WHAT WENT ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS TO PROVIDE COVER FOR OBAMA?
March 2, 2011
Dear Editor:
The following letter was sent to Prof. Charles E. Rice of Notre Dame Law School, who wrote an analysis of the Obama eligibility controversy, recommending “a new approach.”
Dear Prof. Rice,
I want to be as polite as I possibly can be with you. I have toiled long and hard and continue to do so on the issue of Obama’s ineligibility. So, I always read articles that suggest a “different” approach with great interest.
However, Professor, I take serious issue with many aspects of how you have characterized this serious matter, and I am afraid you are not offering what I would regard as fruitful suggestions. It is said that the power of an idea is its ability to create other ideas. Your article does that to an extent, but at the same time, it is troubling how much is overlooked, whether by accident or design.
You do touch on the key points in the debate over natural born citizenship but in a way that I find fails to lock horns.
If I may:
1) You get off to a very bad start with the use of the word “speculation.” The word suggests a lack of factual information. Nothing could be further from the truth, sir. The “truth” is staring us in the face. If Barack Obama, Sr. is really his father, then he is ineligible for office.
Instead, the pain and fear induced by the realization that we have hatched a cuckoo’s egg in the White House nest, if you will, has created a uniform paralysis throughout the federal government where EVERYONE refuses to address the most basic question. That pain and fear has produced incredible denial and a remarkable inability to recognize what would otherwise be factual information. One example is the Senate resolution (I believe it was S. 511) provided cover by John McCain by declaring him a natural born citizen. Know that then Senator Obama sought to introduce language which would have also given him status as a natural born citizen. The Senate rejected it. So, let’s have that debate. To me, there is little question that piece of information has probative value. You may want to question what went on behind closed doors – but that would just be speculation. Instead, I offer that when you look at similar efforts to redefine “natural born” including even a bill by Sen. Issa, of all people, limiting natural born to one parent as a citizen, they have been rejected. This has happened more than once in American legislative history. While I don’t have all the specific references, they are out there.
The attempt to introduce “new language” is tacit recognition there IS a definition of natural born citizenship, even if it is spelled out in statutory law. Moreover, one no less than Senator Bingham make a clear statement about what underlies natural born citizenship. I mean, sir, how much speculation are you going to indulge in over arguing about the word “parents” as opposed to “parent”? This is not hard, but others insist and creating a lot of phony and baseless fog around a simple and robust point: It takes two to have a baby.
The folks who insist there is no definition of natural born citizenship are setting a narrow and false standard. Period.
2) Natives are not the same as natural born. I know I am being a little picky here with your language but….The native-born category is a product of twisted reasoning from Wong Kim Ark. Again, if I may, I am not arguing for a universal standard of national citizenship, but consider how bizarre the reasoning is. If American parents are traveling in, say, Russia, and their child is born there, are they going to say the child is Russian or has any sort of claim on Russian citizenship? I think not. But that is the problem created by Wong Kim Ark.
3) Certification of Live Birth – There is a rich and deep literature the media is avoiding like the plague which establishes the COLB is a fraud. On this, two points. First, the leading expert, “Polarik” is the son of parents who were pioneers in digital photography. He learned everything from them and at a time when personal computers were growing in sophistication. So, he has personal and deep knowledge of how to manipulate digital images. However, he also got his advanced degrees in areas other than computer forensics. So, the media uses this as an excuse for not talking to him. But he clearly has the knowledge. Anyone who has grown up, as I, in the personal computer/laser printer/pixel manipulation/DOS era can understand what Polarik is saying, and it certainly passes the smell test. But, there are others too. The conclusion is the same – the document is a fraud in so many different ways, it would take some time to lay it all out. Second point: The Hawaii Dept. of Health refuses to certify they issued that image you see on the computer screen. This should send up lots of red flags. Despite claims of official signatures on the document, the supposed source refuses to acknowledge it came from them. That alone is grounds for an investigation.
Professor, you need to realize that without that COLB, Obama has produced NOTHING to establish his citizenship in any capacity. The notion, as some argue, that he is entitled to his privacy clearly have it all wrong. There is no information that establishes with authority who he is and where he comes from. None. Not enough people are waking up to the fact that the media provides this vast echoing illusion of who “Obama” is. Without that echo, it becomes more painfully obvious that there is a problem. For all we know, “Obama” is a nom de guerre just as was the name Yasser Arafat. Sorry, I just had to do that…
4) You are right that none of the judges in any of the suits have rendered a decision based on the merits of the case. However, I find you treat this point far too lightly. To me, this is a grave injustice, it shows how spineless the judges are and leaves many many people with the impression that the judiciary is also covering for Obama.
The implication that they have not provided a clear ruling because of the “bewildering” set of claims is mere sophistry. The judges have already shown they can do whatever they want in this matter without impunity. Therefore, I ask you, since judges routinely ignore the U.S. Constitution and just about any other law that does not suit their fancy, why could they not rule that green eyed martians and Obama both qualify as natural born citizens. The answer? They can’t. They know full well what the facts are and there is nothing bewildering about them at all. You embed a key fact inside a list of “bewildering array of claims”. His supposed father was never an American citizen, never intended to be one. That is very clear from Obama’s own account of his family history. That has probative value too.
There is nothing to speculate on here. Natural born citizenship requires BOTH parents to be citizens. As noted above, attempts to change that “implied” definition have failed routinely with legislative initiatives. Moreover, each one of those “bewildering” claims are legitimate issues for any committee devoted to the truth. Moreover, the FBI has been repeatedly beseeched to investigate. What a surprise they have done nothing.
So, this leads me to a note of confusion, Professor. This quote: “On the other hand, it is fair to say that the Obama controversy involves significant issues of fact and law that deserve some sort of official resolution.”
Correct me if I am wrong, but that statement seems to violate everything else you have said in the article. How did you get from “speculation” and “bewildering array of claims” to that statement? To me, it doesn’t follow.
Also, you said on the failure of the suits: “Their lack of success cannot be ascribed simply to a hyper-technical evasion of judicial responsibility.” Having stood before two courts on this matter, I can tell you that is just plain wrong. And it is much more than just “evasion.” At one point, Judge Carter was the only person in the country who had stated publicly he would listen objectively to Orly Taitz’s case. That was, until he hired two law clerks who had worked for the opposing law firm – Patrick Coie. No one can tell me that move did not taint the outcome. The case was quickly thrown out after those two clowns showed up. Plus the judge issued a $20,000 sanction against her – which I think he was forced to do. That’s my “speculation.”
Also, you make no reference to the “mock trial” handled by Rev. Manning. Again, pain and fear paralyze people from looking at facts. Rev. Manning pointed out that the NYS Supreme Court (I know that is not their highest court) monitored the proceedings. He emphasized that the court would have cried foul over any missteps in how the mock trial was carried out. There were none, and yes Obama was found guilty. Again, the media buries these things with all the vigor and frantic energy of a badger.
5) The sojourn with Woodrow Wilson was instructive. I think it establishes him as clearly one of our weaker and more destructive presidents. The inability to establish a clear set of principles by which to govern shows he did not really understand government in the first place.
Somewhere there has to be a course in constitutional law that couples a deep understanding of political philosophy (starting with Plato and Aristotle) and extended consideration of both the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers, so that people begin to understand what it truly means to govern.
His confusion over investigative powers shows a superficial grasp of how governments function. Yes, Machiavelli would be laughing at him.
The “power” to investigate ends up being like water when it encounters a barrier. Water just goes around.
Frankly, what “powers of investigation” are there to discuss when one such as Herbert Hoover, in his early days, would automatically start a file on each person he enountered in his daily activities. Did he “investigate” someone? I don’t know. Is collecting information the same as investigating? Moreover, I have had the pleasure of reading some “investigative reports” from and for congressional committees in my field – biotechnology. You bet they were substandard.
It’s great to have a committee. But there is no way to keep the process from being queered by people who are determined to steer the committee right off the road. Too many times now have I seen people go out their way to make sure that only the wrong questions are asked. Clinton’s impeachment is the textbook example.
Anyway, thank you for the article, Professor, but the real message is that he is obviously ineligible and everyone, democrat and republican is too scared to announce the truth.
The tenor of the beginning of your article suggests there is no basis for investigation, but you end up suggesting there should be an investigation. I think it would have been much stronger if you started out noting that Obama is obviously avoiding answering questions. In the spirit of government waste and abuse, he insists on spending millions of dollars to avoid disclosure of a document which would only cost around $10 to disclose.
My proposal, Professor, is that history will remember you much better if you become a loud and persistent proponent of an investigation now because there are too many blatantly obvious issues all labeled “Constitutional crisis.”
All the best,
Cort Wrotnowski
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Editor’s Note: Cort Wrotnowski was the plaintiff in Wrotnowsky v. Bysiewicz in 2008 which claimed that Connecticut Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz had failed to determine that Barack H. Obama was eligible to have his name placed on that state’s presidential ballot. The U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the case. However, last year, Secretary of State Bysiewicz attempted to run for Connecticut Attorney General and was declared ineligible by the Connecticut Supreme Court due to her lack of ten years of “active practice” of law.
Maybe the whole birth certificate topic is a “cover-up” to the continuing investigation of 9-11. Anyone that mentions a conspiracy regarding that subject is branded a kook also..
Manning has approached the entanglement of those two topics. The revelation of the birth certificate won’t clear up the subject, a certificate is after all just a piece of paper, easily manipulated to look authentic…then what.
Here is the article when SCOTUS rejects appeal in Dec., 2008 –
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/15/supreme-court-rejects-another-appeal-questioning-obamas-us-citizenship/
Read the comments and then ask yourself what do they think about their hero NOW??
Will anyone be going to D.C. on the 4th of March(Friday) to cover this?
“Supremes to give eligibility case another look”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=264897
My personal belief – He was not born, but was “issued” by the CIA.
If you google up USURPERVILLE read comment #666
Please read this, just the facts plain and simple.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49258416/Requirements-and-Criteria-Which-Must-Be-Met-for-One-to-Be-President-Why-Barack-Obama-dosn-t-make-the-cut
All it will take is one birther bill to become law and Obama is finished. He wouldn’t get reelected. That should be our focus….keeping him off the ballot…the birther bill can do that.
James, we cannot wait for 2012.
It is imperative that Obama be removed from office BECAUSE he is Ineligible and always has been ineligible!
If he survives a full term, everything he signed; Executive Orders, (“Czar”) appointments, bailouts, and noxious bills will survive him.
If he is impeached, the Impeachment process will give him standing as a President, for only eligible office holders are impeachable.
Impeachment will not nullify his bad work. Besides, Impeachment by it self will not remove him from office. Bill Clinton was impeached, but not removed from office. We can not take that chance.
Cort,
You live in Connecticut. As you probably know, CT has a birther bill in the works. Is there any way you can take your position, research and advocacy to the CT legislature in support of the birther bill? Perhaps you may be able to become a possible advisor to committee who is to review the birther bill currently on the table there. Maybe you can also lend help to Texas and Georgia, where birther bills there are gaining support and traction. I think at this point it is not possible to remove Obama from office; Obama will serve his term. The goal now is to bring the eligibility issue to forefront to keep Obama off the ballot from being reelected. That should be the primary goal at this time. It will only take one state to pass a birther bill that will ask for Obama’s long-form BC. Once that happens, Obama is finished.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Cort is already on the case!
Sounds great. Cort needs to contacts and friends in the CT legislature. But, if he can help in Texas and Georgia, he only needs the contacts to do it. Leo Berman of Texas would be interested in what Cort has to say as well those in Georgia. Cort just needs to contact and get that networking and work the magic.
Of course, I meant “eligibility” and not “ineligibility”.
woops, and everyone else.
Many of us have written our legislators, news paper editors, and have blogged ad nauseum. Virtually every attempt has been ignored. What you see happening in the middle east will come here. It need not but when the government et al refuses to even uphold it’s own laws then it is up to the people to right the wrong.
We live in a sad time I’m afraid.
Greg
On two occasions, the author wrote the opposite of what he meant:
— “there IS a definition of natural born citizenship, even if it is spelled out in statutory law”,
instead of:
“there IS a definition of natural born citizenship, even if it is NOT spelled out in statutory law”
and
— “without impunity” instead of “WITH impunity”
This tendency to confuse a meaning with its opposite may explain why he didn’t understand that, when Professor Rice speaks of “speculation”, he also includes the so-called “Obama”‘s paternity story.
The “Yasser Arafat” comparison is an acknowledgement that the drunkard from Lake Victoria most likely is not Soetoro’s biological father: to call him such is but a speculation.
As a consequence, unless it is clearly established that it is the putative father, rather than the biological one, who counts for Article II natural-born citizenship, to conclude that Soetoro is ineligible is also a speculation.
That the alleged COLB is a forgery would also count as a speculation, unless established by a contradictory procedure involving several experts.
More concusive are the facts
— that anyone could get a COLB (and newspaper announcements) in Hawai’i without offering any actual proof of having been born there, and
— that to show an image of a document, any document, on the internet, is not legally acceptable evidence, and as a consequence proves nothing.
The only thing which is certain, therefore, remains that Soetoro has never given any legal proof of his ineligibility; and that is sufficient to cause a major Constitutional crisis.
That the COLB is a fabricated Photoshop image is as concrete a fact as they come.
Besides proving every which way, but Sunday, that the image is not, and could never be, a genuine scan of a real COLB, I demonstrated how it was actually made. I also issued a challenge nearly three years ago for anyone to naturally create a COLB that looks like Obama’s using any scanner and any genuine paper COLB they could find.
Since no one stepped forward, I accepted it myself.
Basically, the people still insisting that the online COLB scan is not a forgery – have no proof to show otherwise, and/or have no idea of what they are actually seeing.
Obama’s online COLB is a one-of-a-kind image that is unlike any made before it or after it, real or fake. That is, until I reverse-engineered the process and then reproduced one exactly like it.
It took two years of intensive scientific research to figure it out – and also to figure out who is the forger and what was the “Chain of custody” in its distribution.
The bottom line is that one cannot get from Point A (a paper COLB) to Point B (an image scan) under any natural circumstances whatsoever, and that the only way Obama’s COLB image could have been made is the way I described and demonstrated in my videos.
I even discovered that the forger who made the original image – and it was an absolutely brilliant creation – missed a number of key features as well.
The Left cannot begin to wrap their brains around the idea that the COLB is a composite image that required, among other things, a separately-added three-piece border, a separately-added modified background (security paper), a separately-added date-stamp, and a multilayered text template.
I made the videos for documentation purposes and also for anyone to replicate my experiments. The Left will never watch any or attempt any experiments because the outcome will go directly against their belief that the COLB is genuine.
Wouldn’t it be fantastic if Mr Wrotnowski’s eloquence helps this Professor to clarify his own position (in the right way, of course).
He could then submit a piece to a prestigious Law Journal (or three).
Once he has spoken out this way, others will surely follow, and no matter how many Obot clerks are placed in the courts, a veritable Tsunami of truly Learned Opinion/judgement will roll over the whole great nation.
Okay, so my comment is this:
042-68-4425
This is a fact. Why won’t anyone prosecute the felony?
That, and also felony document fraud, identity fraud, wire fraud, interstate commerce fraud, election fraud, voter fraud, Internet fraud, electioneering, vote supporession, voter intimidation, and racketeering?