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WHY DO MANY “CONSERVATIVE” GROUPS AVOID THE ELIGIBILITY ISSUE?

January 3, 2011

Why won't well-known "conservative" groups such as Grassfire, The Heritage Society, Freedom Works, and Glenn Beck's 912 movement acknowledge the questions about Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve?

Dear Editor:

The following email invitation was forwarded to me.  Please see my response below.

From: “Grassfire Nation” <alert@grassfire.net>
To: Redacted
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2011 12:03:44 PM
Subject: A special invitation for you from Grassfire Nation

From the Desk of:  Steve Elliott, President, Grassfire Nation

Jan,

I don’t know about you, but I am eager to face the challenges of the New Year and the opportunity to work together with you to restore and rebuild our nation back to greatness!

An integral part of our action plan for 2011 includes our brand new Patriot Action Network — the largest and fastest growing conservative social action network in the nation!

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Through the Patriot Action Network you have the ease and freedom to network with fellow conservatives in Florida, or nationwide over key issues that are impacting you and your loved ones.

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We believe the Patriot Action Network has been created for a time such as this!

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My response to Mr. Elliott was as follows:

Dear Mr. Elliott:

It would be important to let you know I was formely in Grassfire Nation and some Tea Party groups, however all many in these type groups tried to silence me, & groups trying to unseat Obama. Since America has an illegal communist muslim usurper infiltrating our White House, this is “the” most dangerous issue America has ever faced.

You can’t flip a house on a fallen Republic being dismantled by an illegal alien. Although we must be vigil during elections, I am now hearing from reliable sources that Obama will see to it the “fix” is in on this election for 2012. A Chavez like regime of thugs will see to it he terrorizes America for another 4 years, & it will not matter what we do to stop him, except successfully unseating him.

There has been much talk about impeaching him, however to be impeached you must be a legal President to begin with. He will have to be unseated.

The silence from not only your group, but all of the Tea Party groups, has been shocking to say the least. And then to ignore the brave and courageous Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who has sacrified everything to protect & defend America, as required by all military personel under the Constitution was the last straw. This surfaced other problems with Patriot Movements, who were not trying to save this great American Patriot.

Our country has no more time for this nonsense, and the cheerleader with pom poms mentality. This will not save America, unseating Obama will.

Anything else is like putting a fresh coat of paint on a dirty surface. It just will not stick.

Therefore I must decline your invitation to once again join Grassfire Nation because this is not your ultimate goal, nor the Tea Parties.

UNSEATING OBAMA, THE ILLEGAL COMMUNIST MUSLIM USURPING JIHADIST IN OUR WHITE HOUSE IS THE ONLY ISSUE FOR TRUE PATRIOTS SO I WISH YOU THE BEST BUT I WILL NOT CONCENTRATE ON ANY OTHER ISSUE FOR 2011. FREE LT. COL. TERRY LAKIN, AND TRY OBAMA FOR HIGH CRIMES AND TREASON AGAINST
THE U.S., UNSEAT HIM, THEN IMPRISON HIM.

LT. COL. TERRY LAKIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT, AND OBAMA SHOULD BE IN LEAVENWORTH PRISON. THIS TYRANNY MUST STOP FOR 2011.

Jan

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gaetano
Friday, January 14, 2011 8:48 AM

Obama`s hiding of his records is all the proof anybody needs that he is not eligible. Case closed. What gives him the right to hide his records? If he has the right ,then all Americans should tell the IRS, the S/S, the Banks , the SCHOOLS, the POLICE, the STATES, etc. that our records are none of their damn business, and they should still have to give us what we want. Like a bank account, without a s/s number, or a drivers license, without showing any ID, or any thing that has to have a ID.How about medical records to go to school? This is a cover up, and make no mistake about it. Why? no one knows. But I do believe some time in the future , we will all know the real reason.SO, sit back and hope that the man in control of the roller coaster, will finally will turn of the electric so that we can get the hell of the sickening ride.

James G. Borden
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:47 AM

Barack Hussein Obama is a phony president, he is Muslim, he is a communist.
The issue for AMERICAN PATRIOTS’ MOVEMENT OF AMERICA is to keep pressing the issue and expose Obama as an illegal president.
There is physical proof in the form of a Birth Certificate that Obama was born in Kenya, Africa.
If anyone wants a copy please contact me at my email address below and I will send you an attachment of his real, long-form Birth Certificate.
I will also send you a copy of a letter I sent to the Governor of Hawaii.
This Birth Certificate has been circulated on the internet, but there are still plenty of people that haven’t seen it yet.
James G. Borden
Newsletter Editor
AMERICAN PATRIOTS’ MOVEMENT OF AMERICA
National Headquarters
Hilo, Hawaii
Email: jgborden96720@yahoo.com

Saturday, January 8, 2011 4:29 AM

I hate to harp on this issue, and I’m not sure this thread is all that active anymore, but if someone is in contact with ms. Dawald, could they please ask her to answer the two simple questions which have gone as yet unanswered, the answers to which I believe will prove illustrative of the central core of this editorial and resulting debate. they’re important:

Ms. Dawald,

1. When your website was called Resistnet, did you or did your moderators, et al, not repeatedly state that participants planning to attend least some of your functions were specifically ***disallowed**** from bringing or otherwise displaying ‘birther” signs and messages at those functions? Were there any functions that you helped organize in which such signs were encouraged?

2. Has your site ever officially condemned, even as political TV critics at least, Glenn Beck for mocking the Birthers, which he did for awhile relentlessly and, yes, even with glee? It seems to me that you cannot be silent on the issue and be anything other than a passive advocate of Beck’s mocking position. IMO, there is no neutral inactivity in this political/culture war.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: You could send these questions directly to her.

Reply to  G-Starz
Saturday, January 8, 2011 2:29 PM

Yeah, I could, but then the response is technically private, and i wouldn’t be comfortable sharing an e-mail. I was (and perhaps still am to some small extent) hoping for a public response – where it counts. IMO, questions like that have no value in private.

True Patriot
Friday, January 7, 2011 1:48 PM

And Commie Blaster.com

Thursday, January 6, 2011 3:30 PM

Here ‘the darla’ is, again.
Caught out in the light of truth it is always darla’s instinct to denounce a truthful observation as ‘offensive’ (to her) and ‘inaccurate’ (according to darla’s template).

I am put in mind, by the darla’s outburst, of an Email I received some months back (I still have it, so don’t call it ‘inaccurate’ ma’am) wherein the darla pandered thousands of her site members for donations to keep that Ning site open.

Maximum cost for said site ran about 39 dollars a month, but the darla never admitted that or even gave an amount…

And if several hundred people gave one to three dollars each, or if everyone gave something close to just a dollar…the question that rises is: where did the darla spend the surplus?
The site name ‘Resistnet’ seems to come to mind as being associated…

These things said; just on the surface there seems to be quite a lot of dishonesty in the darla, ranging from her politics to her pandering, and her persecution of those who out her as well as Jan has.

And while the darla managed to stand against the truth, for a time, with her support choir on Resistnet, (weren’t those the days, ma’am, when you could say: ‘your comment is offensive’, or, ‘you don’t make any sense’, or, ‘your comment is inaccurate’…and a whole host of loons would pounce on the object of your displeasure?) I just don’t see her doing so hot these days, in the face of the truth.
‘Tis my opinion that the darla is probably a fraud in more than one way, and that she has pretty much run her course on the internet.

Kinda like that scammer, Gerry Emery.
Sooner or later, all malicious frauds get outed…

Predictable quote from the darla:

Dear Jan,

We never ignored the Lakin case we did in fact send a few notices to our members to keep them posted and aware. Furthermore, we did not stop anyone from posting and relating information on the Lakin case at any time…there are many, many posts and information on the Lakin.

As far as eligibility, early on we promoted the Citizen Grand Jury’s, we recruited members to take part in the eligibility issue, we had many people involved in the case on eligibility on our past radio shows. We have posted a lot of information regarding this issue. What is your solution? Remove the usurper? Tell me how exactly you plan to do this?

Your letter is offensive and completely inaccurate!

Try knowing facts about our site and past involvement before you decide to bash us in the future.

Darla Dawald

National Director
http://www.PatriotActionNetwork.com
The official social network of Grassfire.com

Saska
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 11:57 AM

The Tea Party Patriots will allow discussion on their Google Groups (search for them on Google Groups), I post there often. Meckler, etc., the upper echelon of TPP, never acknowledges, but the posts are allowed. I just now posted a reference to this article!!

True Patriot
Reply to  Saska
Thursday, January 6, 2011 8:47 PM

Reply Tea Party Patriots is not one of the TP groups referenced. They have allowed comments on the subject of O’s ineligible status and about LTC Lakin, but Resist.net who now strangely has changed their name to this Patriot Action Network, treated me the same way so Dawald is inaccurate in her statements with this group. They have silenced many of us, and we have all dropped out.

This quick name change from Resist net to PatriotActionNetwork is suspect as Resist.net was not that old to begin with. Why all of a sudden the name change, and if they are claiming to be the official social network of Grassfire.com, are they illegally trading members private email addresses etc. There is nothing from the emails I get from Grassfire that mentions this new bunch calling themselves PatriotActionNetwork. This could possibly pose a legal problem if members do not want their emails exchanged without their permission.

Jan, the author of this letter was responding directly to Grassfire, for which Elliott did not reply. This is bad business. The letter was to him directly, as the email was from him and Grassfire. No mention of this other bunch?

Nothing in this letter eludes to Tea Party Patriots as they are entirely a different group, and I do not get from this letter there is any reference to TPP.

What I do get is that Dawald has jumped in with inaccurate statements. Resist.net blocked many from discussing the ineligiblity of Obama and I still have their warnings to me, and they removed my comments about it yet there was not anything offensive or bad language etc. Just addressing the question all Americans should be able to ask. Obama where is your B.C. and for this Dawald is offended? Revealing don’t you think?

Tuesday, January 4, 2011 8:02 PM

Dear Jan,

We never ignored the Lakin case we did in fact send a few notices to our members to keep them posted and aware. Furthermore, we did not stop anyone from posting and relating information on the Lakin case at any time…there are many, many posts and information on the Lakin.

As far as eligibility, early on we promoted the Citizen Grand Jury’s, we recruited members to take part in the eligibility issue, we had many people involved in the case on eligibility on our past radio shows. We have posted a lot of information regarding this issue. What is your solution? Remove the usurper? Tell me how exactly you plan to do this?

Your letter is offensive and completely inaccurate!

Try knowing facts about our site and past involvement before you decide to bash us in the future.

Darla Dawald

National Director
http://www.PatriotActionNetwork.com
The official social network of Grassfire.com
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Why is someone’s opinion offensive?

Reply to  Darla Dawald
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 8:36 AM

Ms. Dawald,

You state that you have been very active in the Birther issue in terms of getting information out, such as Lakin, etc, and while you have had posters making threads (and you have a topic area, though it is by no means linked prominently) I’d still like clarification on 2 things:

1. When your website was called Resistnet, did you or did your moderators, et al, not repeatedly state that participants at a least some of your functions were specifically ***disallowed**** to bring or otherwise display ‘birther” signs and messages at those functions? Were there any functions that you helped organize in which such signs were encouraged?

2. Has your site ever officially condemned, even as political TV critics at least, Glenn Beck for mocking the Birthers, which he did for awhile relentlessly and, yes, even with glee? It seems to me that you cannot be silent on the issue and be anything other than a passive advocate. IMO, there is no neutral inactivity in this political/culture war.

I’m looking forward to clarification on these points.

True Patriot
Reply to  Darla Dawald
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 10:54 AM

It should not be offensive to anyone who truly loves America and wants to save her. So Darla why do you find this letter offensive. It is accurate completely.

Our country is in serious danger and you are attacking the messenger, not the problem.

The letter was out of concern for our country, yet you say you find it offensive
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Yes, the email invitation which Jan received is a fact, not a proposition. People must be able to differentiate between facts and opinions. If Ms. Dawald disagrees with Jan’s response to the invitation, that is one thing. But the email solicitation is what it is.

True Patriot
Reply to  True Patriot
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 2:54 PM

It would also be important to note the letter was to Mr. Elliott, so what is Dawald doing?

Why is the response from her instead of directly to Mr. Elliott to whom it is addressed?

Mike
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:06 PM

Pelosi: We’d Have Passed ObamaCare Even If Everyone Was Happy With Their Health Coverage
http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-wed-have-passed-obamacare-even-if-everyone-was-happy-with-their-health-coverage/#idc-cover

MY GOD IT WAS NEVER ABOUT HEALTH CARE IT WAS ABOUT CONTROL…

These laws have NOTHING to do with helping anyone. Dingel did not make a mistake when he said “To control the people”

Here -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK62MQ_OIEI

It has ALWAYS been about control of the people, of the businesses, of the resources, etc etc etc.

That is what Totalitarians are all about. This is what these marxists are-Control Freaks. They know what is good for you so STFU!

Wendy
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:59 PM

Well now he claims to be president as he is just a FRAUD WITHIN..

LT. COL. TERRY LAKIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.He took the stand and did not back down from the Fraud ! over one million FRAUD paid attorneys compared to $15.00$20.00 for a vital long form birth certificate so, tell me he isn’t a fraud ask his grandma as she said siting by Mayo his 1/2 sister that she was in the delively room and watched her grandson Barack being born in mosbasso Kenya and she named the hospital. I saw the tape ! it was pulled fast at that……1/2 sister said “Grandma stop, Grandma said “No I will not stop his roots are here..1/2 said ” Grandma please stop America will find out and Barack will be imilegalible.. Grandma said. I don’t care ,I am proud of my grandson Barack..Grandma stop……….now grandma is dead ! well so said she was sick.Maybe, really dies before her time ,huh ?

OBAMA IS A DAM FRAUD WITHIN AND AMERICANS KNOWS IT TO !!! TREASON HIM IMPEACH HIM WHATEVER AS LONG AS HE SPENDS THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN A DARK DARK CELL 5X5..AND ALL WHO KNEW TO THAT HE WAS NOT BORN IN AMERICA OR HAWAII !

LTC Lakin or anyone else was stopped in court from showing the proff they had or to talk. And the media is nowhere to be found in telling that why ? LTC Lakin PRESIDENT I WILL CAMPAIGN OR HIM TO THE END OF THIS EARTH ! HE IS A HERO

LOOK HIM UP A SITE YOU CAN WRITE TO HIM. I THINK TEAM SARAH HAS IT THERE http://teamsarah.ning.com/ AS WELL AS OTHER SITES…… WE THE PEOPLE STAND WITH LTC Larkin

treason the FRAUD WITHIN OBAMA !

Tuesday, January 4, 2011 2:15 PM

Gary,

thanks and those are also good ideas, but I know yahoo does not allow live links. Including live links will only keep the post from getting on the board.

Also, i have found a disturbing pattern, but a solution built in: whenever I feel my posts are being censored by activist yahoo moderators, i post, “yahoo is censoring posts based on their own political biases. If so, the moderators should be fired immediately.”
Bingo. Suddenly everything i write gets on the board. Since I stated counting, this has happened 17 times in the last 2-3 weeks. It works. start posting and when your stuff doesn’t get up, see how quickly things turn around when you write that.

And yes, we must start filling this comments sections – flooding and overwhelming them. Really, let’s make this the internet version of a tea party in the middle of town, only about the Obama citizenship issue. We can overwhelm them easily if even a fraction of us take it seriously.

Thanks, Gary!

Oh, and click on my name – i think it works that way, here – for yet another site (ahem)

Reply to  G-Starz
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 3:21 PM

G-Starz,

Email me. My email address is at the top of my blog: giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com

I would like to get in touch.

Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:25 AM

Another idea is to write to your local TV and radio news stations…get a packet of info together for the various reporters and anchors. Educate them! Put the seeds of doubt in their minds about Obama. Write to management too!

Reply to  Gary W
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 8:45 AM

Some of us tried educating the media 2-3 years ago. it was hopeless, and Beck sealed our doom when he went giggly on the subject. Chris Matthews has opened it back up for us, but the media already knows it all. My own opinion is that it’s up to places like this and people like us on every mainstream comment section to grind the issue home. the other thing to do, IMO, is really salvo the newly elected tea party House reps demanding action or replacement in the next election cycle – that we have long memories and won’t forget.

The media is split apparently into 2 camps: those who support obama, and those who do not but are terrified of the unknown consequences of dealing with a usurper. Both want this issue to go away. but as we know, constitutionally, it cannot.

We need to do what the tea party people have done. We need to take it to the street. we’re succeeding already, with the help of governor Abercrombie, as Chris Matthews change of heart shows, and that’s fantastic. but the job isn’t done yet.

If you want to get media packages together, God Bless, but my own feeling is educating them is useless. We have to make a incredibly loud, non-violent noise on the internet and at functions until no one can ignore us. THEN, like with Matthews, we’ll break this story open into the mainstream.

RO
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 9:08 AM

Shouldn’t we be working on local levels as well. I have considered writing letters to local police chiefs, mayors and now we have many new governors.

sky
Reply to  RO
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:52 AM

type in va18.2-482

sky
Reply to  RO
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:56 AM

email this james baker institute, Houston Tx. He is a lawyer,ex sec.of state.

Lorene B
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 8:55 AM

I AGREE! The first and most important issue in 2011 is to remove the ineligible person sitting in the President’s chair. Everything else is secondary.

Francis Henderson, CA
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:55 AM

> however to be impeached you must be a legal President to begin with

I beg to disagree. Impeachment is the proper procedure provided by the Constitution.

If you say impeachment is not necessary, so only someone (a court, Congress, etc.) needs to declare an acting president “illegal” to remove him, that would create a backdoor to removing any president without the procedure prescribed by the Constitution. And that would be unconstitutional.

(Just imagine, any court could have simply declared G.W. Bush an “illegal president” and thrown him in jail without the proper procedure? That would have been a coup d’état.)

Contrary to what many think, impeachment does not, in itself, constitute an admission the impeached person is legally occupying the office.

sky
Reply to  Francis Henderson, CA
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:01 AM

A Usuper is a traitor,and doesnt have to be impeached,He can be thrown out now,by the secret service,FBI,Military,the tenth amendment center

Francis Henderson, CA
Reply to  sky
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:58 AM

No, because who makes the decision who is a usurper/traitor?

As I’ve said, if just “anyone” can make that decision, who prevents that “someone” from making that decision with another President?

There have got to be rules and procedures, and the Constitution has laid out a clear procedure for removing a person holding the office of President (regardless of legitimacy).

What you are advocating is that the FBI or the military can, at any time and at their own discretion, declare any President “a usurper/traitor” and remove him and get away with it. That would not apply just to Obama, but to any other President. Don’t you see that?

That is against the clear wording of the Constitution.

Harry H
Reply to  Francis Henderson, CA
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:49 AM

The 20th Amendment specifically provides for dealing with a president-elect who is found to be unqualified. Since Obama does not satisfy the MANDATE of Article II, Section 1, he is not and cannot be president; he is still only a president-elect and therefore subject to the 20th Amendment. All Congress has to do is to declare him unqualified and name an acting president.

True Patriot
Reply to  Francis Henderson, CA
Thursday, January 6, 2011 11:26 AM

Impeachment process is only for NBC’s , not illegal aliens. I have spoken with several lawyers versed extensively in the laws of the U.S. Constitution.

Obama will have to be unseated. He is not an NBC, but an illegal alien according to the laws
under the Constitution.

These are lawyers who only handle cases involving our U.S. Constitution.

Robert
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 4:08 AM

Grassfire Nation is part of the problem. I have blocked their annoying e-Mails.

Reply to  Robert
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 8:09 PM

Well you can always unsubscribe from our annoying emails. It’s really not that difficult!

True Patriot
Reply to  Darla Dawald
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 11:10 AM

I unsubscribed many, many times and kept getting emails anyway. So apparently it is that difficult.

Tuesday, January 4, 2011 3:42 AM

I noticed a moment in time when Patriot Action/Resistnet/Grassfire’s attitude changed; when Glenn Beck denounced we so-called “birthers”. IMO, suddenly, their enthusiasm for the subject evaporated. More to the point, IMO, anyone critical of Beck was severely chastised by the mods under the various admonishments of being a troll, rude, what-have-you. The moment you speak ill of Beck, suddenly every little misstep ignored by the mods for others becomes an impeachable offense by you, IMO.

There also appears, IMO, to be a sort of self-serving interest there, like the people who gladhand at fundraiser pancake breakfasts to have their picture taken with the secretary of the friend of the country treasurer’s brother. Only my opinion, of course.

Nothing can be done reasonably as long as Obama hides his citizenship records. This is so obvious now it’s really insane, like breathing in the poisonous smoke instead of putting out the fire. The situation hangs like an iron cloud over every speech Obama makes, everything he signs, every subject to which he offers his name; anything he does in an official capacity is suspect and rightly so. No one goes to the lengths to which he goes to hide, as his supports try to frame it, nothing.

Obama’s behavior is either sadistic (toward those who worry about the issue), paranoid ( if he has nothing to hide) or guilty (if he has something to hide). At this point there are no fourth options.

Instead of posting endlessly on places like Patriot’s Action/Resistnet/grassfire, which is, in my opinion, in practice the same as people shouting at each other in a vacuum, get onto the comments sections of every news report you can (Yahoo has comments sections for all the AP stories, for example) and steer the discussion like an arrow right back to the citizenship issue. Don’t worry about being off-topic: it’s impossible; Obama’s eligibility to serve is at the center of ANY political story, because if he is ineligible, then it undermines the story itself, and that is definitely ON-topic.

As TV’s liberal Chris Matthews has shown, the media is straining like a weak, water-soaked plank under the unbearable weight of this issue. They can’t take this much longer, and we’re right. A final, larger, sustained push, with the new GOP House leadership dutifully apprised, should open this up, finally.

Spend your time on those comments news sections, if you’re a message board posting type. There you are speaking to the real world and influencing people uneducated on the subject or on the fence, not preaching to the lazy choir who message to vent, and then once satisfied, leave others to do the heavy lifting.

Reply to  G-Starz
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 8:14 PM

That is completely inaccurate. We have posted a lot of info on his eligibility and videos. Most Tea Party groups won’t even let you discuss it…we actually had a heading for it in our forum.

We don’t ask people to spend time preaching to the choir we have always asked you to get to get out and share the truth with everyone…get involved in your community, spread the word.

Folks here would rather sit and bash other conservatives than to recognize that we are all on the same team…shame on you folks…

We very seldom ask for money on our site whereas I receive a least 1-2 request a week from almost all others.

Give me a break.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Ms. Dawald apparently did not note that the article citing the Patriot Action Network is an opinion piece, not a news story. The Post & Email is focused on reporting hard news and publishing citizen editorials, and we take no position on the opinions expressed in the latter.

Reply to  Darla Dawald
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 3:58 AM

Ms. Dawald,

If the citizenship issue was indeed of the degree of concern to Patriots Action as you seem to suggest, in my opinion, you would join in formally complaining against Glenn Beck for mocking the “birthers”. Silence is not golden when it comes to unsettling issues about Obama and those who, themselves, try to silence the issues; there is no such thing as a neutral inaction in this battle. Any group is either with the citizenship truthers (‘birthers”) or they are not. Remaining silent about Beck is not a neutral inactivity. Remaining silent, IMO, is passive support of his mocking position.

Anyway, I return to my previous point; the tea party is what has essentially saved the country, but their weak-kneed avoidance of the citizenship issue is troubling in the very extreme. Still, people can take their otherwise terrific example and head for the comments section of every news story – taking to the ‘internet street’, so to speak – and flood those comments sections with citizenship issue stories for the coming weeks and months, every day, until the issue busts wide open. No matter how you slice it, at this stage of the game, it must be a win-win; if Obama is ineligible, then the result is obvious. if his records are clean, why the game-playing? Sadism? Paranoia? We should know. The only way to lose the political battle on this now is to stay silent.

So please, get out there on those comments sections of news articles and steer it all toward the citizenship issue. When Chris Matthews joins in an uneasy truce with the birthers in demanding the records, going so far as to carefully explain why the COLB was insufficient evidence, then you know that the question is wide-open and “safe’ for debate!

True Patriot
Reply to  Darla Dawald
Thursday, January 6, 2011 8:59 PM

Nor has Dawald answer why she has answered Jan’s response instead of Steve Elliott, who the letter was directly to. And on that letter from Elliott it only mentioned in the url address
Grassfire Nation.

But she wants anyone on here to be ashamed for getting involved trying to help America.

She is assumptive in her comments, and out of line once again. We say to you Dawald
shame on you, and shame on you for answering someone else’s letter.

NUTN2SAY
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 12:37 AM

When you are solicited by these groups the first thing to check for is to see if they are asking for donations and if the are ignore them! They in MHO are out to just make a quick buck by taking advantage of a dire situation in America! I will give my money to the person or group who first initiates a legal course of action (like a class action petition for the redress of grievances that addresses Obama and his not being a Natural Born Citizen) and then seeks funds for the cause and without establishing some sort of quota, but that hasn’t happened yet. Wonder Why?

Monday, January 3, 2011 10:28 PM

Jan,thankyou for speaking for so many Americans,I too have experienced the same situation. These so called “GrassRoots Org” need to demand truth! They have hymm-hawed around way too long now. Time to put the pedal to the medal. Tea Partys all of the freedom groups-“TIME TO QUESTION THE FRAUD IN OUR WHITEHOUSE-” he has almost suceeded in his goal of taking America down.I’m ready to embarass this guy,it is a small price to pay compared to what we are facing, think????

Durus
Monday, January 3, 2011 9:18 PM

LT. COL. TERRY LAKIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT, AND OBAMA SHOULD BE IN LEAVENWORTH PRISON. THIS TYRANNY MUST STOP FOR 2011.

Nigel Smale
Reply to  Durus
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 5:58 AM

> LT. COL. TERRY LAKIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT

With all due respect, I expect a little more from a president than “stand up against the usurper”. After all, with this qualification, anybody here on P&E could be president. Why not Walt? Why not Mario? Why not Sharon?

True Patriot
Reply to  Nigel Smale
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 12:44 PM

You missed the point entirely. The point is we have an illegal usurper in the White House and a hero in Leavenworth.

Monday, January 3, 2011 8:04 PM

I sign almost all of their petitions. And of course, after doing so, one is forwarded to a DONATION PAGE. In my last petition signing, I sent the following email BACK to grassfire:

Dear Sirs:

I am the past/former State Party Chairman of the American Independent Party. I have been unhappy with the Republican Party for more than a decade now. The Republican Party, the home of Arnold Schwartzenegger, Spector, Bush and other RINOs have destroyed America.

Your poll (URL below) leaves out 3rd Parties (especially the AIP, IAP and the CP) and only mention the REPUBLICAN PARTY. Hence, you are perpetuating the corruption of the Republican Party.

Secondly, you do not add a very serious matter that Congress should be concerned about:
THE ILLEGAL ALIEN that squats in the White House. He is not qualified as per the Constitution. He is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

If you do not understand what is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN…let me educate you. The opposite of NATURAL is ALIEN. If there is any aspect of a birth that is ALIEN, then it is not a natural born birth.

In the matter of Mr. Soetoro (aka BHO) his daddy was AN ALIEN! Mr. Obama Sr was a foreign national of Britain, and later a citizen of KENYA. Since he was alien, this made Mr. Soetoro Jr part alien…therefore unqualified to be president…PERIOD!

Where do you list this Constitutional crisis on your list? You ignore it like all of the rest of the braindead Republicans. You wonder why I refuse to contribute to your Marxist Republican group? This is why. I will not offer my money to groups that care not for the Constitution.

Sorry, but that is how I feel.
Edward C Noonan
former 2010 US Senate Candidate (CA)
former State Party Chair – American Independent Party

Monday, January 3, 2011 7:30 PM

Jan, That doesn’t look like much of a personal response at all. It would appear that it was a form letter/answer because Mr. Elliott failed to address your issue which I agree is the one that most needs to be addressed in this country. Unfortunately, there is a great conspiracy afoot….for what reason it is not yet completely clear to me.

How could our entire government, our courts and the media look the other way. Every member in Congress KNOWS full well that we have a USURPER in the White House…but they do nothing. What do they expect to get from this treasonous cover-up? What future do their children and grandchildren have in a country where personal liberties are diminished and freedoms destroyed? And their failure to speak out on behalf of LTC Lakin is reprehensible! Are you listening Michele Bachmann? Sarah Palin what say you? Mitt Romney? Tim Pawlenty? Mitch Daniels? Newt Gingrich? Rush Limbaugh how about making a national issue?Could you please say something? Call a press conference! Republican “leadership” stop kissing Obama’s ass! Investigate NOW! Cowards all of them.

The problem is that we have millions and millions and millions of people who are clueless…either apathetic, stupid or ignorant. This is what the LEFT relied on with their illegal subversive takeover of the executive branch. We MUST get the word out before it is too late! We need a leader to step up to the microphone and make an international story about the fraud in the White House!

True Patriot
Monday, January 3, 2011 7:28 PM

Yes Obama must be unseated. All other work is in vain if he is not removed from his
illegal perch in the White House, and his band of thugs.

Tyranny is upon us America, and we must stop it.

vkroo
Monday, January 3, 2011 6:51 PM

I sent a similar letter to the RNC when they requested a donation. I told them to “man up” and do the right thing. There is no more important issue facing this country than unseating the usurper. He will be king if we don’t throw him out very soon!

Reply to  vkroo
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 10:21 AM

G-Starz has a good idea…everyone who likes (or not) to post comments…go and post the facts about eligibility. Also…put the links to various blogs where the the stupid and ignorant can educate themselves and be brought up to speed. This blog by Sharon is one of the best and an obvious source of solid information and facts re: Obama. Canada Free Press, Obamareleaseyour records, drkatesview, citizenwells, giveusliberty1776, american grand jury, jbjd, conservative monster are just a few of the many other great sources that we can direct people to. WE MUST GET THE WORD OUT! I think I have only met one “stranger” who even had any idea who LTC Lakin is! Get my point?