Was Abercrombie’s “Quest” for Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate Staged?


by G-Starz

Gov. Neil Abercrombie announced in late December that he would seek to make public Obama's birth record despite his state's UIPA law which prevents such without Obama's written request

(Jan. 22, 2011) — Yesterday an article was published in the Honolulu Star Advertiser entitled “Abercrombie Drops Quest for Obama’s Birth Certificate” written by an unnamed Associated Press writer.  Here are my comments:

In an incredibly lame and cowardly anticlimactic announcement, hiding behind his spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie’s spokeswoman, in plain political defense, in the Hawaiian Sun Advertiser, said this:

There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document.  Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.

The Star Advertiser continues:

Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama’s parents and knew him as a child, launched an effort last month to find a way to dispel conspiracy theories that the president was born elsewhere. The governor said at the time he was bothered by people who questioned Obama’s birthplace for political reasons.

But Abercrombie’s investigation reached a dead end when Louie told him the law restricted his options.

Here are several important points that need to be noted that only make the situation all the more suspicious to any reasonable person, Dela Cruz’s Hillary Clinton-esque “right-wing conspiracy defense” notwithstanding:

  1. Bad political news is always dropped late Friday at the end of the news cycle in the hope that it will disappear from general view. The timing almost conclusively suggests that they do not see this as a win for themselves.
  2. Rush Limbaugh has officially, albeit belatedly, entered the debate full-throttle with the opening of his show this same day, highlighting the absurdity of the Abercrombie quest investigation. This must have been pretty alarming to the Obama camp, as Limbaugh’s embracing of the issue is likely to make it safe for many others outside of Limbaugh’s 20,000,000-person listenership to do the same.
  3. Disqus may be on the fritz as of this writing, but comments on the Honolulu Star Advertiser appear to have been scrubbed. No certainty on this yet.
  4. Abercrombie’s truly cryptic announcement is especially strange since he appears to know Obama personally and quite well. Referring to Obama and his records in some uncharacteristic, distant, un-introduced, third-person narrative suggests something is indeed very, very wrong in Obamaland on this issue.

Limbaugh suggested that Abercrombie must have been a front for some scheme of Obama and could not possibly have been such a loose cannon that he acted alone and without White House authority on a topic as sensitive and explosive as this. Abercrombie being a lone loose cannon now appears to have been exactly what happened. It appears that Abercrombie made a naive but good-natured mistake; he may have trusted Obama at his word.

But the genie is out of the bottle: Abercrombie is on record as saying that the document may well not exist. Those words will ring very clearly as we move into election mode.

Obama is reported to be pulling up stakes of his DC organization and moving the election headquarters to Chicago. How he intends to get on the ballots of several states now demanding a long-form birth certificate without a long form birth certificate, however, is anyone’s guess.


Editor’s Note: David Louie was an attorney for 33 years in Honolulu before being appointed to Hawaii Attorney General by Governor Neil Abercrombie in December 2010.

The Post & Email found the comments following the Star Advertiser’s article here.

37 Responses to "Was Abercrombie’s “Quest” for Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate Staged?"

  1. The Obama Timeline author   Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 5:59 PM

    Among my sources for The Obama Timeline are former University of Hawaii students who knew Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and who never saw him with anyone named Stanley Ann Dunham. In fact, they never even heard of her. Further, they say that Obama, Sr. never spoke of an American wife or a child. They are convinced that he was not the father of the thug-in-chief but, not surprisingly, they are afraid to come forward publicly.

    Look at photographs of the Obama family on stage in Grant Park, Chicago, on election night 2008. Then ask yourself two questions: “Why is Michelle Obama wearing a dress with a big red X?” and “Who puts their little girl in a black dress for a celebratory event?” (I don’t even know where one could buy a black dress for a little girl.)

    Obama is a strong believer in symbolism (purple ties for solidarity with SEIU, ACORN cookies at the White House Christmas party, etc.). Ask yourself what message Obama was conveying with his family’s attire on election night. (Many in the black community know.)

    My guess on the birth certificate is that Obama’s grandmother filed a request for a birth certificate, stating an at-home birth. That request is what is in the Hawaiian files, but a formal birth certificate was never issued because the family never provided documentation to satisfy the state. Whatever information is in the files was amended, probably after Obama’s adoption by Lolo Soetoro. The records may show the adoption and name change, to Barry Soetoro. If Obama became an Indonesian citizen via a legal adoption, that is certainly something he would have to hide – especially if he never bothered to again become a U.S. citizen after his return to Hawaii. If he went to college as a foreign student, that is reason to keep his school records secret.

    Obama/Soetoro not only wants to avoid being kicked out of the White House, he wants to avoid being deported to Jakarta.

    And for any of you who contributed to Obama’s 2008 campaign, I hope you are willing to join in a class action lawsuit charging Obama with fraud for collecting your money when he knew he was ineligible to serve as president. (Some people contributed $1.00 for the sole purpose of being able to file such a lawsuit in the future.) Not only could Obama find himself thrown out of the Oval Office, he might end up in court with a judge ruling that he must refund $750 million in campaign donations. (That would certainly take a bite out of Michelle’s shoe budget!)

  2. The Obama Timeline author   Tuesday, January 25, 2011 at 5:34 PM

    ON January 10 the Supreme Court voted to refuse to hear Orly Taitz’s Obama eligibility case, Rhodes v. McDonald. Neither Sotomoayor nor Kagan recused themselves from the vote (as they should have).
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: I thought the request was for the Supreme Court to consider whether or not Orly Taitz should have been sanctioned the $20,000 as a result of the Rhodes v. MacDonald case.

  3. Aussie   Monday, January 24, 2011 at 3:33 AM

    Abercrombie is lying when he claims that he knew Øbama as a child. It is impossible. There is evidence that a few weeks after Øbama was born, Ann was in Seattle Washington where she had enrolled at Washington University for a bridging course in the fall. She did not return to Hawaii until after Barry Sr. had moved on to Harvard. Then she sought to divorce him. This means that for around 1-2 years Ann was not in Hawaii.

    It was within the next year or so that Ann met and married Lolo Sotoreo and then she took Barry to Indonesia. He went there at around 5 years of age.

    I doubt that in that two year period, prior to Ann moving to Indonesia that she had anything to do with Abercrombie and his friends.

    Abercrombies was a drinking buddy of Barry sr. Prior to 2008 he had more or less stated that he had not known Ann but he had seen a girl turn up to one of their coffee shop Communist meetings. So it would seem that he was not great friends iwth Ann and he did not know Barry. He is a liar through his own admissions.

  4. Chester   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 5:51 PM

    to Bob 1943

    Thanks for the information. Most US universities are propagandists for the left wing. Don’t know if that is the case regarding Tim Adams, but it could have been done without outside suggestion.

    My key question is: Who gave the “Hospital Letter” to Abercrombie? (Trying to be an amateur Sherlock Holmes.) I am surprised that I don’t find any discussion on this.

    The conflicts are obvious. The hospital says they know the letter is genuine because Abercrombie delivered it. However, the WH (Gibbs) refuses to confirm its source. Then, someone in the WH (according to Rush’s plausible theory) OKs Abercrombie press release. Next, Abercrombie announces that there is no existing bc (confirming Tim Adams.)

    Is someone directing this theater or mistakes were made by the protective team? And, who gave the “Hospital Letter” to Abercrombie?

    Sherlock – give us inspiration.

  5. FollowtheConstitution   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM

    Since the only issue behind all this for HA is their little ole law preventing them from releasing this then why don’t they just amend their law where it exempts this provision when it pertains to people running for political office? Simple solution and problem solved! Tell the new Gov to just issue an executive order declaring this effective immediately. Since he IS the commander in chief of HA then he has the power to issue executive orders the same as the commander in chief of Washington DC does!

  6. johnny says   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM

    limbaugh probably does not know what a natural born citizen is.

  7. G-Starz   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 1:46 AM

    On the assumption that Obama is truly ineligible (an easy assumption, but still), my own feeling is that they made the same assumption about power being able to buy a fake as an option, but an option only people not about to commit a fraud would make. IMO, the people in the WH are very clearly not deep thinkers; they seem to shrug off larger, intelligent concerns, such as the consequences of ramming through legislation that no one wanted and assuming they could spin their way out of a horrible price in the November elections, which they paid, of course for such stupidity. That kind of sloppy, arrogant logistical thinking could easily result in people moving forward with a casual notion such as, “Look, if we get stuck, we’ll just get the best people to fake one” without actually knowing in advance if it could be done. Oops. Like time travel or needing sediment from the center of the planet Pluto by next tuesday, it’s simply physically impossible.

    You can’t just spray the forgery paper with the same chemicals, because they have an effect on the microscopic structure of the paper that only time can create. When you start looking at things through an electron microscope, things become very clear indeed. A fake would be pathetically obvious.

    To put it bluntly, someone is being very stupid. Stupid to not release a long form if it exists (even if embarrassing), stupid if it doesn’t and to think that they could just spin their way out of the issue until it went away, stupid to think they could fake one. This just isn’t good thinking on their part. No matter how you slice it, it’s just simple and sloppy and stupid.

    I know we need to be careful, because they may just try a forgery in desperation. I’m not saying we should accept it if a cursory forensic analysis makes it either acceptable or “indeterminate”. I’m saying if they pull something out of a hat, we need to really push that thing under the most intense scrutiny. If that happens, the fake will show up like a neon red ball on a dark gray carpet. You just can’t fake what occurs to paper and ink on a microscopic level after 50 years in a high humidity, highly specialized environment, and I don;t think anyone is willing to risk the consequences of multiple life sentences for each offense, especially with Issa chomping at the bit for investigations and president Boehner the guy they would need to plead to for clemency. (In a way, Hawaii was one of the worst places for Obama that this could happen – the deterioration and absorption in a place like ultra-dry Arizona, for example, while still identifiable, would be much less obvious. Hawaii is salty, has high humidity and would form characteristics of absorption and deterioration truly unlike anywhere else in the U.S. making a fake many times even MORE impossible to pull off when put under the scrutiny of sophisticated absorption tests and, particularly, an electron microscope,)

    Even if they could find 50 year old paper and 50 year old ink, you can’t fake what the ink DOES to the paper in 50 years. 50 years is a very long time worth of chemical changes and deterioration if you want to try to fake something on paper and have it stand up to an electron microscope.

    This whole thing is falling apart in a very amateurish way. It’s pretty obvious, now.

  8. Bob1943   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 1:37 AM

    Great post and I agree. I don’t think the “perfect” fake is going to happen. In addition to the points you made I don’t think linking all the people, offices, signatures, registrar records, place of employment, if one, and especially the hospital and their records, and involving a lot more people in this scam/cover-up without something bursting at the seams could be pulled off. Not now anyway….too late.

  9. Bob1943   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 1:32 AM

    The election clerk guy, Tim Adams I believe was his name, was never discredited in any way. He was shut-up. According to the reports I read Adams was doing interviews and actively saying he knew “no long-form birth certificate for Obama exist” and he would testify under oath to that fact.. Then, the college he works for in Kentucky told him to shut up about the BC. The question this brings up is who told the college to shut Adams up?

    I agree with the others who say it’s time to increase the pressure on this issue. Abercrombie, Matthews,,,,,,,,,and soon others I believe, are very close to the “time to do something to cover my own butt” stage in this, the mother of all scams/cover-ups. It’s our job to give them the last little push that opens the floodgates.

  10. johnny says   Sunday, January 23, 2011 at 1:04 AM

    that is correct. a forged birth certificate without two u. s. citizens parents named on it will not help obama. proof of hawaii birth is not enough to qualify him as a natural born citizen. he must also have two sovereign american parents. that is his big problem.

  11. Tonya Franklin   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 11:35 PM

    I spoke with someone named Michael the yesterday at Abercrombie’s office (campaign) I tried to explain I needed to speak with someone regarding our comments being deleted off of Mr. Abercrombies facebook site. He assured me that administrators were doing that not Mr. Abercrombie himself. When he asked what our comments were so he could put me in touch with the right person, I said it was regarding why he said he would be releasing Barry Soetoro’s Birth Certificate….that is when he started yelling “OH your a Birther!!”, to which I replied no I am not actually, I was curious about Mr. Abercrombie saying he didn’t have one on file now, I believed that Obama isn’t a Natural born citizen of two parents. He continued yelling and saying “Obama’s mother was a citizen” and I said I am not calling to be yelled at and he doesn’t get to interpret the law. I was calling to file a complaint about our comments being deleted and I told him I was recording him yelling at me. He said that is against the law in Hawaii and to that I replied “I’m not in Hawaii.” For the record I wasn’t recording what he was saying. lol The reason we left the comments on the page in the first place was to see if they would be deleted. I proved my point. Experiment complete and the results are in they’re scurrying and scattering. Please call! We have calls to action each day on our fb page Millions To Protest Barrys Eligibility Call Issa’s office and Boehner all week…Please! Emails and remember to keep threats of any kind out of it. If they get more than 10 emails about one subject it starts getting notice. We need THOUSANDS of callers flooding their offices this week. It is an important issue to Americans to know that their President is CONSTITUTIONALLY eligible…Natural Born not Naturalized of 2 Citizen Parents. He admittedly is not eligible.

  12. DABIGRAGU   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM

    I believe it is, Obama Researcher. There are plenty of reliable persons out there who will tell you it is. Note who makes light of them, answers your question.

  13. Chester   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 11:33 PM

    RE: “Mrs. Rondeau replies: Faux White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs (who is leaving his post at the end of the month) did state in a press conference that “We posted it on the internet.” So he was taking at least partial responsibility for doing so on behalf of Obama. However, it was Factcheck.org or Politifact.com which posted it first, not Obama. We really do not know if Obama ever released anything at all.”

    Thank you for correcting me. However, Mr. Transparency could still say that Gibbs was wrong and he never authorized Gibbs to make any statement about his bc. So he is still immune.

  14. Chester   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 11:15 PM

    You say that Rush is wrong, and maybe he is, but are you offering an plausible explanation?

    I agree with Rush that the governor must have checked with the WH before his press-conference and received an OK. An experienced politician would never make a mistake, not checking before. However, I don’t envy the guy in the WH who gave the OK.

  15. Texoma   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM

    This is really interesting information. It makes me think that he might not be able to pull off a forgery, as I have always that he could do (if required), given that he is the most powerful man on the planet with many very rich friends.

  16. Chester   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:48 PM

    He said he can not find it. It is non-existent, so he can not subpoena a non-existing document. By the way, the discredited election-clerk-guy is vindicated.

    The Birther movement should now concentrate on quoting the governor that the bc does not exist. Ergo, he was not born in the US.

    Clear and simple logic – even the elected representatives and judges should understand it.

  17. SqueekyFromm   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:46 PM

    I have been posting a lot on the Star Advertising story about this, and so far Birthers are just kicking a$$ and taking names!!! I think this is good because Gov. Abercrombie might read the comments, so I made sure to put a link to my “Abercrombie Punks Out!!!” Internet Article!!! Maybe he will read it and get embarrassed some.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  18. Texoma   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:41 PM

    The birth certificate, even if genuine, cannot prove his eligibility — it can only further disprove it, should it show a foreign birth. The document that they cannot “produce” is the one showing Obama Senior to have been a US citizen, and this is because he was not a US citizen. Obama is ineligible due to the fact of his non-citizen father. Obama was born subject to a foreign power, which is the same Presidential disqualifier for naturalized citizens.

  19. Chester   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:24 PM

    Agree with johnny.

    The original should have the doctor’s name and similar details that experts could verify. However, they pretended for 2 years that the COLB is good enough, so an expert forgery could have similar treatment – calling anyone who questions it names.

    Face it, they could get away with it because all three branches of government and the media would continue cooperating.

  20. kailuagirl   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:10 PM

    Staged, yes. The core objective is to redirect the focus singularly on the birth certificate at any time the subject matter turns in the direction of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. The Obama handlers work overtime making sure the conversation does NOT turn towards NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Notice Limbaugh did not in anyway mention or discuss NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. I am convinced…the birth certificate is red meat in the water…and still to this date…the masses jump in the water and feed. The Post & Email is the light in the tunnel…NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is the winning ticket.

  21. Chester   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 10:03 PM

    Please correct me if I am wrong, but Mr. Transparency never directly claimed that the COLB published on the internet was his genuine COLB. The publishers were organizations probably affiliated with him, but not he himself. It was, however, assumed by many, that he published it. So if the COLB is a forgery he is immune. Do not underestimate your president.

    By the way the so called “hospital letter” was never confirmed by the White House as original either. So that could have been forgery as well. There is an interesting connection with regard to that letter. The hospital said that the reason they know that the letter was originated in the WH was that Mr. Abercrombie delivered it.

    This story is getting very mysterious. All three branches of the government are determined to sweep it under the rug. We need a Sherlock Holmes to solve it.
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: Faux White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs (who is leaving his post at the end of the month) did state in a press conference that “We posted it on the internet.” So he was taking at least partial responsibility for doing so on behalf of Obama. However, it was Factcheck.org or Politifact.com which posted it first, not Obama. We really do not know if Obama ever released anything at all.

  22. G-Starz   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 9:37 PM


    These are great, easy, can-do things people can engage in and make a real impact in just a matter of minutes. Terrific. Great work! I hope everyone does.

  23. G-Starz   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM

    By G-Starz

    Why Obama Probably Won’t Try Producing A Fake Birth Certificate.

    There is much speculation from my last editorial that the whole Abercrombie fiasco was smoke and mirrors to set the stage to release a fake Birth certificate. No one knows, but my own feeling is that this is unlikely in the extreme, and there are reasons:

    Very simply, the science of forensics is different from and far surpasses the science to fool it. Presumably as part of the analysis the original would be compared to other documents of the same time period and general place, and that general place could be any office in the state of Hawaii that goes back far enough. Those documents would have absorbed chemicals in the air over the decades and the chemicals themselves would have changed in composition, and effected the microscopic composition of the paper that absorbed them.

    The paper would be of a certain weave, the fold marks deteriorated in a particular way matching only like-aged documents from the same general area.

    The ink the form was printed with would be particular, and that chemical composition would have aged and changed, only matching like-area and aged documents. The inks with the signatures would be particular and would have aged also only matching similar documents. And because of the island environment, the documents would have aged in a very particular way indeed.

    All these patterns under an electron microscope, compared to similar documents in a similar way, would reveal the most carefully and skillfully manufactured fake in 2 seconds, and then people go to prison for the rest of their lives, and Obama STILL gets removed from office, only now with the crime of the cover up, which is where the real punishment lies.

    Plus, we’re only talking about one document. All Obama’s school records, original passport, documentation as to when he changed his name from Barry to Barack, etc, are being sought, and all those would have aged in their own way and would only match similar documents from similar times and places, and could be compared against any number of millions of similar documents that met the age and location criteria.

    This is why I think everyone in the Obama camp is clearly getting panicky. They probably found out after the fact that faking the documents would be, essentially, impossible, even for the most powerful man in the world. The science required simply does not remotely exist. It’s the true original or nothing. If they’re brazen enough, they might fake one and only allow photocopies, and give those over to the states to get on the ballots in the hope that they can stall turning over originals indefinitely (an extraordinarily stupid thing to do, but so is allowing yourself to be sworn in knowing you are not eligible to hold the office). My own feeling is that getting on the ballot is the only thing Obama cares about on this issue besides getting caught if he is, in fact, ineligible – meaning Issa’s investigation or larger public pressure that becomes unendurable.

    Therefore, convincing those state officials to not accept a photocopy and only a forensically verified original, or the statement from the forensic office that can be trusted, may be our next battle, so start planning ahead.

    In the meantime, keep the pressure up everywhere. The people around Obama may just get cold feet like Matthews and Abercrombie and decide to abandon defending Obama on this issue. Supportive e-mails to GOP rep Issa regarding his investigations will also be helpful.

    We’re very close, in my opinion, to breaking this wide open. My own feeling, for what it may be worth, is that we’re a lot closer than we may even be aware. Clearly, this mystery is simply cracking at the seams, now.

  24. johnny says   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM

    to bob 1943 —- i agree. it is too late for a forgery now. he did not forge a real birth certificate in the beginning. also i believe forenics experts such as dr. polland can detect a fake by examing a copy. he did it with the fake colb after a copy was posted on line. he took one quick look and deemed the colb a fake.

  25. James   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM

    We need at least 100,000 persons to call Hawaii Monday morning and demand that Governor Abercrombie seek Obama’s consent to release the Birth certificate. Below is the contact information:

    Everyone call Donalyn DelaCruz Monday morning:

    Donalyn DelaCruz

    Press Secretary to Gov. Abercrombie in Hawaii

    808-586-0012 – It is a direct number that may lead to Ms. DelaCruz’s voice mail. Go ahead and fill up her voice mail.

  26. James   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM

    ATTENTION!!! FaceBook Users!

    Please go to the following FaceBook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000478724054#!/abercrombieforgov

    Please Post on Governor Abercrombie’s Wall and demand that Abercrombie contact Obama for consent for the release of the birth certificate.

    We need as many people as we can to do this.

    Please do so now!


  27. butterdezillion   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM

    Who would have standing to view the original? The states would not get the original. They would get a certified copy, and you can’t do forensics on that.

    And even if there were blatant discrepancies on what they forge – as there are on the Factcheck COLB – just requiring the birth certificate to be SHOWN will not provide a way for honest Americans to force their state officials to do anything about it.

    We need to be very deliberate in the laws that are crafted because there are persistent problems that have caused the big problems we’ve experienced and unless the exact requirements are enacted those same problems will keep us from getting justice again, even if a long-form BC has to be shown.

    State lawmakers are incredibly busy, and especially now that they’ve got budget issues to deal with. They haven’t had the time to follow the ins and outs of this issue closely, so they can’t be expected to know all the pitfalls we have to avoid. I very strongly believe that we need a bill like the one I propose at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf in order to close all the loopholes that would be used against us and against the US Constitution. The rationale for why we need these particular measures is posted at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/please-encourage-your-state-to-pass-this-bill/ . We need one state to pass a bill like this in order to close the loopholes.

  28. Obama Researcher   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 5:48 PM

    This will blow your mind. absolutely blow your mind.


    Can anyone verify if the above is true.


  29. Bob1943   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 5:15 PM

    I disagree….Rush may be right 99% of the time but IMO he’s totally wrong on this one. Obama’s time for the “expert” fake is over, the window has closed. There is no expert fake that can contain all the information contained on a real 1960 Hawaii long-from birth certificate and withstand a close inspection.

    What happened IMO was Mr. Abercrombie set himself up with “plausible deniability” by saying he was going to release Obama’s long-form birth certificate, whether Obama wanted him to or not. Now, when the charade is over and the stuff hits the fan, Abercrombie can say, “I really thought he was born in Hawaii, that’s why I was going to release his BC, until I was told I couldn’t”. Abercrombie is a friend of Obama’s who almost certainly knows for sure that Obama was not born there. We are however, getting very close to the “cover your own butt” phase of this incredible scam and it’s cover-up.

    Do not give up; keep up the pressure, the calls, the e-mails, the letters and especially posting everywhere you can. The percentage of people who are “birthers” even if they begin their post by saying “I am not a birther” has gone way up.

    We are winning!

  30. SqueekyFromm   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 5:04 PM

    I don’t think it was staged because if it was, because any political benefits would have been more than offset by the negative impact. If Obama was born in America, and is still refusing to resolve this question after 3 years, then the most likely answer is that he thinks he is getting political advantage by it. Sooo, maybe they still think that, which means Obama and the Obots are even stupider than I thought because the original plan, if any, backfired to where 58% of Americans have some degree of doubt where Obama was born already.

    Plus, I wrote a Internet Article about this:


    Plus again, everybody go to the Star Advertiser website and make comments. I have on yesterday’s story, and today’s too, and there are a few Obots there spouting their usual crap.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  31. AttilasDaughter   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 4:12 PM

    I cannot quite follow.

    How do You explain the race? He doesn’t need to be African American, Polynesians look very much like Obama.
    Do You mean there was another child beside Stanley Ann and the father…..
    Then they made look like it’s Stanley Ann’s?

  32. johnny says   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    news organizations and various people will have forenics experts examine closely any birth certificate produced by obama. i do not believe they will try that. the kapolani hospital would have to be a major part of any forgery for obama. to many people could end up facing criminal charges. forging a birth certificate at this stage is much easier said than done. he should have tried that in the beginning.

  33. Annonymous Patriot   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 3:24 PM

    Exactly and BHO committed fraud when he had his forged COLB posted on the internet and falsely alleged that his Long Form BC was on file in Hawaii.



  34. ch   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 1:47 PM

    Obama has opened the vault. He posted a COLB, thus opening his birth records. That COLB is a prima facie document, which means it can be verified upon request. By posting his own COLB, he has said publicly here is my document, which says it can be verified if questioned. Take the COLB and Hawaii to court, for refusal to verify.

  35. chris walters   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 1:40 PM

    I’m starting to hear it might be Incest. Incest could destroy the “one”. Consider Incest and take a good look at the man in question. Just saying……

  36. Annonymous Patriot   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 1:33 PM

    Rush is absolutely correct.

    Abercrombie has set the stage for BO to release his expertly forged BC. Remember the one that BO falsely alleged that he had in “Dreams of my Father?

    BO will not be on the ballot in several States unless he releases the forged BC that he has had expert forgers curing for the past two years.

    Of course, BO will release his expertly forged BC and he will have the MSM to cover for him.

  37. G-Starz   Saturday, January 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM

    It appears that Disqus was indeed on the fritz when that was written. My mistake.

    TRUTHBETOLD on the comment section of this story in the Hawaiian Sun Advertiser made the following comment which perhaps should really be the focus of this entire story.

    Neil Abercrombie is the GOVERNOR he has the POWER TO SUBPOENA and get the BIRTH CERTIFICATE. The AG is [[[[ LYING ]]]]

    That’s actually true, so the suspicion only deepens to historic levels. When this breaks open fully and the truth is exposed, people will be analyzing this for decades to come..

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