Update: Kenyan Parliament again removes March 25, 2010 Minutes declaring Obama born in Kenya

DOCUMENT CONTAINS BOLDEST STATEMENT YET CLAIMING THAT OBAMA IS KENYAN-BORN

by Sharon Rondeau

Obama's "home country"?

(Apr. 21, 2010) — The March 25, 2010 “Hansard,” or Minutes of the Kenyan Parliament, has again disappeared from its website.  The document contained a clear and unequivocal statement that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and is consequently not a “native American.”

However, Hansards from March 24 and 30, 2010 are still available and presumably all others from this year.  This is the second time this document has been removed from the Parliament’s website.

The same document was unavailable for several hours on April 16 and then  restored as previously reported, until today.

The text of the statement made by Kenya’s Minister of Lands, James Orengo,  appears in the middle of page 31 of the March 25 Hansard and reads as follows:

If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?” (emphasis added by The Post & Email)

The Parliament’s website was updated on April 15, when the governing body announced its adjournment for two months. At that time, all Hansards from 2008 were removed, which included the November 5, 2008 Hansard in which many statements referring to Obama’s purported Kenyan origins were recorded.

A reader of The Post & Email found a link to the March 25, 2010 Hansard which still contains the statement on page 31 that Obama was not born in the United States, but in Kenya.

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55 Responses to Update: Kenyan Parliament again removes March 25, 2010 Minutes declaring Obama born in Kenya

  1. Bob1943

    Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM

    Yep, the link still works:

    http://www.parliament.go.ke/parliament/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=24&Itemid;=

    I saved the entire 69 pages this time, also have all 69 pages printed out.

  2. David Emery

    Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM

    As of today (April 22, 2010), this link will still fetch the correct PDF file for the March 25 hansard (at least it works for me):

    http://www.parliament.go.ke/parliament/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=24&Itemid=
    ——————-
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: Thank you very much for posting this. I have included it in an update to our article.

  3. SapphireSunday

    Thursday, April 22, 2010 at 9:14 AM

    It appears that the link is there now, but when you select it, it goes to FEBRUARY 25, not March. So are they going to pretend that they’re not suppressing it–it’s just a case of an error in the link?

    “Sorry. Parliament closed now. Must wait until they reconvene.”

    How amateurish can they get?

  4. sheikh yer Bu'Tay

    Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 6:57 PM

    Bob 1943,

    All of these codify the status of a NATIVE BORN CITIZEN via the Fourteenth Amendment. They define the status of a Native Citizen vs. the status of a Naturalized Citizen. NONE of these codifications define a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN (NBC). Why? Because the term NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is not a definition of citizenship status. It is an element of national security.

    The Founders had just finished spilling their blood to free themselves of being subjects to a foreign power. They wanted to make sure the Commander in Chief of the Military did not have conflicting loyalties, therefore, they included NATURAL BORN CITIZEN to the qualifications of President. The Founders used the definition found in de Vatel’s “The Law of Nations”. In “The Law of Nations” a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is defined as one who is born on the soil of two citizen parents. By natural law, the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN has no other loyalties other than the very soil (nation) they were born in, and no other inheritance than that found in their citizen parents. Thus no other country could lay claim to them. Once again, NBC is an element of national security, not citizenship status.

    This definition of de Vatel has been cited in no less than FIVE SUPREME COURT CASES to codify what a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is.

    The Post & Email has done an excellent job in following all the major court battles. They can guide you to web-sites that will further clarify what an NBC is. Sites like Mario Apuzzo and Leo Donofrio.

    Even if Obama was born in Hawaii like he says, by his own admissions he is not an NBC. His father was a British Subject, and so was BHO at birth. That makes him a dual citizen. He can never qualify as an NBC.

    Good Luck.

    The Sheikh

  5. AuntieMadder

    Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 6:52 PM

    I’m surprised it took ‘em this long to make it unavailable.

  6. Jim

    Wednesday, April 21, 2010 at 8:00 AM

    It looks like the Hansard for March 25th, 2010 has, once again, been removed. I searched the text of the Hansard for 3/24 and 3/30, but none of them contain the original text. Something tells me the records will continue to reappear only to disappear again.

  7. AuntieMadder

    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 11:50 PM

    Bill, I had bookmarked that site at least a year ago and had used it as a reference many times. That list of citizens was added only recently; I noticed it there about six weeks ago. It wasn’t there when I’d last visited it before then. At that time, the “site last updated” at the bottom of the each page was a January 2010 date and my guess is that’s when it was added.

    Further, I read the “about” of the site owner and he has the education and credentials to know better. I suspect he knows it’s BS but doesn’t care because the money he received is more important to him.

  8. TexomaEd

    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 10:59 PM

    The Obot incorrectly equates “a citizen of the US at birth” with “natural born citizen”. A natural born citizen is a citizen of the US at birth, but not all citizens of the US at birth are natural born citizens.

    If all citizens of the US at birth were natural born citizens, then Title 8 Section 1401 would say so — but it does not. The definition of natural born citizen is a person born in the US to two citizen parents, which is a person not subject to any foreign power at birth.

    A naturalized citizen is ineligible to be President because he/she was subject to a foreign power at birth. A dual citizen at birth was also subject to a foreign power at birth, and is therefore also ineligible. Obama was a dual citizen at birth by descent from his father, who was a British/Kenyan citizen.

  9. Steph

    Tuesday, April 20, 2010 at 5:50 PM

    Wow. Just… wow. Did they say that stuff accidentally, thinking no one would hear? Or… dare I say it… was it planted? I don’t think it was. The fact that they said it, then adjourned for two months, tells me they shot off their mouths, realized it, and bolted. Makes me grin to imagine the “Oh, fudge” looks on their faces when they realized it. Also makes me grin to know that even Kenya admits ‘Bummer is a fraud. Sounded to me like they were too excited over his presidency to realize what they were saying.

  10. Bill Cutting

    Monday, April 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM

    Bob 1943

    You are citing from a web site, http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

    The author of this site is ignorant and uninformed, and he does not even discuss the question of Barrack Obama’s citizenship.

    Read the Breckinridge Long article , It’s all about allegiance. One cannot be a natural born citizen of 2 countrys. Impossible…

  11. yo

    Monday, April 19, 2010 at 11:47 AM

    bob1943,

    I think I can answer that.

    If what that obot posted was true, there would have been no need for the senate to look into john maccain’s nbc status. It would have been obvious that he was an nbc if that poster’s points were true.
    But the left, and the nytimes, DEMANDED that they look into his nbc status.

  12. tminu

    Monday, April 19, 2010 at 7:00 AM

    e·vade (-vd)
    v. e·vad·ed, e·vad·ing, e·vades
    v.tr.
    1. To escape or avoid by cleverness or deceit: evade arrest.
    2.
    a. To avoid fulfilling, answering, or performing: evade responsibility. See Synonyms at escape.
    b. To fail to make payment of (taxes).
    3. To avoid giving a direct answer to.
    4. To baffle or elude: The accident evades explanation.
    v.intr.
    1. To practice evasion.
    2. To use cleverness or deceit in avoiding or escaping.

    It entails DECEIT, BAFFLING, ELUDING meaning they are fully aware that they are GUILTY of not enforcing the Constitution.
    But what is becoming apparent is that SCOTUS works for the CORPORATION of THE UNITED STATES, it does not work for it shareholders (us). The Act of 1871 changed everything…
    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-united-states-inc/
    Just when we figured out the requirements of what we thought was the Constitution, come to learn we’ve been deceived since 1871, that the original “organic” Constitution which we believes serves US, has been shredded long long ago, and replaced by a Corporate Constitution which serves itself, and we are but mere shareholders and their job is to continue to dupe us into believing we still have “unalienable rights” under the organic Constitution. Yep, that’s what politicians do, is blabla to the masses tell them what they want to hear, then go run their business at our expense, as they damn well please.
    PLEASE READ ABOUT UNITED STATES, INC. it will rock your world, the perception of who “we” are is answered, the disdain that representatives have for us is because they do not work for us, they work for the Corporation. It was meant to confuse people, who don’t understand about corporations and how mere capitalizations can alter meanings (even Fukino did this with her “natural-born American citizen” which is different wording and punctuation from the Constitution’s).
    We need a TOTALLY NEW APPROACH FOR LEGAL ACTION, because as shareholders, we cannot tell UNITED STATES, INC. how to run its business!!

  13. tminu

    Monday, April 19, 2010 at 6:50 AM

    “Invisible Empire”

  14. TexomaEd

    Monday, April 19, 2010 at 2:51 AM

    I agree. And it was Justice Thomas who brought the subject up when he said “And you don’t have to be born in the United States. So you never have to ask, answer that quest.”

    However, it would have REALLY been news if Justice Thomas had said “And you don’t have to be born in the United States and born to US citizen parents. So you never have to ask, answer that quest.”

  15. Bob1943

    Monday, April 19, 2010 at 1:43 AM

    Here is a post from an Obot at World Net Daily. It was posted in response to the video of Justice Thomas saying the Supreme Court was “evading” the eligibility issue. I think he is full of BS, but I wanted you guys to see this. According to this Obot is no surch thing as a “natural born citizen” per the U.S. Constitution and anchor babies or anyone else is good to go for president.

    This is what we are up against…comment anyone?

    Posted by Dorchester on Apr 18, 2010 22:24

    Thomas was not talking about Obama when he was chatting. (and it was a typo with stuck/struck – sorry)

    Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

    * Anyone born inside the United States (Obama if born in Hawaii)
    * Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
    * Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    * Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    * Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (Obama if born in Kenya)
    * A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born.
    Thomas and the other SCOTUS justices are well aware of this code of law.
    Case closed.

  16. tminu

    Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 5:52 PM

    Obama is merely a puppet of the New World Order thugs, who do not give one rip about the Constitution. In fact, they must do everything in their power to perpetuate Obama despite the fact that everyone knows he’s a fraud and ineligible, because if he is removed, it reverses everything towards their fascist slave state that they’ve dreamed of.
    They know we know, but they will not stop at anything to keep Obama there, that is why Michelle was so confident that he wasn’t going anywhere. The NWO does false flags, assassinations, runs wars, so threatening a few judges to not follow the law for fear of their lives, or the media (Lou Dobbs had bullets shot in his house) as well, is “no biggie”. The NWO only fears the sheer number and volume of patriots, and their persistence. They pick off individuals. NWO set up everything from Tonkin to McVeigh to the assassinations of MLK and Kennedys and 911, they are ruthless, they have audacity beyond the comprehension of most people.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrJQpgf6sE&feature=player_embedded
    The Envisible Empire

  17. Bill Cutting

    Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM

    Interersting comment posted in American Thinker. I am the same age as Obama and can barely remember I Spy, except watching reruns later on. The last episode was the spring of 68.

    Yet another Barrack Obama lie uncovered, who is this guy?

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/04/barack_obamas_missing_girlfrie.html
    —————————————————————————-

    Posted by: Stevemmn
    Apr 18, 10:11 AM

    Here is one other interesting tidbit:

    “In Dreams, Obama recalls his early days in Indonesia, when he began to notice “that Cosby never got the girl on I Spy.” Curiously, in his own book, he does not do much better.”

    I am a few years older than Obama and I barely remember I Spy. Obama couldn’t possibly have watched the show and had that observation in its first run when he was about 5 years old, and it has not had much of a syndication run since. That sounds much more like a comment Bill Ayers would have made.

  18. thinkwell

    Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 3:01 PM

    Although it seems more and more unlikely with each new bit of evidence uncovered, even if Obama were indeed born in Hawaii, he was born equally a citizen of the UK and the USA (this is the claim made on Obama’s own website). Then, even if allowing Obama sycophants’ absurd loose standards for natural born Citizenship, Obama, being born a dual citizen, must at once be equally a natural born Citizen of both these countries (UK and USA).

    However, even allowing for this absurd assumption, it strains all logic and credibility to assert that the Founders, who had just fought a bloody war of independence to cut the ties of influence and control from Great Britain, intended that a natural born citizen of Great Britain ever could become President. The Constitution’s NBC clause was added expressly to prevent this very occurrence, the very situation we are suffering under today with dual-citizen-born putative President Obama.

    Obama has trashed the Constitution and committed premeditated criminal fraud upon We the People. He is a usurper plain and simple. May justice soon be fully served upon him. (And may his legitimate successor uphold this justice and grant him no pardon.)

  19. Pete

    Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 6:47 AM

    You and I go way back. Back to before you had this site, when we both posted on other blogs. I felt obligated to give this news piece to you, since I know how you felt about Vattel and the law of Nations, and how it pertained to the Natural Born Citizen Clause. What Natural Born Citizen meant was defined, and as John Jay recommended, was known to George Washington……but did George Washington read Vatel?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/18/george-washington-racks-late-fees-nyc-library/

    Take a few moments, pat yourself on the back. Email me if you would like. Spread the word.

    Pete

  20. Joseph Maine

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 9:15 PM

    If they are not privy to the actual data on the real vital statistics of Obama, they are definitely aware that it is debatable, and quite possibly, the elected President can’t legally prove that he is a natural born citizen.

    This is where law is a shame. The Supreme Court may be using ideas such as mootness and standing just so they don’t have to worry about political backlash (something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW or Constitution) from enforcing article 2. I can understand it from a practicality point BUT if you swear to uphold the Constitution and the elected man swears to do the same, his violation of it seems really very contrary to what the Constitution stands for.

    Someone needs the smoking gun because the whole Obama entity is shading, just beginning with his birth, which he’ll tell no one about (maybe for good, self preserving, reason)

  21. Bob1943

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 8:46 PM

    Rob, watch the video again, I don’t believe Justice Thomas believes the eligibility issue is funny, in spite of the nervous laughter, I think he finds it frustrating.

  22. Rob

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 6:21 PM

    When Justice Thomas said “We’re evading that one” maybe he is talking about the SCOTUS,but if you had a case in front a lower court asking them to define what is a Natural Born Citizen is,the lower court will see that SCOTUS will even talk about it so why should they, you can say all the courts are playing hot potato will this issue,i call them all cowards for not standing up for the U.S Constitution. In the video Justice Thomas was laughing like it was so funny to him,but i don’t find it funny at all…

  23. dotdotcom

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 5:46 PM

    He said “we’re EVADING that one”, not avoiding. This may be because Orly had a hearing scheduled at Supreme Court that was erased from the docket just a day or two before it was scheduled. If they are EVADING it, that would make them complicit too, wouldn’t it?

  24. Vic Hern

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 3:33 PM

    Hey Rob,

    Can you tell us any more about context and reasons?
    Does he imply “all courts” or just SCOTUS?

  25. Rob

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 3:02 PM

    Found a video at youtube for (Justice Thomas: ‘The court is ‘avoiding’ the Natural Born Citizen question)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qEH-tKoXA

  26. Rob

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 2:56 PM

    Justice Thomas: ‘The court is ‘avoiding’ the Natural Born Citizen question
    (between the 1:13:28 hour mark and the 1:14:10 hour mark) at:
    http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/293017-1

  27. Bob1943

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 10:27 AM

    If you are going to be using quotes at the meeting that are from the Kenyan Paliament, don’t forget to use all of those from Nov.5th 2008, one day after our presidential election. Kenyan Parliament members were celebrating getting a Kenyan elected president of America, and there are some real eye openers there that we need to get out to as many people as possible.

    Good luck…..

  28. Carl Swensson

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 8:02 AM

    “Houston, we have a problem..,”

    Want to support action that will result in real change?

    Spreading this would be a good start..,

    Feeling a little down? All dressed up and nowhere to go?
    Try this on for size..,
    Come on down to Madisonville, TN on the 20th where we can show support for another Oath Keeper (in the truest sense of the words) Lt. Cmdr. Walter Fitzpatrick III (Ret) who was, on the 1st of April, arrested while performing a legal citizen’s arrest. Seems the local police and Sheriffs don’t really know that much about their own TN Constitution or the U.S. one either and we must be there to show them what it all means. Fitzpatrick has put his life, honor and fortune on the line for every one of you and now it’s time to honor that sacrifice by being there to show support as he has his day in court. I will be there just as I was when he was arrested. I will finish the job he started by affecting (again) the citizen’s arrest of these out of control politicians (copies of the criminal complaint and arrest warrant can be found here http://www.riseupforamerica.com/ltcmdrfitzpatrick.html ). The call went out then and only two (2) Oath Keepers showed up. Is this the kind of showing you guys, ahem, I’m also a member, are accustomed to?
    Let there be no doubt, they know we’re coming and only by having a large number of Patriots show up can we begin to affect the kind of meaningful change this country wants and needs. No less than the repatriation of America with its God given rights as expressed in the Constitution. That very document we all took an oath to uphold and defend.

    For those of you who are not Oath Keepers I suggest you take that oath and then join us at ground zero in this action to restore our Republic one county at a time. Come one, come all to the new Lexington/Concord.
    Be a leader, don’t follow the crowd, follow your heart and mind. This is a noble cause for a noble Patriot who refused to back down when he initially filed criminal charges of Treason against Barry Soetoro. He was denied the opportunity to present his evidence at this TN GJ thereby denying him his 5th Amendment rights. Those charges still stand and I have many other Patriots who are former military that have stepped forward and delivered their own Treason charges.
    I have no idea what to expect in terms of who will show but I will never let this Patriot down and both hope and pray that the leadership of the Oath Keepers and other organizations will see the need for you to show up. This is no drill or exercise, it is an educational tool for you to use in the ongoing quest to educate law enforcement in Monroe County, TN and then, the rest of the country.
    The 20th of April at 0900 in front of the Monroe County Court house.

    “They are being guided by their ethnic consideration and objectives. They are living in the past. If America was living in a situation where they feared
    ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion.” *
    (From the Kenya Nat’l Assembly Thursday March 25, 2010)

    How much are you willing take sitting down?

  29. AuntieMadder

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 2:47 AM

    I’m not sure, Durus, if by “exclusion” he wasn’t speaking of the Constitution or any of our laws, but just simply meant that white America doesn’t treat blacks and foreign borns as outsiders. Still, I’m not sure that he wasn’t speaking of that particular clause in the Constitution. If he was speaking of the Constitution, I’m positive that he believes it’s been excluded or nullified because that’s what Obamao told him.

  30. AuntieMadder

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 2:41 AM

    I grew used to “birther,” and have even grown fond of it lately. So, call me a “birther.” It doesn’t bother me at all. :)

  31. AuntieMadder

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 2:38 AM

    Bruce, I’ve heard/seen Cheney’s name brought up as responsible or accountable for this fraud squatting in the White House but never why. So, why Cheney? How is he involved and accountable?

    This is the first time I’ve seen Condie Rice implicated in this. So, again, why Rice? How is she involved and accountable?

    Thanks. :)

  32. AuntieMadder

    Saturday, April 17, 2010 at 2:35 AM

    Sure, there’s the fear, humiliation, loss of control and power stopping the libtards from admitting the truth about their Obamessiah. But mostly it’s because LIBERALS LIE. Plain and simple.

  33. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 10:08 PM

    A more excellent definition for “birther”, indeed!

  34. CeCe46

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:54 PM

    Yes, their take on the story was a disgrace. I emailed O’Reilly telling him just that!

  35. Bruce

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:39 PM

    As I am just returning from Africa, I can say with some assurance that Obama is not a big hit in Africa. And from the chatter there is is despised resoundingly.

  36. Bruce

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM

    So with this, when do you think the charges will be filed against the 110th congress as well as Dick Chaney, Ms. Rice and everyone else who confirmed him as president, and what would be the charges? Treason, sedition, fraud.

  37. Bob1943

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:20 PM

    I don’t think the liberals you speak of are that stupid. They realize Barry isn’t eligible to be president in more than one way. The problem is they were cheerleaders in getting Obama elected, even though many knew he wasn’t eligible even back then. Now it’s a mixtrue of fear, humilation at having been duped, and loss of the control and power they now have with liberals in control of Congress and the presidency. They believe they can continue to mock and ridicule the, “birthers”, and keep the whole charade from completely collapsing, at least until after the 2012 election..

    It’s our job to figure out a way to unleash the truth much sooner than that, preventing more damage to our nation and upholding what’s left of the Constitution.

    Be strong and the truth will prevail.

  38. mooseabout

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 6:36 PM

    Sad, the whole world knows Odumbo was born in Kenya, except for Congress and the Senate. This is the biggest conspiracy on the American people of all time and yet the liberals wouldn’t believe Odumbo even if HE told them he was born in Kenya! What has happened to THINKING ON YOUR OWN?

  39. ELmo

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 4:37 PM

    “Birther” :
    A patriot who holds dear every word of the Contract between the People and the Government that is the envy of the world and whose ratification heralded the “BIRTH” of this great nation – The Constitution of the United States of America.
    ELmo

  40. ObamaRelease YourRecords

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM

    As expected Bill O’Reilly & Megyn Kelly sellout their country and make FOOLS of themselves…Threw LTC. Lakin Under the Bus! Got ANY Journalists!?

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/as-expected-bill-oreilly-megyn-kelly.html
    ——————–
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: Yes, right here. Story coming up shortly.

  41. Kingskid

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 1:23 PM

    Great point. There obviously are forces intent on gouging out the natural born eligibility requirement from our Constitution. There are equally, or more determined, forces to keep that eligibility requirement front and center. We will not be silenced!

  42. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 12:46 PM

    Birther – A core group of people who are devoted to the support and defense of the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic; who will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; who will take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion.

    If the MSM, RINOS, CINOS, Liberals, Progressives and Statists want to label such a group of people as “birther”… then yeah, that patriotic distinction would surely beat the label of “USURPER”.

  43. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM

    I am not from Kenya.

    I am a proud 11th generation “natural born citizen” of the United States of America.

  44. 2discern

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 11:51 AM

    I sure appreciate the diligence of Sharon and the PE team. It beats the absolute ignorant statements made by O’Reilly last night with Megyn Kelly. They covered the Lt. Col. Larkin case and actually cynically depicted the hero as a loon. The handful of brave souls that took an oath to uphold the Constitution now stand on that oath in action, risking their job, income, and honor. I don’t take the “birther” name lightly; I rather prefer its patriotic distinction. It sure beats USURPER.

  45. Bob1943

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 11:17 AM

    Durus, you make a great point with this:

    Quote: ” would say that the start of this Constitution may be likened to what the Americans called the bell of Liberty. This is our bell of liberty and must ensure that we give Kenyans the best.”

    I too wish Kenya the best. The life there for most has been and still is hard. I wish them the best in everything they do, and may their new Constitution serve them well, and be respected.

    I also hope they will not be intimidated by Obama or his minions into saying anything about the birthplace of the putative president of America, Barack Hussine Obama Jr., that is not absolutely true.

    They are indeed stuck betwen Barack and a hard place.

  46. jim campbell

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 10:57 AM

    What in the world are we to make about the turn around in events?

  47. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 10:42 AM

    Arnold Schwarzenegger for President, any one?

    If America has done away with the only exclusion in the Constitution that protects the federal government from usurpation by a president who bears allegiance to a foreign sovereign, then why not facetiously allow Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for President?

    At least Arnold does possess a great love of America, unlike the sitting usurper.

    We either support and defend the only qualification for the office of President which protects the federal government from suffering the usurpation experienced when one who bears allegiance to a foreign sovereign attains that office, or we will lose that qualification for the office of President.

    It is that simple.

  48. P. Barnett

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 10:23 AM

    Shocking they put the March 24 Hansard back as it was.. the nov. 5, 2008 clearly shows some type of collusion between obama and one of the Kenyan government officials… I wonder what’s going on???
    Durus if you really are from Kenya, I pray for peace and health and love for your country. I also pray that Kenya takes a stand for truth against the fraud Obama.

    I worry for Kenya however with Raila Odinga having any power at all afer his followers murdered hundreds of his opposition to include burning Christians alive in a church.

  49. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 9:45 AM

    The answer given for that question:

    If America was living in a situation where they feared
    ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?

    is also important:

    It is because they did away with exclusion.

    Has America done away with the only exclusion found in the Constitution of the United States which protects the federal government from falling under the influence of one, who bears allegiance to a foreign sovereign, attaining the office of President and Commander-in-Chief of America’s Armed Forces?

    If so, we all need to redact the following qualification for the office of President from our personal copies of the Constitution:

    No person except a natural born Citizen … shall be eligible to the Office of President.

    Either redact it with a black marker or carefully cut out that qualification from your copy of the Constitution. Then, you can admire the hole in your copy of the Constitution, where the exclusion upon those who bear allegiance to a foreign sovereign from becoming President, once was.

    Without that exclusion, anyone of age 35 or older, who has also been a resident of the United States for 14 years, would be eligible to serve as President of the United States.

  50. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 9:21 AM

    On page 29 of the 25 Mar 2010 Hansard:

    Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we made a great achievement. This document, in other countries comes by way of revolution; by way of people shedding blood. We like citing the American Constitution, which came by struggle and a revolution. Even the French Revolution or in recent history, in South Africa, their Constitution was achieved through struggle and violence. But we are lucky here in Kenya that we are reaching this great moment, choosing the ballot rather than the bullet.

    A further search of that document on “America” yields some additional opinions on their view of America, such as on page 56:

    I would say that the start of this Constitution may be likened to what the Americans called the bell of Liberty. This is our bell of liberty and must ensure that we give Kenyans the best.

  51. Michelle

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 9:17 AM

    “a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?” how could the obots call this a rhetorical question-the sentence is as plain as day. They are calling the Kenyans then, idiots or liars. Which Obama is pretending he is potus? The son, the father being well dead. This on top of all the other Kenya documentation this is getting into the area of total farce.

  52. Durus

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 9:08 AM

    Obama Jr.’s father could have never had the opportunity to become President of America, so of course they are referring to Obama Jr., the sitting unconstitutionally illegal putative president/usurper of America.

  53. James Carter

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:59 AM

    “…, become the President of America?” removes any/all doubt whatsoever as to who the Kenyan Parliment means…Barack Hussein Obama Jr., aka Barack Hussein Obama Jr., aka Barry Obama, aka Barry Soetoro.

  54. James

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:48 AM

    Some Obots arguing that it was retorical question. But given all of the other references from Kenya we have seen which seem to indicate Obama was born there, I think I would disagree. I firmly believe they were referring to Barack Obama Jr. in this statement.

  55. Bob1943

    Friday, April 16, 2010 at 8:38 AM

    “The Kenyan Parliament has announced that it has just adjourned for two months.”

    Sounds like the Kenyan Paliament is heading for the hills while this dies down.

    Good to know the statement is still there however, hard to spin that statement as, “oh, we meant the presidents father.”

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