TV TALKING HEADS ARE ALL TALK AND NO ACTION
by Tom Deacon
(Sept. 30, 2010) — I am amazed and dismayed as day after day passes with an ineligible person in the office of president. No birth certificate is required to make that determination, yet the media continues to pretend there is “no problem.” How did the left lock the eligibility issue down so securely that Fox News and their talking heads, supposedly the one place for fair and balanced information among the “main stream” media outlets, has zipped up on the issue? The highly paid Fox entertainers only rarely mention it, and then only to insult the millions (58% by a recent CNN poll), of Americans who say they are not sure Obama was born in the U.S.A., let alone a natural born citizen. These people want a “fair and balanced” discussion, instead they get an attempt at humor at their expense for having the audacity to demand proof of eligibility from the putative president and commander-in-chief.
America being held hostage to the “race card” so completely that THE ONE in power and his many enablers can only be criticized in ways that will not directly remove them from their positions of power, or possibly send them to jail? Those who disapprove of almost everything the Obama regime does, people such as Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin, for example, call those who just want a discussion of “natural born citizen” unflattering names they think will get the best laugh in the rare instance they mention the issue at all. These people will not even discuss the case of an American hero, LTC Terry Lakin, because they fear it will force discussion of Obama’s eligibility, or lack thereof.
Is the possibility of this headline:
“FIRST U.S. AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT, TWO YEARS AFTER BEING ELECTED, IS FOUND INELIGIBLE, REMOVED AND SENT TO JAIL!” something they so fear happening that they will are willing to trash the Constitution and forget all objectiveness in their reporting? I send emails to these formally “fair and balanced” entertainers on a regular basis. This one specifically names O’Reilly, but I sent it to my entire list of silenced former reporters.
This is directed to Mr. O’Reilly, but it applies equally to all who refused to debate the most important issue of today, and the one issue that makes every other issue moot until this is brought into the open and completely cleared up. Mr. O’Reilly, would you please invite a few people, such as Mario Apuzzo and Phil Berg, Commander Charles Kerchner, Sharon Rondeau and/or others who are knowledgeable about the meaning of “natural born citizen” per the U.S.Constitution, for a “fair and balanced” discussion of Obama’s eligibility to be president? Don’t be a pinhead….or a coward, invite them and/or others with knowledge of the Constitution, and the usurpation of the presidency by Obama and his enablers to debate you, Beck, or anyone else……or all of you at the same time if that suits you best, on Obama’s citizenship status and the Constitution. You won’t…either you have been told never to discuss Obama’s eligibility,
or you are completely devoid of any common sense and logic.
Which is it, Bill?
This article pretty much explains why….notice it’s on a Canadian website. No guts in this Country, that’s been proven!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373
Great article with the exception that you did not mention “the others” is it so hard to forget Stephen Pidgeons and Leo Donofrio; both attorneys who have been trying in other suits, and ways to break the walls of deception down.
However, the most important of these courageous attorneys, who seems to be most misunderstood with her accent and her mind at 60 mph, is Dr. Orly Taitz, I see some of the postings remembering that she is flying all over this country and putting her neck out there. She has suffered the consequences of humiliation that comes with the territory, getting up in front of a room half filled with liberals and presenting her dossier in person to those sitting as Judges on the Supreme Court of our Land on this ineligibility issue to make certain they get it, as they apparently don’t; either the physical evidence or the most severe injustice in the history of our great nation. Apparently, they had never heard of the case, and I ask you why….don’t for get the Supreme Court Clerks; like Danny Bickel [Bickle] could very well be, “a gate keeper”….so not only don’t forget about these issue, but see how deep and dubious the corruption goes, but also keep the aforementioned attorneys in mind and follow what they are spending their time and hard earned money for the rest of this nation.
Okay, I am posting this again, as it is obvious that you cannot handle a little bit of criticism and some truth…again this is about the constitution and you can even allow a post; an amendment that most of us still cherish, like we do the law of this land in total. How about allowing this post to stay and not scrub it like what happens on Google, because if you do scrub it, then you are no better.
Great article with the exception that you did not mention “the others” is it so hard to forget Stephen Pidgeon and Leo Donofrio; both attorneys who have been trying in other suits, and ways to break the walls of deception down.
However, the most important of these courageous attorneys, who seems to be most misunderstood with her accent and her mind at 60 mph, is Dr. Orly Taitz, I see some of the postings remembering that she is flying all over this country and putting her neck out there. She has suffered the consequences of humiliation that comes with the territory, getting up in front of a room half filled with liberals and presenting her dossier in person to those sitting as Judges on the Supreme Court of our Land on this ineligibility issue to make certain they get it, as they apparently don’t; either the physical evidence or the most severe injustice in the history of our great nation. Apparently, they had never heard of the case, and I ask you why….don’t for get the Supreme Court Clerks; like Danny Bickel [Bickle] could very well be, “a gatekeeper”….so not only don’t forget about these issue, but see how deep and dubious the corruption goes, but also keep the aforementioned attorneys in mind and follow what they are spending their time and hard earned money for the rest of this nation.
To CDR Kerchner —- many of us believe the Supreme Court already knows that Obama is a usurper and is an ineligible president. The same goes for Congress the Joint Chiefs of Staff and all others in Washington along with the leaders in all the countries in the world and a high percentage of their citizens. We believe John Roberts knew when he swore Obama in. Wo the point is maybe we cannot expect much or anything from the court. Thank you.
to mia and thomas moratto—- you both may be wrong. i believe the person has to be born in u. s. territory. in mccains case he was born in a hospital in a town in panama off of a military base and was out of u. s. jurisdiction. you may confirm this with cdr. kerchner i believe. this means that he is not a natural born citizen either.
Please let me clarify my remarks… I fully support the definition of NBC as born in the US of two citizen parents. I primarily support this definition for the national security issues it brings to the Commander in Chief role of the presidency. We MUST have a president that has sole allegiance to the United States and no others.
I’m asking those who support this definition to also consider military families stationed abroad. Children of service members (both parents US citizens) stationed over seas should be considered natural born citizens of the US. How unreasonable would it be (and expensive) that the mother must travel back to the US to have the child in order for it to be classified as NBC. You may disagree with my opinion… I’m just asking that if this goes to the US Supreme Court that children of military families be considered in the debate.
But again, if the birth country has any jurisdiction over the child and has dual citizenship… SORRY, no NBC status for you.
There is evidence that shows that he was born at the naval base in Coco Solo in the Panama Canal Zone. Here is a link showing a birth announcement in a local newspaper in the Canal Zone.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/mccain_announcement_041708.pdf
However, it does not matter. Overseas US military bases are not considered part of the US (per the State Department), and Panama was the sovereign in the Canal Zone (hence we paid them an annual rent). McCain was not born in sovereign US territory. Furthermore, he is a citizen at birth by federal statute, and natural born citizen needs no human law to establish his citizenship — he needs only the self-evident laws of nature.
I would suggest that there be demands for a “RICO” investigation of all members of the House and Senate! It seems to me that there is a violation of the RICO laws in this! This silence of Article 2 Section 1 is too well organized and orchestrated to be just a coincidence coming from people who have sworn oath to serve and protect the U.S. Constitution! We (as in WE THE PEOPLE) should not have to be subjected to this childish nonsense coming from our elected officials! We are talking well over 500 elected officials of the U.S. government and not a one of them knows what the U.S. Constitution says about presidential qualifications. I don’t think so! There is a well organized Constitutional Crime going on and our protectors of the U.S. Constitution are all acting complicit in this CONSTITUTIONAL CRIME OF THE CENTURY! But they have all of the MSM working for them as well! I’ve said this before, this is much more than a deliberate violation of A2S1, the bigger crime is in the workings of this! Who put this crime together, who is calling the shots? Who can get the MSM (for whom the Founding Fathers provided the 1st Amendment as a legal right to publish so they can inform us PEOPLE of government bad behavior) to run a defense for the government and keep this issue from us PEOPLE? There needs to be more than the removal of this USURPER from our White House, there also needs to be an investigation to uncover the truth to as who are all involved in this Constitutional Crime so they all can be brought to justice!
Thomas Morato — You’re right. If we accept Vattel’s definition of natural born citizen in the “Law of Nations,” then yes, McCain and all children born of citizens — including military personnel — overseas are natural born citizens. As Vattel said, “By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers.”
The definition we usually see quoted for natural born citizenship is from Law of Nations, Volume I, Chapter 19 – “Of Our Native Country, and Several Things that Relate to it”, Section 212 – “Citizens and Natives”; but Vattel does not end there. Sections 215 – “Children of citizens born in a foreign country”, 216 – “Children born at sea,” and 217 – “Children born in the armies of the state,” address natural born citizens born overseas to citizens, including our military. Quote from Vattel’s Law of Nations:
§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.
For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.”
(http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/vatt-119.htm)
Having said that, I also agree with you that McCain has let us down miserably by refusing to address the issue, and especially LTC Lakin and all our military. But we also know that even if McCain did pursue it, he would just be further attacked and vilified by the right. McCain could have home videos of Obama’s birth on the doorstop of Coast Provincial Hospital in Kenya, and the conservatives still wouldn’t back McCain.
More and more, I think the only reason conservatives won’t deal with the issue is because they don’t want McCain to be prez. As Rush said often and loudly before the election, he’d rather have Obama destroy the nation for four years than let McCain be prez… Ann Coulter said she’d vote for Obama before she’d vote for McCain. Even now, JD Hayworth supporters are promising to vote for the Dem running against McCain — like we need any more Dems in congress!
You are reading too much into what Vattel said about children born abroad in the armies of the state, and what he said about children following the condition of their fathers.
In paragraph 217, Vattel does not say that these children, born abroad to a citizen in the armies of the state, are natural born citizens. The only place where he defines natural born citizen is in paragraph 212 where he says that they are born in the country to citizen parents. The words he uses are “natives” and “indigenes” and these were defined to be children of citizens born in the country (“place”) by Pufendorf in 1673:
“Moreover, Citizens are either Originally so; that is, such as are born in the Place, and upon that Account claim their Privileges: Or else Adscititious; that is, such as come from Foreign Parts. Of the first Sort, are either those who at first were present and concerned in the forming the said Society, or their Descendants, whom we call Indigenae, or Natives.”
When Vattel says that children follow the condition of their fathers, this is indeed true from a natural law standpoint. But the condition that these chidren are getting is citizenship — it does not convey natural born citizenship because that is a function of both place and parentage, as Vattel defined in paragraph 212.
McCain is not a natural born citizen because he was not born on US sovereign territory (one of 50 states, DC, or sovereign territories). Per the 1903 treaty, Panama was the sovereign of the Canal Zone. The US was not sovereign, and this is further evidenced by the fact that we paid rent to Panama every year. The State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual is very clear about whether the Coco Solo Naval Base in the Panama Canal Zone is a part of the US:
“Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad
and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of
the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A
child born on the premises of such a facility is not born in the
United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of
birth.”
to cdr. kerchner— but how long are we going to give the court to settle obamas eligibility question? what if the supreme court just stalls and throws it back to a lower court or just drags it out with no decision? the case would have to be filed again in the lower court and that means six more months. in the mean time obama runs again in 2012 and goes back in. i believe the time is very near for millions of us citizens to descend on congress and force gridlock until this constitutional crisis and national security crisis is resolved. the talk could go on endlessly. we know how bad obama is over and over. thank you.
Oilbama will not be re-elected, not even by way of voter fraud, which can only be pulled off if the race is a close one. It wouldn’t be a close race. In fact, I doubt the DNC would run him again because he would surely lose to just about anybody.
Fox News Poll: Only 39 Percent Would Vote to Re-Elect Obama in 2012
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/01/fox-news-poll-perecent-vote-elect-obama/
The ad which ran in the Washington Times National Weekly edition this weeks points out the likely false registration of Obama as being born in Hawaii by grandma Dunham for the simple reason she wanted to get her foreign born new grandson U.S. Citizenship simply she could and because birth registration fraud was easy in Hawaii under the lax laws in the new state. Virtually any child could be registered as being born there during the 60s and 70s simply based on the signed mail-in form testimony of one person. And that slick wheeler and dealer grandma Dunham knew all the tricks of the trade and did it … simple because she could. No one ever thought anyone would be the wiser. She never thought he’d grow up and run for high political office and this would come out. But this is not the first lie told in Obama’s life narrative. His whole early life narrative is full of lies and obfuscations. The sooner this Obama cat is removed from office the better. Then let the misprision of a felony criminal cases begin.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38156915/Obama-Ineligible-I-tried-and-lied-but-it-won-t-go-away-Wash-Times-Natl-Wkly-2010-09-27-pg-5
And Grandma Dunham was silenced, ostensibly by natural causes, before she could be interviewed about the birth certificate!
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Who hit the “mute” button in Washington DC and the main stream media and national talking heads types … and why. Read these essays.
Read this …
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/01/i-believe-fix-was-in-for-2008-election.html
And this ….
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/search?q=Open+Letter+to+John+McCain
And this ….
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/08/republicans-want-review-of-birthright.html
CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)
Pv asks……
How you can try for treason someone who is not a citizen?
If that person is pretending to be a citizen and claims to BE
a citizen, there must be a charge that would fit that person
as well as to those conspiring with him/her.
Attempted treason???
article on orly taitz website that i totally agree with. we should be putting pressure on the dems about obamas eligibility especially in battle ground states. if the pressure is great enough on the dems they will turn on obama to save their own skins. we cannot afford to just sit and wait until jan 2011 and think another group of politicians will be different. this issue needs to go full speed right now. the dems will want to save themselves politically. i recommend every body go to the orly taitz website and read this article and take the appropiate action after that.
bob 1943 —-it is believed that obamas grand mother filed a paper in hawaii lying and saying that obama was born in hawaii so he would have citizen ship rights. this came from mario apuzzo and cmdr. kerschner.
Regardless of the chances for success we must press on. This is our time. My father did not shirk from the grim task of defending this nation and neither will I.
This has to stop. It is as if we hired a crook and his cronies to run our casino or bank and now he knows all codes, combinations, procedures and security measures we have in place.
Even if he is just voted out he and his followers will wreak havoc for a hundred years across the globe.
Letting this continue is the most dangerous thing we have ever done. Possibly the most dangerous thing ever done for the free people alive now and yet to come.
He must be ousted as the scum usurper that he is.
You are absolutely right, there is no way just voting these people out can even the score for the biggest fraud/sham in history being carried out on America. Imagine the criminals involved in this living the rest of their lives in luxury on American taxpayer dollars.
This is way too important to even think of ever giving up.
This is way too important to even think of ever giving up.
No, we can’t give up, not even if this drags on through and past his one term. Should this con job last that long, the damage won’t be limited and may not be reparable, either, but justice should be carried out just the same. Those convicted should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, making it clear to all who might consider doing the same that it won’t be worth it in the long run.
I think it is the Republicans who have pushed the mute button. They nominated their own ineligible candidate (McCain, not born in the US and a citizen at birth by statute and not a citizen at birth by the laws of nature) and now have a rising star (Jindal) amongst their ranks who could be a Presidential or VP nominee in the near future. Jindal is not a natural born citizen because despite being born in Louisiana, he was born to parents from India who were not US citizens at the time of Jindal’s birth. I like Governor Jindal, but he must not run for President or VP — he should instead run for the US Senate from Louisiana and serve multiple terms.
Did anyone notice how often McCain was on Fox News before the Arizona primary, and how we don’t see him there nearly as often now that he is the Republican nominee for the Senate? Fascinating, hey?
Speaking of rising stars in the Republican party, does anyone know if Rubio’s parents were US citizens at the time of his birth in Florida? Rubio’s parents left Cuba in the late 1950s, but I have not been able to find out when they became naturalized US citizens. If they naturalized before Rubio’s birth in 1971, then Rubio is a natural born citizen. But if not, then he is not. Seems to me that they would have naturalized by 1971, but we need to know.
Hi Texoma… I agree with your assertion that a child must be born in the United States of two US citizen parents to qualify for president under our constitution. However, having served in the military for 22 years, I’m somewhat biased on the issue and also believe that there should be at least 1 exception to this rule and that is for military families stationed abroad. Penalizing the children born of 2 US citizen parents stationed overseas serving our country is beyond reason. These folks are on the front lines protecting and defending the document which founded the United States and all of us live by.
However, if the child is somehow subject to the jurisdiction of or later in life chooses to also accept the citizenship of the foreign country born in… sorry, your dual citizenship obviously disqualifies you. I give McCain a pass because of his two US citizen parents and his ‘singular’ US citizenship.
As a side note… I do have TOTAL disrespect for McCain as he is complicit in the fire he helped spark in the destruction of the document he has sworn to protect. This man is fully aware of the history and the fraud BHO is and continues to ignore repeated complaints, emails, letters and faxes to his office. McCain is not a man of Honor, Courage nor Integrity. He too IS nothing but a RINO tool of the political machine which is destroying (if not already) our great nation.
Hello Thomas. Well, it is more than an assertion. The term “natural born citizen” was defined in 1758 by Vattel, and in at least 5 cases, the Supreme Court has characterized a natural born citizen as being nothing less than born in the country to citizen parents (plural).
In reply to Mia (higher in this thread), I commented quite a bit about McCain. He is not a natural born citizen due to being born outside of US sovereignty. Panama was sovereign over the Canal Zone, and overseas military bases are not considered part of the US. Furthermore, he a citizen at birth by federal statute, whereas a natural born citizen is a citizen at birth only by the laws of nature.
I agree with you about McCain. He should have had the Supreme Court determine whether he was eligible or not, and in doing that, Obama’s ineligibility would have been exposed. That would have been the honorable thing to do.
Your argument that children born abroad to US servicemen/women and their US citizen spouses be eligible to be President has merit, but it would require an amendment to the Constitution.
Executive Order 13489 – Presidential Records
The law Obama thought he was modifying to protect his pre election records is not covered because they are not managed by the Archivist:
Specifically exempt 44 USC 2201-7: Copied here:
(B) does not include any documentary materials that are
(i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552 (e) [1] of title 5, United States Code);
(ii) personal records;
(iii) stocks of publications and stationery; or
(iv) extra copies of documents produced only for convenience of reference, when such copies are clearly so identified.
(3) The term “personal records” means all documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion therof,[2] of a purely private or nonpublic character which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.
Basically, he can only protect records which are derived from his tenure immediately preceding swearing in, and while he was in Office.
Several states have laws on the books that require that the DNC and RNC certify their candidates as either meeting “federal laws” of which the Constitution is a Federal Law; or, “is legally qualified to server under the providions of the Constitution of the United States”. Hawaii is one that did not certify Obama correctly; Nancy (God Bless her stupidity) did not certify Obama/Biden as qualified under the constitution. Those states that have laws requiring certification IAW the constitution and federal laws and who accepted Pelosi’s bad judgement were suckers. In fact, there is enough out there to recall the entire election. So why are we worried about feelsings; how about the millions of us who voted – do our feelings count that we were rejected by STUPIDITY for STUPIDITY’s sake (who’s now in our White House)?
Did you send this to Mario Apuzzo? He should be able to pry
something loose from someone if only recent archived
info is protected by EO.
When the Russian troops invaded Czechoslovakia in 1968, there were waves of protest in the former USSR including the acts of putting themselves on fire by some of the citizens. Very few people knew about this inside the country. LTC Lakin is committing a similar act now, and only a very few people know about this. It is ironic that nowadays, Pravda is publishing the information on Obama’s ineligibility,
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/16-09-2010/114949-obama_fans_OMG-0/
The USSR crumbled under the weight of its own inefficiency and corruption. Are we going to learn from this or follow in their path?
Interesting article. All about the birth certificate and nothing about the issue of Obama’s non-US citizen father. However, the author does ask an interesting question: has anyone asked for a copy of the receipt for the COLB (the one that got posted on websites and that is alleged to be a forgery) that Obama allegedly got from Hawaii?
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Months ago I wrote to Factcheck.org and asked to see the official request form which Obama would have had to complete and send to the Hawaii Department of Health. I also asked if independent journalists and photographers could go to Factcheck’s headquarters and examine the “birth certificate” that they say they “spent some time with.” They never responded.
I gave up watching O’Reilly long ago, but I do recall seeing him say that he did not care if Obama was ineligible: “I don’t care, I don’t care!” was O’Reilly’s position. It is an irresponsible and unintelligent position. He may think he is avoiding civil unrest or just letting whitey get paid back by his squashing the truth, but he should be following the truth wherever it leads and letting the chips fall where they may.
The headlines need to read “Ineligible President Has Our Nuclear Weapons At His Fingertips”! The RINO leaders and FOX News people might suddenly find a spine and have him removed from office. If not, “We The People” would be happy to do it for them.
However, nobody is talking about that either.
Kathy, others including myself have repeatedly stressed that we have wrongly placed the most powerful military in the world in the hands of a probable foreigner who secured his position by fraud. Gen. Thomas McInerney (ret.) used to command a nuclear-armed unit, and in his support of Col. Lakin’s case McInerney specifically pointed out the imperative need for decisions on the use of nuclear weapons to be unclouded by doubts about the legitimacy of orders emanating from the C-in-C.
Those who counsel patience or who are just complacent like O’Reilly should ponder the nuclear question. It is outrageously stupid for us to let a foreigner decide whether or not we defend ourselves if need be with missiles. Of course, Obama is aiming to disarm us if he can and has openly stated his functionally anti-American goal of a nuclear-free world. He is far more interested in disarming America than in defending her.
O’Reilly and Beck (who is so enamored with our Founding Fathers) should ponder what John Jay wrote to Washington during the Constitutional Convention:
“Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”
Jay wrote this letter 5 weeks after Hamilton proposed that the President be “born a Citizen”. For our Founding Fathers, it was not enough that the President be born a citizen (which would include those born in the US to foreigners and those born abroad to US citizens). No, the President had to be a natural born citizen — born in the US to US citizen parents. Or, put another way: born of the soil and full blood of the nation.
If is ever found ineligible he needs to be jailed for life because he has an access to the most sensitive American secrets. This is much worse than the affair of Johnathan Pollard who has been in jail for ages and is still there.
Is anyone else wondering about this latest UFO situation,
where aliens are de-activating our nukes?
Would that perhaps be Osama/Obama’s default position
if our nuke retaliation strategy fails due to inoperable weapons?
Aliens did it !!???
Which “alien/aliens” are they referring to?
Would ALL the other nuke powers of the world
gang up to threaten us?
Better yet –
” illegal alien obama has our nuclear weapons at his finger tips!’
Fear not my friends! Action on eligibility will begin after the election. It is my belief it’s being held back so as to not muddy the waters during the Republican landslide.
You are wonderfully idealistic — but naively delusional to believe the Republicans will do anything about the obama’s eligibility after the election even if they sweep both the House and the Senate.
When Representative Clyburn openly delared for all the media to hear and report that the Republicans would subpoena everything, including obama’s records, if they gained control of Congress, it took the Republicans less that twelve hours to publically state that Clyburn’s statement was patently absurd relative to the obama.
Oh, how I wish you were correct!!!
to robert— yes we must keep up the pressure relentlessly for this communist traitor scum to be arrested and tried for treason and fraud and other criminal charges. no impeachment as many are beating the drums for. he will remain there. congressman issa john boehner and others need to know the longer they wait on this the messier it is going to get. we will not wait indefinitely for them to act. the whole world knows obama is ineligible.
The mention of [Phil] Berg’s name to any of these show-biz figures- posing as news-persons-is problematic at best. Not only is he one of these 911 truthers but he won’t even permit ARTICLE II’s “Sunset Clause” to appear in print. One of his spokespersons claims it is because the average American is too stupid to comprehend it’s significance. I , say, it is because it points to the true meaning of ‘natural born citizen’ and that doesn’t square with Berg’s agenda which is tied to the birthright citizenship lie
Berg was the first lawyer involved and did not have the benefit of all the research and debate which came to fruitition after he filed his lawsuit. And since “technically” his lawsuit is still pending in front of the Supreme Court, he is stuck in early views of the issue and definition. I went toe to toe with him on McCain and was flamed down. He deserves my respect for getting the ball rolling, but yes indeed he has become a drag on the issue. Other people are now better suited to be spoke-person on the issue. Mario Apuzzo comes to mind.
I so agree with you, so glad that Berg filed the suit and brought the issue forward that several of us communicated to him about this pending doom before the primaries, however the first to get the credit for posting the COLB was Teresa with Texas Darlin.’
We are SO AWARE that Berg would never give the true credit where it is deserved, as his main interest we allege is the limelight ,and don’t forget those generous donations….cough cough!!! The sad state of affairs is his competitive edge as wanting to be “the first” he forgets, as it WAS NOT HIS IDEA…but saw he would gain publicly, and he lost sight, and wanted to fight to be on top…so much so he started suing those who had information superior to his, and who were working more diligently all over this country gathering the documentation. Instead of sharing it began to be another battle and lost sight of the cause IMHO….have you notice he says the same thing over and over…you cannot convince him of the major goal…as don’t forget he was or is a registered Demorat, or is he now?
Sadie, it was by way of The Manchurian Candidate blog post at Texas Darlin’s, which I found via a link at another blog, that I first learned of Oilbama’s ineligibility. After getting the heebie jeebies from seeing him on tv and not learning anything about him from tv and cable news, I began searching online for substantial background information. I wanted to find out why the DNC was pushing this unknown, what was so great about this less-than-one term Senator, what has he accomplished, his life up to that point in time, what he “hoped” to “change” (he never said), and were the heebie jeebies I felt whenever I saw and heard him speaking warranted. The only question answered was the last one: my gut feeling was right (it almost always is), and it was answered by means of deduction because the other questions weren’t and couldn’t be answered.
That blog post at Texas Darlin’s, which was a compilation of everything that wasn’t and still isn’t known about Oilbama, was confirmation for me that I wasn’t finding info because it wasn’t available to be found. And, most importantly, it introduced me to his ineligibility and set me on the course to being the “birther” I am today, for which I am grateful.
By the way, I was an Article II, Natural Born Citizen, birther initially, based upon what I learned at Texas Darlin’s. That changed after the umpteenth time that his Kenyan birth was mentioned by the members of the Kenyan Parliament and African news reports.
Here is a quote from Rush Limbaugh’s radio show, just yesterday I believe. It’s from an article currently posted at WND:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=210129
Rush charges Obama ‘foreigner’ in loyalties
“Talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh said yesterday that as far as loyalties go for Barack Obama, he is a “foreigner.”
“Let me put it this way,” Limbaugh said. “We don’t need a birth certificate to know that Obama is a foreigner, in this sense: He’s born in the United States, but he doesn’t think like most of us think. He doesn’t look at this country and its people, its history, its accomplishments the way most of us do. He doesn’t look at our history with pride.”
Rush kinda sorta hints that he might like to say something about Obama’s ineligibility, then wimps out and says he was born in the United States (though he doesn’t specifically say Hawaii), without any proof that he was born in the United States, and lots more credible evidence that he was born in Kenya.
And he says nothing about Obama’s lack of natural born citizenship….ever.
There is no way that O’Reilly will touch this subject. I think he is a closet socialist! He cares only about “MONEY” and “EGO” Fox is cowards….. You think they would do the right thing for America? But…. if it comes down to “civil unrest” they will be right there saying…they can’t understand what is happening. In my opinion the ones like O’Reilly, Beck, MSM, congress, judges, our coward generals and others (we know who) has proof that Barry is a fraud and they stand by and allow our country and our way of life taken away from us.
I pray that there is no blood to be shed over the American people wanting this wrong to be righted but if it happens I charge the people who has the power to expose this fraud with TREASON. They will answer to the Almighty.
I totally believe you are correct on O’Reilly. His “fair and balanced” attitude always leans to the left. Another reason I believe they will not discuss this at Fox is because of Phil Berg originating in the Clinton camp. I think they may believe it is a set up to ruin their credibility and therefore, they’ve never looked into it.
“Who pushed the mute button”? Obama did!