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by Sharon Rondeau

(Oct. 27, 2022) — In an interview Tuesday with associate Brannon Howse, MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell responded to a question about when he plans to release data allegedly collected from the 2020 election by stating that “judges” must see the information prior to its dissemination to general public.

Lindell’s statement is another in his ongoing narrative claiming that “PCAPS,” or “packet captures,” allegedly recorded in real time by former government subcontractor Dennis Montgomery as the election unfolded, demonstrate that China carried out a “cyberwarfare attack” on voting machines across the nation, altering votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.

Lindell’s comments on the subject begin at approximately the 41:30 mark in response to a female caller whose name is pronounced “Du-wan.”

Lindell has also embraced Montgomery’s claim, first reported by Mary Fanning and Alan Jones of The American Report on October 31, 2020, that a government mega-computer Montgomery allegedly “built” dubbed “The Hammer” and accompanying software, “Scorecard,” were used by bad government actors to change the outcome of the presidential race.

For approximately six weeks prior to his Cyber Symposium held in August 2021, Lindell said he was set to release the PCAPS on the second day of the conference. However, on the second day, Lindell announced that a “poison pill” was found to pose a threat to the evidence, preventing him from keeping that pledge.

A year later at his “The Moment of Truth Summit,” Lindell told his audience that a “gag order” prevented the release of the PCAPS at the Cyber Symposium to the present time.

On August 20, 2022, coinciding with the Summit, Lindell’s legal team filed a Motion to Intervene in a 2006 case Montgomery had brought against his then-business partner, Warren Trepp, for alleged copyright infringement by eTreppid, the company they co-founded in 1998. As the case proceeded, then-Director of National Intelligence (DNI) John Negroponte filed a request with the court to place a protective order via the State Secrets Privilege over certain information relating to eTreppid’s contractual work with the U.S. Defense Department.

On August 29, 2007, U.S. District Judge Philip Pro granted Negroponte’s request, limiting the information to be withheld to that concerning “any intelligence agency.”

Both Montgomery’s litigation and Trepp’s countersuit were settled in September 2008.

Lindell’s attorneys argued in their August 20, 2022 Motion that as Lindell possesses Montgomery’s information from the 2020 election and the technology behind it, the court should lift the protective order so that Lindell can publicly invoke the material to defend himself in a pending defamation lawsuit against Dominion Voting Systems, Inc.

On October 6, the U.S. Justice Department’s Civil Division, Federal Programs Branch filed a reply brief in which it wrote that Lindell is not held to the 2007 protective order and that none of the information protected from disclosure involves technology or information associated with elections.

In an appearance at a Trump rally on October 9, Lindell indicated he anticipated releasing the PCAPS while also announcing that his attorneys have issued subpoenas to former CIA Director John Brennan, Negroponte, former FBI General Counsel James Baker, and former DNI James Clapper under Barack Obama in apparent connection with the Motion to Intervene. “Everybody’s gonna be vindicated, and then we will start the meltdown of these voting machines,” he told RSBN’s Brian Glenn.

On Friday, Lindell’s legal team filed a response to the Justice Department asking the court to issue an order stipulating the government’s position.

At 41:41, Howse opened the show to callers with questions for Lindell, the first of whom was Duwan from Wyoming. After complimenting Lindell on his pillows and the show, Duwan indicated she has “always believed in Dennis Montgomery” and had followed Fanning’s work for a period of time. “…I knew about ‘The Hammer,’ but I want to know when the PCAPS are going to be released; we’re getting down to the wire,” she said.

“The PCAPS aren’t going to do anything for the midterm election,” Lindell responded but remarking that his lawyers “do want those subpoenas.” On Wednesday or Thursday, he said, Montgomery “is going to be putting in, in Nevada…his Declaration — it’s kind-of like he’s with me so that we can release everything, or something like that. I’m not real sure on that. But I will tell you this: these subpoenas are very important to this.”

A 194-page “Declaration” signed by Montgomery was filed August 20 with Lindell’s Motion to Intervene.

“This needs to be done so perfect,” Lindell continued, mentioning the “$6B-worth of lawsuits” filed against him by voting[-equipment companies from what he termed, “lawfare.” “One simple hammer of ‘The Hammer'” would put an end to the litigation, he told Duwan. “It’s gonna happen.”

He described Montgomery’s material as “a movie of the whole election from the third to the sixth.”…It’s like having a camera on the whole election, and then that actually will validates [sic] all the other stuff like the Mesa County stuff,” he said, referring to questions and arrests arising in Mesa County, CO over voting-machine protocols.

“Just be patient…believe me, it’s gonna get out there now that the government says it can, but we’ve gotta do it the right way, and there’s no precedence for this,” Lindell said in his lengthy response-turned-soliloquy.

He lodged criticism at the media for not “talking about it,” including Lindell’s alleged evidence in the form of an “image” from a Mesa County voting machine which Lindell said he has displayed “since February.”

“If we play this card, when we play this hand, it’s gotta coincide with not just showing it all to the public, but it has to go before judges,” Lindell, a one-time Las Vegas card-counter, continued. “…because if the media doesn’t report it, you’re not gonna win anything in the court of public opinion. You’re gonna have to do it before a judge…”

U.S. District Judge Miranda Du, who is presiding over the reopened Montgomery v. eTreppid case, has not yet issued a responsive order.

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  1. Lindell’s justification for his not releasing the PCAPS sounds similar to Klayman’s justification for not releasing Montgomery’s hard drives during Montgomery’s defamation lawsuit. As well as Zullo and Gallups’ justification for not releasing their reports.