JURY TRIAL MAY 14-19 TO BE “AN INTERNATIONAL EVENT”
by Sharon Rondeau
(Apr. 27, 2010) — Today The Post & Email welcomed back Dr. James David Manning, Ph.D., to speak about the upcoming Columbia University Treason and Sedition Trial which he is conducting in Harlem, NY, from May 14-19, 2010. Dr. Manning reports that he has documented evidence that Barack Hussein Obama II is not a “natural born Citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution to be President of the United States, and that Obama also did not attend Columbia University from 1981-83 as Obama has claimed.
MRS. RONDEAU: In your most recent video, you stated that a highly-placed government official will be testifying at the trial. How did you get him to agree to testify, and will he be there in person or submitting something written?
DR. MANNING: Right now, we are anticipating at least two government officials will testify. One will be through statements that will be uttered that will be documented, and the other will be a physical presentation where he will actually take the stand.
MRS. RONDEAU: And are they in government now or were they past employees of the federal government?
DR. MANNING: One is in government now, and one is a past employee.
MRS. RONDEAU: How did you reach out to them and when?
DR. MANNING: Actually, one reached out to me and the other became a matter of my investigation discovery.
MRS. RONDEAU: How long has the investigation lasted?
DR. MANNING: I have been following the Obama ineligibility issue from 2007, quite frankly, but more emphatically since the election on November 4, 2008. That is when I began observing the issue of ineligibility more closely. I have been on this matter for a couple of years now.
MRS. RONDEAU: How long have you had a formal investigation going on?
DR. MANNING: Six months or so.
MRS. RONDEAU: I know that the trial will take place May 14-19. You’ve also mentioned a march around Columbia University. Does that coincide with those dates, or will that be at a separate time?
DR. MANNING: The two are synonymous.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you have any other key witnesses coming?
DR. MANNING: I have some very interesting witnesses that I have subpoenaed such that if they show up, it will be explosive. If they don’t show up, we’re going to have them testify based on previous statements they have made, carefully observing the rules of evidence to enter those statements into evidence. Having said that, I have subpoenaed George Stephanopoulos, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Condolezza Rice; I have subpoenaed Michael Sovern, the President of Columbia University at the hour when the breach and the infractions took place; and I have subpoenaed Rod Blagojevich, whom I think is integral to a number of things that went on with the surrender of Barack Obama’s law license back in the spring of 2008 when Blagojevich was still governor; I want to talk to him about that. I’ve subpoenaed all of the faculty that were a part of the Political Science program during the years that Obama would have been a student at Columbia University.
More recently, I have subpoenaed Louis Farrakhan and Jesse Jackson mainly because they were in Chicago in an eminent way during the years that Obama was an alleged community organizer. Jesse Jackson was running PUSH and the Rainbow Coalition, and Louis Farrakhan was eminent in forming the Million Man March, and Obama was allegedly a community organizer during a stretch of years. I want to know what their relationship was and why they did not know him until he rolled into the Senate seat in Illinois some years later. More specifically, the tenor of Chicago needs to be outlined by those two leaders.
I have also subpoenaed James Cone, who is a professor and the founder of the whole idea of Black Theology. He wrote a very explosive book in the early ’80s outlining black theology. He was the mentor of Jeremiah Wright, who was Obama’s pastor for 20 years. Jeremiah Wright has developed his theology out of James Cone’s Black Theology; all the tenets which Wright preaches are based on Cone’s philosophical, religious and cultural outline. I’ve subpoenaed him for two reasons. One is that Dr. James Cone was an eminent professor at the Union Theological Seminary, which had a very close relationship with Columbia University. During the years that Obama would have studied at Columbia, James Cone was right across the street as the most eminent black theologian in 1979-81. Everyone on the planet was talking about James Cone then. I want to ask James Cone this one question: Why is it that he and Obama never knew each other with Obama being a black person searching for his roots, and James Cone right there with everyone wanting an interview with him. Why didn’t Obama take any classes with him? The Union Theological Seminary and Columbia University were connected.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think it’s significant that they apparently never met?
DR. MANNING: I think it’s telling beyond belief that if Obama was indeed, in his own words, “searching for his roots,” if James Cone was teaching in the school Obama attended, why didn’t they know each other?
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think perhaps they met or had dealings with each other and neither one will admit it?
DR. MANNING: Well, let’s find out. If they concealed the information, why? I have a hunch that they did not; in fact, I know that they didn’t, because James Cone was my professor as well during those years. Perhaps they had lunch; I doubt it, but if they did, why did they conceal it, and if they didn’t, there is no way that Obama could have been at Columbia and not have known James Cone. And also, James Cone and Cornell West were both professors from 1979 to 1985 at Union Theological Seminary, which had a close relationship with Columbia University. Both were my professors during those years. Not only do I want to know why Obama did not know James Cone; I want to know why he didn’t know Cornell West. At the time, these two men were perhaps the two most important black men on the planet, and for Obama not to have had any contact with them, or to mention them in any of his writings or speeches, leaves a big question mark, and I want to know why. I’ve subpoenaed those four men to come to testify; now whether they come or not remains to be seen.
MRS. RONDEAU: Is there a penalty if anyone does not honor your subpoena?
DR. MANNING: The Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives us the absolute, mandated right to call for a trial with a jury of we the people sanctioned by the Constitution if we discover that the courts or government officials are not executing their duties and allowing the people due process. Thusly, the Constitution empowers our courts. We, at times, will present evidence that crimes have taken place. At that point, it becomes the responsibility of the officials to arrest those who have been charged with crimes in a public and duly-authorized hearing or court. We will point out that crimes did take place. If the court is duly authorized, then the contempt of that court is also an infraction, and you can be arrested for that as well. So anyone who does not show up can be in contempt of a duly-authorized, Tenth Amendment, constitutionally-mandated court. That’s the best way to answer that.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you have a mechanism to enforce it?
DR. MANNING: We will present the information to the local officials.
MRS. RONDEAU: How many people do you expect to be there, not counting media?
DR. MANNING: We have several people, more than 50, who have submitted their names to serve as jurors. I suspect that number will go well past 100 before we actually begin the process of selecting 12. We have other people also who have volunteered to participate in the trial: stenographers, artists, technicians – a large number in those areas. In terms of observers and those who will march around Columbia University, the Columbia march and the trial will happen in tandem, so we will start each day with a march around the compound of Columbia University. It will have the biblical basis of the Joshua march around the city of Jericho. We will do it by that example and then come back to the courtroom, which is only seven blocks from Columbia. The trial will start each day about 11:00, because it will take us about an hour or so to do the march around the campus.
How many people participate in total is anybody’s guess…all I know is that we’re getting a flurry of activity and information and registration of people who have stated that they are going to be here. I suspect we’re going to see thousands upon thousands…I estimated at one point 30,000…I really don’t know.
MRS. RONDEAU: When will you finish selecting the jurors?
DR. MANNING: That is a matter of whether or not Columbia and/or Obama will send defense attorneys to make an attempt to represent themselves, so it’s hard to say. A jury selection process could go for a day and a half or two days, perhaps.
MRS. RONDEAU: So people might arrive there thinking that they’re going to be on the jury, and that might not be the case.
DR. MANNING: They have to be here on the morning of the 14th and they have to register well in advance. There’s a registration login at our website where jurors can log in and register. But they will have to be here on the morning of the 14th in the courtroom in order to be a part of the jury.
MRS. RONDEAU: And then you’ll start selecting jurors just as any other grand jury would?
DR. MANNING: Yes.
MRS. RONDEAU: During the trial, do you expect that evidence will come out that specifically points to Obama being ineligible for the presidency, or is your evidence focused strictly on the Columbia University issue?
DR. MANNING: The trial, at present, is being structured by me, as a prosecutor, in three phases. Phase One will demonstrate unequivocally with proof, with documentation, with statements, with a plethora of evidence that Obama is indeed not a natural born Citizen. That would be the objective, and we will have evidence that will substantiate that at least 12 different acceptable ways. From there, we will demonstrate that since he isn’t natural born, he violates the U.S. Constitution. That’s No. 1.
The second stage of the trial will demonstrate that the alleged Columbia years were not spent at Columbia University and the issuance of the degree all over the place demonstrates that Obama did not attend Columbia in a traditional or non-traditional, satellite or correspondence course. He was not enrolled in any of those courses. We will demonstrate the type of program that Columbia had and the requirements for a political science major to complete and that Obama did not participate at that level, yet he was issued a degree. We have the documentation at Stage 2 of the trial to demonstrate that both Columbia and Obama were in a criminal conspiracy to issue and to accept, respectively, knowing that he had not completed the required courses to have done so.
MRS. RONDEAU: Was Columbia paid off?
DR. MANNING: They were certainly compensated for their efforts; “paid off” might not be the appropriate term.
The third segment will be to demonstrate that if Obama was not at Columbia for two solid years, then where was he? and why was he? which would introduce how he was first approached and why Columbia was approached, and we’re going to go through all of the evidence that Obama has presented, which is scant. Columbia has produced absolutely nothing to validate any reason to give him a degree in light of all the questions that were raised about his non-attendance there. Then we’re going to move to demonstrating the CIA involvement, the Afghanistan involvement, the Patrice Lamumba School in Moscow, how that entire area works and what Obama’s and the CIA’s roles were during those years.
MRS. RONDEAU: So you will cover a lot of ground during those 5-6 days.
DR. MANNING: Yes, we plan to do it as efficiently as we possibly can; we just wonder whether we’ll have enough time, because some of this could take 3-4 days on its own.
MRS. RONDEAU: And you have paper documentation of all of this?
DR. MANNING: Yes, we do.
MRS. RONDEAU: How many private investigators did you use?
DR. MANNING: We used only three, not including myself. With me, that makes four. One of them is a trained attorney.
MRS. RONDEAU: Are you able to announce the names of the lawyers and judge who may be presiding, prosecuting or defending during the trial?
DR. MANNING: I would not want to release that information at present.
MRS. RONDEAU: If for some reason on the 19th you have not finished presenting all of the evidence, is there a mechanism to extend the trial, or does it have to be done within those six days?
DR. MANNING: We are going to approach this matter, if the attorneys for the defense show up, using reasonable and fair procedures that both the defense and the prosecution can agree upon; that’s generally how it’s done. The defense could spend four days defending one issue that I bring up, so this trial could last for a month. If it did, then of course both parties would then have to agree to let the trial run its course. If we get into a contest between the prosecution and the defense attorneys and we recognize that even with the selecting of a jury and the presentation of the prosecution’s case, we’ve exhausted the first 5-7 days, I think it would be agreeable to both the American people and the people involved to do what every other trial does: let it run its course, and when it’s complete, it’s complete. We have put the parameters of the trial based on the march around Columbia University at seven days, but that certainly is not a hard and fast rule.
MRS. RONDEAU: At this point, do you know if Obama is aware that this is going to take place?
DR. MANNING: Well, he has been served, as has Columbia University. We have talked with the officials from New York City’s police department about it, and they are in great deliberations about it as we speak. I am absolutely confident that he is aware that the trial has been set.
MRS. RONDEAU: Has there been any response from the White House or any defense attorneys for him?
DR. MANNING: None.
MRS. RONDEAU: You may have recently read that attorneys for Rod Blagojevich, the former Illinois governor whom you mentioned a few minutes ago, have subpoenaed Obama to testify at his trial which is expected to start June 3. The Post & Email just published a story on it. Do you think that what Blagojevich contends, that Obama is vital to the case because he has different information from what has been presented, is true, and that Obama could be guilty of crimes regarding the selling of the Senate seat?
DR. MANNING: I am convinced that Blagojevich knows of Obama’s crimes, and to subpoena Obama for his trial is an act which is probably as confident as my act of bringing Obama to trial. I think Rod Blagojevich may be a bit of an odd person in many ways, but I think he knows that Obama has committed crimes and that he has the leverage to use that knowledge in the appropriate way. Why he did not use it to maintain his governor’s seat could be a matter of the federal investigation and his own crimes, but I am confident that he knows Obama has committed crimes.
I did read that Blagojevich has subpoenaed Obama, but I also read that there was a mistake in the release of seven documents that were supposed to have been sealed regarding Obama and for whatever reason were mistakenly released in the process. Actually, I don’t think they were mistakenly released; I think they were leaked. I think that’s a tactic that Obama uses quite often, leaking information. I think he’s going to do the same thing now: rather than appearing for the trial, I think he’s going to try to leak his way out of it. I’ve subpoenaed Rod Blagojevich because I know that he is absolutely integral to information about Obama, and at the appropriate time, we’ll use it. I think right now, other than Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, and Tony Rezko, too, by the way, who has been shuffled around throughout the correctional system for years and has not been sentenced — that’s unheard-of. It’s absolutely incredible that this man has not yet been sentenced, obviously because he hasn’t worked out a deal with Blagojevich and Obama. I wish I could subpoena Tony Rezko, but I’m certainly going to get Blagojevich here. I think he might come. More than anybody else, I think Blagojevich might show up.
MRS. RONDEAU: Have you heard anything from him?
DR. MANNING: Not a word.
MRS. RONDEAU: Is there any evidence that gives you the idea that he might come?
DR. MANNING: No.
MRS. RONDEAU: Regarding accommodations for those who will be coming to New York, have you made package arrangements available?
DR. MANNING: We’ve listed some hotels to give people a general sense of the area as well as travel companies such as Expedia, Priceline.com, and all those places which can help people to get into a room and get comfortable.
The week prior to the trial, we will put up a pictorial of the area and a schedule of events right down to the last detail. All of that will be made available so that when people finally do arrive in New York, they will be able to go through the pictorial and won’t be lost about anything regarding the trial or the march.
MRS. RONDEAU: What will you be doing between now and the trial?
DR. MANNING: At the present time, we are structuring the flow of information and the idea of what we want to see as jurors. Our next step within the next couple of days is to begin to reach out to the Harlem community. As you know, this is happening in Harlem. We have 2000-3000 people, at the very least, expected to march through the streets of Harlem, all coming from a conservative, Anglo-Saxon background. Therefore, we want to make sure that we have done our homework in the community, first of all, by informing the community that the people will be coming and for the businesses, the restaurants, the shops, souvenir places, to be prepared to receive this extra flow of business. We want to at least offer that as an olive branch to the community. We also are taking measures to make sure that we reach out to the community leaders so that the people who are integral to the community will recognize that this is simply a matter of justice that needs to take place. That way, there will not be any disrespect for either group that will be in the community at the time.
Because we believe that a large number of people coming will be middle-aged to elderly people, we want to make sure that because they will not be able to get into the church but will be seated outside, there will be comfortable seating for everybody, refreshments, water — we’re contacting several of the major bottling companies to get involved in the process and a number of other people who will be integral to making comfortable the days during which people will be sitting and watching the trial on a big screen. I think our major efforts over the next couple of weeks will be to get the community ready to receive this, and we want the community very much involved in the process.
MRS. RONDEAU: Would you say that most of the people in your immediate community are or were Obama supporters?
DR. MANNING: I would say that for the most part, they still are, but not at the level at which they were…the kind of energy that was generated during the campaign is not there now. People were excited because of the campaign and its potential. They’ve had a year, nearly two years now, to digest Obama’s alleged and illegal presidency, and some of that energy has dissipated, and for the most part, they would never be as excitable as they were during the campaign.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think a lot of them are disappointed in Obama, or do you think they sense that something could be wrong with his legitimacy?
DR. MANNING: I think both. I think perhaps they’re willing to sweep it under the rug, and perhaps many have said, “Well, you know, if there’s something wrong with his legitimacy, he’s not the first; think about who Bush was,” and a number of other things. But it has lessened some of his support; it is not as staunch as it was, and I don’t think it will ever be again, quite frankly.
MRS. RONDEAU: Is that true of members of your church who were avid Obama supporters?
DR. MANNING: Yes, it does. The passing of time and the fact that he has not met any of those expectations as far as the black community is concerned have caused their support to wane. I think the best way to express that is that many people, even on the very liberal far left, are disappointed with Obama. They thought that he was really going to demonstrate a change that they could sink their teeth into and be proud of. He’s disappointed them. And that’s understandable and appreciable from a political point of view that is legitimate. The black people are equally disappointed, not so much because they had a clear outline of what they thought Obama would be as a black president; I’m not sure what they expected, but they’re certainly not getting it, or anything near it, and they know it in their hearts.
MRS. RONDEAU: So people are starting to understand that he didn’t follow through on what he said he would do.
DR. MANNING: Or become what they thought he would become. People are floating statements around now that there’s not much difference between Obama and Clarence Thomas or Obama and George Bush, and that is damning! People are writing that and making valid points, that Obama is continuing the Bush doctrine. That’s unheard-of, but it’s happening!
MRS. RONDEAU: After the trial, will there be a way to get the information to every single American, particularly if they don’t have internet access?
DR. MANNING: Because the courts have prevented the evidence that I will be presenting at this trial from being presented and deliberated on, they have routinely stated that those who made claims against Obama have no standing, so therefore, the information has been muted, for the most part. The psychological effect of that is when the courts made such statements regarding that and all the attorneys: Phil Berg, Orly Taitz, and the others…people who did not understand the procedure thought the courts had ruled against the information. The courts never ruled against the validity of the information; they ruled against the opportunity to bring that information to the courts that it might become public knowledge.
Our advantage here is that we can then demonstrate that a constitutionally-mandated, Tenth Amendment court hearing has taken place, the evidence has been presented in a credible way that is irrefutable, and there is documented evidence that crimes have taken place…at that point, America is going to have to step back and ask herself a question: What should we do about this? Should we disavow the right of the people to call a court, a grand jury…by the way, grand juries are not a part of the government, but yet, certainly are mandated by the Constitution, and as such, on a matter as integral, as important, as all-encompassing as the highest office of our land, are we simply going to ignore the evidence as if it never took place? I don’t think so.
The other thing is that I am convinced that, knowing the media, they know that this is going on, because the New York City Police Department is making statements such as, “We can’t handle seven days of people marching around; we don’t have the resources to do that; we can’t shut down the streets for seven days.” Now they’re going to have to do it, but the Mayor has to make the final decision on this. So the media has been informed. I guarantee you: one of the mainstream media-types is going to break this story, because they recognize that if they don’t break it, someone’s going to break it before them…trust me, by the time the gavel falls, they’ll be all over the place.
MRS. RONDEAU: So you do think that the mainstream media, television, perhaps, will report this?
DR. MANNING: I’m confident of it; they’ll have to. You can’t have white people marching through Harlem and the media not report it. I don’t care how much they love Obama.
MRS. RONDEAU: If after the trial you find Obama guilty of something and present it to law enforcement, is there any way they can tell you that you don’t have standing?
DR. MANNING: Not unless they’re willing to disavow the Constitution. If I approached a local precinct or district attorney and said, “I am a witness to a crime; I saw this man sell drugs and then stab the person he sold the drugs to, and here’s the evidence,” if the district attorney says, “You don’t have standing, and I’m not going to act upon that,” then he is negligent in his duty and can be prosecuted himself. This trial will bring forth testimony of crimes that have taken place, and at that point, somebody has to arrest somebody.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think that will be an outcome of the trial?
DR. MANNING: If it’s not, then the failure to arrest will be a bigger issue. The matter here is that the authorities are going to have to act one way or the other. The matter cannot be kept away from the press. I have likened this to an open door with Columbia University. There is no way that this matter will not become a national and international event. We have international people coming to the trial who will be reporting about it in their nations. The only way that they can stop this information from coming out is to stop the trial. It will have to be reported and acted upon unless they want to go further and state, “Because of our complicit criminal activity, we’re going to ignore the constitutional mandate allowing people to form a trial and to bring due process to the American people.”
MRS. RONDEAU: So you think this will be the catalyst to get law enforcement to act on this?
DR. MANNING: I’m very confident that it will.
MRS. RONDEAU: Is there anything else you would like to say about the trial and everything that has led up to it?
DR. MANNING: People in government at present, whom I call collectively the “2008 political class” such as John McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, the Clintons, Dr. Howard Dean – all these people know of Obama’s ineligibility. There are people now in the media, Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck (whose statement in particular of “Well, if it was proven that he was ineligible, it would tear the nation apart” makes him a part of the 2008 political class along with all the others), who know that Obama is not eligible and that he is an illegal alien, and they know that he cannot defend himself against such a trial as this. The excuse passed around in board rooms and situation rooms and think tanks has been that if we expose him, it would tear the nation apart; black people in particular would rise up. And the thing I’d like to say to you, having said that, is this: that’s a misnomer; it’s a red herring. First of all, it is a very condescending, patronizing and disrespectful view of black people that their only recourse is to riot. It’s disrespectful.
While I think that a number of things have remained the same or gotten worse in America, one of the things I can say as an alleged “black” pastor is that black people are not of the mindset of the 1960s when rioting was a solution to their problems. That is not the mindset of black people anymore, and they just don’t have that energy or that understanding. They have become a little more politically savvy whereby they go to the polls, or they may march, but certainly not riot. That needs to be clear. But even were they of that mindset, I don’t think now, after having observed Obama for a year and a half, that they would be willing to put all on the line to protect someone who can be demonstrated to be guilty and who has embarrassed them, and moreover, suckered them or pimped them and then given black people a black eye because here’s this man who is allegedly the first black president but has a marred, if you will, dirty, dirty background and a dirty secret. I don’t think they would defend that with riotous behavior.
Muhammed Ali, who was, in his heyday, even more popular than Obama is at present — I mean, he was just a very popular person – when his title was taken from him, there was not one riot in the street about that. When Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated, there was some setting of fires and some boisterous behavior, but even Robert Kennedy himself stated in a meeting in Indianapolis that he quelled a riot there when he made the announcement and blacks went home peacefully. So to think that to use a shotgun or to hold a shotgun to the head of the American people to say, “Let this man continue in office, albeit illegally; it is the better of the two evils” is a farce. It is absolutely the worst possible thing for America and for black people, in particular. Let justice be done and let America rise up and accept justice, and America will heal itself. So I think that people using the argument that exposing Obama destroys America is absolutely criminal and the worst kind of condescension toward black people.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think that’s what McCain and the others have been doing? Is that their justification for not stepping forward and saying, “This man is not an Article II, Section I-eligible person?”
DR. MANNING: Absolutely.
MRS. RONDEAU: The Post & Email very much appreciates your time, Dr. Manning, and we wish you the very best between now and the trial.
DR. MANNING: God bless you.
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Editor’s Note: The Post & Email’s initial interview with Dr. Manning can be found here. Additional information about Dr. Manning’s ministries and the Columbia trial can be found here.
I’m for one proud as heck of you, Dr. Manning! ‘Bout time someone with some backbone stood up for this country and THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ! You go, man, by Brother ! (and by the way, I’m a white country hick from Arkansas!)
A terrorist is also someone who hides ALL his documents, using stolen security social numbers, trying to destroy your freedom, freedom of speech, and dissarm you !!
While this Rev. Manning is sometimes funny (some of his videos on youtube make you chuckle out loud, especially his references to “long-legged mack daddy”), he is amazingly articulate and coherent in this interview. (Was the interview transcript edited or pretty much verbatim?) Have become so used to hearing “Uh, uh, uh” and “you know” and “I mean” and all kinds of backtracking and false starts and stops in listening to interviews, press conferences and televised speeches, that to hear such coherent, clear, well-spoken dialogues was surprising and delightful!
Let’s pray that the TRUTH comes to light on May 14th if not sooner!
P.S. from urbandictionary.com:
“Mac Daddy” or Mack Daddy, is a term used to describe a man with an unusual power over women, and is derived from the French and later Louisiana Creole patois term “maqereau”, which means “pimp”. Adding “daddy” makes it mean “top pimp”.
There is a new video out on YouTube:
“New Solid Proof Obama was Born in Kenya – CitizenAlert#1-May/2010”
In it he referes to a book: “Obama, Ineligible To Serve, Lies, Crimes and Deadly Ambition” — this book is a great source for all legal, factual evidence that Obama is not eligible to be President.
As long as people such as Dr. Manning are living among us, there is hope for humanity. In all sincerity, I would like to see you in the White House! (It would need to be fumigated first though!) God bless you, sir.
I am thankful for Dr. Manning’s pursuit of justice and for the protection of the American people from the organized criminals. I share his hope of having ALL the organized criminals who are running and ruining America and robbing and deceiving the American people brought to justice.
Down with organized crime aka the Kingdom of Satan!
I absolutely disagree that the Constitution doesn’t have a possibility to get the definition of NBC (Natural Born Citizen). See about that (I have placed a reference to “The ultimate proof…” many times in my previous comments):
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/26/who-is-barack-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-6687
“The ultimate proof of Obama’s Ineligibility to be President Of The United States (POTUS) according to the Constitution”
Additionally – my recent detailed comment (Apr 28, 2010 at 3:18pm) about the definition of NBC according to the Constitution
http://www.caaflog.com/2010/04/22/a-quick-look-at-ltc-lakins-legal-defense-fund/#comment-14092
and the short “closing statement” there (I’m copying it below):
http://www.caaflog.com/2010/04/22/a-quick-look-at-ltc-lakins-legal-defense-fund/#comment-14130
“This is my short “closing statement” in front of the jury of respected readers regarding my last long post (Apr 28, 2010 at 3:18pm) and “The ultimate proof…”
I’ll just repeat only one quote from the framer of 14th Amendment, John Bingham: “…every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….” I don’t think anyone can say better than that.
I believe that framers of 14th Amendment knew and understood the meaning of 14th Amendment better than any comments made later after them: “…not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty…”
It’s perfectly relates to the spirit of George Washington’s quote: “… shut up every avenue to foreign influence,…”
The question is: Do current US citizens wish to carry out the well-thought wise will (testament) of that one of outstanding founding fathers of the US Republic?”
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I would add a couple links pertaining to 14th Amendment but I’m afraid that antispamming filter will not allow to do that. So I give only titles:
1) “Original intent of the 14th Amendment”;
2) “Alien Birthright Citizenship: A Fable That Lives Through Ignorance”
By P.A. Madison, The Federalist Blog, December 17, 2005
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I ask Mrs. Rondeau to submit this comment to Dr. Manning. I’d be very thankful for that because I think it would be helpful to him immediately.
Sharon I wrote to you about s.t. important.
Mrs. Rondeau replies: Answer just sent!
Sharon, did you ever find the March 25 minutes of the Kenyan National Assembly where they claimed Obama is not a native american? I have located a pdf just in case you need it. I’m having trouble remembering which document it was that was scrubbed.
http://homelandsecurityus.com/PDF/NAKrpt.pdf
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Yes, many of us downloaded that as well as the November 5, 2008 Hansard. There is still a link that works, I believe, in a follow-up story which The Post & Email published after the March 25 Minutes first disappeared.
Clearly, the United States Congress refuses to determine if Obama is eligible or is ineligible to serve as the president of the United States as is specified within the Constitution of the United States, as amended.
Therefore, the United States Congress is sick.
http://www.CONGRESSisSICK.com
http://www.ELIGIBLEorINELIGIBLE.com
http://www.AMERICANorLYIN.com
The Constitution is the Constitution, amendments included. However, it’s rare to hear it said, for example. “that is unConstitutional per the US Constitution, as amended.”
I see an opening for the Obots to try to argue that the 14th amendment makes anchor babies and anyone else eligilble to be president.
Could someone direct me to the best source to determine the impact of the 14th amendment on “natural born citizen”? I believe there is no effect.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Read The Post & Email’s article on Breckinridge Long, the one which presents his entire article entitled, “Is Mr. Charles Evans Hughes a Natural Born Citizen?” He mentions the 14th Amendment and the differences between what its intentions were and the meaning of NBC.
Correct. The 14th amendment (ratified in 1868) has no effect on “natural born citizen”. In the 1874 case of Minor v. Happersett, the Supreme Court said the following:
“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. …”
In 1874, the 14th amendment had been a part of the Constitution for 6 years. The 14th amendment, and thus the Constitution, does not say “who shall be natural-born citizens”, because if it did, the Supreme Court would not have been able to make the statement above.
Posted links to sites that haven’t yet been created. What the heck is that about?
Great interview between Sharon Rondeau and Dr. James David Manning; THANK YOU. If one didn’t know before this interview, you should now know and see what a true Patriot looks and acts like, when confronted with a real and present danger to the United States of America, and a national crisis of unbelievable proportions. We should be out of our recession by now, we should have a balanced budget by now, we should have unemployment back to normal levels by now, we should have gotten back to our basic foundational realities like having God a meaningful part of our daily life, and our abiding within the United States Constitution. But that’s not what we are seeing is it ???, instead we are seeing extreme greed, lies, money-worship, and uncontrolled corruption starting at the highest level of government, being from potus, to scotus, congress, senate and just about everyone whom we now have elected or appointed to do the exact opposite. Isn’t there something seriously wrong when they make laws for the masses, but exempt themselves from the same laws, DAH ???; like obamacare, paying taxes, sharing of economic hardships, law enforcement, all while they make themselves the highest paid of the land, with the highest and best of retirement benefits, and onward interminably.
Isn’t it time for America to wake up and throw “all these bums” out of office, through elections, impeachments, arrests, and by any/all legal means at our disposal. When you have rotten apples in a barrel of apples, you really don’t want to keep the rotten ones in there do you?
Now back to “Patriots” like Pastor Manning, we now see many more stepping forward like… Commander Fitzpatrick, Major Stefan Frederick Cook, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, Cdr. Charles F.Kerchner, Jr.; William Spencer Connerat III, Captain Connie Rhodes, M.D.; Philip Berg; Mario Apuzzo, Esq.; Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq.; Congressman Nathan Deal; J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ); The Honorable Jan Brewer, Mr. Eugene “Gino” DiSimone, Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli; Attorney General Bill McCollum; Idaho’s governor C. L. Otter; Robert G. Marshall; Governor Bob McDonnell; Governor Gary Herbert; Rep. Dick Harwood of Idaho; Ray McBerry; Roy Moore; and many, many more; the list is growing rapidly, “Thanks be to God”. So how do we show our appreciation to these wonderful PATRIOTS ? “WE SUPPORT THEM”, by every means possible, In Person, Support Letters like this one, Financially, whatever we can do, even Putting on a Uniform, if called upon, and it may well come to that. Just Google.com, and/or Snopes.com the word “Dhimmitude” and see if I’m overstating how serious a situation we are Now in. By the way “We don’t need a .com to communicate directly with GOD”, if ever there is any doubt in our minds about how we can assist these True Patriots, and prayerfully become one ourselves.
Pastor Manning is calling for Patriotic Citizens to show up in MASS for the very important “CIA Columbia Obama Sedition and Treason Trial” May 14 – 19, 2010. Let us support this Honourable Man in every possible way, and in every other way that he is asking for us to do; this Trial could not be more important for our very future, by shining ONE BIG LIGHT on the Rampant Evil and Corruption in our Government, that is currently turning America into a third world nation, like Greece; after all that is Obama’s true mission; “liberalism run amuck” – I rest my case !!!!! ALL PATRIOTS PLEASE STEP FORWARD NOW.
As much as I appreciate all that Dr. Manning is doing, I listened to a recent video he posted and he states over and over that white people are going to riot because of all the Obama and his thugs have done to this country. Dr. Manning said he’d even join the white folks if they’d let him. My question is this: where are the blacks in this? Is this really a matter of race, or is it one of liberty, our Constitution and freedom? Don’t all people care about that and not just “white folks”? Dr. Manning mentioned the upcoming march in Harlem and how it might make the community a little uneasy to see all those white folks marching there. Won’t there be blacks there, too?
I just wonder if there is a segment of black people who have been so accustomed to “plantation pablum” that they support anything the gov’t can take from others and give to them in patronizing handouts? I hope not, because that would not bode well for this country. We need Americans of all ethnic backgrounds to join together to snatch our country back from those intent on destroying it.
Dr. Manning, surely those who sit under your teaching will be joining the “white folks” marching and participating at the trial, right? Please do your level best to present this to your congregation and wider audience that this is emphatically NOT a white problem. This is a “rights” problem that affects all Americans, irrespective of their race or cultural identification.
I just wonder if there is a segment of black people who have been so accustomed to “plantation pablum” that they support anything the gov’t can take from others and give to them in patronizing handouts?
Yes, unfortunately, there is.
There’s also a segment of conservative black citizens , folks who don’t want any handouts for themselves and would very much like to see their black brothers and sisters wake up and realize that they’ve become enslaved by whitey again, this time around voluntarily (although unwittingly) by white Socialists calling themselves Democrats who’ve enslaved them by way of the dole. Whenever they speak up, however, they’re shot down Alinsky-style by the enslaved blacks led by libturded socialists, yelling words at them like “Uncle Tom,” “race traitor,” and “oreo.” It’s a sad situation, especially in a country that, up until now, was the wealthiest and offered more opportunities to advance oneself than any other on the planet.
I DO hope that this citizen grand jury trial will be streamed live if no major news station picks it up. I would like to see every minute from beginning to end if at all possible.
Anna Toot!?!?!?
Check out #233
http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html
Yep, number 233 list a “Toot”. I can tell they did great research.
This from the beginning of the genealogy:
“Barack Hussein Obama II, U.S. Senator from Illinois, U.S. President from 2009, b. Kapiolani Medical Center, Honolulu, Hawaii, 4 Aug. 1961,
m. at Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago, 3 Oct. 1992
Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, b. Chicago 17 Jan. 1964, dau. of Frasier Robinson and of Marian Shields. Further details of her ancestry can be found here.”
Notice they list Kapiolani Medical Center as the place of Obama’s birth, though no records exist of him being born there, nor will the hospital claim he was born there.
So, his mom was well over 200 years old when she gave birth to him. Interesting…
I just tried this and it worked:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html
If it doesn’t work through your site here, try accessing it through the Free Republic thread I found it on here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501812/posts
Good luck! Kip
Deuteronomy 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
NOTE PARTICULARLY:
Deuteronomy 28:43 The STRANGER that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
Is there anyway he can set up a video conference on a secured network where we can watch the trial. He could charge because I think it would be expensive to get a secure provider, if such a thing exists. Also, will the post & email be posting on the trial on a daily basis?
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: I understand there will be live streaming on the internet of the trial.
I hope there are but I won’t hold my breath. At least this story is entertaining.
Keep putting the pressure on Sharon. Do you still request anything from Hawaii DoH? Or have they shut everything down entirely?
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: I know they passed the new law in HI today, although it is much watered down from its original version.
There will be no more information forthcoming from the DoH or OIP unless you are perhaps a first time requester. I have a couple of open UIPA requests and an open OIP appeal. The DoH has so far ignored my requests for updates.
Other than requests for index data, first time requesters will get one of three responses regardless if a record exists or not. a) cannot disclose per HRS 338-18 citing the “direct and tangible interest” clause b) the agency is not required to create or compile information or c) no records exist that are responsive to your request.
DoH locked arms a long time ago and this is how it has responsed to an estimated 95% of the requests it has received thus far. In other words, the DoH is a dead end, IMHO.
While this bill is a watered down version of the original bill, it is up to the agency to determine if additional requests are duplicative or similar in nature. Unless the requester does their research, and presents a laser sharp request, the DoH will not provide an adequate answer. If the requester then revises the request so that it is more precise, the DoH will consider it “duplicative or similar” and will not be required to answer it under the new law.
It is not clear from reading the new law that the a requester can still appeal to the OIP. Since the language is absent, I believe the OIP appeal process is still in effect. It will not however affect the final outcome. The OIP has went on record that due to some HI Supreme Court case that is affecting its available resources, that it will not investigate and force the DoH to comply with requests regardless if the record exists and the DoH is required by law to release. It will only issue advisory opinions. In short, the OIP will accept at face value whatever response the DoH provides.
We need to focus our energies elsewhere going forward.
I have not made a request to any HI state dept. So, if P&E News needs someone to make a request for them, I volunteer. You write it up and I’ll sign and send it for you. Make it a well worded request because, thanks to the State of HI, you’ll only get one chance through me. ;) (Perhaps other readers will volunteer to do the same for P&E News. ???)
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: We might need some volunteers to do that. I will review what we’ve received and what we’re still waiting for and let you know. Thank you.
If I get the oppty to help you guys, it’ll be my pleasure. Just so you know, I don’t check my email daily, sometimes not for a full week. So, if you email and I don’t respond to it, yet then you see me posting here, I’m not ignoring your request; I’m just ignoring my email…again. If that happens, just respond to my latest comment here and tell me to check my email.
“we wish you the very best between now and the trial”……What does that mean?
Does the “Post & Email” know,or,supect something we don`t?
Jerry Alexander
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: No, when I made the comment, it was to wish him well in his final preparations for the upcoming trial. Nothing more and nothing less.
My hat is off to Pastor Manning. Courageous and articulate…a true Statesman that has stood like a jack*** in a hail storm, trusting in God to sustain him because he knows that what he speaks is truth!
Well let’s not just stand by while this re-founder defends our constitutional republic by himself. We can do a lot to support this effort. Turn your hearts to God in prayer! What do you think has gotten us in this fix? We have gotten consumed by lies, deception & subversion. We, as a society have been addicted to lies. Who is the father of deception? We must also demand proper and fair coverage of this momentous event! Write, call, protest the LSM before, during and after this TRIAL! If they don’t cover it…WE THE PEOPLE make ourselves heard. If they try to demonize it (and they will)…WE THE PEOPLE show them that we no longer believe their lies.
Read Reverend Mannings words again and hear the faith that he has expressed. Only faith in our Creator could ever be so unwavering, because it is He that is lifting this David’s countenance.
Let’s let the Media and our public officials know what we expect even the week before May 14th. Then let’s not let up until they surrender that WE THE PEOPLE have all the standing we need. For the record, “standing” is a legal fiction conceived by the officers of the courts to subordinate the sovereign citizens of the States to the will of the government via the judiciary. It is time WE THE PEOPLE took a stand and reminded the judiciary, the media and the criminals in D.C. who they all serve.
Is this story a plant or a leak or a diversion?
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Obama Family: “Barack Obama Sr Married Anna Toot in Hawaii” “Their union produced B. Obama Jr.”
All Africa ^ | 15 August 2004 | John Oywa
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:35:01 PM by bushpilot1
“According to the family, Obama’s father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959.
While there, he worked for an oil company and married his second wife, a white woman, named Anna Toot, and their union produced Barack Obama Jr.
Obama’s book says Obama Snr left his family in Hawaii after winning a scholarship to study in Harvard when his son was two years old.
The marriage later broke up after Anna’s father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.
“Anna’s father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage,” remembers Sarah.”
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html(Excerpt) Read more at allafrica.com …
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: I just tried the link, and the story seems to have been removed. I wonder why? Does anyone have a screenshot of the story?
I got to it through the site and copied the URL:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Fantastic! Thank you!
OK this perplexes me…
Obama called his grandma “toot”…or DID he? Maybe that notion was a plant to throw off the fact that there is someone named Anna Toot?
Or maybe it’s a planted distraction?
“Barack has deep roots here. He once told me he has two homes – Kenya and the United States, she says happily”
How can one be the Natural Born Citizen of 2 countries?
The obviuous Obot conclusion here is that both mama Sarah and Michelle Obama are liars.
This gets better every day.
Try this:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html
Looks the same but it just worked for me.
Well, old man Dunham sure appeared happy to stand with Barky Sr upon the younger man’s arrival in HI. Who knew the old man met Barky Sr before Miss “Anna Toot” met him? http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2007/02/09/image2455630.jpg
tminu, I agree that the article is BS, but, just like everything about Obamao, whether it’s a plant, a leak or a diversion is anyone’s guess at this point.
I can tell you that I was in a relationship with a pathological relationship all through my 20s (yeah, I was a stupid girl) and there were many times that, caught in a lie, he’d “confess” the “truth.” His “confession,” however, was another lie, usually something pretty damned bad but not as horrible as whatever he’d really done (which always, always came to light eventually). So, this could be a leaked lie, something pretty damned bad (with all blame for misdeeds going to his deceased parents and grandad, and none to him, of course, as he was just an innocent baby then, a victim of his grandad’s racism). He could be planning to “confess” to the American people “the truth” about his past that he’s been hiding, his “confession” being yet another lie or pack of lies to replace the lies already told.
First sentence of the last paragraph should read: I can tell you that I was in a relationship with a pathological liar all through my 20s… Yeah, it most likely was a Freudian slip.
That photo is a proven photoshop. That head of Obama Sr. is taken from a party picture and is stuck on a white guy’s body using the leis as a photoshop bandaid.
Sharon Rondeau: Have you looked at these??
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2458646/posts
Obama is a 100% concocted fraud from soup to nuts. He never went to Columbia, he never was in any manner Editor of Harvard Law Review other than by purchased title, he never went to any classes legitimately at Harvard, he never had a real job at Sidley Austin it was a “check the resume box” plant, he probably bought his law license IF he ever had one…DO NOT TRUST A SINGLE PHOTO OR FACTOID ABOUT OBAMA UNLESS INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED BY COURT-VETTED MATERIALS
NEARLY ALL HISTORIC PHOTOS OF OBAMA ARE PROVEN PHOTOSHOPS
Yeah, tminu, my remark about old man Dunham was tongue in cheek. One doesn’t have to be a professional to see the photos are doctored. It’s either that, or all of the Obamessiah’s people used to have very large heads.
tminu, I searched “Anna Toot” on Bing and found this: http://theobamafile.lefora.com/2008/07/13/anna-anna-toot-is-the-candidates-birth-name-barry-/
If that, too, isn’t BS, then someone else discovered and talked about it in 2008. Because it’s called The Obama Files Forum and belongs to someone who goes by Beckwith, one would think it belongs to the Beckwith of The Obama Files here: http://theobamafile.com/ReadMe.htm The problem with that is that a search for toot at the latter linked site doesn’t return anything about a “Anna Toot.” I so distrust the Obamao machine that I actually believe they’d create a fake archive of one of their detractors’ web sites/forum. I hate that I’ve become this paranoid.
It’s very wise to be paranoid when riding motorcycles at high speeds on wet pavement and when dealing with all things Obama.
Bill Cutting, I think that article was originally written from the point of view that Oblowme was born in Kenya:
Agitated villagers are waiting in awe. What if Obama wins the Senate seat in the November 2 elections? Will he return home with bags of dollars?
(snip)
“We don’t expect a whole Senator to drive to his home village. We expect him to fly direct and land at Nyang’oma,” says George Onyango, a 20-year-old barber.
(snip)
Barack has deep roots here. He once told me he has two homes – Kenya and the United States, she says happily.
Tracing Obama’s home was a simple task. The home, located some 60 km from Kisumu town, is well known in Alego.
I think it was later edited to reflect a Kenyan heritage instead of a Kenyan birth. It wasn’t, however, edited well. For example, the third paragraph:
With his cousin Yusuf Okoth Obama, when he visited his father’s home in Alego, Siaya, 10 years ago. e
Yes, it ends with a lower-case “e.” Looks like the mistake of someone doing some sloppy edit work to an older piece that s/he doesn’t really believe anyone will ever look at again. I read the first four paragraphs without that bit and it reads very well, so well, in fact, that I’m positive that bit was added later, obviously only part of a statement or paragraph as it’s only a sentence fragment ending with a period and then followed by that odd lower-case “e.” The bit is most likely added in the wrong place of the article, too. Sloppy, sloppy work that was done by someone who, for whatever reason, didn’t care. Hmmmm…or maybe the English version was edited by someone who’s not literate in English but who thought they did okay following the instructions given to them in another language like – oh, say – whatever it is that’s spoken in Kenya.
I, too, am a white American, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Reverend Manning is a true patriot. I can’t stand BHO… he is nothing but a liar and a thief and deserves to have the light of justice shown upon him. He and Pelosi, Reid, etal., must be brought to justice and the balance of this land must be restored! God will have a hand in justice!
I love this interview. It’s so great.
Mrs. Rondeau,
I believe this is your best interview to date, IMHO. It certainly appears that Dr. Manning has a clear and concise plan to deliver justice to the American people one and for all. Unless there is irrefutable evidence, the only thing that comes across as “fringe” is the alleged CIA/Afghanistan/Moscow connections.
One surefire way to get the LSM to sit up and pay attention once and for all is to get Blagojevich to show up. While his alleged crimes were egregious to say the least, he definitely had partners in crime inside the Administration. He certainly has an axe to grind with Obama and he might have inside knowledge regarding Obama’s roots. No way, no how can the LSM ignore his presence and testimony. If they do, then we are in much deeper trouble than I thought.
Does anyone know if Andy Martin actually traveled to HI? I looked at the status of SB2937 this morning and the final vote in both chambers was deferred to today.
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Mrs. Rondeau replies: Thank you, and we will continue investigating these aspects of the eligibility issue.
Let’s just wait for real evidence before we get excited about anything. I’d like to believe a lot of things, but after studying the issues and evidence since October 2008, I have come to the realization that emotions mean nothing. Real, hard evidence with investigative planning does. It is the only thing that yields results. Otherwise, you’re just on an emotional roller coaster, at the whims of a country, congress and people who will pull you in and let you down, over and over again.
No argument here. I agree all of this means nothing unless Dr. Manning presents solid objective evidence in support of his claims. It is at least it a far more articulate and a well planned approach than anything Andy Martin has done so far.
I believe the roller coaster emotions just come from clinging to any glimmer of hope that we can dispose of this usurper as expediently as possible and before he does any more real damage. The bills and executive orders he signs into law are of course null and void if removed from office, but turning back the clock to January 19th, 2009 will by no means be easy.
I agree. It would be great if Manning’s videos were transcribed into written format for easier searchability.
ManningLakin2012
Ooh – I like it! Two real patriots – Now that’s real “Hope and Change” I can believe in.
Whether or not the Barry administration has responded to this, they are undoubtably worried. I too have the greatest respect for Rev. Manning and his efforts to uncover the truth about the total fraud who is “Barack Obama”.
I will be listening and watching this trial, and I pray for the Rev. Manning’s safety.
All I can say is WOW! Dr. Manning hit all the right notes and is a man I’d be privileged to vote for President. He is a true statesman and American. I wish it were possible to be there in NYC to help out with the trial some way. But the best thing any of us can do is to support Dr. Manning and all those participating in the trial by our prayers and for a hedge of protection to be put around all those who are standing up for truth, justice and the rule of law. So many of us have been praying for God to raise up someone with the courage, conviction and fortitude to expose that “long-legged mack daddy” and if it is not Dr. Manning, I do not know who it could be. He is not just a man of incredible fortitude, but a man of intelligence and insight.
Let everyone who cares about the travesty that is usurping our White House (to say nothing about Congress and the courts) pray for the truth to be exposed by this trial. For at least 18 months I’ve been praying that God would let the truth be revealed, regardless of the cost. Dr. Manning gets it. We need truth, the country will heal. But without truth, we will rot from within.