“THE CORRECT THING TO DO”
by Sharon Rondeau
While Obama reportedly won the November election, Bailey believes that it was by means of fraud. “There’s no question about it,” he told The Post & Email.
The organization also seeks to compel Congress to initiate an investigation into the events surrounding the terrorist attack on a U.S. outpost in Benghazi, Libya on September 11-12, 2012 in which four Americans died, including the ambassador to that country.
Bailey’s thoughts on politics, Benghazi, the military and the role of Special Operations Speaks follow.
CAPT. BAILEY: It’s incredible, but this country is going down the tubes because of its elected officials, and because the people are not doing enough to hold our elected officials’ feet to the fire.
THE POST & EMAIL: What more do you think the people could do to turn things around?
CAPT. BAILEY: There are several different things you can do. The left wins because when the right starts to gain some advantage, the left ridicules them in any way possible. In fact, if they can’t come up with something legitimate, they’ll make something up out of whole cloth, and by the time the truth gets out, the damage has been done. Saul Alinsky knew what he was writing about, and Cloward & Piven knew what they were writing out, and Piven still does. They know how to convince people to vote the wrong way. The people on the right are not interested in learning how to win political battles; all they want to do is what keeps the country alive, which is to be in the business of business and keep the wheels of progress turning. They think it’s always going to be that way, but it’s not.
We’re losing, and the people with the ability to underwrite efforts like ours need to get busy and help us to do what we do best or we’re going to continue to lose. For example, Dick Brauer and I were the founders of Special Operations Speaks, and the only money we’ve taken is direct compensation for airplane tickets. We don’t even get a per diem. Every single thing we do is on our own nickel. We’d like for some billionaire to underwrite us and at least give me some money to donate to charity myself (laughs) instead of being the charity.
THE POST & EMAIL: Is there a limit to how much someone can donate to you?
CAPT. BAILEY: No, as a PAC, there’s no limit. I would love to talk to anybody of ample resources and tell them how I envision Special Operations Speaks working in the future. We know how to win elections, but unfortunately, it takes money from people like us to win elections. We have to convince somebody to invest enough in us to enable us to hire an executive director and an office staff.
THE POST & EMAIL: Other political action committees have done that.
CAPT. BAILEY: Yes, they have. We never hired a professional PR manager, which was probably a mistake, but then again, we can look people in the eye and say, “We did it all ourselves.”
THE POST & EMAIL: What are some of the other missions with which SOS is involved?
CAPT. BAILEY: Benghazi is our #1 mission. We are obviously interested in several other things concerning Special Operations, specifically, the plan to integrate women into combat Special Operations units, which is absolutely absurd. Anybody who goes to evaluate the facts knows it’s absurd, but Obama and his people have the military cowed enough that they’ve agreed to go along with it. So once we have the Benghazi thing sorted out, you’ll see us weigh in on that, but as it is right now, we are mission-oriented on Benghazi. Those four Americans were essentially killed from neglect tantamount to manslaughter.
Here we get all concerned about George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin and whether or not it was manslaughter or second-degree murder, and half the people in the Obama administration are guilty of the same type of neglect that would satisfy the requirements to convict somebody for manslaughter.
THE POST & EMAIL: How far would you say you have gotten in your effort to gain the attention of members of Congress? Has a formal investigation been launched?
CAPT. BAILEY: There was a committee meeting. My co-founder, Col. Dick Brauer, put together a list of 16 questions that they recommended anybody interested in the problem ask the participants such as Hillary Clinton and her underlings, things like “Where was the nearest aid?” “If the F-16s at Aviano Air Base were stood up, when were they told to stand down?” “Who gave the order to stand down?” Dick came up with a brilliant series of questions. They are actually asking these questions, and they’ve taken on a life of their own. We’re trying to give Congress the tools they need to unravel what happened in Benghazi.
We essentially know what happened; Dick put a timeline together, and we feel that we know what happened. We don’t know all the reasons why. I think there’s a good case to be made that a deal was cut between President Morsi of Egypt and Obama to allow the capture of our ambassador, and he would be traded for the Blind Sheikh, who was convicted in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. There’s a lot of indication that exactly is what happened, because the bad guys did not intend to kill Amb. Stevens, and they didn’t kill him directly; he died of smoke inhalation.
THE POST & EMAIL: Adm. Ace Lyons said that to Megyn Kelly several months ago. Have you seen any evidence to support that theory?
CAPT. BAILEY: I haven’t seen anything, but a letter was posted from a Libyan intelligence official on Walid Shoebat’s website which said that Morsi knew what was going down and was a part of the planning. If that doesn’t fit the paradigm I just described to you, I don’t know what would.
[Editor’s Note: Shoebat has published other evidence indicating that Morsi could have been involved in the Benghazi attack.]
THE POST & EMAIL: Would you say Congress is making progress on this as you would like?
CAPT. BAILEY: No, not at all, and that’s why we’ve having the big rally on July 23, to put pressure on Boehner to unilaterally form a select committee. Right now, he’s reluctant to do it; I don’t know why, because it looks like a made-to-order political “gotcha.” But for some reason, he won’t do it, so we’re trying to put enough pressure on him to give him the moral courage to establish a select committee with powers of subpoena to bring in Gen. Ham, Adm. Gaouette, all of the Special Operations Forces and let them testify under oath as to what they know about Benghazi.
THE POST & EMAIL: Is Gen. Ham officially retired?
CAPT. BAILEY: He’s still commander of AFRICOM. We put out an all-hands notice on our website asking people to look for Adm. Gaouette. I have a retired Navy captain who’s been talking to four-star admirals and everyone else trying to find out what happened to Adm. Gaouette. He lives up in the Seattle, WA area. He is not in communication with anybody and probably won’t be. But as far as we’ve been able to determine, the Stennis Strike Group, which he commanded, was in the Straits of Malaka at the time Benghazi went down and was absolutely inactive. All the rumors were that he was going to launch airplanes to help the guys, but they were out of range; they couldn’t have done it anyway, according to that version of the story. But that’s why we need a select committee to subpoena Adm. Gaouette about what happened to him; he has clearly suffered a career hit.
THE POST & EMAIL: So we don’t know if what happened to him was related to Benghazi or not?
CAPT. BAILEY: We don’t know. I have to say that I am agnostic about the whole situation.
THE POST & EMAIL: As far as Carter Ham, do you think the same thing applies to him? Did he disobey a stand-down order?
CAPT. BAILEY: Right now, if I had to make the call regarding the correct answer, I would say that Carter Ham was not part of the decision-making process.
THE POST & EMAIL: But Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey said he was.
CAPT. BAILEY: That’s right.
THE POST & EMAIL: I read on the House Armed Services Committee website that they want to talk with Col. George Bristol. Do you have any idea where he is?
CAPT. BAILEY: No, I don’t. We have put out the word that we’d like to find him, but at the same time, we say, if Congress wants to find somebody, they’ll find him. He’s drawing a retirement check; he has a post office box or street address. I guarantee you that I could find George Bristol if you gave me enough resources to work with.
THE POST & EMAIL: Do you know if the idea of a grand jury being assembled has ever been suggested to Congress?
CAPT. BAILEY: I don’t know if that’s even constitutionally feasible, but it would be interesting to know that, and I would encourage you to ask that question rhetorically. I would love to see something like that happen.
[Editor’s Note: The Post & Email raised the question of Congress convening a special grand jury to examine evidence of crimes on the part of government officials with the office of Rep. Tom Marino, who told radio show host David Madeira that he will pursue criminal charges “with every fiber of my body.”
THE POST & EMAIL: Is there anything else you think Congress could be doing to move it forward?
CAPT. BAILEY: I think the Republicans are foolish for not advertising the inadequacy of their response to the Benghazi terror attack. They just kind-of roll along with it. Congressman Frank Wolf was a fire-eater at first, and now he’s backed down. We think Boehner has threatened him. The Republicans need to stand up for what they know in their heart of hearts is the correct thing to do.
THE POST & EMAIL: Why do you think they seem so timid?
CAPT. BAILEY: They’re always afraid of not being re-elected. The Republicans just don’t like the “We” word, but we do. We should get together on the same sheet of music and not worry about re-election, and if they did that, I believe that it would assure that the House and the Senate would be in Republican hands for a time. But as it is, they’re pandering to people who are illiterate, who can’t vote, and who don’t know anything about what’s going on.
THE POST & EMAIL: What else can people do to get involved?
CAPT. BAILEY: Write their congressman and come to the rally on July 23 at 12:00 noon on the steps of the U.S. Capitol. Come with signs, demand information and a full investigation of what happened in Benghazi and the formation of a select committee and appointment of a special prosecutor. Look at the comparison with Watergate; nobody died in Watergate. No significant things even happened as a result of Watergate. Nixon lied and he was hounded out of office. Obama continues to lie, and his hold on the office is stronger than ever. The American people need to demand a response from the Obama administration. They have to understand that the tools of the media are in the hands of the Obamaites. They need to get out and demand, on Tuesday the 23rd at noon, that Boehner appoint a special prosecutor and a formal select committee.
[Editor’s Note: Directly after finishing our interview with Capt. Bailey, an email notification from Rep. Steve Stockman’s office arrived stating that Stockman will be “forcing action” on [the] Benghazi investigation” based on an original resolution authored by Rep. Frank Wolf.
Stockman will also be speaking at the event next Tuesday on the steps of the Capitol.]