WILL HAWAII EVER COME CLEAN ON OBAMA?
by Sharon Rondeau
(Oct. 22, 2010) — The Post & Email has been requesting Certificates of Nomination from the Hawaii Elections Office since July but has been denied access, even though the documents in question have been in the public domain for many months and have been reported on extensively by other researchers and bloggers.
We previously reported that our requests to both the Department of Health and the Elections Office and those of many other citizens have been stonewalled, denied, ignored, or responded to by an attempt to bill the other party for an item that was never produced.
Our requests for the Nomination Certificates began:
To: <elections@hawaii.gov>
From: Sharon Rondeau
Date: 07/28/2010 05:49PM
Subject: REQUEST FOR DOCUMENTS
Hello, I would like to request the following documents:
Certificates of Nomination for the 2000, 2004 and 2008 presidential elections for both major parties (DNC and RNC) plus the Hawaii state DNC and RNC. Could I get paper copies mailed to me? If not, I will take PDFs. I am willing to pay for any copying charges.
I am not sure if your agency falls under the UIPA law, but if it does, please consider my request a UIPA request.
Thank you very much.
If I do not hear from you via email, I will call you by the end of the week to ascertain whether or not I have contacted the right department for these documents.
Sharon Rondeau
to which the following reply was received:
From: Elections@hawaii.gov
To: Sharon Rondeau
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: REQUEST FOR DOCUMENTS
Aloha Sharon Rondeau,
As you want records from 10 years ago and this is the middle of our election cycle, it will take us some time to gather the information as it is packed in our warehouse. The information is not in pdf format.
Please know that we have not forgotten your request but are making attempts to get the information together.
We will be in touch shortly.
Mahalo,
Lori Tomczyk
Ballot Operations
Office of Elections
to which we replied on August 8:
Thank you for your response to my request. I appreciate the fact that you can search for these documents dating back some time. Again, please let me know the cost of retrieving the documents.
However, during the next 30 days, nothing was received, so we sent the following message:
From: Sharon Rondeau
Sent: Thu 9/09/10 5:02 PM
To: elections@hawaii.gov
Hello, were you able to find any certificates of nomination filed with your state for past presidential elections? It doesn’t have to be every single election; even if you can find those for the last two, it would be very helpful for my research project.
Once again, I have requested Certificates of Nomination filed with the state of Hawaii Elections Office for presidential elections 2008, 2004, 2000, and anything else you might be able to find.
Thank you so much.
Sharon Rondeau
and on September 15, we received the following reply:
From: Elections@hawaii.gov
Sent: Tue 9/14/10 11:57 PM
To: Sharon Rondeau
We will be able to assist you after the 2010 Elections are done. Currently our resources are limited to current election activities, but we will keep your request on file for followup after that time.
Office of Elections
State of Hawaii
This response was unsatisfactory, so we contacted the Office of Information Practices, which was established by the Hawaii legislature to enforce the Open Records, or UIPA, law.
From: Sharon Rondeau
Sent: Wed 9/15/10 9:58 AM
To: Linden Joesting (oip@hawaii.gov)
Bcc: Redacted
Good morning, Ms. Joesting. Unfortunately I have to contact you again regarding information that a Hawaii department will not produce. I believe their decision to put off producing the documents until after the November election is a violation of the UIPA law, ridiculous on its face, and unnecessary stonewalling.
All I have asked for is certified copies of the DNC and RNC Certification of Nomination forms for presidential elections 2008, 2004, and 2000. I would think that the 2008 ones are in PDF format and can be quickly accessed and emailed to me. I cannot imagine that the others would not be easily accessible as well.
I am therefore appealing the Elections Office’s decision to withhold the documents for at least two more months.
This request was originally placed six weeks ago, and I believe I have been courteous and patient with the Elections Office. I have also offered to pay for all copying and other costs involved in procuring the documents.
Please let me know what else you need to intervene so that I can obtain these documents which should be available to the public.
Thank you.
Sharon Rondeau
A researcher familiar with the UIPA law and OIP regulations responded to our inquiry about the stonewalling:
They have to respond within 20 business days. They are only allowed to extend the standard 10 business day response by another 10 business days due to extenuating circumstances. This is a 15 minute job, max. i would push back. See pages 30 on in http://hawaii.gov/oip/UIPA%20Manual%205aug08.pdf
On September 20, 2010, the following letter was received from Attorney Linden Joesting at the OIP:
The text of the letter reads:
Ms. Sharon Rondeau
Re: Request for Assistance to Access Records (U RFA 11-11)
Dear Ms. Rondeau:
The Office of Information Practices (OIP) has opened the above-referenced file relating to your request for assistance in obtaining access to records from the Office of Elections under the Uniform Information Practices Act (Modified), chapter 92F, Hawaii Revised Statutes. We will contact you if we require any further information to assist you in this matter.
For your information, you are entitled to seek assistance from the courts where you have been improperly denied access to a government record. HRS § 92F-42(1). Such an action for access to records is heard on an expedited basis and, if you are the prevailing party, you are entitled to recover reasonable attorney’s fees and costs. HRS §§ 92F-15(d), (f). If you decide to file a lawsuit to obtain access to the records, you are required to notify OIP in writing at the time that the action is filed. HRS § 92F-15-3.
Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at 586-1400.
Very truly yours,
Linden H. Joesting
Staff Attorney
The documents from the Elections Office were never sent, nor was any other correspondence received, so on October 22, 2010, we sent the following letter to Attorney Joesting:
From: Sharon Rondeau
Sent: Fri 10/22/10 11:04 AM
To: Linden Joesting (oip@hawaii.gov)
October 22, 2010
Dear Ms. Joesting:
Thank you for your September 20 letter intervening on my behalf with the Hawaii Elections Office to obtain state and federal-level Nomination Certificates for 2000, 2004 and 2008.
I still have received nothing from the Elections Office despite your reminding them of the ten-day obligatory time frame and my several requests preceding that. Their failure to comply would seem to show that Hawaii Elections Office employees have no problem in violating their own state law despite a reminder from you, an attorney employed by the Office of Information Practices, which was formed to enforce the law.
These documents are already in the public domain, having been released to other requesters before me, so I do not understand why they are not readily available in PDF format or by regular mail, the costs of which I have offered to pay. Is there some type of discrimination going on?
I will be publishing a story at The Post & Email about the lack of cooperation I have received from the Elections Office. At this point there is abundant evidence which shows that the Hawaii Democrat Party gutted the “constitutionally-eligible” wording for Obama in 2008 and relied upon the Democrat National Committee to include that wording in their Certificate of Nomination. Hawaii was the only state to receive a Certificate of Nomination signed by Nancy Pelosi with that specific wording. Does it not alarm you that state political operatives have changed required wording on their form, and now the Elections Office, which should be non-partisan, is blocking the public’s access to records? What about the UIPA, or “Open Records” law?
If the Hawaii Democrat Party refused to certify Obama and Biden as constitutionally-eligible as required by state law, has a crime not been committed? Has an ineligible candidate been allowed to lie about having been born in Hawaii and proceeded to run and win election for the Presidency of the United States? Is the Hawaii Department of Health involved in a cover-up of the facts surrounding Obama’s birth and other details of his life by similarly denying the public access to records and information which also should be readily available? Legitimate requests for verification letters have been denied; people’s requests for general information have been ignored; and the Hawaii Department of Health even tried to say that a requester “owed” money to them before processing a subsequent prepaid request when the first request had been abandoned in writing months before. You are an attorney; does that not seem like extortion to you?
Why do you think the Health Department and Elections Office are acting in such a fashion? Is it because they know that any records that Obama has on file with them are falsified? What about Tim Adams, a former Elections Office employee, who said that it was well-known that Obama had no long-form birth certificate from Hawaii? Is that why the Hawaii Democrat Party refused to certify Obama as constitutionally-eligible? Doesn’t the public have a right to know?
Do Hawaii’s state employees wish to have a foreigner commanding our troops and signing legislation which he has no right to do? Do they realize the jeopardy in which they have placed every man, woman and child in this country if Obama is a foreign-born usurper to the presidency?
I do not relish the idea of a discrimination lawsuit, but perhaps that is the only way that I will obtain the Nomination Certificates from the Hawaii Elections Office. That is really a shame and reflects poorly on your entire state, where government corruption seems to be the norm.
I will appreciate a response from you regarding why the Elections Office has failed to respond to both your request and mine for the Nomination Certificates.
Sincerely,
Sharon Rondeau
Editor
The Post & Email, Inc.
www.thepostemail.com
Janice Okubo of the Hawaii Department of Health has stated that a “long-form” birth certificate can no longer be obtained, but the video here shows that it is still available upon request. However, the article in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin which quoted Ms. Okubo is no longer available.
More detailed photos of what appear to be both long-form and short-form birth certificates from Hawaii as well as the necessary request form are pictured here.
We are awaiting a reply from Attorney Joesting and/or the Hawaii Elections Office and will report on it as soon as it is received.
Don wrote, “If you prevail, which is highly likely, as attorney, Joesting pointed out they must pay you for all reasonable costs, fees, etc. approved by the court, and a judge can immediately order them to produce all documents you have demanded within a specific time frame. That should be real short in view of their long unwarranted delays. It would be ideal if an attorney admitted to the Hawaii Bar filed the suit pro per. If an attorney will not handle the case pro per, then his or her costs would be paid in any judgement against the Election Department. The case is ripe for a suit.”
The case is beyond ripe, to full-bloomed rotten and stinking to high heaven.
Given that the Office of Elections and the Office of Information Practices have willfully brushed you off and treated you with such contempt, you should go for the kill and demand every document they have that is remotely connected to their certification of the impostor… a fishing expedition, if you will.
This could be the best opportunity to date for leveraging their manifestly gross malfeasance of office into full disclosure of all the facts.
Bust ’em, Sharon! Thank you for your perseverance and patience in pursuit of the truth.
Sharon, time is just passing and the Elections Office just continues to blow you off and not provide the documents you are legally entitled to get. In view of the letter to the EO from attorney Joesting with the OIP, why not proceed to file a legal action, with the law all on your side? I have seen the name of at least one attorney who sends emails to your site and who lives in Hawaii. Why not ask for his assistance in filing the legal action which by Hawaii law, must be expedited. You win, you get the documents, and reasonable attorney fees must be paid by the OE. If you agree to proceed, you have my commitment to send you a check of $200 to help with filing fees. I urge others to make a commitment to you so you, can see how we will support you and such a legal action. How could the EO defend itself when the violations are so blatant?
If you announce you are going to file, my check will go out immediately. Thanks.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Could you have the Hawaii attorney contact me at editor@thepostemail.com? I am unaware of who he or she might be.
thank you sharon, how long do ”WE THE PEOPLE” have to put up with all the lying, all the corruption, taking our country to the unknown, sad days are ahead,
By the way, NO Hawaii will never come clean. They’ve never been ”clean” and they don’t give a rats ass about coming clean and doing the right thing. That’s why low lifes like the Dunhams moved there. Hit em where it hurts stop visiting them, stop buying their dang pineapples & go vacation or buy property in AZ ! Go to LA, Ms and visit the gulf states. If HI doesn’t respect the US constitution and its own state laws they don’t deserve to be part of the U.S.A. Our corrupt Govt is greasing that states palm & buying their silence on BHOs past. But tourism is Hawaii’s main bread & butter, so stop vacationing there and tell all your peeps the same!
We can’t cut them loose, as they would form alliances with our enemies for sure, but
we can punish them with boycotts galore as you say.
Shovel ready project #1 for us is to bury the Obamas and ALL their
Progressive friends.
the way i look at this is….they will be destroyed too, just because there miles and miles away makes no difference..we fall they fall………..
The State of HI will continue the run around & shell game re BHOs records I’m afraid. Thank you to Sharon & P&E for the most informative, truthful & professional site regarding the imposter Barry Soetoro. I’m with Rev.Manning on so many levels, we have become ”Little Orphan America” since American voters keep buying the MSM crap, they continue to tow their party line & they still believe our Govt is going to do the right thing. This Hawaiian run around, the mess in AZ, Acorn, Black Panthers, CAIRN, ground zero Mosque, the FED, the wars, and so much more should tell you we are lost! Quit towing your party line, quit praising FOX & their shills. Start speaking up and support only those who suuport the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence!
I would like to answer the question regarding Hawaii which appears under the picture of their flag.
Pursuant to the British Nationality Act of 1948 Barry Dunham aka Obama,Jr. IS a British Subject/Citizen. Obama.Sr. was a Brit and Hawaii used to be a British protectorate.
BTW,Hawaii was illegally annexed and is not legally a state of the USA but a sovereign nation. In any event, Obama,whether born there or not is NOT a natural-born American by virtue of the fact that he does not have two citizen parents as per the definition of NBC found in the “Law of Nations” See Article 1,Sec.* of the US Constitution:
“Congress shall have the power to….define and punish…offenses of the Law off Nations”..
Article 2,Sec.1 of that same document requires that a President be a “Natural-born citizen”,the definition of which APPEARS in the aforereferenced “Law of Nations” which Congress has the power to enforce and which Obama has violated.
The avalanche has started; nothing will stop it. But who will be known as the first little snowball?
Sharon, excellent job! They seem to be willing to take all the rope you are giving them.
Like everyone else has said Sharon, great letter. I am proud to be a small part of this website.
I sent the Hawaii Democrat Party a politely worded email asking them to please explain why they changed their presidential certification letter for the 2008 election to leave out any mention of “certified by the U.S. Constitution”. I pointed out that those words were included in the 2000 and 2004 letters of certification. I, of course, got no response
I even became a “member” on the HDP website to be able to email them. They have probably cancelled my membership. lol
On the matter Mrs. Rondeau is pursuing, why is the Hawaii Elections Office so reluctant to release the documents requested, since they are already available in various places on the net, albeit they are not “certified” copies?
Wow! Great letter Mrs. Rondeau! The lack of response from the Hawaii offices tells us all we need to know. They are guilty and they know it. All requests have to be responded to no matter what the circumstances are (minus natural disaster) and making you “wait until after the elections” is a croc! If they cant handle the work load they need to hire a couple of temps and get the job done!
Cannot wait for the reply on your letter!
All the best wishes for the best site on the web!
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: With our readers’ support, that will happen. All we want is the truth.
Stay on this Sharon as you have attorney Joesting from the OIP on the record reminding the the Election Office of the time limits of the law. Of course the EO knows the law and rules and has just blown you off. You appear to be in a very strong position to bring a legal action, as you did excellant documentation and were professional in your letters. In view of the long term EO blatant refusal to cooperate, and prima facia actions to delay and refuse to provide information you are legally entitled to receive, under their own rules and laws, why not file a legal action which must be expedited, and in view of the documentation to date, and the recent letter from attorney Joesting, it would be fascinating to see what a court would decide. The great weight of the evidence is on your side, and their own rules and legal remedies are clear. They have clearly violated their own rules so how could they justify that to any judge? I would love to see their answer and their position. That could be very revealing in itself, as the facts speak for themselves. If you prevail, which is highly likely, as attorney, Joesting pointed out they must pay you for all reasonable costs, fees, etc. approved by the court, and a judge can immediately order them to produce all documents you have demanded within a specific time frame. That should be real short in view of their long unwarranted delays. It would be ideal if an attorney admitted to the Hawaii Bar filed the suit pro per. If an attorney will not handle the case pro per, then his or her costs would be paid in any judgement against the Election Department. The case is ripe for a suit.
KUDOS to Sharon!
Stop Them Cold!
Arrest The Criminals.
Thank you, Mrs. Rondeau
C O U R A G E
Great letter Sharon. You go girl. Please go to our workgroup and look at the latest post by SEO regarding proposed bills on records. I think you have another big story here.
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Sharon, I am very impressed with all your requests to Hawaii, but especially with your October 22, 2010 letter to Linden Joesting to which she must reply with full compliance – to all of your requested information, or else she is defining herself as being 100% complicit in this egregious cover-up, and definitely as a co-conspirator in the obama usurper fraud scheme.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: I would hope that she sees it that way.
I hope you can maintain good relations with Atty. Linden Joesting, because she appears to be the only good apple in the barrel. How is she able to oppose the corrupt HI bureaucrats without being slapped down for being “a loose cannon?”
Sharon, What an excellent letter!!! Now we will see if the lawyer will throw the full weight of her office at them!!! I doubt it !!!! Bet she dosen’t have the courage?
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: We shall see. If someone breaks the law, he or she needs to be brought to account.
Right on Sharon! No more Ms. Nice girl!
Can’t wait for the reply.
Thank you for all you do.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: You’re welcome.