2004 PIECE DISTRIBUTED WORLD-WIDE PUTS FOCUS ON TIMELINE OF CLAIMS — An 2008 AP Story Repeats the Claim!
UPDATE: Federal Court requested to investigate AP Story
by John Charlton
(Oct. 14, 2009) — What most people know is that the Associated Press (AP) is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated news services. What most people don’t know that is in 2004, the AP was a “birther” news organization.
How so? Because in a syndicated report, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times, and which was, as of this report, available at
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
the AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.
The difficulty in finding this gem of a story is hampered by Google, which is running flak for Obama: because if you search for “Kenyan-born US Senator” you wont find it, but if you search for the phrase without quotes you will find links which talk about it.
For those who believe what they see, here is the screen capture of the page from the Kenyan Sunday Standard, electronic edition, of June 27, 2004 — Just in case that page is scrubbed from the Web Archive:
Readers should take note that this AP story, was syndicated world-wide, so you should be able to find it in major newspapers, archived in libraries world-wide. If any reader does this, please let The Post & Email know, so that we can publish a follow up-story. You can scrub the net, but scrubbing libraries world-wide is not so easy.
Hanen of Sentinel Blog Radio broke the public news of the existence of this AP story at on October 14, 2009 at 12:31 pm. However, The Post & Email can confirm that a professional investigator had uncovered this story months ago, and that certified and authenticated copies of this report, meeting Federal Rules of evidence, have already been prepared and archived at many locations nationwide.
It should be noted that on January 8, 2006, the Honolulu Advertiser also reported that Barack Hussein Obama was born outside the United States.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
A Chronology of Deceit
One can now ask an important question which has not yet been emphasized enough: “Just when did Obama begin to publically claim he was born in Hawaii?” This question is distinct from the question, “Just where in fact was Obama born?”, and from the other question, “What do official documents say about where he was born?”
Regarding his claims, we can summarize what is known:
1. As of Monday, Aug. 28, 2006, Obama’s Campaign was putting out that he was born in Hawaii. This is known from the introductory speech given by Prof. George A. O. Magoha, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Nairobi, on the occasion of a speech given there by Senator Obama that day. (One presumes that the Vice-Chancellor was given notes from the Obama campaign, as is customary on such occasions)
2. From the newspaper reports above, it is clear that the Obama campaign was putting out that he was born in Kenya, or overseas, during the period of June 27, 2004, until January 8, 2006.
3. In October of 2004, during the ABC Chicago Affiliate’s broadcast of the Obama-Keyes debates, Obama openly admitted — he conceded — that he was not a natural born citizen. (C-Span aired the uncut version of the debates, which contained this exchange, in the second half of April, 2005)
4. It is known from a classmate of Obama at Harvard University, that while at Harvard, Obama at least on one occasion admitted that he was born in Kenya. (This friend went on record on a call in radio program in Idaho in early July, 2009)
If any reader can find a link which documents a claim to a birth location before Aug. 28th, 2006, which differs from this timeline or which supports it; please let The Post & Email know of it, by posting it in the comment section below.
In a follow up report, The Post & Email has published a brief analysis of the Google Newspaper archive, which shows that Obama’s story changed after June 27, 2004.
Finally, that the AP did cover this story, reprinted by the East African Standard, can be seen from the citation made to AP stories about it (Jack Ryan dropping out of the race), in the following contemporary news articles, which however are incomplete:
June 25, 2004 — http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123716,00.html
June 26, 2004 — Bellview News Democrat
June 26, 2004 — AP Online Story by Michael Tarm
June 25, 2004 — AP Syndicated Story by Maura Kelly Lannan
(Second Source on June 26, 2009, which cites Associated Press Special Correspondent David Espo and reporter Dennis Conrad as contributors to this report)
(Third Source, The Ledger, print edition of June 26, 2009: partial republication)
A Second 2008 AP Story repeats the Claim
(Oct. 17, 2009) — As a supplementary update to this article, The Post & Email adds the following report, which confirms the attribution of the above article to the Associated Press, and repeats the claim.
Modern Ghana published an AP report on Nov. 4, 2008, which claimed Obama was “Kenyan-born”. You can read it for yourself at:
http://www.modernghana.com/news2/189461/1/americans-decide-today-go-obama.html
To forestall internet scrubbing, David Crocket at “Oil For Immigration” has screencaptured the page:
The article reads, in part:
After almost two years of campaigning, Democrat candidate Barrack Obama, Republican, John McCain yesterday brought their train to a halt in their respective home states to await the verdict of Americans.
So far, the odds favour the once underdog in American politics, Obama, the African-American Senator from Illinois State .
A Congressional Quarterly (CQ) politics monitored on BBC put the Kenyan born American ahead of his rival, Senator McCain.
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This report has been supplemented by the following reports at The Post & Email:
Obama concedes he’s not a NBC, in Obama vs. Keyes 2004 Debate
2 More African News Agencies declare Obama “Kenyan-born”!
Honolulu Advertiser page scrubbed!
Google’s archive shows Obama’s birth story has changed
Federal Court requested to investigate AP Story
“Everybody knows Michelle is a tranny.” The late Joan Rivers. So, two frauds. I hope one day with God’s direction, that obama not being a NBC comes to light and he is stripped of his title and all benefits forthwith.
PRES. OBAMA,,,,
TEAR DOWN THIS WALL OF RUMORS….
RELEASE YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP , IF YOU CAN?
FULL DISCLOSURE IS YOUR CLAIM; PLEASE LIVE IT—– —– —-
BROWN, TEXAS
A WARRANT FOR THE ARREST OF THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD BE OBTAINED AND SERVED BY THE ATTY GENERAL OF THE US….OR SOME STATE ATTY GENERAL,,,IF THE FEDERALIE’S REFUSE, AS THEY LIKELY WILL HIDE UNDER THE LIAR CARPET IN THEIR OFFICES.
THIS IS APPALLING,,,,TODAY, PRES OBAMA WAS TELLING THE AUDIENCE HOW OPEN HE BELIEVES HIS ADMINISTRATION IS;;;;AND FULL DISCLOSURE IS HIS RULE,,HIS NO ONE RULE..
HE CAN HAVE HIS DAY IN COURT,,,HOPEFULLY THE SUPREME COURT,,,AND PRESENT ALL DOCUMENTS
TO PROVE OR DISPROVE HIS CITIZENSHIP.
THIS GRAT COUNTRY WILL NOT GO SOCIALISTIC,,,NOR WILL IT LEAN TOWARDS THE COMMUNISTIC AGENDA THUS FAR PRESENTED TO ALL AMERICANS….WE ARE STUNNED,,,EVERY DAY THERE IS SOMETHING MORE COMMUNISTIC THAN THE DAY BEFORE…I’VE CONCENTRATED ON ENERGY,,,AND THE CAP & TRADE,,,AND CARBON TRADING,,,,AND ITS THE MOST MYTHICAL,,,STUPID,,,ARROGANT \DEMANDING CONTROL OF ALL INDUSTRY IN THE US OF AMERICA AND IT WOUDL SET US BACK TO THE 1970 LEVEL,,,AND STIFILE ALL INGENUITY,,,WHICH IS THE GREATNES OF AMERICA.
PUT UP OBAMA,,,OR FOREVER BOW TO THE CENTER,,OF THE POLITICAL SPRETRUM;; THE RED STATES DEMAND IT….OR WE WILL TAKE IT WITH FORCE.==OF THE COURTS,,,,YOU ARE NOT UPHOLDING THE CONSIITUTION, WHICH YOU VOWED TO UPHOLD…YOU ARE JEOPARDIZING THE SECURITY OF THE NATION,,,YOU ARE MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE GENERALS WHO DEFEND OUR FREEDOM AND FOREIGN POLICIES…
RESIGN,,,,THAT’S YOU BEST BET,,SIR HUSSAIN OBAMA,,
BROWN,,,FROM TEXAS,,,
All this whole controversy amounts to is a confirmation that we have a narcissistic pathological liar as President of our beloved country… which is rapidly becoming the USSA, United Socialistic States of America. What an unprecedented, and self-inflicted tragedy.
Somehwre there is a video recording of Alan keyes remarks and Obama’s reply. If one could find that video it would put this case into high gear.
It’s time for a taxpayers revolt, a revolution to turn this country around or to have this nation splintered.
I would rather live in a free state than a communist United States.
We didn’t yell loud enough when the Supreme Court opted for separation of Church and state. We didn’t yell loud enough when they said Jesus and prayer cannot be mentioned in schools. We didn’t yell loud enough when the Federal Reserve was made in 1913 or when they lied to us and said taxes were not unConstitutional.
We’ve allowed all kinds of vermin to grace the steps of the Capital building in DC and in our home states.
Dishonest men with no sense of loyalty to country, no sense of family values, no strong beliefs in God. We’ve allowed greedy and wealthy people to pollute our forefathers intentions and now we are paying for it.
We now have the most communist Congress ever assembled backing a foreign born communist as president with a government sponsored media praising his every step.
This is your last chance to yell or the Constitution will be gone. Stand up and make your voice heard now.
The New World Order zombies are lurking all around us.
All of this discussion about the written word is fine and dandy, but we all know how that can easily be edited.
Has a professional reporter from any of the major television news organizations asked Obama directly where he was born and to produce the appropriate documents to prove it. Ditto for his college records and documents concerning his college funding. If so, was it broadcast live on national TV, and what was his reply?
I ask, because I have not seen any footage of this having been done. If it was done, it seems like we would have seen that footage thousands of times on TV by now. What’s with that?
Makes me wonder if there is anything at all to all these rumors, as much as I wish there was…………..
While we are at it, why don’t we see where he registered for the draft board. You wont find it because he is not a citizen.
What pass port did he use to travel to Pakistan back in ’81. He said this himself. Why do I ask this, US was not issuing pass ports to that country back then.
He got a foreign student grant when he went to collage.
If he is NBC, why is he getting money under fraudulent conditions.
How simple is it for him to produce a copy of his birth certificate and stop all this, I have to produce one to get a drivers license. Or is he waiting for someone to forge a copy.
The list goes on and on, you know the story, you lie to get out of another lie and then another lie and then another lie. After awhile you can’t keep up with your lies. It will come back to haunt you.
I hope we find the answers, before it is to late. It may be irreversible already.
I just saw the article spoken about above and it did say that he was born in indonesia. tried to print it but it came up that page could not be displayed. Now it won’t let me back on it.
Is it still true that a judge is actually going to hear arguments in this case this January?? I have a few links to news about this. I would love to see his Kenyan birth proven, thereby disqualifying him as president, and making him guilty of fraud against the US Constitution and the nation, ie treason. All those implicated in this conspiracy would also be guilty, including alot of his fellow senators, who were aware of this in 2004. Until then, keep the heat on, do not let this go away.
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Mr. Charlton replies: McBain, you need to read our more current articles on Barnett vs. Obama (see the tags search in the right-side bar).
If the 1st African Regional Youth Congress on Science and Technology was held in 2005, then the 3rd was held in 2008.
The 1st African Regional Youth Congress on Science and Technology in Nairobi, Kenya in June 2005, marked the beginning of broad collective youth engagements towards a youth led development network. During this Congress, over 80 youth leaders and professionals from 21 African countries converged in Nairobi under the auspices of the African Technology Policy Studies (ATPS) and the Technical Center for Agriculture and Rural Cooperation (CTA) to deliberate on youth employment creation and leadership in HIV/AIDS prevention.
SOURCE: http://www.atpsnet.org/about/initiatives/ayfst.html
THE 3RD AFRICAN REGIONAL YOUTH CONGRESS ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
In her keynote speech, ATPS Research and Training Manager, Ms Sheila Maina, attributed Africa’s developmental woes to the exclusion of the dynamism and potential of the African youth who constitute more than a quarter of the population in Africa. The ATPS incoming Director Dr. Kevin Urama quoted Kenyan born Illinois Senator, Barrack Obama, in his welcome remarks and expressed AYFST’s dream to create a group of African youth where innovation was the norm. He said that this dream could be achieved through the audacity of hope, audacity of courage, and knowledge networking. He further elaborated a framework for supporting youth programmes in Africa towards achieving the MDGS by mobilizing the youth to harness STI for development in Africa, supporting regional knowledge sharing, facilitating youth engagement, and facilitating career mentorship of African youth by senior colleagues in Africa and Diaspora.
SOURCE: http://www.atpsnet.org/about/initiatives/Kampala%20story.pdf
I think it is time that our elected officials should be impeaching this liar of a president. He is destroying our Country. He is against white people that is for sure.
We better get busy and start drilling in Alaska for Oil as the Asian Countrys are together and we are out. Our money is no longer considered as they will have a new requirement and the U.S. is left out. They are having secret meetings at present. (China, Jopan, Korea)
What is the legal way to present this information, have it verified, and then get rid of the s.o.b. I am tired of having a wolf in sheeps clothing for a president.
Okay, it is common knowledge that Obama is NOT a NBC. You can tell…it is so obvious! He has no allegiance to this country, his criticism of Fox News just proves that he has illusions of being a dictator like Hitler trying to control ALL the media. He wants to bankrupt the country! His father probably brainwashed him from birth about how bad a free society is and how corrupt capitalism is. I am a NBC with a Hispanic background and believe me…not all hispanics are crazy about Obama! And I don’t believe he is all Black, he has some other blood besides Caucasian. He has a strong allegiance to the Arab kings because deep inside he is a Muslim and a Muslim sympathizer!
NOTE:
The January 8, 2006, the Honolulu Advertiser link has been scrubbed to remove the condemning statements. You must use the Web Archive website to look up that same page and retrieve their earliest archive of that page to see the original text and complete report.
> Clyde Griffin: When is Congress going to act on this? It’s time he is Impeached !
Congress is in on it!
Barry Soetoro, AKA Barack Hussein Obama, should be arrested for FRAUD and all the crimes he’s committed as a result of it.
Congress Democrats & Republicans, the White House administration, and the supreme Court judge(s) should be arrested and tried for TREASON against America. (We need the military to do this — all the rest are corrupt and cannot act on behalf of the American people.)
Countless people who don’t know how to use Google’s search properly have come to conclusions similar to yours. However, if you use these search criteria (options at Google’s site), you will see that Google brings up 125 to 274 results for:
“Kenyan-born US Senate”
On my fourth try, the number of results jumped from the previous 125 to 274. Maybe because those 274 came from a different server? I read somewhere that that is the explanation for varying results.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&tbo=s&num=100&newwindow=1&q=%22Kenyan-born+US+Senate%22&start=0&sa=N
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Mr. Charlton replies: Anonymouse, you have missed one major point: the article does not refer to Google searches; it refered to Google News Archive searches; your covers the net; the latter refers to the archived news database; they are 2 different things. Your results cover what’s happening live; the article referred to historical newsreports in the past.
Notice the header, in that article is vastly different from yours:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=kenyan-born+obama
The other issues you raise are also solved in the same manner: read more carefully.
Obama is another Hitler–when we will wake up and
start at the beginning-it all began in Illinois with the
crooks and liars-and until we get rid of Obama this country
is going to suffer—big time.Read “Catastrophe” by
Dick Morris– it is fact, no fiction.
When is Congress going to act on this?
It’s time he is Impeached !
What I am wondering is why this did not come out sooner??
Well, Some of my younger family members call me a racist when ever I say something unfavorible about Pres O-bla-bla, but, I really don’t like this smooooth talking Demo-Rat because I believe that he is all “TALK” “TAX” and “SPEND”. SO! Is this so called “NEWS” just “SMOKE”? Or is it the real deal? Are we being taken for the “WORLDS GREATEST SUCKERS”? OK! Its time to Crap, or get off the POT! “ITS TIME FOR Obama to anserw the 100 dollar question on the game show, “Do you want to be a millionaire” and that question is…”WHO’s YO DADDY BRO”? Open those sealed files, “NOW”!!!
I’m not for or against our current president. Personality asside, one must evaluate over time. Wouldn’t you think if there were anything to these (citizen or not) claims the opposing political party would be seeking and furthering investigation? Have they? Are they? Ya think that means anything??
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Mr. Charlton replies: Jack, perhaps you don’t know the facts of history. The RNC and the DNC made a sweetheart deal, support McCain’s eligibility, though born in Panama, and we’ll keept quite over Obama’s ineligiblity. You see, both commited the same crime: both are liable. Its to the interests of both, to pretend they did nothing wrong. You have to decide who you want to be; a slave in a gulag run by the parties who are funded by NWO folks, or a free American, with the liberties and rights guaranteed by the constitution. Seeing that Obama has only 26% strong support in the pols, most don’t want his dictatorship. Do you?
John, when will citizens take back America? Patriots have had it up to their eyeballs. Every single one of these traitors have betrayed us. Time is running short. We can write articles until we are blue in the face, but the fact is we are losing America at warp speed. In less than 50 days, The Messiah is going to sign away our sovereignty to the U.N. Then what?? What will it take, John? I know many people who are preparing to take out these traitors. Time is not on our side.
Surly there is something out there to prove he’s not a US citizen that will hold up in court. I think the whole government is behind it. Since we pay their salary too bad just like a business we can’t fire them all and believe me if they worked for a corporation big or small they’d all be fired. They are getting rich off of us as we get poorer.
This health care bill, the global warming ect are all scams.
I don’t believe in this global warming thing for one minute.
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Mr. Charton replies: Janet, you don’t need to prove he is a citizen; for the office of president one has to be a “natural born citizen”, which is a specific kind of citizen, who was a citizen at birth, born on US soil of 2 parents. He claims a foreigner as a father. Ergo, you need prove nothing. All we need to do is arrest him. There are patriots who want a court to remove him. They have not yet found even a court willing to hear a case of fraud against him. The Federal Attorney Generals wonìt do a thing; the top Brass sold us out and committed high treason. Congress, the Republicans and the Democrats are in cahoots with them. The NWO financeers are behind him. We need to pray and get up the spunk to start running the country, because it was We the People who founded it, not the Republicans, nor the Democrats, nor the financeers. It’s our country, not theirs; it’s freedom or slavery at this point. Choose your destiny.
I hope someone finds the truth about Obama’s birthplace!
For the sake of our country’s future.
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to the constitutional law that I just read that references the definition fairly clearly: ” Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)” Does this fit Obama? His mother was an American citizen. I do not understand why he will not release his records if he really has nothing to hide. Surely, being the Harvard law graduate that has taught constitutional law he would be aware of this definition.
Don’t get me wrong I would love to see him removed from office, but I was thinking more in terms of 2012 and removing the power in 2010 through the ballot. I have been lied to directly by his staff when he was a senator therefore, I do not trust the man or anything he says.
KENYA: ‘I DON’T KNOW’ IF OBAMA BORN IN U.S.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82060
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Mr. Charlton replies: Thanks, Maria; It bears reminding that nearly a year ago, the Kenyan Ambassador to the U.S., also could not bring himself to admit that Obama was born in the US or not.
The Post & Email also reported that the Kenyan Ambassador at Rome, also won’t speak to this question.
http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/kenyan-ambassador-refuses-to-acknowledge-obama-sr-s-paternity/
Evidently the Kenyan Government does not want the liability of admitting anything.
RAPPEL POUR LES NOUVEAUX
LISTEN TO OUR CALLS TO THE KENYAN EMBASSY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA!
November 21, 2008
We recently called the Kenyan Embassy and learned some pretty interesting things about our President elect, Barack Obama…
THIS CALL IS 100% REAL!
You people who think this is fake or “a bit”…
IT IS NOT!
Now take a listen… Quit compaining…And take it for what it is…
http://my.wrif.com/drewmike/index.php?s=LISTEN+TO+OUR+CALLS+TO+THE+KENYAN+EMBASSY+ABOUT+BARACK+OBAMA%21
WHY is he still in office if this is the case?
This is a travesty to the American People and One Big Lie!? I am getting sick of the corruption!
Remember the Six Degrees of Separation theory? Please, everyone, send an email to everyone you know, everyone you can. Surely somebody has a recording of that debate, audio or video, and will remember it if you ask. Also, some of your contacts might not have heard yet about this BHO admission. So tell them, ask them, and pray that someone remembers it is in their archives. He or she will be a national hero!
Bigger men have been brought down by their lies. The truth will alway come out. When it does, the truth will set the American tax payer free from Obama bondage.
why is he not being removed?
Somehow it doesn’t matter WHERE a liberal President is born. They always have a way to hide the facts. You can’t GET the original Hawaiian birth certificate. I was born in Honolulu, and my birth certificate looks NOTHING like his certificate of live birth. The Hawaiian Gov. put a lock on his original birth certificate-if there is one. You can’t look at his college transcripts. Whatever could be used to impeach him somehow is out of bounds to look at.
The problem with the President isn’t a THING to do with race. There are a lot of blacks I would vote for. The problem is he is ashamed of this country’s prosperity and is bankrupting it. He also is working towards being a world dictator. The only person he loves is himself. Listen to his speeches. All he does is say “I” this and “I” that. I know an egotist when I see one.
Give me a break, this was the plan all along. This is just timing and providing an opportunity to change the laws and sweep Arnold Schwarzenegger into the white house before 2012. What a bunch of crap. They had to have known this, the press, the republican party, democratic party. Get ready for the new reich……………………………………………., but I am hopeful Hashem has other plans.
I don’t remember the website I saw a photo of a hospitol in Kenya which had a plaque on the left post before entering the hospitol that said Birthplace of Barrack Obama. The article I was reading was about Obama as a Seneter campaigning for his relative there was a picture of Obama with him. I think the hospitol was coast something can’t remember. I have been looking for the article but don’t know how to find archives. I knowother readers are much more able than me. Maybe someone could find a snapshot, I would not doubt the plaque may be gone by now.The time line would be just before the election in Kenya. I hope someone may be able to find this.
Thanks for the info! But why on earth wasn’t this found before the damn election?
Try the seach engine “all the internet” .com. They haven’t scrubbed it.
That makes Joe Biden the president of the United States of America. God help us.
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Mr. Charlton replies: Actually I don’t think it does, because Congress would have to follow the proceedures in the Constitution that govern the Joint Session choice of a candidate for president, since they never chose an eligible one in the first place.
He (Pres. Obama) was either lying back in the day or he is lying now…either way, you know what that makes him…but should we be surprised he continues to lie to our faces every day & the one person who called him out on it was ridiculed…but, again, no huge surprise there either.
To me, it isn’t a huge deal that he may or may not be native born, what does bother me is that he keeps ignoring the topic. Not answering the question makes him look even more guilty. Just weird all together.
Why don’t anyone look into the sudden death of the grandmother? She probably knew too much?
its quite suspicious that the video of this debate where obama says it doesnt matter where he was born because he is running for state senator, not president. If this video exists it will create a firestorm…….i pray it exists.
Notice on http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html , it says article was corrected on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2006…..
BUT…..
A cached, archived version (first one available) from February 2nd, 2006 found here: http://web.archive.org/web/20060207151627/http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
does not show the correction yet?!?!?!
What da heck? Don’t these people know that wayback machine exists???
Concerning these links:
1 – http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/183931-1
2 – http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/184058-1
3 – http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/184143-1
On 183931-1 there is an obvious edit when Keyes is speaking at 51:04. The subject was “family values”. There is no way to determine what or how long a cut it was.
He truly is a LIAR. So, the Congressman who shouted during Obama’s speech was right after all.
America lost it’s class, glamour, strength when they came into the White House.
Guys, the unedited version of the honolulu advisor page is still at archive.org. will be curious how long it stays there.
This is the most recent archive of it, from 2007. Definitely shows the “both born outside the US” line.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070913070956/http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
NOT saying it’s not true about the Keyes-Obama debate, but somebody, SOMEWHERE has to have made a copy on their own with their old VCR. I used to tape debates I’m not the only one. That’s why I’m skeptical this was ever said. It would have been played LAST year all over conservative blogs when we had the chance to stop Dear Leader Obama.
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Mr. Charlton replies: Who watches debates 6 months after their candidate loses? And who saves debates which indict their man? So who is left to remember a debate that politically was to be forgotten?
The Honolulu Advertiser article from 2004 has been edited since yesterday. Everyone email the editor and make him explain why:
whoover@honoluluadvertiser.com
Were this a Republican, there wouldn’t be room on the front page of every newspaper for anything else.
But he’s not, so the complicit media will bury this by totally ignoring it.
Count on it.
Can someone tell me how so many stories about Kenyan-born Obama can exist and he can STILL get elected?
Why can’t this birth be brought to an absolute or put to rest? It just keeps getting the Teaberry shuffle!
I have a close Canadian friend that had been quite mean as of late, stating that my feelings for Obama are extreme hate. He loves Obama and thinks he walk on water…hmmmm. I have tried to tell him that it is impossible for me to hate him because I don’t know him per say. However, my knowledge of him thus far does send a deep and penetrating chill of fear throughout my entire body.
Can you shed any RECENT light on the Obama birth situation?
Appreciate your time…Terry Brandfass/Phoenix, AZ
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Mr. Charlton replies: I think you have the right attitude; but no, I cannot shet light on a problem that B.H.O. could solve with the release of his documents; it’s not that he is afraid of publicity, is it?
C-Span update…you won’t see it from the video’s that are at C-Span, so don’t waste 3 hours looking at them…the video in question came from an ABC affiliate out of Chicago and C-Span aired the unedited video…a witness has come forward who watched the verbal exchange and says will sign an affidavit…The C-Span host read a statement from the Obama campaign right after the debate stating that what Obama said had nothing to do with his actual birth status…extradinary, they knew he screwed up and were already in damage control…I believe John Charlton is right, we need to know what the agreement was between the ABC affiliate and C-Span, who the ABC affilitate is, the people working the broadcast the day it aired…I’m also pretty sure that C-Span has an archive of this and the ABC affiliate still has the tape…is it just me or does anyone else think that the “reasonable cause” bar has been reached for our national level investigative organizations to secure some search warrants for information (electronic and human witnesses) and the ABC affilicate in Chicago? Just sayin…
Found the 3 debates on C-Span…links are below…
1 – http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/183931-1
2 – http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/184058-1
3 – http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/184143-1
If someone or a group of people could make a recording of the recordings in case they magically go away that would be great…also, I don’t know for sure if these are unedited or if the actual quotes in questions were recorded, but I think it’s definitely worth investigating to find out…good luck…
If this page is not nation wide news here in America today or tomorrow, we will know for sure the Nation wide news reporting service has been bought and paid for. Why do we, as a group, in the best country ever created, tolerate an illegal president to enjoy the benefits of a legitimate political office, to elicit positions of power reserved for a legitimate president without him having many attempts against his life.
I think the congress, the president, the news media are all guilty of treason for allowing this illegal president to remain in office after this first person pronunciation. I just wonder if Obama is not taken out by the military or another American close to the person of Obama. I do not think he or she would be prosecuted for saving this country from ruin.
Ace said:
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Read the following article very carefully!
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html”
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There is a line of text that has been scrubbed from that article.
It stated: ” Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai’i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have “a kama’aina connection.”
Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand — and graduated from high school in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.”
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Mr. Charlton said: Ben, alas you are partially correct. When I read the page yesterday it read, “Both were born outside the country — Duckworth in Thailand — etc.”; but some months ago I had the full text you quote above; now the “Both were born…Thailand” has been removed.
It reads instead: ” Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai’i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have “a kama’aina connection.” Both graduated from high schools in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively. ”
The page itself says, if you look at its internal characteristics, that it was modified on Oct. 16, 2009; seeing that it was still Oct. 15th in Hawaii, when you made your comment, the editing was done by someone in the Mainland USA.
Damn fine work. Let’s keep up the pressure.
Mr. Charlton,
You mentioned the unedited C-Span version of the debates between Obama and Keyes in 2004…I have two questions about that…
1 – Which of the 3 debates did the comment about Obama publicly admitting he was not a natural born citizen happen in, and
2 – Do you have or know anyone who would have access to C-Spans copy of the one in question…
Just one thought on this…considering the article about the AP story and if C-Span has video footage with Obama actually saying this, then I would think it would go pretty viral, even if it’s just on Fox…this is huge and I would think people would be all over this…
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Mr. Charlton replies: See the latest post.
I got excited, then I found a transcript of the debate on FreeRepublic from Oct. 27, 2004……unfortunately, Mr. Charlton has his facts wrong as I read the entire transcript and nowhere does the exchange take place between Keyes and Obama…….
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Mr. Charlton replies: Since you can read, start by reading my report. I was refering to the unedited version of the debates shown on C-Span; is that the transcript you found? — No, it’s not; as a matter of fact I spoke with the citizen who diligently searched the Keyes’ archives online and asked his campaign office aobut this, more than 9 months ago; he was told that they never published transcripts or video or audio of the uncut debates; only of the final version.
This site claims Obama was born at Queen’s Medical Center. I know his sister said this at one point. Now he claims it was Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children.
[Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas.]
http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/barack_obama.htm
Barack Obama II should resign. Court cases bring forth the truth, and truth can be embarassing to more than Barack Obama II.
There is great deal of nontrivial evidence that Obuma was born in Kenya, including signed, stamped, certified copies of birth documents–one being a birth certificate complete with footprint. I submit that the reason Obuma did not release his Hawaiian birth certificate long ago is that he doesn’t have one.
Where is the birth certificate? KENYA.
Can anyone get a transcript or video of obama/keyes debate where the usurper said “so what?” That was obama answer to keyes stating obama not natural born.
IXQUICK search engine has a wonder breakdown of this issue. It doesn’t seem to have been scrubbed. I do not use Google anymore because of the huge connection with the Obama Administration and now because of the excellent research by the Post and Email. Keep up the good work. He will be brought down by the weight of his own lies.
Read the following article very carefully!
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
Since Obama’s maternal grandmother (38 years old when Obama born) unilaterally submitted birth info to Hawaii (generating the COLB), not Obama’s ‘mother’ (then 18 years old), who’s to say Obama’s grandmother is not his mother!?!
AND MOREOVER, WHO’S TO SAY OBAMA’S ‘GRANDMOTHER’ A/K/A ACTUAL MOTHER DIDN’T GIVE BIRTH IN KENYA!
(Everyone’s been tracking a timeline of possible goings and comings from Kenya, but maybe they’re tracking the wrong “mother”.)
Why not just ASK Obama? I mean, he’s currently in the WH on his third term while Biden is his puppet and using an underground WH stage set to do press conferences.