HI AG denies having information supporting Department of Health claim


by Sharon Rondeau

Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health

(Mar. 28, 2010) — The Post & Email is in receipt of a letter signed by Jill T. Nagamine, Deputy Attorney General of the State of Hawaii, which affirms her email early last month to our Editor-in-Chief, Mr. John Charlton, stating that her office will not or cannot corroborate any of the Department of Health’s public statements regarding the alleged birth of Barack Hussein Obama in Hawaii.

Ms. Nagamine’s March 19, 2010 formal letter was sent in response to the Hawaii Petition Campaign’s request for Hawaii officials to release Obama’s birth records and proof that he is a “natural born Citizen” as required for the office of President by Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

On July 27, 2009, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, issued a public statement which declared that Obama was “born in Hawai’i” and a “natural-born American citizen.”  She did not expound on how she arrived at her conclusions.  An earlier statement made on October 31, 2008 was less specific, claiming  only that Fukino had seen Obama’s vital records on file with her department.

The office of the attorney general has now contradicted in a formal letter the content of an email sent  by Janice Okubo, Public Information Officer at the Hawaii Department of Health,  in which she responded to a student researcher that the attorney general, Mark Bennett, “had reviewed and approved” Dr. Fukino’s July 27 statement:

From: Justin Riggs [email address redacted]
Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:03 PM
To: …janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov, [redacted other recipient]

…Ms. Okubo,

I am currently a masters degree candidate at …

The reason that I am contacting your organizations is that you are, as far as I can tell from my research, the only two groups that have openly stated that President Obama is a natural born citizen (one of the Article II, Section I qualifications for being President). I would like to document how you came to that conclusion: i.e. what the criteria is for your organization, what evidence the candidate provides, etc.  I thank you for your time, and look forward to receiving a response in the near future.


Justin W. Riggs

Janice Okubo responded later that day:

From: Okubo, Janice S.. <janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov>
Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM
To: Justin Riggs [email address redacted]…

Aloha Justin,

The statement was reviewed and approved by our Attorney General Mark Bennett. I am unable to provide further comment.

Janice Okubo
Communications Office
Hawaii State Department of Health…

Hawaii UIPA law requires that state officials and agencies must make information available to the public which is used to formulate public statements and opinions.  However, despite many requests for the “index data” relied upon to prepare Dr. Fukino’s statements, no information has been forthcoming from anyone at the Hawaii Department of Health.  The very limited index data released by Dr. Fukino on the Health Department’s website does not contain enough information to substantiate Fukino’s claim that Obama is a “natural-born American citizen.”

The Post & Email reported the initial email exchange between Ms. Nagamine and Mr. Charlton on February 2, 2010.

As the attorney general claims it has “no government documents pertaining to the preparation of the public statements made by Dr. Fukino in regard to vital records which pertain to Barack Hussein Obama II,” then either the attorney general is lying and breaking the law, or Dr. Fukino and Janice Okubo are.

Why are Fukino and Okubo the only ones talking?  And why does Fukino “strongly support” SB2937, which, although recommended to be “deferred” on March 16, 2010, is now headed towards passage to block requests made under the state’s own UIPA law?

To what lengths are Okubo and Fukino willing to go to protect Obama?  Why are they doing it, and what do they expect to gain from it?  What do they fear they will lose if they do not continue their charade?

There is no one else in Hawaii claiming that Obama was born there.  No other public official will confirm it.  The birthplace of past presidents has always been common knowledge which becomes part of our nation’s history and our children’s textbooks.  Why, then, the secrecy?  What is it that Obama is going to extraordinary lengths to hide?

Letter from HI Deputy Attorney General in response to the Hawaii Petition Campaign

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32 Responses to HI AG denies having information supporting Department of Health claim

  1. SapphireSunday

    Sunday, April 18, 2010 at 2:06 PM

    Would a communication from Obama to Fukino (or the DoH), giving permission to release/comment upon information in his files, itself be subject to UIPA law? In other words, would they have to release his permission slip?

    Has anyone requested whether or not his name (in all permutations) appears on the index to certificates of foreign birth?
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: I remember that Phil at The Right Side of Life (now on hiatus, at least) had put out a formal request to Fukino for any request for release of information on Obama’s part. I don’t believe he ever received a reply. Also, a blood relative of Obama’s who became a plaintiff on one of Orly’s cases requested it and was told it would take a year. I’m not sure what happened then. But a year — that’s preposterous.

  2. Lois

    Monday, April 5, 2010 at 3:05 PM

    If you right-click the letter and open it in a new tab or page you can get it to enlarge.


    Monday, April 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM

    Give a LIAR enough rope and they will hang themselves.

  4. Mary

    Monday, April 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM

    We, The USA, were all warned of this during the campaign in 2008, yet no gov’t official has the spine to STAND UP and “Protect The US CONSTITUTION.”
    Vote them all out in November and I mean Please guys, vote them ALL Out who are incumbents.


  5. MinutemanCDC_SC

    Thursday, April 1, 2010 at 10:43 PM

    The U.S. is no longer a nation under law regarding the de facto POTUS. He is a Constitutionally ineligible impostor, a usurious usurper, a counterfeit Commander-in-Chief, a treasonous trespasser, and an unlawful squatter in the White House. He is an outlaw and a criminal who defies the Constitution, laws, and codes of the United States.

    The problem here is that some people imagine that law and order is still operative against this despotic tyrant, who thinks that he is not accountable to anyone, at least for a while.

  6. sdk

    Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 1:43 AM

    it is probably the fact that he doesn’t have one. and providing one would ensue him getting deported back to his home, africa… kenya.

  7. Vexatious Requester

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 3:15 PM

    Nothing new here but a good primer on the issues with the COLB.

    I agree there is no official declaration by the DoH that the on-line COLB originated at the DoH and for the obvious reasons. The statement Okubo made to Politifact where she essentially retracts her “its a valid COLB” and changes it to “it looks identical to mine” and “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.” Really. Quite revealing, IMHO.

    It would nice for the DoH to either officially declare the veracity or formally deny “verification” so there is an official record of it. The DoH would have saved itself the general public a lot of trouble. Had the DoH been more forthcoming, the vexatious requester bill would have never been introduced.

    Also based on information obtained via a DoH UIPA request, there are no records of financial transactions between the DoH and the DNC or Democratic Party of HI and/or their authorized representatives. In short, neither the DNC nor the DPH obtained a certified copy of the COLB from the DoH and they likely relied on the on-line COLB as the basis of their respective Certificate of Nomination. Pelosi and/or her minions have never come within 100 miles of an authentic COLB.

    Other than the obvious, the big question is who applied the duct tape? One would think that the DoH has a legal and moral obligation to report the use of a fraudulent document to win election to the most powerful office in the free world.

  8. Bob1943

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 11:20 AM

    I believe you will find the answer to your question here:


    Lot’s of information on what the Hawaii Dept. of Health has said about the on-line copy of Obama’s supposed COLB.

  9. Vexatious Requester

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM

    It is a very good idea. I am not aware of anyone who made a direct request asking the DoH to validate/verify the veracity of the on-line COLB. A verification may not be treated as a UIPA request though. It may require filling out the COLB request form for verification purposes.

    With that said, I suspect the DoH will do one of two things:

    1) Deny the UIPA request for “verification” based on the “persons with a direct and tangible interest” clause contained in HRS 338-18.
    2) Point the requester to the instuctions and form for requesting verification (fee is $10.00 I believe) and then deny the verification based on the above, all while collecting and pocketing the fee.

    Regardless of the outcome, the request has merit as it would at least create a record that the DoH has refused to validate veracity of the on-line COLB.

    Someone who is not on the DoH vexatious requester list needs to submit the request. Normally I would do it, but I already know the outcome would not be in my favor.

  10. James

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 9:23 AM

    Is it possible to get all emails from DOH and AG that contain the word Obama in them?

  11. Mike

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 7:06 AM

    In response to Vexatious Requester comments:

    A reasonable course of action would be for the Hawaii DOH and the state of Hawaii to validate, or invalidate, a document that is portrayed as authentic, State of Hawaii document. If that document is fake or a forgery then they have a legal duty to address it. Without a doubt the DOLB from Daily KOS and Fact Check are fakes and forgeries. Mr. Sweeney’s analysis posted here and numerous other sources have verified that and validated that as a verifiable FACT. The documents portrayed on the internet are frauds. The SoH has an obligation to protect against fraud committed in its name. The SoH should officially validate and confirm what the bloggers and much of the public know knows – that the Daily KOS. FTS and Fact Check are acts of intential and criminal fraud.
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: This is a very good point. Perhaps anyone directing a request to the Department of Health under the UIPA law should ask for verification of the COLB which Obama, or whomever, posted on his campaign website. That’s all we need to know: is that document real or not?

  12. P. Barnett

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 2:37 AM

    Unfortunately, FOIA does not cover the office of the President or members of Congress.. this needs to change.. BTW, in a unjust U.S., the government doesn’t answer FOIAs and nothing happens to them for breaking their own laws. Hypocrisy..

    I have a FOIA that’s been out for over a year now with no documentation yet. In the situation with Allen, he requested the records of a non-citizen Barry Soetoro. They won’t give any info on Barry Soetoro eventhough FOIA is not supposed to cover non-citizens.. That should tell you that they do have records on a non-citizen Barry Soetoro, aka barack obama. This right here shows that Obama is ineligible being not only a British citizen but an Indonesian one as well.
    Great job on the Hawaii follow-up. Make the AG give you those common records and anything else required by HI law.

  13. Vexatious Requester

    Tuesday, March 30, 2010 at 12:38 AM

    The DoH is not now, not never, going to cooperate w/o permission from O’ or unless there is a court mandate that forces it to. The DoH and OIP is already following the SB 2937 as if it were law. The only positive that might be gained from this type of endeavor is that if the DoH purposely withholds legitimate records (emphasis on legitimate) it is legally obligated to release to the general public and if a lawsuit is pursued by an individual requester or a group comprised of individual requesters who have been denied access. I however think there is already overwhelming evidence against the HI DoH to support a lawsuit similar to the one filed in FL should someone decide to pursue it.

    As soon as people start sending requests for anything related to O’ or the Vital Records department and sends a follow-up email after the DoH ignores them or sends them an obfuscated answer, the DoH will complain to the OIP and the requester will be seared with the “vexatious” branding iron.

    I just do not see the value in overwhelming the DoH at this stage in the game; it will effectively kill what little cooperation some us of are still receiving on pending or open requests and it will just further fuel the LSM to report our efforts as a right wing lunatic fringe. The uncorroborated, unverified AP article on SB 2937 had something like 52,000 hits when you Goggled it and it certainly did not portray requesters in a positive light.

    I am all for holding the DoH accountable but we need a sensible approach. It has taken some of us several months to study the DoH and its laws, rules, regs, and record requirements and finely hone our requests so that they may eventually be answered or stand in a court of law. The proposed idea comes across as somewhat nefarious and it will only impede our progress toward uncovering the truth. Don’t think for a minute that the HI AG if faced with a lawsuit won’t use the coordinated effort to overwhelm the DoH to its advantage. All of the DoH UIPA requests are a matter of public record and can be requested by anyone. Surely the AG would have access to any and all requests during discovery.

    I ask as one of the likely 4-6 persons already identified by the DoH as vexatious, to please not just start sending requests for the sake of overwhelming the DoH. The DoH is not going to answer you and the OIP is not going to assist you if you complain about the response received or lack thereof.

  14. TexomaEd

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 10:45 PM

    His birth certificate cannot prove his eligibility, it can only further disprove it should it show a birth outside of the US. He is already not a natural born citizen because he was subject to a foreign power at birth, due to his British citizenship by descent from his father, Obama Senior.

  15. James

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 10:30 PM

    Post and Email should set up some type of gage counter to tally all of the UIPA and other requests sent to the Hawaii DOH. Each time a request is sent, the counter is incremented. That way we can see how many requests are being sent in and join in the action. The goal is have the gage counter reach 1000 or more requests. The more requests, the better. Assuming the Vex Bill passes, we have until July 2010 to continue our efforts. Once the bill becomes law, all hope of getting Hawaii DOH to coporate will be lost as the Hawaii DOH will then be allowed to legally ignore our requests and sanction us. Time is running out!

  16. James

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 8:39 PM

    Send a new reponse to the AG statng that want them to produce all public and government emails, memos, transcripts, meeting minutes, and other forms of written communication from the Hawaii DOH related to Barack Obama’s vital records. You have to be specific. You want to request all forms of written communication between 2 state departments.

  17. Vexatious Requester

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 8:32 PM

    In response to James: Please do not take offense, but I believe flooding the DoH is a terrible idea as it will only legitimize the bill the SoH legislature will likely pass. A few months ago long before this “vexatious requester” stuff was on the radar, I suggested a similar but more organized campaign to another concerned citizen who in turn counseled me on the idea’s potential detriments.

    I do however recommend that if anyone has a legitimate request for a record that the DoH is required to retain and disclose then by all means go for it.

    I have made 19 clear, concise, and legitimate requests and only five of them have netted any positive response.

    The DoH either ignores the request, or responds with lame excuses as to why it cannot provide response. The OIP ALWAYS sides with the DoH if a complaint is filed. I have yet to see a complaint where the OIP has reversed a DoH decision or compelled the DoH to comply with the request. In fact, I have submitted 5-6 UIPA complaints going back to November and have yet to receive an OIP disposition or opinion for any of them.

    Please note that NONE of my requests were for Obama’s personal records (index or otherwise) or for any information that the DoH is prohibited by law from disclosing.

    Unless Obummer authorizes it (fat chance), or a court order demands it (SCOTUS?), the DoH will not EVER release ANY information other than what it has already provided.

    AG Opinion – Nope. Obummer’s long form b/c – Nope. Financial transactions for the COLB or amendments – Nope. Supporting documents submitted for the original or amended COLB – Nope. Something as innocuous as the definitions and application “Date Filed By Registrar” and “Date Accepted By Registrar” – Nope. I can go on ad infitium….

    I am also one of the persons who participated in The P&E petition campaign. Just last Saturday, I received a letter from Republican HI State Senator Fred Hemmings essentially asking me to leave those poor folks at the DoH alone and to focus my efforts on fighting Obummer’s uber radical agenda.

    My point is unless a court demands O’ to “prove” his eligibility or rules on the definition of a NBC, the records (or lack thereof) the DoH is in the possession of will never see the light of day.

    I apologize for sounding so negative but this is a battle many of us have been engaged in for several months now. Other than the exposing the SoH and DoH for just how corrupt it is, we have no real tangible results for our efforts thus far.

    It ain’t for a lack of trying…..I will however continue to pursue my DoH and OIP requests until I am officially branded as “vexatious” and get more involved in a local/state capacity in the upcpming mid-term elections.

  18. James

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 7:45 PM

    Perhaps you might want to respond to AG and make sure that they understand that. We want everything – memos, emails, transcripts, meeting minutes. Anything that could even construed as a document.

  19. James

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM

    The letter refers to the term “documents”. I hope the AG understands that we are seeking any and all items that could be considered documents. This includes memos, emails, transcripts, etc. We want any and all forms of written communications from Hawaii DOH to AG regarding the vital records of Barack Obama.

  20. James

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 7:38 PM

    The Hawaii DOH is clearly breaking the law. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Since seeking verifiable proof that Obama is eligible to serve as POTUS is matter of national concern, Hawaii DOH’s mission should be to satisfy that concern. Henceforth, Hawaii DOH’s commitment to people of Hawaii is secondary to providing verifible proof that Obama is eligible. Henceforth, Hawaii DOH’s daily mission is no longer serving the people of Hawaii health needs but to provide to American verifible proof that are sitting POTUS is eligible to serve. Henceforth, it our duty to make sure that Hawaii DOH performs its primary daily mission.

  21. tminu

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 7:12 PM

    The bottom line is this: Obama obviously gave Hawaii officials official permission to disclose information from his birth certificate, or they could not have given information from his birth certificate, since they say are precluded from so-doing without official permission from Obama to do so.
    So they cannot now say that they cannot give out information from his birth certificate, since Obama already gave out official permission to disclose information from his birth certificate.

  22. Pat

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM

    Link the eligibility issue to the health care cases!

  23. tminu

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 5:25 PM

    Lingle’s office said Fukino’s information did NOT come from the BC, because Obama had precluded release of ANY information therefrom. But then did Obama give permission to release information from the vitals? So I called Lingle’s office, and they got testy and referred me to Fukino’s office, where I left a message if Obama had given her permission to disclose from his vitals. I also asked why the AG won’t corroborate her statement. Everyone is so evasive and nasty, ugh. Simple questions deserve simple direct answers!

  24. James

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 5:03 PM

    What is the status of the vex vital records law? If it passes, it will go into effect in July 2010. This leaves us with only 3 months to throw everything we can at Hawaii DOH. Between now and July 2010, we should set a goal of sending at least 1,000 valid UIPA request to the Hawaii DOH.

  25. Donna

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 3:16 PM

    i don’t believe he is a natural born citizen. I think those saying he is -”are bamboozling us!” I was always taught to respect my president but— respect is earned- It’s not given freely! Why is he spending so much money to keep his record private? We have seen all of our other presidents records.FOIA???? does that not apply to him also?????
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: The FOIA is what Mr. Ken Allen’s lawsuit is contending has not been upheld. He asked for Obama’s travel records and other things but was denied. More lawsuits based on a FOIA request being denied may be coming.

  26. ConcernedOne

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 2:11 PM

    Trying to post, yet again….but I have the same issue as Bob in not being able to enlarge any images…it just keeps loading.

  27. DixHistory

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 11:49 AM

    My thanks to all of you at the Post & Email for staying on top of this story.

    Loading the letter does for me same as what Bob1943 says.

    Dr. Fukino and the office of the attorney general should hold a news conference with as much fan fare as she first did to make known that Dr. Fukino or either the AG’s office was in error. The least that they can do.

    To allow it to stand as it is now known is of course what they wish to happen.


  28. scgator2001

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM

    We cannot answer what should be an easy question due to legal maneuvering which has spent over $1,000,000 to block law suites which demand Obama produce his birth certificate to prove he is eligible to be President. Is Obama a Manchurian?

    A sub question is do you think the US Government lies to citizens to hide the truth? The answer is of course they do, and they have lied to hide the truth in huge cases. This video shows one of those times that still has serious impact even today.


  29. Jim

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 10:47 AM

    Here’s a link to the letter. There you can enlarge it or save it.

  30. Bob1943

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 9:42 AM

    When I try to make the letter from the deputy attorney general larger to read it, my computer says “loading” and it never stops loading.

    Maybe it’s just my computer, but I’m wondering if something is wrong on your side?


  31. Hammer Down

    Monday, March 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM

    “Why, then, the secrecy?”
    B/C a Hawaiian birth certificate for BHO doesn’t exist.
    If it did exist we would have all seen it by now.

  32. anon

    Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM

    So…the AG isn’t saying that no government documents were used in the preparation of the “natural born” statement, rather the AG is saying the AG is not currently in possession of those documents.

    OK, so: 1) what documents did the AG use and what did the AG do with the documents? And, 2) who IS currently in possession of said documents (DoH?).
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: I read some time ago in the UIPA law that even if there are no documents, the state agency must create the documentation and make it available to the public if it was used in official business. It would seem that the attorney general would be aware of that part of the law. Therefore, his office’s statement to The Post & Email seems to indicate that he cannot produce any documentation because he was not consulted about Dr. Fukino’s public statement at all.

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