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by Sharon Rondeau

Radio show host and pastor Carl Gallups

(Sep. 19, 2014) — On Friday, KNUS radio show host Peter Boyles hosted “Freedom Friday” radio host Carl Gallups to discuss the lingering questions about the background of Barack Hussein Obama.

Gallups has been on the air for a dozen years and is pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, FL.  He is bestselling author of The Magic Man in the Sky and The Rabbi Who Found Messiah and worked in Florida law enforcement for a decade in two sheriffs’ offices.

During the interview, Gallups explained how he first became aware of claims that Obama might not be a United States citizen, which was suggested to him by a listener to his show in 2008, when Obama was campaigning for the presidency.  At that time, Gallups was doubtful that an individual without U.S. citizenship would have been permitted to run for president.

Gallups recounted that Obama’s literary agent had published that Obama was “born in Kenya” from 1991, before his first book was released, until April 2007, which was two months after Obama declared himself a presidential candidate.

Fellow presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was widely quoted as having said publicly to Obama that he did not qualify for the presidency as a “natural born Citizen,” as is required of the highest office in the land by Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

Gallups said that after he learned of the investigation of the Maricopa County, AZ Cold Case Posse into the image posted on the White House website purported to be Obama’s long-form birth certificate, he began inviting lead investigator Mike Zullo and Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who authorized the investigation, on his show.

On March 1, 2012, Zullo and Arpaio held the first of two press conferences in which they declared Obama’s long-form birth certificate and Selective Service registration form “computer-generated forgeries.”  The second presser on July 17 of that year provided more detail as to how their conclusions were reached.

After Zullo consented to be interviewed for the first time, Gallups said he forged a professional and to some degree, a personal relationship with Zullo, accompanying him to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in March 2013 to reveal some of the evidence the posse had gathered to “VIPs” in attendance.

Gallups told Boyles that he is now often interviewed on the Cold Case Posse’s work.  He said that from his experience as a deputy sheriff, he performed criminal investigations of his own.  “A good law enforcement officer is a conspiracy theorist,” Gallups explained, stating that any investigation then includes a forensic investigation to determine whether or not “a legal case” exists.

On Tuesday, The Post & Email published an exclusive interview with Zullo in which he stated that long-anticipated new information stemming from the birth certificate investigation will be released at a press conference in the future “independent of any other outside source.”

During the interview, Boyles asked Gallups, “Do we have the original birth certificate of Barack Obama?” to which Gallups answered, “No, we do not have the original birth certificate of Barack Obama. I don’t think anyone has it that I know of unless it’s buried somewhere in the archives in Hawaii.”

Boyles asked Gallups whether or not Obama’s parents’ records and Obama’s own documentation, including his elementary, high school and college records, have been made available in their original paper form.  Gallups answered “no” until Boyles said, “Selective Service registration?” to which Gallups responded, “There’s been some research done on it, but nothing in the way of a verified original that I’m aware of.”

Boyles read from a long list of records and documents which Obama has never released.  “We know more about [President] Rutherford B. Hayes than we know about Barack Hussein Obama,” Boyles concluded.

The Obama Timeline” author, Don Fredrick, was Boyles’s guest earlier this week and will join him again next week.  Boyles raised the question of “coincidences” written about by Fredrick in an essay which was widely published on the internet beginning in 2012.

Gallups explained that Zullo “answers directly” to Arpaio as the chief investigator of the Cold Case Posse.  Boyles asked Gallups why the investigation was launched, to which Gallups replied that Arpaio’s constituents had asked for a probe in response to reports that the image posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 was a forgery.  “Sheriff Arpaio got his Cold Case Posse together, got Mike Zullo, put him in as commander, and he said to Mike Zullo, ‘Mike, I want to be the man that exonerates Barack Obama in this “birther” issue…I want to settled this once and for all.'”

Zullo reportedly agreed to take the assignment and believed that the posse would make short shrift of reports that it was a forgery.  After several days, however, the posse concluded that there were anomalies in the image requiring further investigation.

Boyles asked Gallups “Where’s that announcement?  When is it coming?” in reference to the anticipated press conference at which new information will be released.  Gallups responded that a presser was tentatively scheduled for March of this year but was postponed because of “monumental information” which “began to come in” in January.  “It was deep and dark,” he said.  Gallups explained that Zullo and Arpaio then investigated the new information because it appeared to include “possible criminal activity” in Maricopa County and emanated “right from the White House.”

Gallups said that at that point, there were two investigations, the newer of which required extensive travel and more time to complete.  Boyles said that while he is “a huge fan of Sheriff Joe,” he has wondered why promises of a press conference were made and not kept.

Gallups responded that a firm date was never set, although they had reason to believe that the presser could be held on “March 14.”  He then said that he is privy to “about 80% of what they know” and that it is “huge.”  “If they fumble this, Peter, it’s over,” he told Boyles.

Zullo told Gallups that he could release to Boyles’s audience that the press conference will happen “sooner rather than later” and is not tied to the November 4 election.  Gallups said that Zullo has been “tying up some loose ends and bringing it all together.”  He described Arpaio as “hot and heavy on the trail of who actually did this,” referring to the birth certificate forgery.  “This is going to be some surprising, astounding information when it’s all released,” he told Boyles.

Like Zullo with The Post & Email, Gallups mentioned the considerable “speculation” being made by various individuals who equate it to “evidence.”  “Evidence is not speculation,” Gallups said emphatically.  “For example, there have been statements as to who fabricated or who manipulated the birth certificate…” Gallups said.  For the first time, he revealed that, according to Zullo, the forger was not the late Loretta Fuddy, former Director of the Hawaii Department of Health.  Fuddy died last December 11 after the small plane in which she was traveling on state business was forced to make a water landing.

“Zullo knows who made it,” Gallups stated.

Boyles then said that during their 45-minute conversation, he had not “heard anything new,” although he invited Gallups to return to his show next week.

Boyles asked Gallups for a closing statement, to which Gallups responded that Zullo has reported that those conducting the investigations “are in the final stages” of their work.  “It goes all the way to the White House, and they’ve got one shot at it,” he said.

Boyles acknowledged that Zullo and Arpaio have “risked their careers” to carry out the investigations.  “You believe that these guys have the bomb?” he asked Gallups, who replied, “Yes.”

Gallups’s voice then announced that he is scheduled to return to speak with Boyles on Tuesday, September 23, at 9:00 a.m. EDT.

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