Update: Second response received from Editor of The Citizen of Tanzania

“IT’S AN ERROR”

by Sharon Rondeau

According to the BBC, the original settlers of Zanzibar, which comprises two islands off the east coast of Tanzania, were Africans, followed by Persians and Arabs.

(Jul. 15, 2010) — The following email was sent to the editor of The Citizen of Tanzania following publication of its article stating that Obama has “roots outside the country.”

From: Sharon Rondeau
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:49 PM
To: TheCitizen Editor
Subject: THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE

Thank you for responding to my question regarding Barack Obama in regard to your article of June 29, 2010.

My intent in writing to you was not to put you on the defensive at all, but rather, to ask how you obtained certain information about Obama and seemed to say that he was born in your part of the world.

It actually is not easy for us to research Obama’s life, because he has sealed his birth, school, college, state senate, and U.S. Senate records from public view. He has never revealed his original birth certificate, as I am sure you know. So we simply don’t know where he was born.

It would be interesting to know how you reached the conclusion that he was born in Hawaii? Have you seen any evidence of that? Have you seen an official birth record from Hawaii which states such?

I am not suggesting that he was born in Kenya at all, to which you alluded. I personally do not know where the man was born, and many of us are not sure that he knows, either. We are not racists for questioning the information he has put out about his life story, because there is no evidence to back up any of the statements he has made. He has even contradicted himself on occasion.

Something you stated in your article was quite startling: you said that one of Obama’s middle names is “Abdallah.” I am positive that not one American had ever heard or read that. Where did you learn that? To our knowledge, his name is “Barack Hussein Obama,” but there are reports that he was also known, and might still be known, as “Barry Soetoro.” There is much evidence to support these statements.

Again, if Obama were not so guarded about his past, we would not have so many questions.

The clause in our constitution which sets out presidential eligibility requires the president to be a “natural born Citizen.” This phrase is often misinterpreted, but there is much evidence that this means “born in the country to two citizen parents.” You yourself have stated that Obama’s father was from Kenya or somewhere in East Africa, and he never became an American citizen, so that alone disqualifies Obama using this definition. It really doesn’t matter where Obama was born. However, the controversy about his eligibility to serve has brought about what some deem to be a constitutional crisis. Therefore, the matter is extremely important to our national security, as you can imagine.

Despite the fact that America has put a man on the moon, we know nothing about the man who claims to be the U.S. president. He has never shown that he is eligible to serve and is obviously hiding something. You seem to know more about him than we do.

Thank you again.

Sharon Rondeau
Editor
The Post & Email, Inc.
www.thepostemail.com
editor@thepostemail.com

The following response was received this morning:

It’s an error
From:
TheCitizen Editor (letterstotheeditor@tz.nationmedia.com)
Sent: Thu 7/15/10 2:08 AM
To:
Sharon Rondeau

Sharon,

I am very sorry if my response sounded defensive. There’s absolutely no reason for us to be. As you rightly put it, you have every right to pursue your inquiry in your national interest. I just wish to point out that the Abdallah name was an erroenous addition by our writers. President Obama’s grandfather was Hussein Onyango Obama. He converted to Islam while stationed on the Island of Zanzibar in his service to British Empire during the War. We would be only too happy to receive whatever solid information you come across for publication in our pages.
Best regards,
Editor

On July 15, 2010, The Post & Email sent the following message to the editor of The Citizen:

From:  Sharon Rondeau
Sent:  Friday, July 16, 2010 2:14 AM
To:  TheCitizen Editor
Subject:  RE:  It’s an error

Sir, pursuant to your mention of possibly publishing our articles in your newspaper, I am pleased to grant you permission to repost in full at your site the following article about a lawsuit filed against Obama relative to the presidential eligibility issue: http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/06/21/a-one-on-one-personal-interview-with-commander-kerchner-regarding-his-eligibility-challenge-and-lawsuit-against-obama-and-congress/

This article is an interview with one of the plaintiffs who filed the suit. I have also interviewed his attorney. This should demonstrate how very serious our current situation is.

Earlier today, a reader sent in an article from another Tanzanian newspaper written in 2006 which seems to state that Obama was born in Kenya following a Google translation from Swahili. Do you happen to speak Swahili? If so, perhaps you could tell me if the translation is accurate. The story I wrote based on that article is here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/07/15/tanzanian-newspaper-declares-obama-born-in-kenya/

I’m sure you can now see why we in the United States have grave doubts about Obama’s truthfulness about his birthplace and background. Although Obama says he was born in Hawaii, there is no proof of that. With so many sources stating that he was born in Africa or Indonesia or some other foreign country as well as his failure to produce even a simple original birth record, we are led to believe that he occupies the office of president in violation of the United States Constitution.

I hope you will consider publishing the interview with CDR. Kerchner, who is a retired military Navy Commander working tirelessly to uncover the truth about the man who claims to be the president. There are also tens of millions of Americans who are aware of this crisis.

Sharon Rondeau
Editor
The Post & Email, Inc.
www.thepostemail.com

And the following response was received this morning:

Hopeless talk, really!
From:  TheCitizen Editor (letterstotheeditor@tz.nationmedia.com)
Sent:  Fri 7/16/10  2:46 AM
To:  Sharon Rondeau

Sharon,
Take it from me. That’s rubbish, really. A lot must have been lost in that Tanzania Daima newspaper report’s translation. I don’t believe the paper had any evidence or was trying to imply that President Obama was born in Kenya. Believe me, there was a lot of excitement in Kenya about Obama simply because of his father, who was a brilliant economist famously known for his self-destruction and acute arrogance that didn’t go down very well with the government of founding Kenyan President Jomo Kenyatta. You will perhaps be amused to learn that at the time, there were attempts to link the Obama family to Tanzania, with talk that his great grandmother was Tanzanian. There was also talk of a Ugandan connection. it’s this euphoria that many in the West have misread.  The attempt to identify with Obama was, to me, not any different from, say, the Irish claiming JFK, when he became President. I wouldn’t give even an inkling of a thought to that Tanzania Daima story. This is a tiny newspaper, which can’t even afford to send a reporter to investigate anything out of the City of Dar es Salaam.
Good day!
Editor

25 Responses to "Update: Second response received from Editor of The Citizen of Tanzania"

  1. AuntieMadder   Sunday, July 18, 2010 at 7:53 PM

    Once again we see that media and government officials in Africa want to claim Obama as African when talking to the home crowd, but claim he is American from birth when addressing Americans and discussing the eligibility issue.

    Yep. We’ve seen that a lot, haven’t we?

    The editor of The Citizen is obviously an admirer of Oilbama’s. He could now be lying to cover for Oilbama because he’s been told to do so. If protecting Oilbama was on the agenda of The Citizen, the article wouldn’t have been released with the incriminating statement about him. Lying about it now seems to be a decision made after the the article was read and commented upon by “birthers.” I think the Oilbama people, always tracking and searching the ‘Net to know what new piece of evidence we’ve discovered, found out after we did about the article in The Citizen, then contacted the editor of The Citizen and told him what to say to weasel out of it. A year ago, they would have told him to change the text as they did with the Ghana online newspaper. They know that we now save images of these articles as we find them, staying a step ahead of them, so that rewrites only make their case look weaker and nothing more.

  2. Birdy   Sunday, July 18, 2010 at 4:40 PM

    For what it’s worth, The Citizen is owned by Mwananchi Communications Ltd. which is owned by Nation Media Group which has a board of directors populated by Kenyans, Europeans, and Americans (http://www.nationmedia.com/board.html). Who knows what their political leanings are or what their ties to Obama may be.

  3. Birdy   Sunday, July 18, 2010 at 4:05 PM

    The article in The Citizen by Hawra Shamte and Salim Said states “For more than 200 years US citizen could not pick a president who has roots outside the country. This might have been the result of racism or belief that a person other than ‘original’ US citizen was capable of effectively leading the powerful nation and help it to maintain its values.”

    What did the authors mean by an original US citizen? Key to the point of their article is that Obama is the first President of the United States who is not an original citizen. They speculate that Americans may have previously believed that only an original citizen was capable of leading the country, but now they have changed that belief.

    The authors, Shamte and Said, must mean that Obama is the first person elected President who was not originally a citizen of the United States, but became one later in life. I see know other reasonable interpretation of their use of the term “‘original’ US citizen.”

    The unnamed Editor of The Citizen has stated that “President Obama was born in Hawaii. Isn’t that part of the US? To us in Africa, the increasing lies about Mr Obama’s birthplace are proof of the racism that is so ingrained in American society.” This is a political statement, not a factual statement and it does nothing to do address the use of the term “original US citizen” by the article’s authors.

    The Editor of The Citizen also states “What our writers in the story you refer to meant to highlight is Barack Obama’s ancestry.” But the writers state that “For more than 200 years US citizen could not pick a president who has roots outside the country. ” If they were talking about ancestry, then you would have to conclude that, in the last 200 years, no President had ancestors outside the United States. Obviously, this is false.

    One must conclude that the unnamed Editor of The Citizen is avoiding the issues brought up by the article and is instead covering for Obama. The Editor is obviously a supporter of Obama who will lie and evade in order to protect Obama and aid in his fraud against the United States and its citizens.

    Once again we see that media and government officials in Africa want to claim Obama as African when talking to the home crowd, but claim he is American from birth when addressing Americans and discussing the eligibility issue.

  4. StLucie   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 10:55 PM

    Perhaps sending the March 25, 2010 Hansard would light a fire under them. Mr. James Orengo,
    Mr. Orengo is the Minister of Lands.

    Hansard 25.03.10 pg. 31 around line 15

    http://www.parliament.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91&Itemid=84

    Mr. Orengo states “how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?”

  5. 4score   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 8:27 PM

    It seemed to me tjhat Ireland was stating that JFK ancestors were from there … not JFK. The African newspaper guy has his relationships messed up.

  6. guy4013   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM

    The Citizen editor calls Obama’s father a “Great Economist”.

    That’s just to funny to describe any Marxist and especially a “Great Economist” who committed suicide legless by Auto. His last and greatest attempt.

    The Tanzania Daima describes the Kenya culture as ” In most of our tribal cultures, a child belongs to the father”

    Just as in Natural Law in the USA, the son inherits his father’s citizenship and name and rights.

    Seems like Kenya and USA law have Descent from the “father”.

    Obama born a British/Kenya citizen by Natural Law and the blood of his Kenya father and never a 100% AMERICAN NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN.

  7. Bob1943   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 12:09 PM

    Yes, perhaps not in it’s entirety, but certainly enough to know he’s not eligible to be president.

    Toward the end of the presdential campaign Hillary briefly brought up Obama’s eligibility, but was quickly shut down.

    Job offer, threats…or both?

  8. Joe   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    Sharon, I would like to request that you contact the biggest Kenyan newspaper and ask them or even better let’s run an ad in their paper asking for anyone with information to step forward.

  9. Chance   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 9:52 AM

    Great letter. Since they responded, maybe you could of said “If O is found not to be eligible for potus, he could be hung for treason” so better we find out now. Maybe that will scare them enough to “help out” for his own good!!!

  10. KBB   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 3:01 AM

    I often think of Malia and Sasha, also, and how ashamed they will feel one day about both parents. It will be a sad day for them when they are old enough to realize what BO and MO both have done – they may already be figuring it out. Surely, they must hear other kids talk. Very sad that they as innocents must go through it.

  11. Betty Merry\\\\\\   Friday, July 16, 2010 at 2:32 AM

    Do you think Nancy Pelosi knows who Obama is? And the Clintons? And the Bushes? And Brezinski? And Rockerfeller? And Soros? And Strong? And Ayers? And McCain? And Carter? And Odinga?

  12. 12thGenerationAMERICAN   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 10:27 PM

    Sharon:

    It would be interesting to hear the editor’s comments on the Lucas Smith Kenyan birth certificate?!?!!?

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109113

  13. Birdy   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 3:14 PM

    It’s interesting that when they are talking to an audience in Africa, the media and government officials in Africa like to say that Obama is African. But when someone questions these statements from the POTUS eligibility angle, they respond with “born in Hawaii” and not African. However, they never go back on the record in their publications or in their speeches to their government assemblies and correct the record to say that they were mistaken and Obama is not African. If Obama is not African, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Africa, then they can’t make their point about an African successfully achieving one of the most powerful leadership positions in the world.

    These African officials want to have it both ways. Claim African birth to tout African success and progress. Claim US birth to protect Obama.

  14. rxsid   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    “Perhaps the statements of the Kenyan grandmother about being present at the birth of Obama would be of interest to them.”

    Or, perhaps of interest to them for a follow-up, would be the statements of the Kenyan government officials referring to (essentially) his Kenyan birth.

  15. AuntieMadder   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 2:49 PM

    I think the Obots got to The Citizen after P&E News posted the story yesterday (or was it the day before?). That’s why he was defensive in his first response(s). He was either alerted by the Obots that “crazy conspiracy theorist people” would descend on his paper or he was “advised” on how to answer and what facts are to printed in the future. Because there’s been no retraction or edits to the article, it’s most likely the former.

    Anyway, because Mrs Rondeau’s email message to him was polite, tactful, and was asking because she honestly doesn’t know (rather than asking to set a “gotcha!” trap), he dropped his defenses and responded in kind. And since he’s suddenly discovered that he knows less about Oilbama than he thought he had, being as this latest was news to him, he has even less reason to be suspicious of Mrs Rondeau’s intentions.

    Another reason I think the Obots got to The Citizen is because they’re there in force today, posting comments. Obviously paid to troll the ‘Net and post their Oilbama-defending comments, they’re beating up a single, truth-telling woman on the most recent two pages of comments. I’m going back there to see if I can come to her aid and I’d appreciate it if others would join me as it’s only a matter of time until I tell them to go date themselves (keeping it G-rated here) and get booted from commenting. (I have a low tolerance for BS.)

  16. A pen   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    I have to agree with you on what those children will eventually face, that their parents are frauds and liars. Never ever lie to a child.

  17. RJ   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM

    Obama says …

    Kenya My Country, Tussker My Beer !

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/34220508/Kenya-My-Country-Tussker-My-Beer-The-Elephant-in-the-Oval-Office-Wash-Times-Natl-Wkly-20100712-pg-5

    The above link is to a terrific ad running in this weeks Washington Times National Weekly edition. This one nails Mr. O.

    RJ

  18. jtx   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 12:47 PM

    It probably WAS news but I think now we see him trying to back away from some of the assertions – that seems typical of those who idolize a con man and don’t want to be splashed with the stupidity paint when he comes crashing down from his lofty perch.

  19. Tim   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM

    Their media is as bad as ours, but at least they acknowledge their errors.

  20. James   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 12:05 PM

    I heard somewhere that “Abdallah” might have been a prayer name given to Obama at the time of his birth in Kenya but wasn’t officially part of his name. There was story on African Press of a prayer minister who apparently had blessed Obama at the time of his birth and fled to England with Obama’s Kenyan BC. While I’m suspect to believe anything African Press has to say, it is possible that Obama could have received a blessing at the time of his birth and was given some type of prayer name.

  21. TexomaEd   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    Good work Sharon. Sounds like his newspaper is open to publishing information regarding Obama. It would be interesting to see if they would take you up on that offer. Perhaps the statements of the Kenyan grandmother about being present at the birth of Obama would be of interest to them.

  22. James   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 11:25 AM

    Are you really going to swallow that one, Sharon?
    —————–
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: The Post & Email will never stop looking for the truth.

  23. Neil Turner   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 10:27 AM

    If they’re looking for some ‘solid information’, then I suggest that you send them a link to the American Grand Jury ‘Presentments’ of January 18, 2010.

    It has all the solid information and evidence they might need to make an earth-shaking world-wide expose of the fact that all Governments of the world are dealing with a Usurper of the American presidency, and all agreements and treaties made with us may soon become Null and Void.

    http://americangrandjury.org/public/super_jury/jan18_presentments.pdf

    P.S. You might just include Lt Col Terry Lakin’s latest video concerning his proposed Court Martial – that will blow Obama’s Commander in Chief-ship apart:
    http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/video1.html

  24. ImRubberYoureGlue   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 9:30 AM

    The complete lack of character that it takes for BHO to hide behind the race card and pretend he’s some kind of victim rather than let the world know that *ahem* ‘Birthers’ are 100% correct is actually kind of comical…but…I do feel horrible for Malia and Sasha that their parents are such pathetic losers.

    That said, I cannot wait to one day expose the biggest, most criminal and racist baby we’ve ever had in the White House when the statute of limitations on his vitals records is up. And that WILL happen.

  25. Tom the veteran   Thursday, July 15, 2010 at 9:09 AM

    Excellent probing letter Sharon! Too bad the Editor of TheCitizen chose to simply ignore those probes, or was it avoidance? I would say that his silence was deafening!
    —————-
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: I think what I conveyed might have been news to him.

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