by Sharon Rondeau
(Sep. 12, 2021) — In an interview Friday with The Gateway Pundit, 45th President of the United States Donald J. Trump said he believes the November 3, 2020 presidential election will be “decertified.”
He did not offer a time frame for when he believes that might occur.
Lasting approximately 30 minutes and covering such topics as the United States’ withdrawal from Afghanistan, the upcoming 9/11 commemorations, national security, the economy and inflation, the 2024 presidential race and election fraud, TGP founder Jim Hoft, along with his twin brother Joe, raised the question of fraud in the election which Trump has said since November 4 he won.
The exchange with Trump begins at the 12:35 mark following an introduction and discussion of the founding of TGP between the brothers.
Trump decried Joe Biden’s handling of the Afghanistan exit which left the nation in the control of the Taliban, a terrorist group known for its brutality toward women as well as Biden’s decision to leave behind approximately $85 billion in military equipment. Further, Trump said, the Biden regime “handed them [the Taliban] a list of everybody and the addresses where they are,” meaning Americans and allies. “I think this will be a September 11th of great sorrow,” Trump opined.
“Who are these people that would do that? They handed them a list of people,” Trump said at 22:27. “It’s not even believable.”
Of the Taliban’s regaining control over Afghanistan, Trump remarked, “It’s very unfair to all the people that died in Afghanistan…After all these years, they’re far advanced than where they were 20 years ago…it’s a great embarrassment.”
Joe Hoft then asked on behalf of a reader from Italy whether or not Trump plans to “lead the free world again.”
“So, Joe, I think you’re going to be very happy,” Trump said, reiterating a response from previous recent interviews that “campaign finance laws” prohibit him from saying one way or the other.
Returning to the topic of the abandoned military equipment, he said, “There’s never been a period like this in the history of our country,” then bridged to the high-inflation days of the Jimmy Carter administration which some fear could soon see a reprise.
At 25:48, Joe Hoft changed the subject to the 2020 election and a recent citizen-led canvass in Maricopa County, AZ reporting significant numbers of “lost votes” and “ghost votes” far exceeding the reported difference between Trump and Biden reported at 10,457.
“We believe you were absolutely true about this election,” Hoft told Trump. “We’ve been following it…I’m an auditor by trade, and it didn’t take an auditor to see that this thing was stolen on many counts.”
“Absolutely,” Trump interjected.
“They found, their estimates, 300,000 ballots that were either counted that shouldn’t have been, or that weren’t counted but should have been,” Joe Hoft continued. “Yet they’re saying Joe Biden won the state by 10,000 votes. Our media won’t share that; we did, but the media won’t. What are your thoughts on that?”
“…Our media is corrupt as can be,” Trump replied, “but the people know what’s going on, because another poll came out; 70-some-odd percent think the election was, to put it very nicely, tampered with. So we had 63 million votes, and we got 75 million votes. I was told if we got 64 million, we couldn’t lose. We got 75 million, the most ever given to a sitting president…we had it won at 10:30 in the evening on Election Day…Pennsylvania, we were up by hundreds of thousands of votes; Arizona, all these places, and then those polling counters closed, and when they opened, gee, we were tied…This was the greatest rigged election…I appreciate your mentioning it because it’s never been a stronger issue…The only problem is the press doesn’t like talking about it, including Fox…This was a rigged election; they used COVID and they used the mail-in ballots to rig the election. We won the election by a lot, and they rigged it, and it’s a terrible thing. And — I do believe they’re going to decertify this election…This is a terrible, terrible thing that happened to our country, and because the press is so dishonest — that’s where cancel culture comes from…they don’t want to talk about the election because they know it was rigged; they know, and they just don’t want to get –… because they can’t justify the facts.”
He then praised Liz Harris, who led the canvass, stating he didn’t know her but that her group found “hundreds of thousands of votes” “all over Arizona” to be at issue, which was inaccurate; the canvass covered only Maricopa County, according to the report.
The canvass is unaffiliated with the official state-senate-sponsored Maricopa County forensic election audit whose results are expected to be released in the near future.
Of the state of Arizona, Trump said, “I lost in a very close number. But we were way up ahead. Remember when Fox announced Arizona? So it sounds like Fox must have known something, because we were way ahead, and then all of a sudden they announced we were going to lose it, so somebody’s going to have to ask Fox if they knew something.”