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“THEY FORGOT TO FLATTEN LAYERS”

Introduction by Sharon Rondeau

Is this document an abstract of what was shown yesterday? Is either of them authentic?

(Apr. 28, 2011) — On April 27, 2011, The Post & Email contacted Dr. Ron Polland, whose work we have cited here before, about the Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House online.

Last July we published a full-length interview in which Dr. Polland detailed why he was positive that the Certification of Live Birth posted online by Factcheck.org in 2008 and that which is pictured at right from Obama’s Fight the Smears website was a forgery.

Dr. Polland was kind enough to respond to our inquiry on his opinion of the image presented to the public yesterday which we reported here.

Dr. Polland’s Analysis of the Certificate of Live Birth Released on April 27, 2011

The morons forget to flatten the layers! You should see what this looks like in Photoshop or any other Adobe program that reads PDF’s and works with layers.

The overlay tat was placed on top of this has a shadow on its left side – and is curved as well – from a previous scan of a BC form.

This BC form looks a lot like the B&W one we saw with Madeline Dunham’s fake signature on it.

A year ago, I proved to the world – <a href=”http://www.youtube.com/TheDrRJP”>albeit via YouTube</a> – that Obama’s COLB “scan” is a fake: a composite image fabricated from dozens of individual image layers from within Photoshop.

This time out, whoever made this piece of junk forgot to flatten the layers!!!

Select the image in the PDF file, right-click and select copy, or press Control-C. Open a blank Word document and paste it in (right-click Paste or Control-V). Look at what you see:

 

Image which Dr. Ron Polland provided to us after providing his analysis of its composition

Now, my book will have yet another update after Donald Trump came along and flushed out all of the rats behind the conspiracy to forge it. I already went on record as saying that Chiyome Fukino lied through her teeth about Obama (“Obama Bombshell,” aka “Blue Hawaii”), but I had no idea just how much and how far she would go on lying until she gave an interview with an MSNBC reporter.

This forgery is a sick joke, but I have no doubt the Obama freaks will hail it as being real.

For three years, this forged, one-sided image has been passed off as a “digital scan” of Obama’s birth certificate.”

I have seen this “new” “long-form” image before – and so has the P&E – as a black and white typed version with Madeline Dunham as the signatory, not Ann Dunham Obama.

Without looking at what the White House released, I know it is also a forgery.  Right off the bat, Ann’s signature is forged.

The original COLB image that was posted by the Obama Campaign on the evening of June 12, 2008 was not produced by the Obama Campaign.

Let me repeat that:  the “digital scan of “Obama’s birth certificate” that was posted on the Obama Campaign website was not made by the Obama Campaign. In fact, the Campaign NEVER said they made it, so they have plausible deniability on it.

In the early morning of June 12, 2008, Markos Mousaltsis posted on his Daily Kos blog, for the first time anywhere, a COLB image alleged to be “Obama’s birth certificate.” He refused to say from whom or from where he got it – despite being asked directly by his “Kossacks.”

He did say that he trimmed it.  Trimmed it from what, though?

His trimmed COLB measured 2427 x 2369 pixels and was saved at 44% quality in an unidentified image editor. The Photoshop header in the image’s Exif data was still there, as most image editors will not remove it automatically, but leave it up to the user to decide.

The first image also originated as a PDF posted on Obama’s My.BarackObama.com website as confirmed by Karen Tumulty of TIME Magazine and by the copy I downloaded at the same time. I and extracted the PDF image and saved it as a JPG before the Campaign swapped replaced the PDF with a JPG image when they realized that a PDF cannot be viewed without a standalone reader or browser plug-in, like those made by Adobe.

This 1000 x 1024 JPG copy came from the Kos JPG image but was resaved in a common image editor at 100% quality and @100DPI.

The quality settings, being approximations, are pretty much irrelevant for direct comparisons. What is important here is the chain of custody established by the editors used to make a 3rd generation copy of an unknown source image.

Confused yet? Wait, there’s more.

It was on June 13, the following day, that FightTheSmears.com was launched – not with the same image posted the night before but with a more disproportionate reduction and resaved under different conditions – this time with Photoshop, @100DPI and Save for Web 30.

I have saved every copy of the Obama COLB image ever posted on the Internet, whether publicly displayed or kept on soomeone’s server, as Politifact did.

That first JPG image posted by the Obama Campaign on the evening of June 12, was 1000 x 1024 pixels and was a direct copy and 42% reduction of the Kos image made AFTER Markos had trimmed and re-saved his image at 44% quality using an image editor that is found only on Macs. That 1000 x 1024 image was resaved at 100% quality, @300DPI, using any one of dozens of popular image editors including Photoshop 7.0. The Exif information in this copy had been removed.

The Photoshop Exif information in the Kos image is what led people to think that it was created (or at least resaved) in Photoshop CS3 for the Mac. Only two other image copies have that same Photoshop header: the untrimmed copy (2550 x 3300) on Factcheck.org saved in Photoshop with quality setting, Save at 8, and another direct reduction of the Kos image (800 x 781 pixels or 33% of the Kos image) posted on the Chicago Tribune and LA Times that was also resaved in Photoshop (version unknown) with quality setting, Saved for Web 60.

How many different copies of the one-sided COLB image have been made and found on the Internet?

The St. Petersburg Times/Politifact has 20 different copies alone. They are a veritable COLB factory – and the ones who forged the original source image and who distributed the copies to everyone – not the Obama Campaign.

All of this will come out in my book TBR any day now (barring other surprises).

Dr. Ron Polland

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RT
12 years ago

Does Obama now live in Hawaii or in Washington in April 2011?

Why must his copy of BC be certified by someone in Hawaii with “I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD ON FILE IN
THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” in April 2011?

Proves that he never had an orginal BC in his own locker?

So the BC purported to be from Hawaii is an abstract?
Is the contents true then?

By the way, how could he be a “natural born citizen” if his dad was on student visa and never naturalised?

Starla
12 years ago

MUST SEE OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!!!!!

“OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKED IN ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR – OFFICIAL PROOF”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

Look & listen carefully to the 3:27 mark where the narrator states, “Now, allegedly this birth certificate was “scanned” onto a computer. If you know anything about scanners and scanning inside of Adobe Illustrator, it keeps it on one layer! It doesn’t…there is no such thing as technology for a scanner that will separate parts of the images to different layers. SO, IF THEY SCANNED THIS, WHICH THEY SAY THEY DID, IT WOULD ALL BE ON ONE LAYER. However, here there are multiple layers as you can see, and even inside of these, there’s more! I’m just going to show you, ah, this is the original one. Right here, the bottom layer is the first layer they started out with…”

And, see & listen to especially at the 4:38 mark: “This is added on the computer. This isn’t even penmanship, it is added on a computer,” and look at the 5:04 mark for information as well!!

Here is the person’s name and email address who created this video and posted it online, if people have any further questions.

Albert Renshaw, 2011 (albertiphonedeveloper@yahoo.com)

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“DR. RON POLLAND EVALUATES OBAMA’S “BIRTH
CERTIFICATE” – THEY FORGOT TO FLATTEN LAYERS”

Introduction By Sharon Rondeau

April 28, 2011

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/28/dr-ron-polland-evaluates-obamas-birth-certificate/comment-page-2/#comment-54052

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“WORLD INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES: OBAMA’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE A RANK FORGERY”

http://www.dailypaul.com/163097/world-intelligence-agencies-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate-a-rank-forgery

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A Southern Lady
12 years ago

By the way my comments were in reply to Atano, the uninformed.

Bob1943
12 years ago

Why is nothing being said about the U K La Lee signature of the local registrar. It’s not the same as the signature on the Nordyke twins at almost the same 1961 date…and, it sounds like a joke intended to give away the forgery.

Has someone located information on Mr. or Ms. Ukulele who was a local registrar in Honolulu at that time?

AuntieMadder
12 years ago
Reply to  Bob1943

Bob1943, a little more than halfway down this page, a freeper posted an image of a 1962 Hawaii DOH-issued long-form birth certificate signed by registrar U K L Lee.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2711661/posts?page=3

I can’t attest to its validity, but there it is.

Thomas Morato
12 years ago
Reply to  Bob1943

I totally agree Bob, I immediately saw this also.

Is this just another sick joke and more distractions from these folks? A Ukelele is a freak’n Hawaii guitar!

Until this mysterious U. K. L. Lee (btw, who signs their name like this on an official legal document?) comes forward, has a death certificate, or at least two other birth certificates surface with this same signature from 1961… I’m not buying it.

If this new version is authenticated, it validates what we’ve been saying all along… His father was not a US citizen, thus can NOT be natural born.

kittycat77
12 years ago
Reply to  Bob1943

I thought the registrar’s signature was a joke too, until I saw this post, which is #245:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2319168/posts?page=245#245

Notice the signature is the same. Also notice the areas are different from the Nordyke twins. So this Uklelee or whatever must have been the local registrar for that specific area.

Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Bob1943

This signature appears on the Edith Coats LFBC.

But she was born at Wahiawa General Hospital in Jun 1962.

kailuagirl
12 years ago
Reply to  Bob1943

Fast & easy solution, employment records…for the named: Ukulele…
There is no such family name in Hawaii, not in the 60’s, not today. Clearly an in your face smack down, these people know something the predominate of America don’t, they fully intend this man will be POTUS for at least the next 6 years.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: I believe some solid research turned up that there was a registrar named U.K. Lee or something similar. This will be investigated.

Starla
12 years ago

MUST SEE OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!!!!!

“OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKED IN ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR – OFFICIAL PROOF”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

Look & listen carefully to the 3:27 mark where the narrator states, “Now, allegedly this birth certificate was “scanned” onto a computer. If you know anything about scanners and scanning inside of Adobe Illustrator, it keeps it on one layer! It doesn’t…there is no such thing as technology for a scanner that will separate parts of the images to different layers. SO, IF THEY SCANNED THIS, WHICH THEY SAY THEY DID, IT WOULD ALL BE ON ONE LAYER. However, here there are multiple layers as you can see, and even inside of these, there’s more! I’m just going to show you, ah, this is the original one. Right here, the bottom layer is the first layer they started out with…”

And, see & listen to especially at the 4:38 mark: “This is added on the computer. This is not even a signature…,” and at the 5:04 mark as well!!

Here is the person’s name and email address who created this video and posted it online, if people have further questions.

Albert Renshaw, 2011 (albertiphonedeveloper@yahoo.com)

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Norm G
12 years ago
Reply to  Starla

Here’s another interesting article. http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/washington-times-report-newly-released-obama-birth-certificate-forensic-forgery

Experts are coming out of the woodwork explaining why this birth certificate is a complete fraud. A couple of “experts” have made a feeble attempt to explain why it’s not a fake. Sorry, the evidence is piling up and is becoming overwhelming that it is a fake.

BlackSunshine84
12 years ago

Could the reason for the odd way in which the document was requested be so that it isn’t an official request like it would be if a OHSM 135 (Rev. 9/13/05) form was used? Maybe this way it prevents some liability for the Dept?
Even if you requested one in person you’d have to complete that form, but 0bama didn’t.

Atano
12 years ago

If they really wanted to make a forgery, you think they would forget to flatten layers. This is normal PDF behavior for any scanned document. Get over it. This is the real birth certificate. Obama was born in Hawaii, period. Obama didn’t have any divided allegiance because of his father’s citizenship. He is a legitimate President. Start talking about real issues that matter.

Jack
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Sorry Atano…The bottom line here is the simple and undeniable fact that a PDF file is not and can never be a “legal document”…osamba has never released an “original paper document” as a colb or long form BC…or even a “certified copy” of an “original paper document”…to this day all he has ever released are “computer generated forgeries”.
Mr Trump, within a matter of a few days released his “original paper documents” that a “forensic document expert” could actually examine in a lab for authenticity.
Also, which “real issue” matters more than an inept, unconstitutionally qualified, communist muslim, usurping the office of POTUS and intentionally destroying America?

Semper Fi

ramboike
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Atano: “Obama didn’t have any divided allegiance………………….”

Really?

John Jay sent his note to George Washington, who was overseeing the Constitutional Convention, to have the natural born Citizen requirement added to the qualifications to be President & Commander-in-Chief:

“Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen.”
~~John Jay

“A man is known by the company he keeps.” [people tend to associate with people like themselves].

The 0bumm0 cradle to present associations: Fellowing traveling [pro-commie] parents & grand parents, Koran studies [who was he taught were the infidels?], commie Frank Marshall Davis, marxist professors & groups in college, commie domestic terrorists Ayers & his wife Dohrn, American hater & father figure Rev. Wright, almost 20 year attendance in a church that was dedicated to a ‘non-negotiable commitment to Africa’ [that’s definitely not America]. Appointments: avowed socialist Carol Browner, avowed commie Van Jones, believer in Maoist philosophy Anita Dunn, etc.

“My objective in life is to dethrone GOD and destroy Capitalism.”
~Karl Marx

“Birds of a feather flock together.”

Does 0bumm0’s cradle to the present associations give him the type of profile John Jay feared becoming Commander-in-Chief?

“We can have no ’50-50′ allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
~~Teddy Roosevelt

jtx
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Atano:

Sorry pal – it DOES matter and “normal PDF behavior” or not, this is a fraudulent document and not his a copy of his “original document” as several HI-types have “sworn to”. Very funny, indeed. Even if the layering is a by-product of the software used (which no one seems willing to “swear to”), all that does is provide a convenient cover-up for the change by layering that had to be done to alter the data. You can’t be that dumb even if rest of the Flying Monkeys are!

Even seetting aside the layering – which you can’t afford to do, of course, since you lose your excuse for feloneous criminal document fraud – there are enough “issues” to define it as a fraud and not a copy of the guy’s “original birth certificate”. And that’s also setting aside the conflicting and opposing statements that various State and Federal (and MSM) “faces” have made. Some large group of those HAVE to be outright lies.

So tell us why you think the perps of this latest generation of “copies of original, real-life PROOF” of place of birth did not merely take a decent quality digital phone of the REAL original document if one exists and forget all the mumbo-jumbo as to what scanners qand/or pdf do or do not do, Just click and put the *.jpg or *.tif on the WH site??? Why not … perhaps because there IS no real original document that matches the pdf content???

Hmmm???

Aussie
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

First of all, I am one who accepts that Østupid was born in Hawaii. In fact the release of sr’s immigration records verifies the point. It is not important to me where he was born.

Second, you are wrong about the allegiance because you have no clue what that means with regard to children who are born to parents that are foreign nationals.

Let me spell it out to you: To be a citizen of the USA you need to be born on the soil. Exhibit A: Nicole Kidman, whose parents are not USA citizens was born in Hawaii. That was sufficient apparently to give her dual citizenship status and allow her to work in Hollywood.

To be a native born citizen requires one parent who is a USA citizen and being born on USA soil. This is not the same as being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. It is however, the situation for my cousins who have an Australian citizen mother and an American citizen father who were all born in the USA.

NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is one who is born of American citizen parents. A natural born citizen cannot be a dual citizen.

Now let’s look at exhibit B: Østupid was born in Hawaii to an 18 year old mother and a Kenyan father. As a result of the birth he was conferred with British and Kenyan citizenship because at the time the citizenship as passed through the father. In other words, at birth Østupid was a dual citizen.

Exhibit C: is a child born to two American citizen parents on Australian soil because her father was posted to Canberra. She is not an Australian citizen because the USA does not recognize the dual citizenship. The parents most likely registered the birth at the USA embassy in Canberra.

A Southern Lady
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Go back to sleep sheeple, nothing to see here except a socialist, communist Usurper. You obviously need to read our Constitution since you’re sadly lacking information of it’s contents. It most certainly is not normal PDF behavior for a scanned document and you should be ashamed of stating such, as a end-all statement. Mr. Obama, the Faux president was most definately NOT born in Hawaii and you will soon find this out. Jerome Corsi is about to publish a book that lays it all out about Mr. Obama’s past. This is the reason for the release of the Faux Birth Certificate. What about HIS FATHER WAS NEVER AN AMERICAN CITIZEN did you not understand??? This in itself disqualifies him from being eligible for POTUS. Wake up before that Revolution begins or you’ll be squashed in the stampede.

RacerJim
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Atano,
This is the fifth, I repeat, THE FIFTH, self-described “real” but visably desparate birth certificate image they have posted online. That is normal behavior for someone who said: “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” — Barack Hussein Obama. Still no irrefuteable proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, PERIOD. That you believe Obama didn’t have any divided allegiance because of his father’s non-US citizenship makes you a Kool-Aid impaired Obot. He is in fact a usurper. That is THE issue that matters because a usurper cannot be trusted.

BlackSunshine84
12 years ago
Reply to  RacerJim

There have been atleast 20, all out out by the St. Petersberg Times/Poltifact.

BlackSunshine84
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Are you for real? or one of the fake personas being put out the by the 0bama admin to create a consensus on his agenda? It’s been removed from FedBizOpps.gov, but we’re on to you…http://www.seankerrigan.com/docs/PersonaManagementSoftware.pdf

Hotlanta Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

Issues like dealing with crime? Felonies associated with forging a federal document like a Selective Service Registration and use of fraudulently obtained Social Security Numbers??? This guy’s life started out with document fraud, and today he is up to his eyeballs in it!!!

Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Atano

“Normal behavior”. Sorry no. Scans return a single flat image. Oh unless they do OCR. Then they will give you the TEXT OCR as well. This ‘chopping up’ of the image is a post processing action of some type. Adobe Standard will do something like it when you tell it to Optimize Scan. (BTW, nothing to do with OCR function). That creates multiple jpg images as it tries to reduce the size of the original image. But it is a function of Adobe…not the scan process.

bill
12 years ago

Just my opinion,but this chase after documentation is really unnecessary as
by Obamas own admission,his father was Not an American citizen.

jtx
12 years ago
Reply to  bill

You’re absolutely correct! The BC has never been the issue (but the Flying Monkeys would like it to be) nor is the guy’s place of birth.

He’s told everyone publicly that his daddy was a Kenyan; an alien. According to the laws of our country stated in Supreme Court decisions such as Minor v. Happersett in 1875 a “natural born Citizen” is someone born in American of 2 American citizen parents. that decision has never been overturned but several others support the definition – and it is still the law of the land no matter the PC “opinions” of supposed knowledgeable attorneys such as Laurence Tribe or Ted Olsen!

Perhaps they need to do some more reading of the law.

Jack
12 years ago
Reply to  jtx

Affirmative jtx…Interesting and predictable that all the media obamaroids, including little sheppie smith on faux news are stretching the lie even further, that osamba is now
magically a “natural born citizen” because of the new fake “so called” long form bc…there seems to be no limit to their willingness to commit misprision of treason for a
scumbag that wouldn’t hesitate to throw his own grandmother under the bus…oh wait, I forgot he already did that…soon they will all be revealed as the fools and traitors that they are!
An honest man does not fear a forensics evaluation of his birth certificate…!

Semper Fi

BlackSunshine84
12 years ago

Dr. Taitz is scheduled for an oral argument in just a few days. Maybe Miki Booth would allow her to borrow her son’s BC as evidence? It might be helpful.

jtx
12 years ago

Sharon:

Could you perhaps ask Dr. Polland to look at this “analysis” and comment???

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

I’m also curious as to why the Flying Monkeys didn’t just use a multimegapixel digital camera and make a direct *.jpg (or even a raw) image of the bound document? Could it be that they had to take the approach they did since there WAS no original document matching the image they put forth as the “honest to gosh, real true bc this time, HONEST FOLKS – mever mind what all those HI DOH fools say”.

Besides, maybe they just wanted to blow a lot more tax dollars (which are, we know, cost free) by sending a high-priced barister (a partner of the firm) all the way from DC to HI etc. and to solicit “cover” letters.

Who is fooling who???

BlackSunshine84
12 years ago
Reply to  jtx

They obviously wanted it to be discovered that it is fake. We just don’t know why.

BlackSunshine84
12 years ago

Can someone get in touch with Miki Booth and see what is stamped above the State Registrar’s signature? Stamped above the signature on 0bama’s is:

“I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health.”

What is stamped above on her son’s looks different, but I can’t really make it out, but It looks like it doesn’t say “or abstract.”

kittycat77
12 years ago

Scroll down until you get to the Nordyke twin’s BC, and notice the wording on theirs:

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/

Birdy
12 years ago
Reply to  kittycat77

Alan Paliko Booth Certificate

I CERTIFY THAT THIS IS A TRUE COPY
OF THE RECORD ON FILE WITH THE
HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

Susan Elizabeth Nordyke Certificate

THIS CERTIFIES THAT THE ABOVE IS A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF THE
ORIGINAL RECORD ON FILE IN THE RESEARCH, PLANNING AND STATISTICS OFFICE
HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

Barack Hussein Obama II Certificate

I CERTIFY THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR
ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD ON FILE IN
THE HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

So we can’t trust Obama’s certificate to be a “TRUE AND CORRECT COPY” of the original. It is most likely an abstract of data on file (electronic and hardcopy) with the DOH. In other words, it’s unreliable and tells us nothing about the circumstances of his citizenship and place of birth. The DOH just gave him what he needed to stay out of trouble and try to silence those who continue to question his origins.

Spike
12 years ago

It’s rather sad to see an ‘expert’ totally misrepresent standard PDF behavior for optimizing file size and display as something sinister. The MRC compression separates the text from the background to improve compression rates. You can test this out yourself very easily by taking any document with multiple colors and various text shades yourself and see that it will “create” those same multiple layers when opened in Illustrator, etc…

Layering demonstrated:

Jack
12 years ago
Reply to  Spike

Is there any evidence that the “German birth certificate” used in this demonstration was not “created” or “altered” for the express purpose of use in the demonstration?

The bottom line here is the simple and undeniable fact that a PDF file is not and can never be a “legal document”…osamba has never released an “original paper document” as a colb or long form BC…or even a “certified copy” of an “original paper document”…to this day all he has ever released are “computer generated forgeries”.
Mr Trump, within a matter of a few days released his “original paper documents” that a “forensic document expert” could actually examine in a lab for authenticity..is it too much for the American people to ask osamba to do the same?

Spike
12 years ago
Reply to  Jack

You can try it yourself and see there was no alteration and it works exactly as demonstrated (Scan a file as a .TIF, verify no layers exist however you would like, then create a PDF with it and open in Illustrator) . Several people have also contacted Adobe to ask and they indicated it is exactly how a PDF should behave.

But again, try it yourself and ask them yourself and see, don’t simply take my word for it.

Mike
12 years ago
Reply to  Spike

This Illustrator/MRC/OCR explanation is interesting, it seems implausible and technically wrong but it is interesting. Instead of conjecture about how it ‘may’ have happened or how it ‘could’ happen why does the White House not:

a) explain exactly how they created the image, in detail with tools, software, hardware, etc. and;
b) provide a actual, real DOCUMENT to a trusted forensic document examiner for authentication.

Why would image manipulator software be used at all? Just scan the document directly into a standard pdf with no OCR, no compression and be done with it. All standard scanner software will do this without requiring the use of Illustrator or Photoshop. Why the extra step of going to a tool? Why the need to do any OCR function on it?

I am reminded of the lines from Hunt for Red October:
Jack Ryan: “Can you launch an ICBM horizontally underwater?”
Skip: “Sure. Why would you want to?”

Can you scan a document into a fancy image manipulation tool and even do OCR mapping while doing it?
Sure. Why would you want to?

Also, It is well known that ONLY an ACTUAL document can be used to confirm authenticity. It is time to bring an end to the digital imagery shenanigans. PRODUCE A REAL DOCUMENT WHITE HOUSE! And bring the ‘real’ COLB from 2007 while you are at it!

Spike
12 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Mike, I would love to hear what is ‘technically wrong’ with how Adobe optimizes a PDF in what I have said, and how it behaves when opening the PDF document in Illustrator or other Adobe software vs what has been claimed in this article above.

Again, it’s a simple matter for anyone with the software to recreate this for themselves as see it is exactly what happens. So the whole thing about “layers” is simply bogus and silly and so easily refuted that it takes away from, as Jim says “The bottom line here is the simple and undeniable fact that a PDF file is not and can never be a “legal document” so why even focus on it?

Why have some “expert” make up things that are so obviously wrong, when it’s the paper document that matters? I guess I just don’t get that at all.

RacerJim
12 years ago
Reply to  Spike

Spike…
If what you say about standard PDF behavior is true then it’s truely sad to see the White House now resort to employing standard PDF behavior to obfuscate alterations.

Spike
12 years ago
Reply to  RacerJim

So why not stop letting them? It’s not the PDF…show us the paper!

jtx
12 years ago
Reply to  Spike

Sorry, Spike, that completely begs the question as to why use the technique you describe rather that taking a hi-rez photo and showing a *.jpg or *.tif directly from the camera … e.g., why do the OCR scanning at all??? After all, such handling (even if actually allowed by the State) raises the possibility of damage to that particular document or others presumably bound into the same book … and where is all the “handwritten data” that Fukino “observed”??

The obvious answer (provided by Occam’s Razor) is that there IS no “original document” matching the image provided by the WH. That’s the reason for all the trumped-up cover letters … to try to add an aura of authenticity to the whole HI circus event (and the WH).

Regardless of your explanation (which might merely help disguise the forgery a bit), fake is fake as shown by other elements in the WHBC image.

Redd
12 years ago

According to DailyPen, dunham was NOT born at kapoliani, which is why they didn’t take credit. But, it leaves Dunham as a liar with his letter stating he was born at Kapo. Also, the two different reports from dunham and Ng Maya making up a name of hospital birth. Sorta looking like dunham was a home birther.

Aussie
12 years ago
Reply to  Redd

Yes, it is possible that Dunham gave birth at home. There have been no records found at either hospital, yet the evidence exists that he was born in Hawaii.

Jack
12 years ago

Here is a short and very interesting video regarding the so-called “long form birth certificate” of barry osamba.
A scan of an “original paper document” has only “one layer”…not so, on a computer generated “forgery”…

from Neil Turner;
It may just be that he has figured (or has been informed) that the jig is up (no pun intended), and that he might as well bring down the right-wing TV media who have been carrying his water as well.

That is a very interesting observation, and begs the question…”why would barry release such an obvious forgery”?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

Semper Fi

Stock
12 years ago

Ok-he requested two copies of the original right-and sent his attorney to pick them up-then he shows up on TV waiving a fake-right. Is there any statement from Hawaii that the document he showed up with is the one they issued? Chain of Custody? But in any event-he has got us talking about a “forgery” and so easily too by making it so blatant-he immediately got us off topic. But again the real issue is as to his clear and in your face ineligibility-he is hiding it in plain sight by the distraction of the forgery-while providing his “proof” of Hawaiian birth. The guy is a magician-we should probably call Penn and Teller and ask them what this guy is up to.

12 years ago

I may just be that he has figured (or has been informed) that the jig is up (no pun intended), and that he might as well bring down the right-wing TV media who have been carrying his water as well.

O’Really and Malkin and Beck and Geraldo and Shep Smith, etc. will look like absolute fools for bashing the ‘birthers’. They should go down in disgrace with the rest of the Obama ‘water boys and girls’.

Treason, by any other name, is still TREASON!

The lies of pathological liars, do, indeed, catch up with them.

As Dr. Corsi stated: “Obama, blinked.”

Obama over-reacted, and his latest action of releasing another forged document will help lead to his (over-kill) undoing.

California Birther/Dualer/Doubter
12 years ago

I recall how odd the White House BC looked at first glance. Sure enough, my eyes weren’t deceiving me. It’s so bad that I have to wonder whether they might have done it on purpose in a way to both fool the sheeple but not those like Polland so that they can get the birthers to sound off on that, causing the Kool Aid drinkers to go nutzoid and continue to fundamentally transform this country.

Cee Cee
12 years ago

I had the same thought. I think he may be enjoying this cat and mouse game, knowing that he cannot be touched. Fraud and forgery may be crimes in our world, but not in his. No one with any power to do something about it, will legally challenge him on this.

Jon Carlson
12 years ago

Participants may want to see alleged BO mother Stanley Ann Dunham’s high school handwriting samples to compare against the forged signature, Dr. Pollard refers to.

http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/Annwriting1_files/AnnNote.jpg
http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/Annwriting1_files/AnnMax.jpg

Robert
12 years ago

PhotoShop produces an identical image to Dr. Pollands. Obama is a FRAUD! Are you surprised?

kittycat77
12 years ago
Reply to  Robert

Robert,

The thought as come to me thinking about this goofball BO, that maybe he’ll come up and say, hey, I released my document, but it wasn’t my original, so it doesn’t matter what people say that it’s fake or not because it’s not my original.

I’m just guessing. That could be what he’ll say. He’s an idiot, arrogant person anyway. Problem is that he thinks that he’s smarter than anyone else. Which goes to show that he WILL trip up. Sooner or later it will happen. He will dig his own pit and he will fall into it.

Chance
12 years ago
Reply to  kittycat77

He just did- trip up.! He can no longer deny anything. He is not eligible to hold office of POTUS>

GMScott
12 years ago
Reply to  kittycat77

YES, indeed it is NOT the original, BUT it is presented as a digital SCAN of the original.

Truth be told, it is a computer-generated “composite” of cut & pasted pieces that were chosen to be placed on it.

Somewhere I read that a REAL long-form Hawaiian Certificate of Birth has an official statement on the bottom attesting to the “completeness” & legitimacy of the info contained and 0bammy’s NEW Certificate of Birth LACKS this statement!

kittycat77
12 years ago

I’m personally sick of all of this. What should happen is that BO shows his stuff, meaning his personal life. I mean, is that too much to ask of a president of the US who has the ability to nuke anyone?

This is so stupid on his part, and not to mention that he allows Lakin to be in prison and now he releases nothing but a lie? Not to mention that he’s extremely arrogant about everything and everyone.

I’m just sick of him. Makes me wish that I lived somewhere in a place that his name was never mentioned. And he’s making a name for himself in history books, yes, as being arrogant, unwilling to take care of America and care for the land that we love, a man of no integrity, no character.

1776reloaded
12 years ago
Reply to  kittycat77

Don’t forget USURPER

Missyc
12 years ago

EVERYTHING Obama, the Big Coconut says or does is FAKE.

He even WANTS to be a ” coconut” – BUT ISN’T….he’s just a plain ole NUT!

The BC is a fake, therefore, WHO can believe he was actually born in Hawaii?

California Birther/Dualer/Doubter
12 years ago

Can’t help but wonder whether all of Mombasa is rooting for the birth certificate to indeed be a fraudulent piece of work so that it can again ululate that one of its own is America’s president.