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OFFICERS MIGHT BE PROSECUTORS, BUT THEIR AUTHORITY COMES FROM THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF

by Sharon Rondeau

Cover page of William Winthrop's 1886 work, "Military Law and Precedents"

(Sept. 19, 2010) —William Winthrop was a colonel in the United States Army who wrote a treatise entitled Military Law and Precedents first published in 1880 as a compilation of JAG opinions.  The second edition was published in 1920 but shows a copyright date of 1896.  The work has been called “The blackstone of military law.”  The book was reissued in 2000 by Beard Books and is available from several vendors, including in Canada.

Prior to his enlistment in the U.S. Army, Winthrop was a practicing attorney.  His 1895 revised compendium acknowledged changes in “Army Regulation” and “statutory authority” and was used for “the instruction of the Cadets of the Military Academy” (page 7).

The current publisher describes the work as follows:

This comprehensive treatise details early military law, written and unwritten, and explains all of the intricacies of the courts martial process. Notable adjudications by civil courts and in military trials as well as the opinions of law officers are covered. Separate treatment is offered on the law of war and on the civil functions and relations of the military.

The second volume of Winthrop’s book makes reference to “The Law of Nations” and states that “the Law of War” “is quite independent of the ordinary law…Finding indeed its original authority in the war powers of Congress and the Executive, and thus constitutional in its source, the Law of War may, in its exercise, substantially supersede for the time even the Constitution itself…”

Chapter VI discusses “The Constitution of General Courts Martial”:

The law authorizing and relating to the constituting of General Courts-Martial is contained in the provision of the Constitution making the President the Commander-in-chief of the Army.  In the Seventy-Second and Seventy-Third Articles of war, and in Secs. 1230 and 1320 of the Revised Statutes.  By this law the authority to constitute these courts is vested in—I, The President; II, Certain military commanders.

In regard to the authority to convene a court martial, Winthrop provides the following historical background:

Upon the adoption of the Constitution and the division of the powers of the government, the executive power, previously exercised by Congress, was transferred to the President, and with it the function of commander-in-chief…Among these powers was the authority, properly incident to chief command, of issuing to subordinates and the army at large such orders as a due consideration for military discipline might require, and, among these, orders directing officers to assemble and investigate cases of misconduct and recommend punishments therefor—in other words orders constituting courts-martial.

Winthrop states that several presidents, both during peacetime and war, had used their authority to convene courts-martial (pp. 59-60).  He then states:

Meanwhile, indeed, the provision of 1830, now incorporated in the second clause of the 72d Article, had specially devolved it upon the President to appoint the court whenever the military commander, otherwise competent for the purpose, should happen to be the “accuser or prosecutor” of the officer to be tried; but the effect of this, according to recent ruling, was “to limit the authority of commanding officers, not to confer power upon the President.”  And the authority of the President to order such courts, generally and at discretion, as commander-in-chief, continued to be exercised irrespective of such provision.  Otherwise indeed it would have resulted that many officers and soldiers, not under the command of a “department” or “army” commander, including general officers, certain officers of the general staff, cadets of the Military Academy, and sundry enlisted men of the Engineer Battalion, or Ordinance or Signal corps, or acting as clerks in the War Department, would, prior to 1874, (or, in the case of the cadets, 1873,) have remained exempt from amenability to military justice, to the serious prejudice of discipline. (page 60)

On page 61, Winthrop states:

“…a general power given by a statute to a subordinate is given necessarily to the superior, since the greater, in the system of military discipline and authority, must contain the less…A military officer can not be invested with greater authority by Congress than the Commander-in-chief, and a power of command devolved by statute on an officer of the Army or Navy is necessarily shared by the President…

2. UNDER THE 72d ARTICLE OF WAR. In the second clause of this Article it is provided that when a military commander authorized by the first clause to “appoint” a general court-martial, is the “accuser or prosecutor” of an officer of his command proposed to be brought to trial, the court shall be appointed by the President.”

Cdr. Walter Fitzpatrick (Ret.) generously gave his time to The Post & Email to explain the concept of “attainder,” to whom the authority belongs to convene a court-martial, and the impact of a broken chain of command if indeed Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible to serve as President of the United States.  He discussed in detail how it affects Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has refused to obey orders based on his contention that Obama may not meet the constitutional qualifications to issue orders.  Cdr. Fitzpatrick also discussed the potential results of Col. Denise Lind‘s recent claim that she and the Pentagon have the authority to conduct Lakin’s court-martial without authorization from the putative commander-in-chief.

MRS. RONDEAU: What is “attainder,” and why is it used in the military?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: I’ve worked very hard over the years to make the idea of “attainder” easily understood and accessible to anybody who comes to it.  You’ve already published it:  Punishment without law, punishment without a jury.  That’s what “attainder” is.  A court-martial is the practice of attainder.

MRS. RONDEAU: How did the practice of “attainder” evolve?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Attainder is the practice of kings and parliaments, dictators and generals, when a single person has the power to rule alone; they don’t need anyone else to accuse a person and then find them guilty of some kind of criminal act and then visit punishment upon that person.  The examples in British and European history, more widely, are found everyplace.

At the point in American history when we were under attack from the British and being oppressed by King George III, the moment of battle came upon us very rapidly.  In the colonial administration, the Continental or colonial Congress, had all it could do with getting ready to fight that war and then actually engage the enemy, which included all the kinds of things that go into standing up against an armed force such as Great Britain.  We didn’t have time to make rules for the military, but we had to have something.  John Adams probably summed it up most succinctly, which is to say that before the British, the Romans used this system of military law; why don’t we just use it, too?…which is the court martial.

It is indeed the practice of attainder:  to rule by a single person, to punish troops summarily and quickly with expediency.  There are certain circumstances when you can come up on a troop who’s in a foxhole, asleep on watch, and shoot that man dead.  That has happened.  That’s the kind of summary judgment you have in the military: an expedient command that you have of people in the use of attainder, and it’s used for any number of reasons.  The motives behind exercising punishment by the state directly against the citizen are a long list.  But in our early days, we didn’t have time to figure out how; it was a distraction that we could not afford.  We needed to get engaged with the enemy right away, so it’s one of the few times in history where you had the enemy, the combatants, fighting against each other using the same rules.  We adopted the British rules of martial law to govern our armed forces during revolutionary times.

When the war was over and we were looking at standing up a brand-new Congress under a brand-new constitution that was to govern a brand-new nation, there came a point in time when our legislators in this country had a duty and an obligation to take a look at the rules for the military and reconcile them with the brand-new constitution.  We came under a brand-new government with the United States Constitution upon its ratification.  That reconciliation has never occurred.  There was a time between the Revolutionary War and the ratification of the Constitution and its acceptance as our form of government.  There was a period of time when we didn’t have an army and we didn’t have a navy.  We stood them down.  So those rules that have been used for the Army and the Navy no longer applied because we didn’t have an army or a navy.  And that was at the moment in time when the Constitution came to life.  So the Founders had an obligation to take a hard look at the rules for the military, reconcile those rules with the Constitution, and they never did that.  Because the military has been declared a different part of our country, they don’t get the same protections that you and I have as regular citizens, it came to pass that those people who are defending the Constitution with their lives are not protected by the Constitution.  It’s because we’re still using a form of government in the military that finds its source in the British practice of attainder.

MRS. RONDEAU: Can the military system be changed?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: It has to be changed.  It’s a matter of a constitutional command.  Through all of its 200+ years of history, there has never been enough force to bring upon the Congress, in the House of Representatives and the Senate, to make them look at this, deal with it and fix the problem.

Back in the day, John Adams was there, and he talked about the difficulty that would be placed upon us in trying to do that.  It was not an easy issue, and I think it would be much easier today to bring our troops in under the protection of the Constitution.  I don’t see where it would be that difficult.  So the Congress has always been able to punt.  We’ve never forced them to fix it.  There have been several times in United States history where we came close, but the Congress had still never substantively dealt with reconciling the Constitution of the United States with the Articles of War.  During the Revolutionary War, they were called the “Articles of War,” but they’ve been renamed the “Uniform Code of Military Justice.”

And of course, because of the facility of attainder, it works very well for someone who wants to rule by himself or force the rules on a citizenry.  Military commanders love it.  That’s why they’re not objecting to it.  But it’s a problem that has never been substantively addressed.  It normally comes up after a war or a major conflict.  The Uniform Code of Military Justice became the UCMJ at the conclusion of World War II when we had anywhere from 12,000,000-16,000,000 people in uniform.  On any given day, the number could be different; it depends on whom you talk to.  But then you have their extended families.  During World War II, a whole lot of people were connected to the military; more than most times of our history.  A lot more people during World War II were exposed to the scope and operation of the military discipline system during that period of time than almost any other time  in U.S. history, and they were not happy with what they found.  They were pretty upset.

So the vets came home at the end of the war and related to their neighbors, friends and families and to the Congress exactly how draconian this system of martial law was.  And that’s when the Articles of War used during the Second World War for the Army and Navy became the Uniform Code of Military Justice.  There was another dynamic at work at the time, which is that we had the beginning of the United States Air Force.  The U.S. Army Air Force was being transitioned into the U.S. Air Force, so that was another dynamic in the late 1940s when they were wrestling an alligator, and it was a contortion of conflicting interests to try and get this thing cobbled out to make it look as if it was  a system of justice that paralleled, or very closely mirrored, what goes on in a civilian criminal setting.

This is written in Winthrop’s Curse, which I sent to you.  The military discipline system has never been anything other than a patchwork; a smorgasbord:  Pick from Column A, pick from Column B…it has been nothing but a mess.  During the course of the Civil War, again, the exercise of the Articles of War was draconian, and that was not necessarily the driving force behind an inspection of the Constitution and the President’s role in the exercise of our Constitution.  Lincoln was under extraordinary scrutiny from, among other people, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Justice Taney.  Because Lincoln, during the course of the Civil War, suspended certain parts of the Constitution.  His famous quote was “The Constitution is on a suicide pact.”

Having said that, there are moments in our history when the Constitution cannot be our law of the land; we must go to a dictatorship; we must go to a military martial law.  It’s at those times when the country is facing extreme necessity at the point of death.  That was part of what was going on during the Civil War.  At that time, the Constitution doesn’t work.  If we had armed forces coming here from another country right now, we would have to turn off the Constitution; we couldn’t use it.  We’d have to go to a dictatorship so that we could martial our forces in a way where we could prevail and survive as a nation, and then with that, by extension, keep our form of government alive.  But the Constitution is not well-suited to defend a nation when it’s under the kind of attack that might end the life of the nation.  Those moments in time come and go, but they’re brief in their span, all things considered.

So there’s a need for martial law; I understand it, and I would hope that in those times we have decent people doing the right thing, but that doesn’t always happen.  However, there is a time and a place for martial law, and it was during the course of the Civil War that Lincoln, for example, found that to be the case and said, “We just can’t do this anymore,” and for that, he came under extraordinary scrutiny.

MRS. RONDEAU: Because the people were afraid that he was turning into a dictator and that things would stay that way?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Right.  But Lincoln was murdered, and I believe that in that moment in time, he was getting ready to restore the Constitution to its full glory.  I’m sure that’s what he would have done, but that happened anyway.  In the moment, you had military personnel such as this Colonel Winthrop who recognized the danger that came from a Supreme Court scrutiny which would have engendered legislative scrutiny into the scope and operation of the military discipline system.  And it was a mess.

So after the Civil War, Winthrop put together this two-volume text, although it didn’t begin as two volumes.  He wrote and published; then he wrote more and published; then he wrote some more and he published.  The two volumes that I have here are his work as it existed and was republished and recast in 1896, three years before he died.

But you get the sense of it.  After the Civil War, Winthrop wanted to maintain this military discipline scheme, and he recognized that it was not constitutional, so in his defense of this military martial law, Winthrop discusses early on in his 1,000-page work that “the Constitution is too weak; it’s too feeble; we can’t use it for the military; it doesn’t work quickly enough; it’s not encumbered by the embarrassment of the civil law, etc.”  So Winthrop was clearly writing as a man who was intent upon maintaining the military’s own government.

MRS. RONDEAU: Was that over civilians as well?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Yes, as a matter of fact, but to a limited degree.  Winthrop wrote about civilians who are embedded with the military.  During the Civil War, they were called “camp followers.”

Do you know where the term “hooker” came from?

MRS. RONDEAU: No, I don’t.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Joseph Hooker was a Union general, and he had camp followers, some of them women.  These camp followers became known as “Joseph’s Hookers.”  So what I’m saying is that there were many, many kinds of civilians near an army for any number of reasons:  to provision them, resupply them, carry their goods and provide services of any type and kind.  Winthrop recognized the need to bring these camp followers under the military law because they had information which could have been very dangerously compromised or delivered to an enemy force.  For that, Winthrop correctly observed that when people were close to the army like that, they have to be governed in a military environment.  But only in that time of war that I’ve described:  War with a capital “W,” when the life of the nation is at risk.

Take, for example, the War of 1812.  Who knew where that was going to go at that time?  We were being put asunder by an enemy force, the Brits.

So for part of the civilian populace, the Articles of War apply, but only in that time of war as I use it here with a capital “W.”

Winthrop stated that martial law (military law) is of such great age and dignity, it is so grand and so efficient and so good that it should be imitated.  He said, “The lawyer who, if he has not been led into the old error of confounding the military law proper with martial law, has perhaps viewed this as consisting of merely an unimportant and uninteresting scheme of discipline, and the lawyer will, it is hoped, discover in these pages that there is a military code of greater age and dignity and of more elevated tone than any existing American civil code.”

When he says “American civil code,” he’s talking about the United States Constitution.  Let me read that again:

The lawyer will find in these pages a military code of greater age and dignity and of a more elevated tone than any existing American civil code, as also a military procedure, which, by its freedom from the technical forms and obstructive habits that embarrass and delay the operations of the civil courts, is enabled to result in a summary and efficient administration of justice well worthy of respect and imitation.

Winthrop’s attack on the Constitution is veiled, but it’s there.  If nothing else, he wanted to ensure the survival of the military law proper.  That’s where his Military Law and Precedence comes from, and he wrote a very impressive work.  There is a need for a military law.  Maybe by cleaning it up the way he did, when it did come into operation, it was more efficient in its application of the Articles of War than it was before he wrote these books.  But to suggest that it should become the law of the land is frightening.

MRS. RONDEAU: Is that what we’re seeing between Gen. Carla Hawley-Bowland and Col. Lind with the court martial of Lt. Col. Lakin?  Are they forcing military law on both him and the rest of the population?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: It’s worse than that.  I believe that if Winthrop, writing this in 1896, could have pulled it off, he would have said, “The military doesn’t need a commander-in-chief.  We can operate on our own.  We can do this all by ourselves.”  To his credit, in his writings, Winthrop recognizes the authority of the civilian commander-in-chief.  The first paragraph of the preface to the 1886 edition of Military Law and Precedence begins:

In view of the absence and want of a comprehensive treatise on the science of Military Law, it has been for some years the purpose of the author—a member of the bar in the practice of his profession when, in April, 1861, he entered the military service—to attempt to supply such want with a work, which, by reason of its extended plan and full presentation of principles and precedents, should constitute, not merely a text book  for the army, but a law book adapted to the use of lawyers and judges.

In other words, “You know, the new people coming into the military scheme of things are going to be shocked by this, so let me see if I can square it away.”  So he started in 1861.  He says, “The present treatise was essentially completed in 1880,” which meant that he worked on it for almost 20 years, and he was doing what he could in those days in the field to get this squared away.  It started in 1880, and it was 16 years in its gestation to come to the point where I’m holding it in my hand.  This is a paperback reprint which comes from the year 2000.  This book is still in print; I’m using it now today, in this conversation.  This is the foundation of military discipline.  This is how we know what we know.

I have another book, actually more of a pamphlet, which talks about the patchwork.  This came from medieval Europe.  Now to come back, how does this all relate to what’s going on today with Lt. Col. Lakin, Gen. Hawley-Bowland and all these other people?

I’ve been talking about treason as it’s practiced by military commanders for 21 years now.  When Obama came to office, I see now that the impostor commander-in-chief, the fake, disrupted the military chain of command in a way that it’s never been disrupted in our history.  This cannot be allowed to continue.  Mr. Obama’s treason is extraordinary.  He’s been attacked over and over and over on this treason.  The significance with what’s going on with Col. Lakin today is that you now see, as has been predicted, military personnel joining in Mr. Obama’s treason.  They are trying to visit upon Col. Lakin an authority that this country does not recognize at all, or ever, which is the authority of the military on its own to do whatever it wants.  They’re breaking their own rules because under those rules, they recognize that they don’t exist; they cannot operate without a legitimate civilian president as commander-in-chief.  That’s the first issue.  You can’t operate the United States Armed Forces under our Constitution and under these adopted Articles of War; everywhere you look, you will always find a legitimate civilian president as commander-in-chief.  You find it in Winthrop, and you find it in the Manual for Courts-Martial, which has been around since the early 1950s.  You see it everyplace.

There has never been a time when there has been a question about the legitimacy of a civilian president as commander-in-chief, and there has to be a civilian president as commander-in-chief for the Armed Forces to be issued orders.  Now you start getting into the details about how this particular court-martial is operating, and they have just given us a window into what it is they’re doing.  The ruling of 2 September told us this:  Bowland and Lind do not know for themselves whether or not Obama is legitimate.  Have you read that ruling?

MRS. RONDEAU: Some of it.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: It’s only ten pages, and you don’t have to read every word of it, but it says in there that in arguendo, the Latin term for “the sake of argument,” “We don’t know whether Obama is legit, but that’s not the issue here.”   So they admit to the fact that they don’t even know, but they’re going to proceed on their own authority to court-martial Lakin.  That’s really dangerous, because they can’t proceed on their own authority.  That’s against the law.  Do you know what that’s called?  That’s called treason.  They cannot proceed on their own.

As you find in Winthrop, the court-martial is the creature of an order, and this is military jurisprudence vs. constitutional jurisprudence.  It’s in there.  The court-martial is the creature of an order.  What is an order?  It’s an executive mandate.  This comes from Winthrop; again, the bedrock of military law and discipline.  There’s no argument about that.  So let’s just make believe that today we don’t have a Col. Lakin; we don’t have anybody who’s standing in the dock, and all of a sudden, the commander-in-chief or someone acting on his behalf recognizes that there’s been a crime committed inside the military which is justiciable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.  Let’s say it’s Sharon Rondeau.  Come hither, Sharon, we’re going to court-martial you, and the reason we’re going to court-martial you is that we’ve received an order from our commander-in-chief, a civilian president.  We have an executive mandate here which says that we must court-martial you and by that, determine whether or not you have committed a crime, and then within that, determine what punishment you should receive if that’s appropriate.

The first duty of the people who have received the order from this man, the commander-in-chief, is they must know if he’s legitimate.  They have to know for themselves that Mr. Obama is legit.  For the sake of this conversation, let’s just say that he is legit.  Then all of this stuff about Lakin would be a non-issue, wouldn’t it?  Lakin is saying the same thing:  whatever order this man gives is not lawful because he’s not the commander-in-chief.

Lakin could have brought any dog into this courtroom that he wanted.  And every court-martial that’s been conducted under Obama is unsustainable for the reasons that I’ve already laid out.  You can’t do it.  So the military is using this opportunity to disconnect itself from the requirement, the constitutional command, that a legitimate commander-in-chief be in office.  The military is saying here, “We don’t need him.”  That’s really bad.  That’s the significance of the Bowland-Lind operation as it exists today.  They say, “We do not know for ourselves that Obama is legit.”  So then the question becomes, “OK, ladies, how is it, then, that you can proceed with the court-martial if you don’t know for yourselves that his orders are lawful?”

Now the issue of attainder returns, because once you get into that court-martial environment, they can do whatever they want to you because there’s no jury.  It’s punishment without the oversight of a jury.  If there were a real independent jury of people from a community as is stated in the Constitution, Lakin could walk away from this thing.

MRS. RONDEAU: But these ladies, in this case, are totally disregarding the Constitution and essentially saying, “We don’t care if he’s legitimate or not.”

CDR. FITZPATRICK: That’s right.  What they’re saying is that it’s not a factor in the Terry Lakin court-martial, that it doesn’t play a part.  And I’m thinking to myself, “Excuse me, it is at the heart of this case.”

MRS. RONDEAU: Because Lakin wants to know whether or not Obama is legitimate, and they won’t answer the question.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: They can’t answer the question for themselves; they say that they’re not going to answer. So how can they proceed?  They’re not operating under a lawful order, either.  That’s Lakin’s defense.  All he has to do is stand up and say, “OK, from where does the authority flow into this court-martial hearing room?”  In other words, Lakin can ask them the question:  “OK, this court-martial is proceeding because you two have determined for yourselves that it can.”  And this goes back to 1 September, because we didn’t know where Bowland and Lind stood exactly, but now they’ve put it in writing, so hallelujah.

But on the first of September, anybody could have stood up and said, “Excuse me, ladies, but how do you know that he’s legit?  That’s your duty; you have to figure that out first for yourselves.”  And they didn’t do that.  Now they’ve told us that they don’t care; it’s not the issue, and they’re not going to deal with it.  And I’m saying to them, “Oh, no.  This is the issue that’s out there.”

So that’s where you get the White Paper.  Then you see the consequences that come from a court-martial of Terry Lakin.  Whether or not he’s punished or not punished, this court-martial, which is under way right now, without a legitimate commander-in-chief, allows the military to be free from the command of a civilian president as commander-in-chief and to do whatever it wants.

MRS. RONDEAU: The U.S. Constitution was supposed to protect us from that by designating the President as Commander-in-Chief.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Exactly, but that’s not the case anymore.  This is treason in its highest form.  And you have military commanders who have yet to stand up to Mr. Obama and say, “Excuse me, sir, but I have a question about your eligibility here, your birthright…” and no active-duty military commander has done that, except Lt. Col. Lakin.  There have been military officers who have objected, and I’m one of them, but no active-duty people that I can point to other than Lakin.

MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think it is fear that’s preventing them from confronting him?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Upton Sinclair said it well:  “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”  In other words, these admirals and generals get promoted because of their go-along-to-get-along demeanor.  They’re like leaves in the wind.  McChrystal would be one of them.  They’re animals, frankly, political animals.  They drive me nuts, and I’ve run into them before.  So they’re going along to get along; it’s the avarice of rank.  They’re wearing stars on their collar; that’s a very, very empowering kind of thing.  That’s what you strive for in the military:  to succeed in what you’re doing.  It’s what I call the avarice of rank and the position and power that come with that.  They get a pretty hefty retirement; they get to be called “Admiral” or “General” for the rest of their lives; it’s a very lofty kind of feeling; it’s rarefied air that they breathe.  That’s part of the reason why.  Once they retire, if they go along to get along, who knows what other kinds of jobs and positions and power will come their way?  General Jones, who is now the national security adviser, is one example.  I could point to other admirals and generals as well.  Why would they not talk against this?  Because it’s not in their best interest.

MRS. RONDEAU: Personally, yes.  But what about the Constitution that they took an oath to uphold?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Now isn’t that the pesky question?  Where is their allegiance?  This is what I have been saying for a long, long time, and this should stand the hair on the back of your neck on end.  I know it does.  I learned 21 years ago, and I have been saying it from that day to this day that I realize the betrayal by my senior officers, and I have been calling this out for 21 years.  You have military officers in high rank who are no more obedient to the United States Constitution than is Mr. Obama.  We have military commanders working against the Constitution.  They’re working against it for their own self-interests.  We see that going on now in real time, in demonstrable, real ways, with Gen. Hawley-Bowland and Col. Denise Lind.

MRS. RONDEAU: In a corporation or private company, if the executives are caught embezzling money or committing some other crime, they are normally brought to account.  Isn’t what’s going on within the military now criminal?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Yes.  You have a government machine here which is doing everything it can to protect itself.  This is tyranny writ large; this is treason writ large.  Anybody who stands up and speaks against the government gets knocked down.  Their families get knocked down or they get knocked down.  There are people out there who are cowards and they’re going along to get along because, you know what? It’s working for them.  Sinclair Lewis said, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”  That’s what we have going on today.

MRS. RONDEAU: I think this is what came as a shock to all of us following the eligibility issue:  that these generals and high-ranking officers are actually playing a political game.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Oh, yes!

MRS. RONDEAU: I think many people were shocked that no one at that level stood up before the electoral votes were counted to head off a constitutional crisis.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: You’re talking to one now who did.

MRS. RONDEAU: Yes, and there have been other retired military who did.  But the overwhelming question is, “Don’t the military want to know that they have a legitimate commander-in-chief?”

CDR. FITZPATRICK: You’ve got Terry Lakin who’s standing up. I recognize Lakin and I recognize Sergeant of Marines Timothy Joseph Harrington.  But the senior officers’ salary comes from the government.  If they bite the government by saying, “Mr. Obama, you are illegitimate,” there’s a consequence.  And they have their wives or their husbands to deal with who might say, “Oh, don’t do that, honey, because we’re going to lose your pension.  What will we do if we lose your pension?”  There are many forces that work against their coming forward.

MRS. RONDEAU: So they fear losing their pension, but would they rather that their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren live in slavery?

CDR. FITZPATRICK: It’s about their oath to the Constitution.  I point to a few people as being guarantors of an oath; not guardians, but guarantors of an oath.  Tim Harrington would be the first person to whom I would point, and that comes from a book that I’m holding in my hand right now called A Man for All Seasons.

MRS. RONDEAU: About Sir Thomas More.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: Taking away the religiosity of the situation, he took an oath, and he believed he took an oath to decency and what was best for his country.  He stood silently.  He didn’t proactively go after King Henry; it was King Henry who went after him.  Henry thought that he needed Thomas More’s approval to marry outside the Catholic Church, and he could not force Thomas More to abandon his oath to the Catholic Church.  So the story of Thomas More is the story of a decent, principled man who said, “I promised this to my people, to my country, to myself, and I am not going to sacrifice that oath or walk against it or act against it on the whim of some magistrate, some king, who is trying to serve himself” and do the impossible, which is to guarantee a succession of Tudor kings.  So Thomas More stood up to his oath.

So let’s apply that to the question of the day:  What does that oath to the Constitution mean to the people who are disrespecting it today?  Not a whole lot.  It is a perjury of that oath where we find them in today.  This is where it’s taking our country.  This is really, really bad and real trouble.  We cannot allow this court-martial; it must be stopped right now, and not because of anything that has to do with Lakin.  They must all be stopped, because we don’t have a legitimate commander-in-chief.

MRS. RONDEAU: And that applies to the war theaters, too; anything that’s going on with the military.

CDR. FITZPATRICK: That’s correct.  It applies to any order that is issued.  If the oath doesn’t mean anything, then what does that say for our country?  And these people who are disobedient to their oath, perjured their oath, are just cowards.

I’d like to come back and share again with you the concept of the military operating without oversight.  In Japan, if you look at the history of Pearl Harbor and how all that came about, the Japanese attack on us and the rape of Nanking, the Japanese military took over the government of Japan.  It operated without any type of oversight.  The emperor was completely oblivious to what his military was doing.  Without getting into the detailed history, it led to Pearl Harbor, it led to the Second World War, it led to a lot of people in China being torn up – that came at the hands of the Japanese, and the emperor just stood back idly.  The Japanese military, in that day, was doing what the United States military is trying to do today.  In other words, render ineffective any oversight by a commander-in-chief.  The commander-in-chief of the Japanese army was supposed to have been the emperor of Japan, but the military did not recognize his authority, and they said, “He’s too weak; he’s too infirm; he doesn’t know what he’s doing; he’s not a military man;” and so they went out and they acted on their own.  We cannot have that here.

Something else that Bowland and Lind wrote in that ten-page ruling of 2 September is that we, as military officers, and staff officers, who are not combat troops but are doctors, nurses, someone who provides food, chaplains – they’re not combatants as I am – we cannot challenge Mr. Obama because it might embarrass him (page 9).

The military is now populated by senior military officers who are no more obedient to the Constitution than is Mr. Obama.  That is extraordinarily dangerous.  I’ve explained the Japanese example during World War II.  Let’s talk about the German example.

In Germany, in the late 1930s and early 1940s, there were officers in the German army who knew that Adolf Hitler was a monster.  They knew that he stood against the Jews as a population and culture and that Hitler advocated “the final solution.”  Those officers, knowing that this man was immoral, delusional, crazy, knew that they had a duty to stand up to him and say, “You can’t do this.”  The reason that they didn’t do that, among others, is that “it might embarrass him.”  Oh, really? It’s just beyond our ability to describe, and using the historical parallels that we’re using right now –  what is happening is so frightening.

It’s all about one type or another of treason.  Treason is not something that is measured by degree.  Treason is treason; it is what it is.  As a singular event or action, it’s acting to the overthrow of your country so that you can impose upon people a totalitarian regime so they can practice something like attainder.

From Winthrop:

“…All military authority and discipline are derived from one source—the Sovereign, so in our army every superior, in giving a lawful command, acts for and represents the President as the Commander-in-chief and Executive power of the Nation, and the source from which [the senior officers’] appointment and authority proceed. Hence the dignity and significance of a formal military order and hence the gravity of the obligation which it imposes upon the inferior to whom it is addressed.” (page 572)

All orders come from the executive; they’re executive mandates.

Here endeth the lesson.

Preface of "Military Law and Precedents," 1886

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Thursday, September 23, 2010 8:34 AM

MY MESSAGE WAS DELETED FROM COURT MARTIAL PAGE.

Here is part of my questions, full reply can be seen at my blog El Usurpador just click on my name above to see it.

Mr. Sullivan

If Obama is a Constitutional president and per the Constitution the Commander in Chief like he said he is and he determined to send troops, why any judge or any military in service who took the Oath to the Constitution could not ask, verify or make sure after so many cases in court or comments by Constitutional experts to see his real long birth certificate verified by Hawaii as step one for his Constitutional post? Then after is done by the State ,the Senate should declare him natural born as they did with McCain, both parents at birth had to be citizens but Obama’s father was not citizen, then Senate will not override what they declare before it will have to be done by the Supreme Court, but they do not want to get involved like Judge Thomas said at Congress. What should We do then? Let it go, wait few years for the truth to come out or solve now by two ways, first at this Court Martial or an investigation by Congress to impeach the Usurper.

In the 19th century some new Republics in Latin America had their Constitutions similar to ours. Mexico in their 1917 Constitution has that to be elected president has to be a Mexican citizen by birth, in the full enjoyment of his rights, and the son of Mexican parents by birth.

In reference to your opinion below it’s like chinese to me, I do not understand.
If the Court Martial is giving to a soldier for not obey orders, and the cause for his reason exist but can not be seen by any one, like do not exist, the consequence is that we have the Constitutional Crisis we are facing. Some times I wonder how smart was Ben Franklin, when he gave us a Republic, and how ignorant we are because we didn’t know how to preserve it.

http://court-martial-ucmj.com/ltc-lakin-trial/

Dwight Sullivan 09.21.10 at 18:27
Ms. Mata, Colonel Winthrop indicated that the President has the power to convene general courts-martial as both an incident of his Commander in Chief authority and by statute under the Articles of War. Under Article 22(a)(1) of the UCMJ, that continues to be the case. But the President’s own power to convene general courts-martial doesn’t mean — and it isn’t the case — that military officers derive their authority to convene courts-martial from the President. Article I, Section 8, clause 14 of the Constitution gives Congress the power and authority “To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces.” Congress exercised that power by adopting the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Article 22 of the UCMJ (10 U.S.C. 822) governs who may convene general courts-martial. Among the classes of individuals so authorized is “any other commanding officer designated by the Secretary concerned.” There is almost certainly a Department of the Army General Order in which the Secretary of the Army has designated the Commander of the Military District of Washington as a general court-martial convening authority. That is the source of the convening authority’s power to create the general court-martial that is currently trying LTC Lakin and to refer LTC Lakin’s case to that general court-martial.

BTW, Walter Fitzpatrick’s account of history is seriously flawed.

Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:58 PM

Sharon I gave an answer related to this article,can’t post here it says it’s spam will publish at my blog el usurpador.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Yes, if you include a link in the first line of a comment, it marks it as spam.

Reply to  Mrs. Miriam Mata
Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:16 PM

Sorry I tried several times moved the link still tells me

Hmmm, your comment seems a bit spammy. We’re not real big on spam around here.

Please go back and try again.

Bob1943
Reply to  Mrs. Miriam Mata
Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:19 AM

Sometimes I get that message if I have more than about 3 links in my post…….

Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:33 AM

Great job, Sharon.

Reply to  CPT Pamela Barnett, USA Retired
Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:54 AM

Thanks again CMD Fitzpatrick.

Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:08 AM

I understand what Col. William Winthrop wrote, “…All military authority and discipline are derived from one source—the Sovereign, so in our army every superior, in giving a lawful command, acts for and represents the President as the Commander-in-chief and Executive power of the Nation, and the source from which [the senior officers’] appointment and authority proceed.”

But I don’t understand what makes this one man’s opinion, howeversomuch correct, the law of the land. Where is the principle spelled out in the Constitution? In the U.S. Code? In the UCMJ? In the understood but unwritten rules of the corps? In common practice?

The military does not become a headless chicken running around haphazardly just because the Commander-in-Chief is incompetent, injured, or otherwise incapacitated. No more does the entire military downstream cease to be legitimate just because one person in the chain of command is a foreign plant, a domestic enemy, or a traitor. Surely the chain of command is more fault tolerant and self-healing than that. That is why questioning or challenging an unlawful order and requiring identification of unknowns are built into the framework of military authority.

Or has “law and order” degenerated into “I don’t care what the Constitution says, do as yer told”? Maybe so.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: More background on Winthrop’s philosophy and how it affected military discipline over time is found here: http://jaghunters.blogspot.com/2008/08/jag-hunter-here-with-flight-line-tim.html

In the preface to one of the editions of Winthrop’s “Military War and Precedents,” it states that the book became a handbook for the Military Academy (it doesn’t say which one) and for the Secretary of War at the time. I have also been told by CDR Fitzpatrick that Winthrop is considered the most outstanding JAG in American history; therefore, his book made a significant impact on how military justice was meted out, if it can be called “justice.” The Post & Email will be performing more research on the life and writings on Col. William Winthrop to answer your question more fully.

Megan
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:51 PM

Thank you, Cdr. Fizpatrick, for the information and being a loyal American. Thank you, Sharon, for this interview. I truly believe this trial exemplifies just one more thread of a conspiracy to bring down America and move to global governance. Our military has been infiltrated and filled with self-interested traitors. It is so hard to believe that America, of all places, is full of so many Marxists and communists. P. S. I love the quote from Sinclair Lewis. How true it is, sadly how true.

Watching Closely
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:07 PM

I’ve read many postings on this and other websites that take aim at military officers for not acting on the Obama ineligibility issue. There are officers aware of this issue. We are in a difficult situation to do much about it. It is particularly difficult to explain to someone who is not in the military. As a military currently conducting two wars and suffering a high operational tempo, we incur a moral hazard to do away with good order and discipline to try to pursue the legal issues of Mr. Obama’s eligibility. Congress et al have created a situation in which officers like myself have to incur a legal hazard, because, unfortunately, it is better than the moral dilemma that would ensue if good order and discipline were allowed to disintegrate. If the military’s commanders do not use the UCMJ to maintain good order and discipline then we will fail in defending the Constitution and this Republic. It pains me to say this, but maybe this is a situation where military officers must suffer a Constitution breach and allow The People working through the ballot box to correct course. I hope that LTC Lakin’s case leads to discovery and puts an end to this debate or at the very least causes the (New) Congress to realize it must take action to remove Mr. Obama. Please understand there are many folks like myself who are keeping a watch on things. If I am ever asked to perform a duty that is abhorrent to the Constitutional underpinnings of this country I will refuse.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Your comment and readership are very much valued here, sir. However, the constitutional crisis which Obama’s questionable eligibility has forced upon the nation is at the breaking point. What happens to the Constitution when martial law is declared? Do we wait for that to happen? Can the military not challenge Obama to prove he is eligible? Is there even any proper authority for LTC Lakin’s court-martial to proceed?

Reply to  Watching Closely
Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:46 AM

Watching Closely, no one is expecting you personally to restore the nation from the coup d’état it has suffered at the hands of this proxy of Communism and Is|am. But the courts and the Congress have failed us, so we must expect the Joint Chiefs of Staff to oust the unlawful usurper-in-chief, just as the Honduran military did with ex-Pres. Manuel Zelaya when he started meddling with the Constitution in re the term limits of his own office.

Only the JCS have the power and the authority to stand down al’Obama and the forty thieves (aka czars). AG Eric Holder and the U.S. Attorneys, the DOJ, the FBI, DHS, ATF, IRS, and the National Guard activated by federal order, each have the power to intimidate and coerce any group of civilians. Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Kent State all shout to dissidents, “We’ve done it before, and we’ll do it again if you don’t stay in line!”

Only the JCS have the armor to show the hand to the ACLU, CAIR, the Nation of Is|am and the New Black Panther Party, the mob and the Chicago machine, the SEIU and the DNC thugs, the Mus|im Brotherhood and Hezbollah, and all the other petty assassins that don’t like their place in the law and order scheme of things.

LTC Dr. Terry Lakin was to be the flight surgeon for Army Gen. George Casey’s entourage in Afghanistan. That means that the JCS know all about LTC Lakin’s reason for challenging the chain of command. For all the hostility being outwardly shown to LTC Lakin, I think he has an ace in the hole. His court-martial could eventually be kicked upstairs to the JCS, and who would challenge the Joint Chiefs if they should order discovery of Mr. Obama’s credentials?

Harry H
Reply to  Watching Closely
Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 PM

“Watching Closely” seems to think that silence by the militaryin the face of Obama’s ineligibility will avoid “the moral dilemma that would ensue if good order and discipline were allowed to disintegrate,” but good order and discipline have long since left the building with the fraudulent election of Obama and the dereliction of duty by Congress in failing to qualify the president-elect. The silence of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has been an aid and comfort to the domestic enemies of the U.S.A.

Long, long ago the JCS should have simply gone to Obama and asked him to establish as a verifiable fact that he is eligible to be their Commander-in-Chief. That would have ended the parade of our naked emperor without the turmoil that we now see and will see more of in the body politic, a turmoil caused by the malignant tumor of Obama’ ineligibility. The JCS have been complicit in unconstitutional governance and now have NO legitimate authority to order anyone to do anything. Is that “good order and discipline”?

Bob1943
Reply to  Watching Closely
Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:49 PM

Watching Closely……

I don’t believe the ballot box is going to solve the problem of the usurpation of the presidency. Impeachment isn’t going to happen, because a two-thirds majority of the Senate must vote in favor of impeachment for it to actually remove Obama from office. Impeachment, even if it did happen, would mean everything Obama has done up to that time remains in place. If Obama is defeated at the ballot box it 2012 it would mean a criminal and his minions and enablers who stole the presidency with an ineligible candidate would all get off with zero punishment to live the rest of their sorry lives on the taxpayers money, lots of taxpayer money. It would also mean the lifetime SCOTUS appointments would remain, as would everything illegally signed by Obama. That cannot be allowed to happen. To reward those involved in the biggest fraud/charade in the history of America for their part in the biggest scam ever cannot be allowed………..if it takes the military to force Obama’s hand on his eligibility, then so be it….let’s get it done NOW.

Watching Closely
Reply to  Watching Closely
Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:50 PM

Mrs. Rondeau et al, I have been toiling over this issue since Mr. Obama’s election. Believe me I am not the only one. Many here have commented that the JCS should be doing something, and I whole heartedly agree. Unless very senior people in the military make the first move, people at my level have absolutely no cover. Because of the military’s structure, a move against Obama has to start at the top. Under the UCMJ military folks are not allowed to speak ill about the president, congress, etc. High ranking folks like the JCS can command attention in the media and have the ear of congress. The average officer may be inclined to fall on their sword over this issue, but few will be willing to give their all if there appears to be no chance of success. The fact that this has not progressed through the federal courts more than sends the message to lowly folks like myself that it would be a suicide mission. The November 2nd elections are of extreme importance to the survival of our nation. We must as citizens hold the new congress to investigating the eligibility issue. It is the Constitutional duty of the Senate in particular to do so. They have so far failed in that duty.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Sir, we appreciate your energies and efforts in this regard. The constitutional crisis in which we are embroiled is serious indeed. Is there another soldier who would be willing to stop following orders and challenge the actual AUTHORITY of the convening officers to even hold the court martial? If they cannot show that the commander-in-chief is legitimate, then there is no authority to proceed. Additionally, all courts-martial held since January 2009 would be invalidated. If there is one good man or woman who will proceed along those lines, then the top brass will have nowhere to turn. There is nothing to lose if there is no convening authority, nor the U.S. Constitution. Perhaps the corruption at the top is so bad that they are part of the problem. It would seem so at this point. Your point about the Senate or House investigating Obama’s eligibility is valid also.

I guess this sounds like I’m making excuses. I am certainly open to ideas from other contributors.

Harry H
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:10 PM

(1) Undeniably, there are widespread doubts about Bararck Obama’s qualification for the office he holds.

(2) It is unacceptable for the most powerful position in the world to be held by someone whose eligibility for that office is questionable.

(3) The U.S. Congress should investigate the questions and evidence pertaining to Obama’s qualifications for the presidency and should definitively ascertain the truth.

Robert Laity
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:48 AM

“No bill of Attainder….shall be passed” (Art.1,Sec.9,USConst)

No right secured by the Constitution shall be abrogated by rulemaking or legislation (Miranda v. Arizona)

Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void (Marbury v. Madison)

Tim
Monday, September 20, 2010 11:55 PM

DOJ was caught “untruthful!”

Proof: New Records Show DOJ Lied About New Black Panther Dismissal

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/proof-new-records-show-doj-lied-about-new-black-panther-dismissal/

Fukino etc. in Hawaii should be next!

michaelsr
Monday, September 20, 2010 7:07 PM

So, do you suppose that LTC Lakin’s attorney will actually stand up in court and say, “OK, from where does the authority flow into this court-martial hearing room?” Much as I would love to see it done, I’ll believe it when I’ve read that it happened.

Thank you, Sharon, for a great interview and you, LCDR Fitzpatrick, for your continuing efforts to enlighten all of us.

kittycat
Monday, September 20, 2010 6:40 PM

I don’t know where to put this link, and I have lost Sharon’s e-mail since my ISP changed e-mail places. It’s still the same e-mail address, Sharon, so just send me a test of something, please.

Y’all need to go to this place: http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/round-pegs-in-square-holes/#comments

Please read ladyforests’ recap on what she has found out. This leaves open lots of questions needing answers from the apparent BO “birth announcement.”
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: You may send me a message at editor@thepostemail.com. The blog you mentioned is very good.

Obama Researcher
Monday, September 20, 2010 5:55 PM

The problem is that the founders of our country did not want a standing army to last for generations of time. Thus the military has become corrupted and too powerful. We need to go back to zero military unless involved in a war of protection here in America. Not having standing armies all around the entire world.

If the military were disbanded and then much later reorganized the new military will be interested in doing its job instead of being full of corruption.

Tom the veteran
Monday, September 20, 2010 4:34 PM

Are Lt. Col. Lakin and his legal staff aware of this article? They need to know that they should challenge the court by asking, “By whose authority are you proceeding with this court martial?”

For God and Country

Harry H
Monday, September 20, 2010 11:52 AM

Since we do not have a legal President, it seems to me that Amendment 20, Section 3 of the Constitution is operative. If Obama is not qualified for office, he is actually still just a president-elect, not a bona fide president. Therefore, Congress can still exercise its authority to qualify a president-elect. This could begin today with a congressional hearing, but it is more likely to begin after Nov. 2 and if not then it should begin in January–before our fake president gives another State of the Union speech.

“After a congressional committee finds that president-elect Obama is not eligible, Congress passes a joint resolution saying that Obama suffers from a constitutional disability for office in that he does not qualify for the office and that therefore Section 3 of Amendment XX is hereby invoked.

Amend. 20, Section 3 states ” . . . OR [emphasis added because that “or” is key] if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President . . . until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

Clearly the Framers foresaw the possibility of removing an unqualified President after he had been elected. And it does not require impeachment and a trial. The standard argument that since Obama won the election we have to live with it is false. Either now, after Nov. 2, or in January Congress should determine once and for all two things:

1. Was Barack Obama born a citizen of the United States?

2. Is Barack Obama a natural born Citizen as that term was used in the Constitution? (In answering this Congress may request an opinion from the Supreme Court, sans those members appointed by Obama.)

sk1951
Reply to  Harry H
Monday, September 20, 2010 4:02 PM

How does that cover up all the lies to congress about his paper work?

RacerJim
Monday, September 20, 2010 11:39 AM

Just as an “FYI”: my deceased father was a witness to the WWII Courts Martial and execution of Private Eddie Slovik…as far as I know still the only member of the U.S military executed for desertion.

thinkwell
Monday, September 20, 2010 11:20 AM

Thank you, Mrs. Rondeau and Commander Fitzpatrick, for publicizing this vital information that every American should know. The mainstream media have been completely eclipsed by the grass roots patriot news providers and The Post & Email is among the best of those.

I give a little wish every day for Obama’s continued safety and good health. When he goes down, and he will, it must be strictly by the rule of law. That is the best outcome to help regenerate our country under the protection of a functioning Constitution.

That stated, I would not be surprised at all, if the true facts come out, that Obama be found guilty of high treason fully deserving of the maximum penalty, i.e. death. If so, may the full course of justice be appropriately served as a warning to other would-be usurpers and scofflaws and as an unmistakable signal of the resolve and resilience of the American people.

A little healthy fear in the hearts of all politicians would be a great boon for the country. It would help them keep in mind that it is they who work for us, temporarily called upon to serve the greater good in a position of trust, and, as such, should fully expect to be held to a higher, rather than lower standard of behavior (as is so common now).

George Miller
Monday, September 20, 2010 10:18 AM

After nearly two years, It is clear that our public servants and military are not up to the task.

In November, we have elections– that is how we solve such problems in the USA. Unfortunately, we were not able to nominate a full slate of patriots to run to do that, but there are enough to make a difference and start taking action. This may be the most important election ever and the last chance to at least begin to right things.

It’s comical that we criticize the military for not taking action, when they clearly don’t have the backing of the civilan authorities, which in turn don’t have the massive backing of the People, to act against the apparent usurper.

A nation gets the leaders that it deserves. Will we show that we deserve real, principled, effective leaders? Not so far.

Let’s show our military that we DO support them and show them what we want. While Obama isn’t running this year, a massive repudiation of his supporters would send a very strong message. Remember November.

NUTN2SAY
Monday, September 20, 2010 9:55 AM

FOR ALL THOSE INTERESTED! TRY THIS LINK AND IT SHOULD TAKE YOU TO AN ONLINE 1896 COPY OF THIS BOOK (IF IT DOESN’T WORK TRY HOLDING DOWN THE “CTRL” BUTTON THEN RIGHT CLICK…..http://books.google.com/books?id=bEsNAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=MILITARY+LAW+AND+PRECEDENTS&hl=en&ei=5XOXTOyVMcKB8gbS3vGRDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Toria
Monday, September 20, 2010 9:26 AM

Very interesting reading for military and non military alike. We are suppose to learn from history or history will keep repeating itself. We have within our means, scholars that are proficient in various fields. Therefore, there is no excuse to lack instruction nor knowledge, to comprehend the most complex of matters, unless you hire your friends that are not qualified to advise a correct course of action. Often known as ‘tell me what I want to hear’, not what is. We are experiencing a level whereby right and wrong are challenged, truth and fiction become confused and those that should be held to a higher standard do not walk their talk, actions and words, mean what they say and say what they mean. Most people do not know where the phrase, half cocked came from, unless you understand the hammer of a weapon. A classic interview and comprehensive study. Thank you both for providing such vital information and a clear map in which to follow. Ignoring something does not make it go away, things not dealt with are still not dealt with. It is a mandatory responsibility for the two or three generations of this present time, to set a course and get this country back on the right path that our forefathers handed off to the next generation of natural born citizens, hence forth derived from our founding fathers and those that set foot on American soil in order to be born free from involuntary servitude. No taxation without representation.

Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM

Third and Final Installment of Pravda Obama Eligibility Story
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/09/third-and-final-installment-of-pravda.html

Dear Sam,

I have just posted the final part III of your article on the main page.
I believe it will be just as successful as the previous two parts.
Thank you very much for sharing this with us. We do hope that our publications of your work gave many people food for thought.
If you ever consider sending more of your articles to Pravda, we would be glad to consider them.

Kind regards,
Dmitry Sudakov
Pravda.Ru English editor

Monday, September 20, 2010 8:49 AM

“The Obama presidency is a disease,” “Article 2, Section 4” of the Constitution is the cure.

plain jane
Monday, September 20, 2010 8:21 AM

I want to thank you for all your tireless efforts. I hope you do not lose hope. There have been a lot of questions as to why no one is listening. Let’s see what happens after the elections. I know that there is criticism of the lack of attention to the eligiblity issue with the tea party and other conservative groups. I am going to try to play devil’s advocate just so we can believe, up to the elections, that the intention is not to make eligibility a political football, because it is unlikely you would be able to counter the propaganda, but that it will be addressed later. Look, we all know by now that there was a deal made with the establishment in the republican party before the election These guys are dropping like flys, except the biggest offender McCain. When you get some new blood in there let’s see what happens. At that point you could develop a new strategy. Right now it’s all about educating the people. Keep up the good work.

A pen
Monday, September 20, 2010 8:10 AM

Very good but Obama, being president, has ordered this book as a source for all law; http://books.google.com/books?id=dOK2isxaaqcC&lpg=PP1&dq=book%20of%20cheating&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

Monday, September 20, 2010 7:01 AM

Awesome stuff, Sharon and Commander Fitzpatrick! I hope someone is listening. Maj Gen Paul Vallely (retired) and a couple of others come to mind. Problem is- NONE OF THEM ARE REPRESENTATIVES, SENATORS, OR JUDGES! Tom Arnold.

jetstream
Monday, September 20, 2010 1:40 AM

Then anyone tried and convicted under courts martial after 12 noon January 20, 2009 has a valid reason for appeal to the civilian federal judicial system because the military court does not lawfully exist without a legitimate commander in chief.

Actually, since there is no military they are a civilian citizen. So don’t they have a claim against the military for violation of their constitutionally protected rights?

jetstream
Reply to  jetstream
Monday, September 20, 2010 1:45 AM

Wouldn’t many of the Leavenworth 10 be able to challenge their convictions?

sky
Reply to  jetstream
Monday, September 20, 2010 12:37 PM

send a copy of this to the james baker institute houston tx.