game, but by playing the game you put yourself out of the game.

Oh, well, here today, gone tomorrow. It was fun while it lasted. Michele Bachmann is another one who could’ve, should’ve, but jumping on Donald Trump’s coattails is, as Palin, too little and way, way too late.

In a fire fight, when things go haywire in less than a heartbeat, you’ve got to take a stand; you’ve got to make a decision and follow it through, and you pray to God that you didn’t get anyone killed because you messed up. You have to keep thinking one, two, three steps ahead, all the time, and this jumping on the bandwagon to support the Constitution because it’s the flavor of the week just doesn’t cut it with this Vet, nohow, no way.

In my world, you step up to the plate and take a swing; that’s what’s expected and that’s exactly what you do. No shirking. No whining.  No second chances in real life, and politics in America today is as real as it gets. We’re fighting for the life and the continuation of the Constitution and, by default, the meaning of the United States. There’s no room on the bus for those who weren’t in line, and Bachmann and Palin weren’t even at the station. And while we’re at it, we might as well add Romney and Huckabee.

 

 

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Sovereign Soul
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:36 AM

Well said Vietnam Vet. I agree and would add this… No one seems to recall that, about 12 months before becoming the Republican candidate for POUS, HE was the pariah of the party! His RINO legislation — Amnesth for ILLEGAL ALIENS and his attack on our Constitution by authoring legislation that violates freedom of speech, his support for the North American Union & NAFTA, the UN and on and on. Then when there were ELEVEN Republicans running in the primary, one by one they were all eleminated and voila! #1 RINO is the party’s candidate!

IMO, the only reason he was selected was because he was so easily manipulated by the shadow government that controlls BOTH parties. BEFORE the election he actually said that “Obama would make a fine president!” — and dutiful, knee-jerk Republicans still voted for this guy as a “contender”??

So, this is about Sarah P. — does anyone recall that in January, 2010, in an interview with (I think) World Net Daily, she was asked about her relationship with John McCain — whose loss some had attributed to his selecting her as running mate, and she replied; “Oh, he and I are getting along just fine! I agree with him 100%!” Four months later she went on the campaignn trail with him in Arizona to reassure his reelection — again, by the “knee jerk” Republicans of that State. I’m amazed with the non-thinking of the AZ electorate — they return to office the SAME GUY who was the author of the Amnesty bill! All the while their State is being ridiculed for supporting Federal laws! Go figure.

I’ve read every comment preceeding this and most have very valid points that should be collated into one strong argument in support of a candidate that would stand a chance of election rather than being ‘just’ a spoiler — as was Ross Perot, and divide the results to assure that the imposter got re-elected which is a very real possibility.

IMO, EVERY member of Congress who has NOT advocated for the removal of this obvious usurper — who has not proven to be other than what he says he is — NOT QUALIFIED BECAUSE HE IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN — Born a Brit, is NOT legit!

Fran
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:36 AM

AuntieMadder, and others that believe we still have a two party system.
We have a one party system. It is us, the “stupid” (to them) taxpaying public, and the ruling class (the DC politicians and their “friends”). The Republicans are no better than the Democrats. They are allowing an illegal to run (ruin) our country. He has taken over industries, run the price of gas up, started a war without going to congress, put rules into affect even after they have been voted down (Climate Change and others).
If the Republicans truly cared about this country and the citizens they would have spoken up so loudly that they could not have been ignored.
We all need to get over this Republican and Democrat thing,.
As for experience. Having political experience has proven to be a big negative. If this statement was not true our country would be in great shape, as many have been in congress over 20 years. When the country was first born the president (Washington) and congress had no experience,. Did they do a bad job? No way.

AuntieMadder
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:31 PM

In a fire fight, when things go haywire in less than a heartbeat, you’ve got to take a stand; you’ve got to make a decision and follow it through, and you pray to God that you didn’t get anyone killed because you messed up.

I had a great deal of respect for Palin when I thought she was speaking her heart and mind, even on topics and statements with which I wasn’t in agreement with her. I felt like she was a woman who I could stand behind because she’d stand behind me as a citizen if she thought I was in the right. I thought she was the one I wanted with me in a (metaphorical) firefight because I could trust that, even if I didn’t make it, it wouldn’t be because she didn’t fight her best for me.

Now I see that she’s just another politician who worries most about her media image and what “they” might say about her.

In a discussion here at P&E News about the possibility of the members of Congress being threatened into silence, I said something about how if all of them together or even just all of them who were in opposition to Barky’s policies (which would have been mainly Republicans) united as one and told what they knew, including that they’d been threatened (if that had been the case, something I now doubt), that there would be no way to shut them up and no way to carry out any threats that had been made.

It’s growing more obvious day by day that there were no threats made against them that kept them quiet. The fear that rules them is fear of ridicule. They value their media images so much that they’re willing to watch this country go to hell in a hand basket before they’ll risk their images. The very moment that their media image will be improved by questioning Barky’s eligibility, they’ll each clamor, trample on one another, to be the first to go “birther” publicly via the enemedia. They sicken me.

Jon Carlson
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:28 PM

Sarah Palin was a bright star until she resigned from the Alaska governorship. Now she keeps saying she has to stick to the Nazi GOP platform written by Nazis. Her only hope is she speaks out on the ruination of America by the foreigners mainly from Germany and Obama. All speak broken English, that is Fifth grade level. Google their name add transcript such as John Kerry transcript and check it out. At least Sarah Palin is an American. McClain was born in Panama thus not eligible for the Presidency. Here is my collection of foreigners all supporting the Iraq War and all deny that 9/11 was a US Navy and Bush administration production:

GHW Bush B Bush B Clinton H Clinton B Obama
John Howard W Buffet Alex Jones R Murdoch T Blair
Volcker Bernanke Greenspan K Rove J Roberts
Hamburg (FDA) J Boehner N Pelosi J Kerry GW Bush
T. Geithner R Mueller

Murdoch heads fake news network Fox claiming he was born and raised in the UK and moved to Australia and then became a citizen of the US. Why does he speak broken English as both the UK and Australia speak English. Is he from Germany?

Thomas Morato
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:00 PM

OPVV… thank you to our service to the country. I also share your thoughts on SP and anyone at this point who had their chance to hammer Obama on this issue prior to the election but remained complicatedly silent.

I make no apologies for anyone, but the way the media, the government and the courts have behaved themselves on the issue… one can’t help but conclude “gag” orders were disseminated far and wide in 2007 to allow this A2S5C1 assault to succeed.

I want this issue resolved yesterday, but I question why the “gag” orders are now being lifted? What is the government’s plan and why now are they allowing these discussions in the MSM? Has it reached critical mass and will expose the truth or is this a way to get a third party candidate in place to throw the election to Obama once again?

ch
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:53 PM

I think “big oil” used McCain to pull Palin away from the oil fields of Alaska…tempted her with running for presidency. When she “lost”…as they knew she would, they heaped on lawsuits and ethics challenges to drive her out of office and with the other side of their mouth offered book deals to “help her cover costs.” She did not catch on. If she had stayed governor, and spoken out on the birth certificate, she would have a chance, but she cannot see when she is being flagrantly manipulated and used. They pulled her family into their ugly tricks. The media probably told her to speak out on any issue, but do not “bother with the side show” of birth certificate, and she fell for it. They probably said “all this exposure will ensure you a great chance at running again.” She fell for it. Trump sees the illegal COLB as the issue it is. They try to tell him it is “distracting”, “unimportant”.or “it will hurt his campaign and seriously hurt his chances.” He does not take the bait. He puts the problem back on Obama, not as himself. Just prove you are legiitmate or get out. Palin is not used to the verbal games and Trump seems very comfortable making his way through falsehoods without getting bothered. I love the way they keep interrupting him and he just quietly continues until they finally yield the floor back. He seems to be able to control the “negotiation.” Thank God he does not believe in killing babies. Maybe our prayers are working….thanks be to God.

DEO
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:21 PM

$arah is just a carny sideshow, doing the hoochy koochy to the tune of CHA-CHING.

ABN INF Trooper
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:20 PM

OP-O Vietnam War Veteran “First welcome Home” Thank You Very Much For Your Service to Our Country. With You 110% All The Way

Stephen Lumpkin
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:11 PM

It seems the fools that ignored her in At a campaign stop in Carson, Calif., Governor Sarah Palin lashed out at Senator Barack Obama’s ties to controversial figure Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. (Oct. 4, 2008 )
are the ones who are thinking she owes them something more today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3oP74kMjA

Palin says that the public’s question of President Obama’s birth certificate is a fair question to ask.
December 4th, 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veCMTKmnhIA

Palin: Trump Right on Obama Birth Probe
Sunday, 10 Apr 2011 10:32 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/SarahPalin-DonaldTrump-BarackObama-BirthCertificate/2011/04/10/id/392375

One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet
Reply to  Stephen Lumpkin
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:33 PM

Dear Stephen, Thank you for stating the obvious. And speaking of obvious, the point that I was OBVIOUSLY making was that Palin had her chance to step “out of the box”, so to speak, but instead remained like a good little Republican sheep (say “Baaaa Baaaa”) and followed the Republican game plan by supporting John “Old Geezer” McCain in his last bid for getting re-elected. McCain, as you may know, is what one can correctly say is a “has been”, he had his day, he had his chance, and he is, as others within his party, history.

Getting back to your Sarah: sorry, but she just doesn’t cut the mustard anymore. The Republican Party is over. Whether it was assimilated by the Democratic Party, or visa versa, years ago, the fact remains that, in reality, America has a one-party system and it’s not been a system of “by the people”, by any stretch of the imagination.

So, go ahead, Stephen, waste your time and resources supporting a “has-been”. If you really want to help your country, you’re going to have to step out of the box and get serious. It’s too bad that the McCain/Palin duo didn’t make the birth certificate an issue during the presidential race in 2008, but then they were just following orders, now, weren’t they?

thinkwell
Reply to  One Pissed-off Vietnam Vet
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:49 PM

Very sad to say, very well spoken. I grieve the loss of Sarah Palin. She still has a slim chance of redemption in my mind, but it would take an unabashed admission on her part of flat out error of judgment on the importance to this most basic tenet of the Constitution, the protective eligibility requirement to the office of the Presidency. Same goes for Bachmann and the other backsliders — I truly believe that they mostly have good hearts, but do they have the spine to be brave when it matters most?

AuntieMadder
Reply to  Stephen Lumpkin
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:49 PM

“It’s distracting. It gets annoying. Let’s stick with what really matters.” – Sarah Palin, February 17, 2011
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/sarah-palin-rejects-birthers-aka.html

Stephen Lumpkin, I adored Palin and was looking forward to casting my vote for her in 2012 but now it pains me to admit that Palin, like Bachmann, is worried more about her media image than what she believes to be right and so she looks to the enemedia for what to say on this issue. She’s really let me down, too, and it sucks.

Stephen Lumpkin
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:01 PM

Sarah Palin is the only one that can save this country from the muslim terrorist in the whitehouse.

David F LaRocque
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 2:20 PM

Right on bro!

Palin and Bachmann had a chance to show real courage and leadership. They just let us down like all the others.

My RINO congressman (Rep. Brian Bilbray) is notable for his absolute refusal to comment on the eligibility issue in writing, although he has been caught on camera making ridiculously incorrect statements on the subject.

Why did we not have even one congressman or leading Republican political figure asking these questions before Trump came along?

It is a major mystery. When the secrets are revealed the earth will shake.

thinkwell
Reply to  David F LaRocque
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:56 PM

You are right — it is an unfathomable mystery. I pride myself on clear thinking, but as to why nearly all the so called conservatives are so universally on the wrong side of this so clearly bright-line issue… no idea. It simply makes my head spin.

Crazy old coot
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:39 PM

I voted for mccain because of palin. Since then I have lost my interest in palin. I still like her as a person and as someone that riles up the msm. But, I could not vote for her again because of her lack of concern for the Constitutional requirements for President.

I don’t know if a third party would have a chance or not, but it would be a wake up call to the repubs and dems if a third party won the election for President and congress.

For now, I’m not sure who I will support for President. I will just wait and see who actually files and runs. Then I will decide who I will support. It’s just too soon for me to make up my mind.

Don
TSgt USAF Retired

RacerJim
Reply to  Crazy old coot
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:06 AM

Thanks for your service!

I voted for McCain to offset votes for Obama. Palin added some much needed spark to the ticket and, like you, I still like her as a person and as someone who riles up liberals and the liberal msm. The only reason I would vote for her again would be if she’s the V-P nominee of someone who puts the U.S. Constitution’s criteria to serve as POTUS first and foremost.

As of right now I’m supporting Donald Trump for POTUS because he’s the only one with the guts to call Obama’s bluff and the wherewithal to see it through to its just end…Obama imprisoned for life at best.

John Sutherland
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:28 PM

The following is a post I borrowed from ReformUSA2012 on the alipac.us “Barack Obama’s citizenship questioned” blog. It helps us think through some of the reasons why so many people in DC are giving Obama a pass on his eligibility challenges.

“First off some major Republican and Rino names could get caught in the blast. Having Obama found ineligible would basically destroy the Democrat Party as it is now and allow charges of treason against many Democrat leaders across the country. However would also go after some Republicans.

“Second is it would set back the Minority movement 100 years because the first minority President we had was ineligible and basically stole the POTUS. Just another reason to see the minorities as a criminal element we need to do away with in some eyes.

“Third and more importantly Republicans attacking and even dethroning Obama on an ineligibility issue would be seen by many minorities as the “white man” holding back the “black man”. It would be seen as a massive racial attack even with rock solid proof. Keep in mind the education level of many of the minority black and hispanics who would buy into the racial crap. This could severely hurt the Republican Parties attempts to reach out to minority Americans as they have been trying to say that the Republican Party is NOT the white mans party as they have been lead to believe.

“Forth is the risk if the Supreme Court decided to say that Obama was eligible. That opens the door wide open for children of illegal aliens running for presidency, Americans who were born and raised overseas with foreign ideals but were born to one American parent, and so forth. It could even be twisted quite easily then to say a NBC is an old term and now its only a Citizen opening the door eventually to Naturalized Citizens. Basically that could be done as all meaning to NBC would be removed meaning it would be ignored by a potential specific liberal SC ruling.

“Republicans instead chose the safer approach [which] was simply defeating him in 2012 which the majority think will be a hands down defeat. But more and more are breaking off as his treasonous crimes add up. But NONE want their name seen as for impeachment unless they are sure to have enough support to least pass the house and even likely the Senate.”

Harry H
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:41 PM

As I wrote to Palin about a year and a half ago (published by The Post & Email), history had placed her above all others in position to file a Quo Warranto petition in the D.C. District Court simply asking Obama to show that he was eligible for office. It was at the time, and still is, the ideal and simplest way to defend the Constitution and rid our nation of a usurper.

I never received a reply.

Challenger
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:41 PM

You can add Pawlenty and Cain to the list. In boot camp training, the Sgt Instructor was always in my face with this ultimatum: “Lt. make a decision, NOW!!” Consequently, you learn real fast that when the *hit hits the fan, there is no time to cower, you act, doing the best you know how, and hope that you do not lose any of your men as a result. The important lesson in this training is that indecisive or non-action almost always produces certain failure. We are now engaged in combat, fighting a war for survival on the home front and there is no time or room for faint-hearted, wishy-washy pretenders.

ELmo
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:25 AM

OPOV Vet,
Thank You for Serving Sir.
You can add my name to the list of people who has disowned Palin and Bachmann for their refusal to stand-up for the Constitution – I bristled when Bachmann called it:
“The least important issue in the United States right now”.
She couldn’t be more wrong could she?

Isn’t the Constitution what the United States IS and what it stands for?? Doesn’t it ensure the governed are not oppressed by the governers?? Doesn’t it ensure us Freedom, LIberty, and Government OF, BY and FOR the People??

Isn’t the CONSTITUTION what our service men and women have fought and died to preserve since 1788?? And it’s the “LEAST important thing in the United States”??

Huckabee was crossed off my list in 2008 when he refused to drop out of the primary race in favor of Romney (who was the only REAL conservative who had a chance). Romney would’ve had the savvy to fix the economic situation we were in too instead of digging a deeper hole like Obama did.
God Bless The Birthers
God Bless the United States of America.
ELmo

Mifouf
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:08 AM

Amen, amen. In addition, I am a little concerned about a throw-away comment that The Donald made a day or so ago, when he said that he might run as an independent if he couldn’t get the Republican nomination. I have been writing and calling my USELESS “representatives” about the birther issues for over two years now. Recently I have been calling and warning that they risk third party action if they can’t wrap their heads around the understanding that we are terminally tired of the cat-and-mouse games being played on us by Obama and if they can’t support the demand that he release his records (all of them). Third party threats are very serious, and could derail what should be slam-dunk Republican victory in 2012. If a third party were to emerge, it would be completely due to the spineless wusses we have representing us, and especially the sorry would-be candidates for President for 2012, Trump alone excluded. I struggled to bring myself to vote for McCain in 2008, and I do not think I would have that much self-control in 2012 for any nominee who has failed to step forward, promptly, in support of birtherism.

patriotsus
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:39 AM

I just read an interview with the former republican appointed Director of Health in Hawaii and Im confused, I thought Obama had no birth certificate but here’s what she had to say:

“The first is that the original so-called “long form” birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a “record of live birth” — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state’s then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

“It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,” Fukino said. Moreover, she added, her boss at the time, Lingle — who was backing John McCain for president — would presumably have to be in on any cover up since Fukino made her public comment at the governor’s office’s request. “Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?” she asked. ”

I don’t understand, thats not what people here have told me. She also goes on to say:

“Her second point — one she made repeatedly in the interview — is that the shorter, computer generated “certification of live birth” that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. (Obama was “testy” when asked to sign the form but did so anyway to put the issue to rest, the former campaign official said. The White House has dismissed all questions about the president’s birth as “fictional nonsense.”)

The certification that the campaign received back —which shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 — was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said.

“What he got, everybody got,” said Fukino. “He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate.” ”

So Obama got the same thing everyone gets. What happened. thanks for clearing this up for me.

RacerJim
Reply to  patriotsus
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:52 PM

Miki Booth got what those Hawaii officials say can’t be had. What happened indeed. Hope that clears things up for you.

ksdb
Reply to  RacerJim
Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:24 AM

Fukino’s comments don’t preclude whatever document she allegedly inspected from being an out-of-state birth. He would still get a COLB, except the legal version would list the real location of birth. She has still not authenticated his jpg.

The Truth will set US free
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:47 AM

I was also smitten by Sarah, but was sorely disappointed that she also kept quiet all this time. To late to resurrect the cause, as Donald has now broken the silence, and it will be very loud.

I pray for the day when all of them will be let away in handcuffs.

Mairi
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:38 AM

I stand with you, OPOVV! Sarah, Michele, Allen West, Rand Paul, and ALL the rest have disgraced themselves and their Oath! Not one had the cajones to demand Barack prove his bonafides.
I am PRAYING that everyone will boycott Ann Coulter’s newest book. What a bimbo that one is. It is so sad to see those Conservatives we expected to be champions of our Constitution, instead be far too worried about their own “presence in the spotlight” and financial gains to take up the standard and champion the very document that gives them the opportunity.
I’ll take my stand with Viet Nam Vet. Maybe once the work is complete, he can remove the adjectives preceding his noble, distinctive appellation.
GOD Bless you, Sir, for your service then……..and NOW!

Larry M. Meyer
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:31 AM

BRAVO, BRAVO!! I love your thought processes!! I have maintained since Nov. that there are NO Political HEROES, just “NEW COLOR RINO’S BLOW’IN SMOKE, you know where! There are NO “1776 Patriots”, that are willing to sign “The Patriot’s Oath” and commit to possible Recall, Removal by Impeachment, or by any and ALL Legal means IF they fail to “Preserve, Protect, and Defend the “Organic” Constitution and “The Bill of Rights”, that Supports the Freedom, Liberty and Pursuits of Happiness Guaranteed to the “Sovereign Citizens of “The United States of America”, and for which She Stands!!
under the threat of feeling “The Citizen’s Wrath!”
“WE the People” worked long and hard for last Nov., and for our Efforts we got Stuffed by a bunch of Greedy-Me, back-Door “Let’s Make a Deal” RINOS!!
BooHoo Boehner, Issa, Cantor, Scott Brown-(aka Benedict Arnold)-Trump, Cline, Col. West and the rest are NOT the Answer to our Freedom!
Velcomen to” ‘Da United Socialist States of AmeriKa”

yo
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:01 AM

The “interested person” who wasn’t interested.

I agree with you, viet vet.

I’m glad there are others out there who feel the same way as me.