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by Sharon Rondeau

Carl Gallups hosts “Freedom Friday” every week from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. ET/4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. CT. He is also pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, FL and the author of several books on Biblical prophesy.

(Jan. 26, 2016) — “Freedom Friday” host Carl Gallups was a guest during the first hour of the Bill Martinez Live show on Tuesday morning speaking about his recent trip to Arizona, where he met with Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph M. Arpaio and Mike Zullo, the lead investigator of a probe into the long-form birth certificate image posted on the White House website purported to be Barack Hussein Obama’s.

The segment begins at approximately 6:09 of the podcast.

Gallups’s initial phone connection was not clear, and while Martinez’s producers attempted to recontact him, Martinez said that Obama “presented to us – we the people – a birth certificate that’s invalid” (approx. 8:00).  “The truth matters…” Martinez stated, after which he brought Gallups back in on a better connection.

Gallups began by saying that he believes that “the naysayers, the operatives” were “extremely successful” in silencing questions about Obama’s background during his first presidential campaign.  Gallups reminded Martinez and the audience that although the pejorative “birther” might still be used against anyone doubting Obama’s life story and alleged birthplace in Hawaii, it was the Hillary Clinton campaign which reportedly first floated the notion that Obama was “born in Kenya.”  “She’s the one who started the whole thing,” Gallups said.

He recounted that Clinton lost the Democrat primary and eventually met with Obama “behind closed doors.”  Obama was reported the primary winner and went on to become the Democrat presidential nominee.

After he was sworn in, Obama nominated Clinton for Secretary of State.  “They knew she had the information,” Gallups contended, indicating that her position at State following her confirmation was a “consolation prize.”

Martinez speculated that Clinton was allowed to use a “private server,” the details of which have been the focus of an FBI investigation which has reportedly concluded that enough evidence exists of criminal activity to indict her, as a special privilege.

At 14:28, the show resumed following a commercial break.

“Why is it that almost eight years later, we’re still asking the same questions?” Martinez asked in regard to Obama’s background.  Gallups said that “everybody” in the U.S. media “has been shut down” and “threatened by government operatives…to stay away from the birth certificate issue or else.”  Gallups rhetorically asked why that would happen if the person in the Oval Office were legitimate.

“Why would you present a document that is bogus?” Martinez rejoined.

Gallups said that “his [Obama’s] operatives” threatened the mainstream media and that Obama’s first press secretary, Robert Gibbs, said during a press conference that long-form birth certificates were no longer issued in Hawaii as a way to explain why Obama had not released the document to the public.

“Finally, when Donald Trump, of all people, came forward and began questioning it in the public, all of a sudden, Barack Obama’s people found a long-form birth certificate,” Gallups said, which “immediately began to undergo forensics.”

Gallups then referred to the criminal investigation Arpaio launched through his Cold Case Posse into the long-form birth certificate image in September 2011 and is still ongoing.

Martinez commented that Zullo has been a guest on his show in the past.

Of the findings thus far, at 19:01, Martinez commented that “Mike can’t be reckless, and Sheriff Joe cannot be reckless at any point, with this information.  It has to be evidentiary, right?” to which Gallups responded that he is “privy to so much of what they know” and “I know for a fact that they have run into dead ends.”

“All crime begins with a conspiracy,” Gallups explained, then recounted occasions when Zullo had been a guest on his show and said, “I don’t have a dog in this fight.”

Martinez recalled that Arpaio had commissioned the posse to launch its probe after approximately 250 Maricopa County residents had requested it.  “He did it expecting to find that the birth certificate was entirely legitimate,” Gallups explained, referring to Arpaio.

“Zullo came back to him after a few weeks…and he said, ‘This is a forgery; this is a fake; this is a fabrication,'” Gallups said of how the investigation began.

“There is a mountain of evidence piling up that there is a big, deep, dark hole…” Gallups said of Zullo’s characterization of the investigation’s current status.  Of his visit with Arpaio, Gallups said, “We talked in detail…and he assures me that there will be a press conference coming sooner rather than later.”

“I know he’s going to bring something forward,” Gallups concluded.

Martinez is one of only a handful of radio show hosts who have been willing to speak about the birth certificate investigation.

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