HOWEVER, HOSPITAL HAS NEVER CONFIRMED OBAMA’S BIRTH THERE
by Sharon Rondeau
(May 8, 2010) — The Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii is the birthplace of Barack Hussein Obama II, according to Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle as reported by WorldNetDaily.
However, the statement Lingle made on Wednesday was inaccurate. On May 5, in speaking about Obama’s documentation, she said:
This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it’s again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this.”
However, the only statement issued by any Hawaii state official during the campaign is here, and it did not mention the hospital of Obama’s supposed birth. According to the Health Department website, “State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).”
Why has Lingle apparently violated her own state’s law to discuss Obama’s birth certificate? How does she know that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center?
According to a report just days before the election, Lingle’s office refused to release a copy of Obama’s original birth certificate on the grounds that the requester, who represented a news organization, did not possess “a tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks.”
On October 26, 2008, WorldNetDaily reported:
WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama’s birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft.
Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama.
The source also refused to answer WND’s question whether the original document on file with the Department of Health was a hospital-generated birth certificate or a registration of birth that may have been filed subsequent to the birth.
The anonymous source made clear the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama’s original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf.
If Obama had not requested the release of his original birth certificate, how and why was the Certification of Live Birth which Factcheck.org said it obtained from Obama campaign headquarters released and posted as part of an article on June 16, 2008? In answer to a question as to whether or not Obama’s birth certificate had been released, Factcheck stated:
Yes. His campaign made a copy public after speculation by conservative bloggers that he might not be a “natural-born citizen.”
Factcheck.org has never verified that the image posted at their website was received from his campaign headquarters as claimed. The image posted “just as we received it” can be found here.
An Israel Insider report dated November 1, 2008 stated that Hawaii officials would not confirm that the image posted on Obama’s campaign website was consistent with the birth records they supposedly have on file.
In January 2009, a letter purportedly signed by Obama was posted on the Kapiolani Medical Center’s website but electronically hid the image of the letter after WorldNetDaily questioned its origins. The letter had been displayed by the hospital on the front of a fundraising publication, but the hospital’s spokesperson refused to confirm Obama’s birth there when asked.
Recently Parliament members in Kenya claimed on the record that Obama was born there. They had also alluded to it numerous times previously. It has also been reported that the Kenyan officials have documents on Obama but that they were sealed.
Attorney Andy Martin has filed a second lawsuit in the state of Hawaii, this time charging Governor Linda Lingle with “suborning election fraud in October, 2008.” While Martin believes that Obama was born in Hawaii, his first lawsuit was filed to force Hawaii officials to release the original birth certificate due to his contention that it should now be considered a public document.
Enough on the speculation of birthers and racist liberals that use the race card. All we know is that Michelle Obama is a birther. Scan to about two minutes into the video and see for yourself. What’s notable is that this is the second time that an old video has surfaced where Michelle has spilled the beans. Now, it’s just plain funny.
“What it reminded me of was our trip to Africa, two years ago, and the level of excitement that we felt in that country – the hope that people saw just in the sheer presence of somebody like Barack Obama – a Kenyan, a black man of great statesmanship who they believe could change the fate of the world.”
It would seem that under tangible interest list, that #9 would apply and since Obama is an employee now of the citizens, a group of voters could appeal to the Hawaii court and show the internet image and have it verified by Hawaii, but showing the backup document and having it verified by the court. He used it to “gain employment by election” and has refused to show the backup document and Hawaii has refused to verify the internet image. The document has blacked out numbers, cannot be verified on the internet, has prima facie on it, which means if questioned it is to be verified by the ful document. A court could then decide if this was tangible need. Of course, what court is a real court is part of the puzzle also!
Great thinking. We need to keep the pressure up and get them to realize how obvious and true what you are saying is.
Obama’s place of birth is a red herring. It is totally immaterial. The real question is, is Obama constitutionally qualified to be president? And the answer unequivocally is no. The constitution requires that the president be a natural born citizen, and that BOTH parents must have been US citizens. Obama’s father was Kenyan, and his mother was the seventeen year-old daughter of a naturalized citizen who legally could not confer citizenship to her offspring until she was eighteen.
MikeMca, if it’s okay with P&E News, I’m reposting this comment here in response to yours. Obummer’s Kenyan birth is not a red herring. It is a fact. It is the only fact that renders him ineligible to serve as POTUS without dispute.
Most of us “birthers” know the difference between a native born citizen and a natural born citizen and that only a natural born citizen is eligible to serve as POTUS. We also know, however, that it will most likely take years – at least the rest of his first term – to get this to and through the SCOTUS. Even after all of that time, there is the possibility that the SCOTUS judges, being the cowardly, corrupt bunch that they are, will rule that the Fouders meant no difference from native born citizen when they used the wording of “natural born citiizen” to outline the eligibility requirements for the POTUS. That would be a shame and a furthering of the destruction to the US as it pertains to Obummer because that difference is irrelevant; he was born in Kenya and therefore is neither a native born citizen of the US or a natural born citizen of the US.
The SCOTUS needs to address the difference native born citizen and natural born citizen before we see a native born citizen run for POTUS. Even then, we can only hope they will rule correctly and honestly, something that is more likely to happen when and if it means no one running for election to POTUS and no one illegally elected to the presidency will be removed.
In regards to Obummer, the fast track to getting him and those who helped put him in the White House ouf of our government, off our streets and behind bars where they belong is by exposing his Kenyan birth.
(I needed google to translate)
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.antaranews.com%2Fberita%2F1268813841%2Fobama-siswa-angkatan-kedua-di-sd-asisi&sl=id&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
Obama’s Second Generation Students in Assisi Elementary School
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 15:17 AM | Events | General |
Jakarta (ANTARA News) – U.S. President Barack Obama on his childhood living in Jakarta and in 1968 entered as a student of Assisi Elementary School second generation.Schools located in Jalan KH. Ramli, Menteng Dalam, Tebet Jakarta was founded in 1967.
In the book of the students, writing Obama’s name as Barry Soetoro and religion of Islam. Obama Citizenship in writing as a citizen of Indonesia.Unfortunately the book contains a list of values Obama does not exist.
During three years of schooling in Assisi, Obama’s most lots occupied space is now a classroom 6B. “Conditions are still the same classroom,” said Amirah Yustina elementary school principal of Francis of Assisi (Assisi Elementary School) when found in his office, Wednesday.
However, school benches have been replaced.There is only one bench Obama era that still maintained schools. According to one student 6B class, all students will occupy the seat, because every week the students to change seats.
In the classroom there are photos with his wife Michelle Obama. The photo was a gift from the U.S. Embassy provided when Obama was sworn in as president. Photos Obama (without his wife) are also on display at the principal’s office.
According Yustina, initially the number of teachers in Assisi are only two people with six classrooms. Now the number of teachers were 38 people with 18 classrooms.Number of students Assisi approximately 500 people.
Yustina admitted his side has made preparations to welcome Barack Obama, though not yet received information about plans to visit Obama’s former school.
“Still, we are preparing,” said Yustina. The school will invite pupils to greet Obama Assisi. They will also have to prepare art events.
Proud and Famous
“Obama has become the inspiration for the children. Disciple Assisi became president, they will think ‘I can dong’,” he said when asked his opinion Yustina about Obama.
“I feel proud that Obama becomes president of the United States,” said Anas ****** Assisi Elementary School sixth-grader. ****** plead not want to be president.However, she wanted to live and work in Amerika.Berbeda with Gloria Renata, third graders who claimed to want to be president.
“Assisi became famous,” said Dona Panjaitan, Assisi Elementary School parents, when asked his opinion about Obama, who never attended primary school Assisi.Both children Dona Chan. They sat on the bench first grade and sixth grade elementary school.
SD Assisi became famous because Obama never attended school there. Almost every day a reporter came to the school.
“Today there are journalists coming directly from America,” said Antony Assisi elementary school security guard.When asked where the reporters from the media, he did not know. (ENY/A038) (ENY/A038)
i read this article but am a little confused by the translation. can you further interpret this article? is there some smoking gun here?
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: The point of the article was to take the statement made by Lingle at this particular time and weigh it against all of the other statements, circumstantial evidence and unknown facts and decide for yourself whether or not Lingle is telling the truth.
i meant this post that Rob made. it was an article in antaranews and the translation is poor.
Has a plausible explanation ever been given for why his colb cert# is out of sequence and higher than those born on Aug 5th?
According to Granny, the US Pres (POSPOTUS) was a bastard orphan of a mixed race union in Kenya.
Perhaps adopted by the Dunham’s, brought to HI and there granted birth rights as a US citizen of HI.
Uhhh…Let’s see now………
I not only don’t want you to know who I am, where I come from, or what I stand for,
I also don’t want you to know who I am pretending to be, to come from, or to stand for.
Got it?
This buffoon could have been born in the Oval Office delivered by the SCOTUS and still not be eligible, bottom line. Can you say fraud?
How can anybody have their identity protected when they are using a fake ID themselves?
How can the Governor of Hawaii deny access to Obama’s birth certificate by authority granted pursuant to HRS §338-18, a provision her office claims is to prevent identity theft…
when licensed private investigators have said that Obama has used numerous social security numbers and the one he is using now was issued in CT, a state where he never lived?
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=7735
“Probably the most telling evidence of fraud is the fact that the social security number most commonly used by Obama from 1981 until now is a number issued in the state of CT to an individual born in 1890. According to licensed investigators Susan Daniels and Neil Sankey Obama has used numerous different SS numbers that belonged to deceased individuals and numbers that were never issued. 39 such numbers were used according to National Databases, none of which were issued in HI.”
In light of the fact that Ms. Nagamine has indicated that Hawaii’s Attorney General’s office will not corroborate Dr. Fukino’s statement declaring “Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen”, could this be used as a wedge to re-address the issue with the Governor’s office and seek clarification? Could Ms. Nagamine of Hawaii’s Attorney General’s office be asked if Gov. Lingle can hide behind HRS §338-18 if evidence to social security number fraud can and/or has been submitted to both the AG and Governor’s office?
How can anybody have their identity protected when they are using a fake ID themselves?
Since Obama posted a forged COLB, that in and of itself should deny Obama the right to deny access to his records at the DOH. But how could the State of Hawaii afford identity protection to someone violating: The felony fraud provisions of the Title II programs found in 42 U.S.C. § 408(a)(1)-(8) of the Act. –
• forging or falsifying SSA documents;
• using a Social Security Number (SSN)
obtained on the basis of false information or
falsely using the SSN of another person, for
the purpose of obtaining or increasing a
payment under Social Security or any other
federally funded program, or for any other
purpose
• making or causing to be made a false
statement or representation of a material fact
for use in determining rights to Social
Security benefits, Medicare, Supplemental
Security Income, or Black Lung benefits
Also:
“The Ninth Circuit has held that an alien’s use
of a false SSN to further otherwise legal conduct
is not a crime of “moral turpitude.”
Beltran-Tirado v. Immigration and Naturalization
Serv., 213 F.3d 1179, 1184 (9th Cir. 2000).
How can it be legal conduct if it is a false SSN?
All hospitals in Hawaii DENY that Obama was born there,including Kapi’olani Hospital:
http;//www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?=135
If Obama WAS born in the USA,why did he have to ask his lawyers to find a way to “Evade” Article II of the US Constitution,the one that says he must be a “natural-born american” to BE POTUS:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/6507-4049
Correction: All hospitals…
http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?=135
Let me try this again:
http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135
The circumstances of Obama’s birth to a British father and a mother that did not meet citizenship requirements herself makes being born ANYWHERE in Hawaii,OR THE USA ,FOR THAT MATTER,a moot point. No matter where he was born. He has never been a “natural-born American” since he can never meet the requirement of having TWO American parents (Jus Sanguinis)AS WELL AS being born in the US (Jus Soli) AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH.
***No need to post this in this thread
Page 126 of Dreams from my father. “Then you were born, and we agreed that the three of us would return to Kenya after he finished his studies.”
This clearly implies that they had been there before. If they had not been to Kenya before, the wording would have been more like “After your father finishes his studies he plans to return to Kenya and take us with him”.
Here’s a link to the page: http://books.google.com/books?id=TFwulcQbUDEC&pg=PA126&dq=dreams+from+my+father+%2Breturn+to+kenya&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
I also have some excellent new found information from 1831 from Henry St. George Tucker. I suggest that you read this: http://books.google.com/books?id=zPVBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q&f=false
It is from the third edition (1846). The first edition was posted in (1831).
You have my email address should you need anything else.
Have you guys at The Post ever asked for a “verification” which is specifically allowed under Hawaiian law to a private organization for the purposes of research or education?
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: We have sent innumerable requests for clarification and information to the Hawaii DOH, most of which have been totally ignored.
I sent specific requests for verification REQUIRED by Hawaii Law of “any record” (namely the fightthesmears document) and it was ignored by DOH and OIP which is supposed to enforce the law when DOH doesn’t abide it.
For months they’ve ignored this request that is in their LAW.
It’s obvious that Hawaii refuses to verify the COLB. Officially.
Funny thing is Lingle never said Barack Hussein Obama was born at Kapiolani. Knowing how HI always plays cutesy with the language, this could be the crux of the matter.
But a pox on the White House for destroying our country.
Sharon, once again, great writing. Any day now, the Marxist Communist Socialist, Alinsky-loving, Nazi, non-Christian usurper will be dragged from the White House!
You must continue the fight! Don’t stop now!!!!
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: We will not stop until the truth is out for all to see.
IF ???? OBAMA Was actually born @ such place , He still would not have two ( 2 ) Parents that were U.S. Citizens , His Dad was not a U.S. Citizen !!! EVEN IF OBAMA WAS BORN @ SUCH PLACE !!!!!!
Sharon, springing the info on them that he wasn’t born at Kapi’olani would be perfect about right now, wouldn’t it?
I’m telling you and others but no one seems to care.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: I’m not sure what you mean by “springing”; the information has been compiled and published here, as in many other places, so that people can weigh the evidence and make up their own minds, hopefully to take some kind of action against a government that has totally turned against its people.
You didn’t read my idea, did you? I told you how to take action.
You do a great job but the idea will put you over the top.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: No, I have not seen it. Could you please send it to editor@thepostemail.com?
I saw it, I saw it , I saw it. Its like a broken record. This is hearsay and not admissible in a court of law. Just because you tell me it exists does not make it so, I want to see it with my eyes.
Obama is not an NBC; his father was Kenyan. He was never eligible; end of story.
Let’s read it again:
“So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. ”
Soooo, Gov. Lingle NEVER SAW IT HERSELF! Duh! This is called “HEARSAY.”
Wouldn’t it be easier if Mobamba just COUGHED UP the Long Form. Or, just tell the Kenya DOH to do it for him!
Squeeky
Girl Reporter
Lingle: “…we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii.”
Health department statement on release of Obama records.
“State law prohibits the DOH from disclosing any vital statistics records or information contained in such records unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record, or as otherwise allowed by statute or administrative rule. See HRS §338-18. Direct and tangible interest is determined by HRS §338-18(b).”
So the health department is explicietly using HRS 338-18(b) as the guildline. Lets go down the list and see where the governor had “direct and tangible interests” in accordance with 338-18(b):
The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
(1) The registrant; (NO)
(2) The spouse of the registrant; (NO)
(3) A parent of the registrant; (NO)
(4) A descendant of the registrant; (NO)
(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant; (NO)
(6) A legal guardian of the registrant; (NO)
(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant; (NO)
(8) A personal representative of the registrant’s estate; (NO)
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction; (NO)
(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents; (NO)
(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony; (NO)
(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and (NO)
(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy. (NO)
The department of health has disclosed information in which no one with tangible and direct interest as expliciently defined by their own policy.
Here is the only out for the state of Hawaii – Have they been given permission by the registrant to release SOME of the information in the vital records. If so, they would not be in violation of their policy. But it would show collusion that would demonstrate a serious cover-up.
squeeky you’re right, she specifically distanced herself from the actual document. Fukino is the “fall guy”.
Anderson Cooper said that the COLB is a legal document. Whether that’s true or not, the lawyer should have said, so let’s SEE the “legal document.” A picture of a document is not a document. In no possible way is a digital image on a website a “legal document.”
jbjd, at her blog, demonstrated that the websites upon which that COLB was displayed by the Obama campaign contain nothing more than political advertisements. To what standard of accuracy are political ads held?
The other websites, which duplicated the image, are political blogs. Nothing more.
The COLB, Hawaii will not verify.
And it’s only been FILED it was never ACCEPTED by REGISTRAR.
You could submit a COLB application, make up a phony COLB using photoshop to mirror that information you provided (Dad, King Kong, Mom, Marilyn Monroe) and since DOH HI “FILED” it you could say you have a COLB on FILE with DOH just as Obama’s does.
Remember his never says it was ACCEPTED BY REGISTRAR.
I don’t know where I first saw this, perhaps here on another thread, but it’s pertinent to this post:
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/regional/Obamas%20grandmother%20throws%20party%20/-/1070/912088/-/132bh0/-/index.html
“Mama Sarah Obama [Obama’s step-grandmother] was awarded a honorary Doctor of Letters by the Great Lakes University of Kisumu on Monday for her role in helping widows and orphans at her Kogelo village. . . .
Mama Sarah appealed to the public to dedicate their time and effort to ensuring that they take care of orphans and the vulnerable people in the society.
‘This is a show of blessing from God, since I have always dedicated my time to tend to the orphans. Even the US president passed through my hands,’ added the grandmother.”
Riddle me this: When did Obama first go to Kenya? At what age did he first “pass through” Sarah Obama’s hands? Why, while speaking about her life-long dedication to caring for “orphans”, did she bring up “the US president?”