WHERE IS THE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM?
by nobarack08, blogging at nobarack’s weblog
(Mar. 26, 2011) — As a true un-American media mouth-piece that knows little if anything about the United States Constitution, whereas Hannity repeatedly stated that the United States Constitution requires you to be born in the United States to be eligible for the Presidency.
In reality the United States Constitution Under Art 2 sec 1 – The President
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Where in the above Constitutional requirement, says that one has to be born in the country? It doesn’t. The requirement is a ‘Natural-Born Citizen’.
Let’s educate Sean Hannity
Benjamin Franklin’s (a signer of our Constitution) letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775
“I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations. Accordingly, that copy which I kept (after depositing one in our own public library here, and send the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed) has been continually in the hands of the members of our congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author”?
The Law of Nations – Vattel in Bk 1 Sec 212, states the following.
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
The following statement was made by the author of the 14th Amendment.
I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen -Rep. John Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment, before The US House of Representatives ((Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291, March 9, 1866 )
Or this statement by Supreme Court Chief Justice Waite
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.
-Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875)
The 14th Amendment states the following;
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Born in the United States but ‘JURISDICTION” is required.
Under Jus Soli, the following is written “The Supreme Court’s first holding on the subject suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifying significant number of persons born within the physical boundaries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” the court held, mean “not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.” Most Indians could not meet the test. “Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more ‘born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,’*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102.
Baracka Abdallah Husein Obama stated the following on his campaign web-site;
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children
However, Barack Obama has not proven his claim of being born in the United States. The Obama COLB is not a Birth Certificate. It is, instead, cursory information that a birth occurred. It is superficial, it is not thorough or detailed as the long form that it supports to represent. The fact that the Obama COLB has been proven to be questionable at best and a forgery at the least, and as there are no records per the current Hawaiian Governor backing it up. If there are no records backing up the document, how was the document produced in the first place?
Sean, stop lying to the American people. According to new poll & survey — 91% of Americans doubt Obama is constitutionally eligible! You are only fooling yourself and betraying your country. Learn the facts.
Your failure is the reason that an 18 year Army career Lt. Col. Sits in Leavenworth Prison for standing up and demanding Obama prove his eligibility. Learn about Terry Lakin, and you’ll see why you don’t deserve to be in the same room as him. Or Charles Kerchner, Mario Apuzzo, Theresa Cao, Walter Fitzpatrick, and a host of other REAL GREAT AMERICAN PATRIOTS. Shame on you, Sean; you should hang your head in disgrace.
A real American that has served this country.
Sean Hannity, Rush, Levin et al…are ALL aware of the issue of Obamas eligibility, but refused to cover it for years (or were told not to) – in the case of Levin, he of all people should be delving into this since he is a supposed Constitution “expert”, but why hasn’t he?? How could he care about our Constitution if he refuses to talk about how Obama is not eligible?? Ask yourself that……they are all shams!
Right now, for Sean Hannity, it’s all based on ratings – that is the ONLY reason, I believe, he is touching this subject (very lightly).
And even though Steve Malzberg and Michael Savage will continually discuss this on their shows and go into more detail and aren’t afraid to give their own opinions, something is STILL missing – the Natural Born Citizen status of Obama. I haven’t heard ONE talk show host mention the Constitutional eligibility of Obama and how it’s not just about his birth certificate. It’s about the fact that he was never eligible as an Article 2 Section 1 Natural Born Citizen.
Pastor David Manning was treated most disrespectfully by Hannity when he tried to discuss Obama. Pastor Manning Has his facts regarding Obama exactly right. He has been Pastor of Atlah World Missionary Church for (I believe) 30 some years.
They are all just pathetic Lemmings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming
FYI: Caught a little bit of Bauer and Rose on XM this Sunday morning. A great show–usually. This time I was mortified by their utter dismissiveness of the eligibility issue. In effect, they said it was irrelevant, that Obama’s made sufficient mistakes in judgement already without having to delve into his eligibility to undermine his bid for re-election; said that in their eyes Trump’s luster has diminished because of his asking about Barack’s BC. I was completely taken aback, incredulous. It is willful conservative ignorance, and I am at my wits end to explain it. Listening to these guys heap scorn on the issue and adjudging it to be irrelevant genuinely angered me. I thought conservatives were about the Constitution? That’s not relevant??? Like, what’s so hard about r-e-s-e-a-r-c-h-i-n-g it before spouting off. There’s something in the water, a brainwashing, self-induced or otherwise, going on. I honestly can’t explain it. Anyway, these buffoons should also be provided that factual summary about which I alluded in a previous comment. I’m still stewing.
It’s willfulness on their part, but not ignorance. They’re attempting to shape or form public opinion of Trump’s outspokenness on this issue. While we, or at least I, can plainly see by the comments left to posts on this topic all over the conservative blogosphere that most people are applauding Trump’s efforts. I see this even at blog sites that have remained distant or neutral of the eligibility issue, including those where ridiculing “birthers” and anyone else who’d bring it up used to be the reaction of the majority of readers commenting.
The reaction to the mention of the eligibility issue by readers commenting has been changing for some time now in the conservative blogosphere, with comments in support of the discussion as a legitimate question and issue growing to outnumber comments of ridicule. The reaction to Trump’s outspokenness on the issue, however, has made that recent change appear “diminished” by comparison to the overwhelmingly positive and supportive reaction to Trump’s repeated mentions of the issue and his refusal to be silenced about it.
Either Goebbels or Lenin said that if you repeat a lie often enough, it will become the truth. That’s why the lamestream media has lied about “birthers” and the eligibility issue for the last three years. It’s why Bauer and Rose lied to their listeners this morning. And it’s why we can expect to hear those lies about Trump repeated over and over and over from the entire lamestream news media as well as from both the DNC and RNC and their pundits in the coming days and weeks.
I am not one to offer any sympathy or justification for the willful blindness of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh or the rest of the MSM on this point. Any who now start flirting around with the issue should only be held in ridicule. Their utter failure to timely investigate this glaring issue is why this Country is now in the middle of its gravest Constitutional crisis ever. We have a usurper who has wrecked havoc on us all for three years now. The truth is this calamity is the result of deliberate obfuscation by a wide swath of deadbeats who failed to investigate the most fundamental of questions: Is Obama Constitutionally qualified to be president?
Now that Hannity’s begun discussing the issue with seriousness, we should bury him in heaps of ridicule and shut him up again because it’s too late for him. He should know that the old saying “better late than never” is a lie and, at this late date, he should just keep on doing the wrong thing because it’s too late for him to be allowed to do the right thing. The same goes for his audience members. Any in his audience who don’t already know about this issue have been ignorant of it for too long and don’t deserve to know now. Yeah, give Hannity the ol’ Alinsky ridicule treatment. That’ll teach ’em all.
I don’t see the point of bashing Fox News. Hannity may be able to be educated on the subject, O’Reilly can’t be because he refuses to even look at the issue.
Having said that, what is the alternative to Fox News? At least we can be sure about 90% of what we hear on it bears some resemblance to the truth. The alternatives, CBS, NBC MSNBC and CNN don’t even pretend to be objective when it comes to politics or obama.
So, let’s just keep the pressure on Fox to tell ALL THE TRUTH and maybe it’ll all come out.
Wish someone could transmit a brief, crisp synopsis of the eligibility issue to the talking heads in question. The summary should studiously define terms without getting into the weeds of conjecture and opinion. Then, suggest some respected “experts” these talking heads could invite on their shows to clearly and soberly discuss and debate the issue. For a start, I think at least Hannity would bite. Worth a shot.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: In the works.
Is the below too brief?
Born a Brit. Not Legit!
I wouldn’t be too hard on Hannity. At least he has brought it up in the past and continues to bring it up without ridiculing the “birthers” as O’Reilly has. That said, thanks to Donald Trump and Chris Mathews, unlikely heroes, the eligibility issue is back on the front burner and is no longer subject to the level of scorn it has been up until these two guys started talking about it. And like vultures, the talking heads, not wanting to be outdone or denied a part of the kill, are now compelled to talk about it with a little less disdain and a with at least a modicum of new found objectivity. Since there’s no way they can get away with diminishing Trump and Mathews by calling them “birthers”, there’s now precious little wiggle room for them and they must necessarily, albeit reluctantly, keep the story alive. Unfortunately, these talking heads are not at all well-informed or wel-research, and that is a singular breach of responsible journalism. My only hope is that they will eventually do a little more research, or, in lieu of their own research, invite experts on their shows to soberly, intelligently and openly discuss and argue the case for all to see and hear. Now THAT would be a breakthrough!!!!!
Puzo1 said…
at …… http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7466841558189356289&postID=4721953380078219346
“On January 5, 2011, Pennsylvania State Representative and State Legislators for Legal Immigration (SLLI) founder Daryl Metcalfe (R-Butler County), state lawmakers and Constitutional scholars from across the nation convened in Washington D.C. at a press conference to unveil historic legislation addressing the misapplication of the 14th Amendment.
“Arizona State Senate President Russell Pearce, a national leader on the issue of birthright citizenship was unable to attend the press conference due to state business, stated that, ‘The law is clear, the history is clear, the 14th Amendment is clear; natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens, for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country,’ said Pearce.”
Source: http://statelegislatorsforlegalimmigration.com/NewsItem.aspx?NewsID=10195
I sent Sean a nice letter telling him I was happy the subject was ….finally….being discussed openly, at least on his show. I also included a description of what makes a natural born Citizen and why Barry cannot be one.
I have thought all along that Hannity, of the Fox News talking heads, was the least likely to slam the birthers. Look at the Chief Pinhead O’Reilly for example, or even Mr. Constitution, “question with boldness”, Glenn Beck. They spoke out far more than Hannity in slamming those who are asking, “Who is Barry Soetoro?”
DITTO, Bob1943. Spot on! Thanks.
I myself am a little leery of how Hannity is all of a sudden asking questions about the eligibility of Barack Hussein and the softening attitude of Bill O’ . Although the Donald seems to have opened the door for discussion about the birth certificate it is quite possible that due to Fox News’ declining ratings they may have given the OK to Sean and Bill O’ to gently expound on the subject so as to generate some excitment and false hope to the viewers that the subject will be thoroughly discussed with some educated people savvy to the facts of the subject . I find it difficult to believe that Sean is not more familiar with the facts of eligibility . But of course he could be feigning ignorance just to get the guests to respond to the issue without actually taking a stand or committing an opinion himself. Regardless of the motive to broach the subject by Fox News’ I say thank you Donald Trump and thank you Sean Hannity. I will be tuning in again on Monday to see how far this subject will continue to be allowed to travel. Now if only we could get Sarah Palin to expound about the issue of eligibility along with Mr Trump we may actually see some investigations into this travesty. It is my firm belief that both the Democratic and Republican parties are equally complicit in this massive cover-up . Shame on them and we desperately need a leader that will speak the people’s mind. We need a massive birther movement on D.C.
I’m hopeful that Hannity simply isn’t all that attuned to what makes one a natural-born citizen, something that could be easily rectified with some information like the one I sent to him in the following message:
Mr. Hannity,
Thank you for finally bringing up for a serious discussion the questions over Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president. However, there is still one misconception that you would do well to correct in future debates on this subject, namely that one needs only to be born in this country to be president. If that were the case, then anchor babies or children born here to a foreign diplomat could someday run for president when they shouldn’t be.
Please read the excellent commentary at the following link to deepen your understanding of what makes a natural-born citizen: http://tinyurl.com/49afkoa
Hannity finally opened up about the eligibility issue, however, slamming him in letters like this may have the opposite effect of what people are wanting and needing to happen in this country. I truly do not believe that Sean is unAmerican or a Traitor simply because he got some things wrong. Educating Sean is one thing. Attacking & placing derogatory titles on someone, because they didn’t do something exactly as you wanted or expected, is acting just like those on the extreme left that we complain about. I fear that the only thing this will accomplish is making Sean and others go quiet again because they are darned if they do and darned if they don’t. Sorry, that’s just my opinion.
I agree thistle.
Me, too…and here are some words to make this message long enough for the software to accept it.
Well said, Thistle. I run into many educated people who do not know Vattel’s definition of natural born citizen.
I disagree thistle.
United States Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115 § 2382. Misprision of Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.
it is very likely that rush limbaugh also needs to be educated on a natural born citizen and why soetoro / obama is not eligible to be potus and c. i. c. because his father was not an american citizen. rush should be informed that a natural born citizen is a person born on american soil with 2 u. s. citizen parents holding no allegiances to any other country. i will add that it would be a great idea for all in conservative media and talk radio to get this letter or a very similar one. this issue can be shoved down the liberal leftist media throats and make them eat crow.
Your right he is a Traitor. He has either been bought or has been threatened, either way he is still a Traitor.
Send your message to Hannity here ………
http://www.hannity.com/contact
Send Hannity this.
Hawaii issues Certifications of Live Birth to people born out of state.
The image on the internet that is supposed to prove Obama’s Hawaiian birth proves nothing.
Hawaiian Revised Statute.
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]
That is sole and sufficient evidence that Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” is not sole and sufficient evidence that he was born in Hawaii, that is why the Department of Hawaii Home Lands will not accept a Hawaii “Certification of Live Birth” as sole and sufficient evidence that someone is a native born Hawaiian, and that is sole and sufficient evidence for Hannity et al to demand that Obama provide other verifyable evidence that he is a “natural born Citizen.”
So after O’R’s performance relative to the unconstitutional attack on Libya and now Hannity’s continued misrepresentation of the constitutional intent of natural born citizen can anyone trust FauxNews?
Rupert Murdock owns it, along with enough other media to influence the world, and controls it. Why would he not spin the news? Murdock is a self declared socialist!