- Law Cases
by John Charlton
(Oct. 21, 2009) — Six days ago The Post & Email published the testimony of a citizen, who witnessed the C-Span cablecast of the Keyes vs. Obama 2004 Debates, in the second debate of which Obama conceded that he is not a natural born citizen. This cable cast occurred in April of 2005.
Today, a second witness has come forward, who saw and heard the same condemning comment made by Obama regarding his ‘Natural Born’ status. This witness viewed a clip of the exchange between Keyes and Obama that was posted on Youtube last Novemeber following the 2008 Presidential elections, sometime between and
This second corroborative testimony is very detailed, and The Post & Email publishes it without editing.
The video I saw on Youtube may or may not have been recorded by C-span. It was a year ago that I viewed it, but the image is still very clear in my mind. It was definitely from the second debate held on Oct 21, 2004. It did not take place back stage as some have reported. Both candidates were standing on the stage behind their respective podiums. The background was blue. Actually, when I first saw the Youtube video, my first thought was that the debate was held outside because all you could see beyond the candidates was what looked like a perfectly clear blue sky.
The clip was actually filmed from the side of the stage. Keyes was standing in the foreground behind his podium and Obama was beyond that on the far side of the stage. Even though they were still at their podiums as they were during the debate, the comment made by Keyes was almost as though it was an ‘aside’, definitely not in response to a question from the panel. He may have been breaking in at the end of one of Obama’s responses. I really could not say ‘when’ during the debate it occurred. But it was very casual-like.
Whoever filmed the clip was holding the camera low if they were standing on the stage. However they could have been standing off the stage to the side. The camera was situated so that it was in a line that intersected Keyes somewhere between his knees and waist, pointing about 15-30 degrees up and was far enough away to include the stage floor as well as the entirety of the candidates from their feet to well above their heads in the frame.
I know it was the second debate because this is the only debate with this background and candidates standing at podiums. The entire video only lasted 10-15 seconds if that. The thing I do not remember seeing was any logo, Cspan or ABC 7, which is prominent on every video I have seen of the debates. It might have been there, but I do not remember it. So it might have been a video recorded and posted by a private citizen and not a station segment.
As I said, it was very short. The entire clip just showed Keyes as he turned his head toward Obama saying, ‘Well, you’re not even a natural born citizen.’ Obama confidently responds, ‘That’s OK, I’m not running for President, I’m only running for the Senate.’ That was the end of the video. Very, very short.
The question is whether C-span has the clip. Cspan may have kept their cameras rolling the whole time regardless of a break in the debate if there was one. I do not know.