COULD THEY BE GUILTY OF DEFAMATION?
by Sharon Rondeau
(Sep. 23, 2012) — On August 1, 2012, The Post & Email submitted a request under the Tennessee Public Records law (TCA 10-7-101) to the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security for information pertaining to the law enforcement DVD entitled “Suspicious Activity Reporting” dealing with the “Sovereign Citizen Movement.”
The pertinent act reads:
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© 2012 by The State of Tennessee
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*** CURRENT THROUGH THE 2012 REGULAR SESSION ***
Title 10 Public Libraries, Archives And Records
Chapter 7 Public Records
Part 1 Preserving and Transcribing Records
Tenn. Code Ann. § 10-7-101 (2012)
10-7-101. “Records” construed.
“Records,” as used in this part, shall be construed to mean any records of the county legislative body and common law, circuit, criminal, or chancery court, the register’s books, the surveyor’s and entry taker’s book, and all other public records, required by law to be kept in the several courts of this state.
HISTORY: Acts 1879, ch. 115, § 2; Shan., § 3793; Code 1932, § 7698; impl. am. Acts 1978, ch. 934, §§ 7, 36; T.C.A. (orig. ed.), § 15-101.
The training DVD is presented in several sections and narrated by several individuals with experience in law enforcement, one of whom lost his son when a father and son opened fire on May 20, 2010, killing him and another officer. The father and son were identified as “sovereign citizens” and had been previously noted to have voiced threats against law enforcement. Both were killed after taking the lives of the police officers.
The Post & Email has reported on the training program since we were made aware of it in late April of this year, including the Power Point section which depicts Darren Wesley Huff and Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III as “sovereign citizens.” Also included in the category are “Birthers,” who have doubts about Obama’s birth in Hawaii. On that slide, Obama’s purported short-form birth certificate is shown rather than the long-form released on April 27, 2011. Both have been declared forgeries by computer forensics experts, and an investigative entity in Maricopa County, AZ has declared both the long-form certificate and Obama’s Selective Service registration for to be fraudulent.
An attorney and private investigator have made public that they believe that the Social Security number Obama is using was not originally issued to him, but rather, to a resident of Connecticut born in 1890, which the private investigator said she found while looking in a secure database.
Our original request to the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security reads:
From: Sharon Rondeau
Sent:Wed 8/01/12 8:06 AM
To: rick.shipkowski@tn.gov
Cc: amy.tosh@tn.gov
Good morning. I operate an electronic newspaper, The Post & Email, which is mentioned in a training program for law enforcement officers circulated throughout Tennessee and nationally entitled “Suspicious Activity Reporting.”
This communication is to file a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain the following documentation:
1. How your staff determined that Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III and Darren Wesley Huff were “sovereign citizens” when Fitzpatrick has met three times with FBI agents to tell them that he is not.
2. Who made the decision to include their names with murderers in the “Sovereign Citizen” training program produced by your agency, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Department of Defense, and the U.S. Department of Justice.
3. Who made the decision to include my company’s name, “The Post & Email,” in the training program. Fitzpatrick, Huff and The Post & Email are mentioned in the Power Point section of the program.
4. Documentation of how the TBI reached the decision that approximately 100 police officers were necessary in Madisonville, TN on April 20, 2010, on which Fitzpatrick had an assignment hearing.
5. Documentation of any suspicious activity your agency noted on April 20, 2010 as well as pursuant to the arrest of Darren Wesley Huff on April 30, 2010.
6. Documentation of the individuals within your agency who assisted in assembling the training program.
Thank you very much.
Sharon Rondeau, Owner/Editor
The Post & Email
www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT 06076
203-987-7948
On August 10, we received a two-page letter from the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security signed by “Lizabeth Hale, Staff Attorney, Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security.”
The letter stated that normally, Tennessee Public Records requests are granted only to Tennessee residents, but that since The Post & Email was considered “a reporter,” the department would comply with our request.
Hale’s response stated that our first three items were for “information,” “which is not contemplated by the Tennessee Public Records Act.”
Regarding the fourth item, the letter said that the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation was the custodian of the records we sought. We therefore wrote a letter to the TBI exactly one month ago:
August 23, 2012
Tennessee Bureau of Investigation
901 R.S. Gass Boulevard
Nashville, TN 37216
Dear Sir or Madam:
RE: REQUEST FOR INFORMATION UNDER TENNESSEE OPEN RECORDS ACT
Please find enclosed a copy of a letter received from the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security regarding an open records request submitted on August 1, 2012, a copy of which is also enclosed.
I am specifically asking that your agency address item #4 referenced in the letter, the records for which the Department of Safety and Homeland Security states you are the custodian.
In addition, I am submitting a second request for any and all documentation generated in the production of the TBI/FBI “Suspicious Activity Reporting” DVD which includes a PowerPoint section depicting Darren Wesley Huff, now in federal prison, and Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III as “Sovereign Citizens.” I am requesting any documentation which contains references to “The Post & Email,” “Post and Email,” “Post and E-Mail,” or any variation thereof which was included in a slide on the training program in association with Fitzpatrick’s name.
The training program contains a slide which depicts “Birthers” as “Sovereign Citizens.” Has any documentation been produced to update that slide to indicate that a later birth certificate of Obama’s, the “long-form” presented to the public on April 27, 2011, has been declared “definitely fraudulent” by the Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff’s Office? If so, I would like a copy of it. If not, is there a written plan to do so?
I would like copies of documentation on file which contains the names of all personnel from your agency who contributed to the production of this training program. I am also requesting documentation exchanged between and among individuals at the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation regarding the production of the “SAR” DVD.
If there is a document which lists all of the law enforcement offices to which the DVD was distributed upon its completion, I would appreciate a copy of that as well.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Sharon Rondeau, Editor
The Post & Email
www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT 06076
The state of Tennessee mandates a seven-day response time to Open Records request, but the TBI has not provided a response to our request.
The fifth item in our letter addressed to the Department of Safety and Homeland Security was responded to by the following:
The Department is currently in the process of retrieving, reviewing, and/or redacting the records in request 5. By September 7, 2012, either the records you have requested [sic] receive copies of will be available or a determination of accessibility and availability will be made regarding the requested records.
Hale requested that Item #6 of our request be clarified. On August 23, we sent the following email to our initial contacts, Mr. Rick Shipkowski and Ms. Amy Tosh:
Thank you very much for your letter in regard to my open records request of August 1, 2012 through your letter of August 10, 2012 (attached).
Per your instructions, I have addressed item #4 with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
Regarding item #6, the title of the training program to which I have referred is “Sovereign Citizens and Law Enforcement” and begins with a depiction of Jerry Kane, who, with his son on May 20, 2010, shot two police officers during a traffic stop in West Memphis, AR. At 1:05 into the DVD, West Memphis Police Chief Robert Paudert begins to narrate the presentation about “sovereign citizens” who are “willing to kill and be killed for these beliefs.” The perpetrators are described as “radical right extremists” at 11:19 into the video. At the end of the section, credit for the production of the video is given to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The training program contains a Power Point section which features the persons named in my previous email, Darren Wesley Huff and Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III.
The fourth section of the DVD is entitled “Suspicious Activity Reporting: Line Officer Training” and was produced by an organization called “NSI.”
I understand that you are searching for documentation addressing item #5.
If you need further information to fulfill this request, please let me know.
Thank you very much.
Sharon Rondeau, Editor
The Post & Email
www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT 06076
As promised, a letter was written on September 7, 2012 regarding the status of our Public Records request which reads as follows:
After receiving the letter, The Post & Email contacted someone whom we knew had been involved in the creation, instruction or both of the “SAR” training program. As the person was not authorized to speak on the record, we will not reveal the identity. The person told us:
- He or she had never heard of “The Post & Email” and asked for the slide number on which the company’s name appeared in the training curriculum.
- He or she confirmed Atty. Hale’s statement that there “was no documentation” of the individuals involved in creating the program. “A bunch of us all just sat down and wrote it,” we were told.
- We were also told, “If you have an attorney talking to you, stick with her. I’ve been told, anything having to do with this program has to be addressed by Ms. Hale.”
- He or she said that the section of the program dealing with Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III and Darren Wesley Huff was not familiar to him or her. It was suggested to The Post & Email that that section was added afterward without the knowledge of the original team which had composed the curriculum.
The person gave us an email address where he or she could be reached so as to send the slide number on which The Post & Email was mentioned. Our email to the person with relevant attachments later that day reads:
Thank you for speaking with me this morning. Attached are various components of the training program. [Sentence deleted to protect identity.] The summary at the end of the Lesson Plan refers to a Power Point presentation.
On the cover sheet, the shootout in West Memphis, AR is stated as having occurred in May 2011, which is incorrect. The SAR video part of the program states that it occurred in May 2010 and is corroborated by news reports. The cover sheet also refers to a Power Point presentation at the bottom.
The “Sovereign Citizen Slides” mention Walter Fitzpatrick and Darren Huff.
My newspaper, The Post & Email (stated in the program as “the Post and Email”) is mentioned in Slide 29 of the Talking Points.
As full disclosure, I will be forwarding relevant materials to Atty. Hale in furtherance of my Open Records request.
Sharon Rondeau, Editor
The Post & Email
www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT 06076
203-987-7948
The first attachment was a 26-page PDF of the Power Point section of the training program. The father and son who killed the police officers, Jerry and Joe Kane, are depicted on pages 4, 5 and 6 of the document. At the bottom of page 9, the “Birther Movement” has its own slide containing the text, “Birthers contest President Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold office. This is based on the belief he was not born in the United States and has provided a forged Hawaiian birth certificate.”
Huff and Fitzpatrick are depicted on pages 10, 11 and 12 of the Power Point presentation, after which a slide appears which says, “Finally……Take a 10 Minute Break.” At the top of that slide appears the lettering, “U/FOUO/LES”. The Post & Email has been informed by an outside party that the abbreviation stands for:
Unclassified/For Official Use Only/Law Enforcement Sensitive
Although the person we spoke with said he or she had no knowledge of a Power Point presentation having been included in the training curriculum, the following training outline indicates that the Power Point section was part of the program as taught by the instructors:
What the slide does not say is that Fitzpatrick has claimed from the beginning that his court-martial was a conspiracy to oust him from the U.S. Navy, that he was honorably discharged with multiple awards and commendations, and that he maintains that criminal activity took place among the officers who arranged for a forgery of his signature to be placed in his file, which was located only years after the proceedings in the back of a storage closet.
Despite the person with knowledge of the program saying that he or she had “never heard of” The Post & Email before, on page 5 of the “Talking Points” which accompany the slide show, our name appears under the caption “Slide 29,” although expressed incorrectly:
Fitzpatrick and Huff were also described as “promoters of armed confrontation with government” and “sovereign citizens” by Barton Gellman in a TIME Magazine article dated September 30, 2010. “Gellman went to a lot of places and he talked to government officials. He said he spoke with alleged militia members, but he didn’t interview me. He said that the reason Pettway was placed under citizen’s arrest was that ‘he refused to indict Obama for treason.’ He called Pettway a ‘real grand jury foreman.’ But we had found him to be standing illegally in a grand jury for 28 years,” Fitzpatrick said.
The Sovereign Citizen “Lesson Plan cover sheet” is dated “08/01/2011.” Darren Huff was convicted of “carrying a firearm in interstate commerce with the intent to use it in a civil disorder” on October 25, 2011. Several of the witnesses who testified for the U.S. government are now under investigation themselves, including District Attorney General R. Steven Bebb. Bebb has also just been named as a defendant in a federal civil rights violation lawsuit.
In response to Atty. Hale’s September 7 letter, The Post & Email sent the following email:
Good morning, I am in receipt of your captioned letter and have a few questions:
1. Is there another Tennessee department which assisted in assembling the SAR Line Officer Training program other than the Department of Safety and Homeland Security? I sent a request to the TBI weeks ago, but they have not responded, which puts them in violation of Tennessee statute.
2. How can it be that there is no documentation of the contributors to the training program? How was it produced? Your agency is one of those credited with participating in its production.
While I understand that an open records request does not include “information,” per se, it is difficult for me to modify my request when there seems to be an information blackout about this training program which specifically mentions my company and was widely circulated.
In addition, I am submitting the following revised request at this time:
“I am requesting any and all documentation contained within your files over the last four years which contains the term “Sovereign Citizen.”
Thank you very much.
Sharon Rondeau, Editor
The Post & Email
www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT 06076
We have not yet received a response.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, Anti-Defamation League, and “FBI.gov” provided research for the Sovereign Citizen training curriculum. On September 19, the Southern Poverty Law Center testified to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee about the alleged “rising extremist threat,” revealing that “Our staff is recognized for its expertise on domestic extremism, and SPLC President J. Richard Cohen currently serves as an adviser to the Department of Homeland Security’s Countering Violent Extremism Working Group. We train more than 6,000 law enforcement officers each year on the dangers of domestic terrorism and hate crimes from radical-right groups.”
The SPLC has named the American Family Association, Frank Gaffney, Jr., and the Family Research Council to their “Intelligence Files.” It identifies Joseph Farah, Editor of WorldNetDaily, as “the supermarket tabloid publisher of the radical right.” The SPLC names the Alex Jones of the “Patriot Movement” a conspiracist and “anti-Muslim” figures such as Gaffney a “paranoid propagandist.”
The SPLC’s page on Fitzpatrick and Huff is here. Is the SPLC guilty of defamation, the very thing it decries about others?
If you look on wnd.com to see Obama’s new $35 million dollar home that they are purchasing for “his retirement” in Hawaii, you may be convinced that crime does pay! Check this out folks, a friend told me about the latest report and it’s true. I had more of a picture of Bari in a real rundown jail waiting for conviction of Treason, Perjury and Election Fraud. Maybe we could find one like the one they put Walt into with sewage dripping on him at 50degrees on a cold concrete floor. Also, you might want to check out the story that Dr. Manning revealed about 2 years ago but now it’s on wnd.com and covers all the years of Obama’s membership to “Man’s Country” with Rohm Emmanuel in the Chicago men’s gay club. He’s quite a man. Too bad not the right kind for POTUS.
I object to the use of the term ‘Sovereign Citizen.
The phase ‘Sovereign Citizen Movement’ is complexity used to disguise the truth or to evade the truth because it does not reveal the truth. The truth is very complicated.
I would not admit to being a sovereign Citizen or a Sovereign Citizen because there are so many details that need to be known before using that term. If the State you are currently inhabiting is not sovereign then you cannot be sovereign if you inhabit it. If the king of some Country was within a foreign state he may be referred to as a Sovereign but he has no authority as a Sovereign within any foreign states. Because I consider myself as a ‘Citizen’ inhabiting within the boundaries of Kansas a sovereign Union state I could only be a sovereign Citizen if there were no other Lawful Citizens inhabiting within the boundaries or on soil that you privately own which is not possible today because we have a de facto governments.
Generally all men and women inhabiting within a lawful Union states are collectively sovereigns because all of them have the same unalienable Rights. If they were all lawful Citizens of the Union State they would all be sovereign only when they are on soil that they privately own which is not possible today because the de facto governments believes they own your property. Also if you are a Citizen or citizen then you are subject to the government you say that you are subject to or under their protection therefore you are within their jurisdiction.
The first complexity is which dictionary do you use to determine what any term or word means when it comes to the People’s governments, state and Federal? That answer should always be ‘A LAW DICTIONARY ADAPTED TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND OF THE SEVERAL STATES OF THE AMERICAN UNION’ by John Bouvier. We would recommend any edition of this dictionary published before 1857 – http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier.htm.
The term ‘Citizen’ is a proper noun and the term ‘sovereign when used as an adjective could mean one thing to you and another to someone else therefore we will provide the following for your review from Bouvier:
CITIZEN, persons. One who, under the constitution and laws of the United States, has a right to vote for representatives in congress, and other public officers, and who is qualified to fill offices in the gift of the people. In a more extended sense, under the word citizen, are included all white persons born in the United States, and naturalized persons born out of the same, who have not lost their right as such. This includes men, women, and children.
2. Citizens are either native born or naturalized. Native citizens may fill any office; naturalized citizens may be elected or appointed to any office under the constitution of the United States, except the office of president and vice-president. The constitution provides, that “the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.” Art. 4, s. 2.
Note – For whatever reason sometimes you will find small changes that most likely make a big difference and one is found in Art. 4, s. 2. The ‘Constitution for the United States of America’ capitalizes the term Citizen everywhere the term was used and also within the Art. 4, s. 2. The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.” This ‘Constitution for the United States of America’ posted at the government archives also capitalizes the term Citizen – http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html but here – http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiv#section2 the term Citizen is not capitalized. I do not want to go into the ‘complexity’ at this time but to just point out that things have been changed! If these changes change any meanings or intent of the original document then it could be unconstitutional or part of the Conspiracy.
3. All natives are not citizens of the United States; the descendants of the aborigines, and those of African origin, are not entitled to the rights of citizens. Anterior to the adoption of the constitution of the United States, each state had the right to make citizens of such persons as it pleased. That constitution does not authorize any but white persons to become citizens of the United States; and it must therefore be presumed that no one is a citizen who is not white. 1 Litt. R. 334; 10 Conn. R. 340; 1 Meigs, R. 331.
Note – The Federal Constitution does not us the term ‘white’ and also it does not refer to aborigines, and those of African origin. Our 1848 Third Edition of John Bouvier’s Law Dictionary states the same as above. The only requirement beside age was that everyone had to be “Citizen of the United States”.
Note – Another complexity is the title used here – ‘Constitution for the United States of America’ where it uses the word ‘for’ while the other two, the archived and the Cornell one both use the term of.
4. A citizen of the United States, residing in any state of the Union, is a citizen of that state. 6 Pet. 761 Paine, 594;1 Brock. 391; 1 Paige, 183 Metc. & Perk. Dig. h. t.; vide 3 Story’s Const. 1687 Bouv. Inst. Index, b. t.; 2 Kent, Com. 258; 4 Johns. Ch. R. 430; Vatt. B. 1, c. Id, 212; Poth. Des Personnes, tit. 2, s. 1. Vide Body Politic; Inhabitant.
http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_c.htm
Another complexity is that the following resolution had a condition and it was deemed useless to repeat here. This is another rabbit trail that caused the Civil War.
MISSOURI. The name of one of the new states of the United States of America. This state was admitted into the Union by a resolution of congress, approved March 2, 1821, 3 Story’s L. U. S. 1823, by which it is resolved, that Missouri shall be admitted into this Union on an equal footing with the original states, in all respects whatever. To this resolution there is a condition, which having been fulfilled, it is now useless here to repeat. http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_m.htm – The same as our 3rd Edition.
Note – All states were required to have the “equal footing with the original states, in all respects whatever.” What did Slavery have to do with the state governments and why is it that the Federal Government voted in that every other new state had to allow Slavery and the next not allow Slavery? That was the condition that every other would be a Slave state.
Can you say Un-Constitutional? The Federal Government made this happen which was one of the causes of the American Civil War. Slavery was a crime because every man and women were all stolen and then sold via a contract. Anything even a contract dealing with stolen anything is in my view unlawful. President Lincoln knew about this fact and believed in time that Slavery for anyone would end. This researcher believes that there would not be a war if it wasn’t for the banklords. Read about the plot to create the war in Lincoln’s House Divided Speech.
I learned about ‘citizens’ when I was a witness to a police action. On the paperwork that I was required to sign had me listed as a non-resident alien. When I asked the police officer, he told me it was that way because I lived in the town next to the town where the police action took place. A city as reported within ‘A Time for Choosing, Part II’ is an unconstitutional entity and therefore if you claim to be within one you are in a foreign country. Sure it is unconstitutional but facts are facts and if you don’t state the facts correctly it could put you in harm’s way.
Now what does sovereign mean within the 50 Union states?
2. In the United States the sovereignty resides in the body of the people. Vide Rutherf. Inst. 282. http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_s.htm
SOVEREIGNTY. The union and exercise of all human power possessed in a state; it is a combination of all power; it is the power to do everything in a state without accountability; to make laws, to execute and to apply them: to impose and collect taxes, and, levy, contributions; to make war or peace; to form treaties of alliance or of commerce with foreign nations, and the like. Story on the Const. §207.
2. Abstractedly, sovereignty resides in the body of the nation and belongs to the people. But these powers are generally exercised by delegation.
3. When analyzed, sovereignty is naturally divided into three great powers; namely, the legislative, the executive, and the judiciary; the first is the power to make new laws, and to correct and repeal the old; the second is the power to execute the laws both at home and abroad; and the last is the power to apply the laws to particular facts; to judge the disputes which arise among the citizens, and to punish crimes.
4. Strictly speaking, in our republican forms of government, the absolute sovereignty of the nation is in the people of the nation; (q. v.) and the residuary sovereignty of each state, not granted to any of its public functionaries, is in the people of the state. (q. v.) 2 Dall. 471; and vide, generally, 2 Dall. 433, 455; 3 Dall. 93; 1 Story, Const. §208; 1 Toull. n. 20 Merl. Reper. h. t. http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_s.htm
Note – In the following it shortens the title of our country to ‘United States’ and in many other documents the term is used to mean only the government of the fifty Union states located in D.C. This really makes it difficult understand what is what when the same term means different things.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The name of this country. The United States, now thirty-one in number, are Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Wisconsin, and California.
2. The territory of which these states are composed was at one time dependent generally on the crown of Great Britain, though governed by the local legislatures of the country. It is not within the plan of this work to give a history of the colonies; on this subject the reader is referred to Kent’s Com. sect. 10; Story on the Constitution, Book 1; 8 Wheat. Rep. 543; Marshall, Hist. Colon.
3. The neglect of the British government to redress grievances which had been felt by the people, induced the colonies to form a closer connexion than their former isolated state, in the hopes that by a union they might procure what they had separately endeavored in vain, to obtain. In 1774, Massachusetts recommended that a congress of the colonies should be assembled to deliberate upon the state of public affairs; and on the fourth of September of the following year, the delegates to such a congress assembled in Philadelphia. Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and Virginia, were represented by their delegates; Georgia alone was not represented. This congress, thus organized, exercised de facto and de jure, a sovereign authority, not as the delegated agents of the governments de facto of the colonies, but in virtue of the original powers derived from the people. This, which was called the revolutionary government, terminated only when superseded by the confederated government under the articles of confederation, ratified in 1781. Serg. on the Const. Intr. 7, 8.
4. The state of alarm and danger in which the colonies then stood induced the formation of a second congress. The delegates, representing all the states, met in May, 1775. This congress put the country in a state of defence, and made provisions for carrving on the war with the mother country; and for the internal regulations of which they were then in need; and on the fourth day of July, 1776, adopted and issued the Declaration of Independence. (q. v.) The articles of confederation, (q. v.) adopted on the first day of March, 1781, 1 Story on the Const. §225; 1 Kent’s Comm. 211, continued in force until the first Wednesday in March, 1789, when the present constitution was adopted. 5 Wheat. 420.
5. The United States of America are a corporation endowed with the capacity to sue and be sued, to convey and receive property. 1 Marsh. Dec. 177, 181. But it is proper to observe that no suit can be brought against the United States without authority of law.
6. The states, individually, retain all the powers which they possessed at the formation of the constitution, and which have not been given to congress. (q. v.)
7. Besides the states which are above enumerated, there are various territories, (q. v.) which are a species of dependencies of the United States. New states may be admitted by congress into this union; but no new state shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state, nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned, as well as of congress. Const. art. 4, s. 3. And the United States shall guaranty to every state in this union, a republican form of government. Id. art. 4, s. 4. See the names of the several states; and Constitution of the United States. http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_u.htm
The meaning of the term ‘Citizen’ depends on where you inhabit. There is a simple answer and a very complex answer. The simple one is if you are in any of the 50 several states you are a Citizen of that state. If you inhabit within any of the territories or DC then you are a ‘citizen of the United States. This information has been lost or kept from us. We are now all told it does not matter but if the Federal Government does not have jurisdiction over you how could you be a citizen of DC. You may be a ‘Citizen’ of the Union state you inhabit and because you go outside of your venue you could become subject to the Federal Government or even a Foreign Government like China.
If you are traveling outside of our country you need to know these things.
Do your own research. Ask your state representative to help you learn if you are a Citizen or citizen or a sovereign citizen but before you do that you should read my postings – http://www.thepostemail.com/?s=by+Steven+Wayne+Pattison&x=9&y=5
All Rights Reserved,
/S/ Steven Pattison
To makes some points clearer:
When I wrote, “A city as reported within ‘A Time for Choosing, Part II’ is an unconstitutional entity and therefore if you claim to be within one you are in a foreign country.”
This means that if you use a city address as where you reside then you have no ‘Standing’ anywhere else and is most likely the reason for most all court cases that are outside of the venue of the city you inhabit like in a District Courts of the United States.
This part needs more clarification – “5. The United States of America are a corporation endowed with the capacity to sue and be sued, to convey and receive property. 1 Marsh. Dec. 177, 181.
They used ‘are’ as meaning they were speaking of more than one therefore the term here, United States of America should have been presented as ‘united States of America’ meaning each of the several Union states were corporations but they were like today’s corporations because all the collective sovereigns residing in each Union state owned everything that was not private property owned by any individual sovereign. Any one that was not a Freeman or Freewomen which meant that they were not sovereigns could not own private property.
In the California Constitution it states in http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_c.htm the following – “prohibits the legislature from … creating corporations, except by general laws, and from establishing any banks of issue or circulation. It provides also that every stockholder of a corporation or joint-stock association, shall be individually and personally liable for his proportion of all its, debts or liabilities.”
Here they are talking about corporations not the Union states because the stockholders were liable for the Corporations debts but isn’t that the way it should work for each and every Union state? If all the inhabitants were liable for the debts of the Union state that they inhabit then they would be more involved in what is going on in OUR Union state government.
Today if all the stockholders were liable for the Private Corporations there would not be any Stock Market.
You have to understand that if the banklords wanted to, they could start all over by canceling everyone’s debt because it has been and still is just one big conspiracy played like a Monopoly Game.
The only way to fix the problem is for the People to collective own the right to create money and that could lawful be done by a Contract. The Federal Congress has that privilege now but they gave it to the Federal Reserves which is owned by twelve member banks and not by our Federal Government. The Federal Reserves creates debt money which can never be paid off unless the Federal Reserve would accept something in full payment. The will never do that in my life time.
Why would any of us pay off the Federal Reserves because they created it out of thin air as a debt?
You have to understand that you cannot use a Federal note to pay a debt because again the Federal note is a debt instrument and no one can pay off a debt with another debt. The only real place a Federal note could be used is for payment of wages to all government employees and that is exactly how it started for the government to pay its bills with an IOU which somehow when the Federal Government over spent it wanted the People to pay then debt. Remember there is no way to pay off any debt within the scheme we are currently in. That would mean that the People that are not government employees would need their own money to exchange. Because the People collectively own everything except what is owned privately including all unconstitutional assets that are unlawful Corporations we could back up all of the money we would print. We therefore would not spend more than we own.
Everyone needs to understand that in the beginning the National Banks created by the Federal Government were all deem to be unconstitutional. We had state banks that had a fixed amount of gold that they used to defraud the People. The only reason this problem was not fixed after President Andrew Jackson had paid off the Federal debt was for the American Civil War.
http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/History/presidents/Presidents_7_Jackson.htm: Jackson vetoed more bills than all previous Presidents combined. His denial of a bill to re-charter a Second Bank of the United States was an important issue in the 1832 election, in which he defeated Henry Clay. States Rights was a volatile issue until Jackson threatened to send federal troops into states that would not collect tariffs. Jackson used these monies to close the Second Bank and pay off the National Debt. Speculation in western lands caused Jackson to issue the Specie Circular, which required all public lands to be paid for with legal tender, which at the time was either gold or silver. This accelerated the Panic of 1837.
Again this panic caused another recession to happen because there was not enough gold or silver in circulation to keep the economy to continue. There being no other source then the banks which would never loan out gold or silver at that time for the banklords had a plan to steal all of it with money printed out of thin air which is why these Bank of the United States were declared unconstitutional in the first place.
The reason for all recessions was the lack of what was used as money being in circulation. This was the reason for the Federal Reserve printing all that money out of thin air to be paid to the banks which did not loan it out to anyone or they never loaned enough to get the economy going again. If there is not enough money in circulation that means that there are not enough jobs because the banks would not loan out money to keep enough in circulation to keep the economy going. That means there are no new jobs and without putting the money back into circulation then there will never be any new jobs until they do.
I fully understand that my explanation is confusing because of what John Kenneth Galbraith a former professor of economics at Harvard states in the following:
The following is a quote by John Kenneth Galbraith former professor of economics at Harvard, writing in ‘Money: Whence it came, where it went’ (1975) You will be overwhelmed with this Internet search – http://isearch.avg.com/search?cid={0BD36C50-DE16-4184-BBB6-86C8E24C196F}&mid=a10df631427504318bd07bc81dacc0c2-1119ff33d1534468d20e17a1f173f44ad1e4899d&ds=AVG&lang=us&v=10.2.0.3&pr=pa&d=2011-12-07%2004:38:43&sap=dsp&q=The+study+of+money%2C+above+all+other+fields+in+economics%2C+is+one+in+which+complexity+is+used+to+disguise+truth+or+to+evade+truth%2C+not+to+reveal+it.+The+process+by+which+banks+create+money+is+so+simple+the+mind+is+repelled.+With+something+so+important%2C+a+deeper+mystery+seems+only+decent
“The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent.” – John Kenneth Galbraith Canadian economist, Harvard professor.
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Steven Pattison
I think these guys should quit playing all those video games in those high government offices and concentrate on getting the real criminals. If they can do this with an outstanding Naval Academy Graduate and retired Naval Officer trying to do the right thing and stand up for his sworn duty to expose a criminal that has usurped POTUS just think what they could do with Obama, Soetoro, Bari Shabazz, Malcolm X Jr., Mr. Idi Amin, whoever he is in charge! You know, Mr. So an’ So! The only mental relief from this is to watch old “Three Stooges” re-runs! This is the biggest sham ordered by Obambi since Joe “Back In Chains” Biden shot his big mouth off again. He does have a talent for messing up! It never stops amazing me to see the bungling stupidity that comes from our government leaders.