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IF THE RECORDS WEREN’T THERE, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM?

by Sharon Rondeau

The Hawaii Great Seal contains elements of the former Kingdom of Hawaii Coat of Arms

(Apr. 29, 2011) — In July 2009, CNN President Jon Klein stated that the vital records belonging to Barack Hussein Obama could not be obtained because the Hawaii Department of Health had discarded original paper birth records in 2001.

Klein told some members of the staff of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that no one should have a “legitimate beef” over Obama’s failure to release his birth certificate because it was no longer available.

Other members of the media continued for more than two years to insist that the short-form image posted in 2008 was Obama’s complete birth certificate.  There were several different versions of the Certification of Live Birth, and the certificate number was originally blacked out.

However, the website for the Hawaii Department of Health mentions releasing “certified copies” of paper documents to eligible requesters, not electronic documents which would occur in a paperless environment.

If the Hawaii Department of Health had “gone paperless” in 2001, as claimed by CNN President Jon Klein, where did the image come from which was produced by the White House on Wednesday?

Where did the Certification of Live Birth come from which former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs claimed was Obama’s “birth certificate?”

The HDOH also maintains that a person must have a “direct and tangible interest in the record” to obtain a certified copy of it.  The law firm of Perkins & Coie reportedly made arrangements for Obama to obtain his long-form birth certificate from the Health Department on Obama’s behalf.  But why did it take an attorney to obtain the alleged document?  Why couldn’t Obama have done it himself using the simple request form from the Hawaii Department of Health’s website?

The application instructions for requesting a certified copy of a record online state clearly that electronic copies are not issued.  Why, then, did CNN’s president imply that since 2001, that was the procedure?  Where did he obtain his information?

From the Hawaii Department of Health:

Who is Eligible to Apply for Certified Copies of Vital Records?

A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons are considered to have such an interest:

  • the registrant (the person whom the record is concerned with);
  • the registrant’s spouse;
  • the registrant’s parent(s);
  • a descendant of the registrant (e.g., a child or grandchild);
  • a person having a common ancestor with the registrant (e.g., a sibling, grandparent, aunt/uncle, or cousin);
  • a legal guardian of the registrant;
  • a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
  • a personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
  • a person whose right to obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
  • adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
  • a person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
  • a person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
  • a person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.

If you are not able to establish a direct and tangible interest in the record, you are ineligible and will not be issued a certified copy of the record.

Other news reports from Hawaii have confirmed the Department of Health’s defense of the state’s privacy laws in regard to vital records.

What “direct and tangible interest” did Attorney Judith Corley have in Obama’s birth certificate?  She does not appear to meet any of the above criteria upon which the Health Department has relied to deny numerous UIPA requests made over at least the last three years.

If quoted correctly, Corley also lied when she said that Obama “doesn’t have a lot of personal legal issues.”  There have been numerous lawsuits filed over the lack of proof that Obama meets the eligibility requirements of “natural born Citizen,” and more than 3,000 treason complaints have been filed against him.  One lawsuit filed by Dr. Alan Keyes, a former 2008 presidential candidate, has been granted a hearing on the merits of the case on May 2, 2011.  How, then, could Corley seriously say that he “doesn’t have a lot of personal legal issues?”

Why did Corley have to personally travel to Hawaii to obtain the alleged documents?  Was it because release of certified copies normally takes 4-6 weeks?

There is no evidence that an official change in “administrative rules” at the Hawaii Department of Health has been enacted which would deny an eligible requester access to his or her government-maintained record.  Even if there had been, administrative rules would not take precedence over the law passed by the Hawaii legislature in 1988 requiring disclosure of government records.  Therefore, the Department of Health’s recent denial of certified copies, as promised on its website, is illegal.

The claim made by Hawaii Health Department Director Loretta Fuddy that the issuance of only “computer copies” to a requester was established “departmental policy” is not found anywhere in Hawaii law.  Fuddy claimed that she was making an exception due to Obama’s “status.”

If Obama’s original birth record was held by the Hawaii Department of Health since doubts began to swirl about his birthplace, why was it not released then?  Why were so many requests made under Hawaii’s UIPA law which were not even related to Obama denied or stonewalled?

Why was the wording on the Hawaii Democrat Party’s nomination form changed in 2008 and the DNC relied upon to provide the statement that Obama and Biden were constitutionally eligible to serve?  And why did Tim Adams, a former Hawaii Elections Office supervisor during the 2008 election cycle, state in an affidavit that his supervisors had said that it was common knowledge that there “was no long-form birth certificate” of Obama’s held by the state of Hawaii.

Why have some people received copies of their long-form birth certificate and others been denied?

There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution which states that being born on U.S. soil is enough to satisfy the “natural born Citizen” requirement placed in Article II, Section 1 before the adoption of the Constitution in 1787.  Even the 14th Amendment, which many claim renders Obama eligible under Article II and which largely dealt with freed slaves following the American Civil War, refers to “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”  It says nothing about “natural born Citizen.”  The exception “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” would not have applied to Obama because his father was a British citizen; therefore, Obama was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at his birth.

A report from USA Today claimed that the original birth certificate was two pages, not one.

The alleged document has not been shown in paper form, nor does it resemble a long-form birth certificate released on March 15, 2011 to another requester.  Hawaii Health Department Director Loretta Fuddy stated that the form is a copy of Obama’s original document rather than a computer-generated composite.

 

Letter written to Barack Obama affirming that she had the "legal authority to approve the process by which copies of such records are made."
First page of letter from Perkins Coie requesting "two certified copies" of Obama's original certificate of live birth. The image shown to the public on April 27 did not contain an embossed seal.
Page 2 of Perkins Coie letter
Obama's letter stating that he wanted "two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth"

Some letters on White House stationery show an embossed seal, while others do not.  A “letter” allegedly signed by Obama sent to Kapiolani Medical Center which the hospital later removed from its website and refused to allow Hawaii State Senator Sam Slom to see did not, and after analysis of the source code, was shown to be a combination of HTML codes rather than a scan of a real document.

Is Kapiolani Medical Center aware that a crime has been perpetrated and either participated in that crime or done nothing about it?  When The Post & Email asked them to confirm that Obama was born there following the release of the image on the internet and on mainstream media, Kapiolani responded that it could make no comment due to privacy laws and that there would be no interviews granted to the press.

If employees of Kapiolani, the Hawaii Health Department, and Obama’s personal lawyer know that Obama’s documentation is not legitimate or that he has lied about his past to the American people to purposely deceive them, are they not committing misprision of felony?

Some are claiming that the image released on April 27, 2011 is a forgery.  When Dr. Fukino told MSNBC that “what he [Obama] got, everybody got,” it was refuted by Miki Booth, whose son had requested a certified copy of his birth certificate and received something different than the original image purported by Factchek.org and Politifact to be Obama’s “birth certificate.”  The Booth document contained a raised seal and was titled “Certificate of Live Birth,’ while Obama’s did not contain a seal and was titled “Certification of  Live Birth.”

Contradicting Governor Neil Abercrombie, Fukino had told MSNBC’s Michael Isikoff that Obama’s “record of live birth absolutely exists.”  She also contended that Obama’s original birth certificate was “half typed and half handwritten,” but the image released on April 27 did not appear to match that description.

 

Scan of image released by the White House purported to be a "certified copy" of his original, long-form birth certificate from Hawaii

Miki Booth has also shown a copy of her son’s long-form birth certificate from 1981 which contained spaces for the signatures of both parents rather than one, as shown on the image released by the White House on Wednesday.

The Booth document shows spaces for the signatures of both parents, while Obama’s shows a line just for the mother.  There were fewer divorces in 1961, so why was there no line for the father’s signature on the form but there was in 1981?

The mainstream media have overwhelmingly gone to bat for the authenticity of the “document” released on Wednesday, claiming that those demanding to see it are racist or childish.  However, on April 28, 2011, Eric Bolling of the Fox Business Network had  Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs on as his guest to discuss the authenticity of the image presented by the White House.  The style of the article is not a straight news story, as the author clearly shows a bias against Geller.

Update: On both Obama’s purported short-form Certification of Live Birth and the image released on April 27, 2011, the father’s race  is described as “African.”  However, the 1961 version of the U.S. Department of Health, Education and Welfare states on page 231:

Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.” The category “white” includes, in addition to persons reported as “white,” those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of “white” and “nonwhite” is used.

The White House website stated that Obama had requested a copy of his birth certificate in 2008.  However, Factcheck.org had claimed that the document had been released from the Health Department in June 2007.  Why is there a discrepancy, and where is the letter or form Obama purportedly used to make the request, as is required?  The Post & Email had requested a copy of the form from Factcheck.org last year but was ignored.

Not one media outlet or politician will address the fact that Obama’s purported biological father was a British citizen, which should have eliminated Obama from being eligible under Article II.

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  1. Senator Obama, Enough. It’s time to show a simple photocopy or copy from microfiche of the original Hospital generated Long Form Birth Certificate. Not a computer generated ABSTRACT. It’s a problem, isn’t Senator? You can’t show what doesn’t exit.

  2. Just one comment – most of your critique seems accurate.

    You stated: “The Booth document shows spaces for the signatures of both parents, while Obama’s shows a line just for the mother. There were fewer divorces in 1961, so why was there no line for the father’s signature on the form but there was in 1981?”

    The Nordyke twins Certificates of Live Birth the day before Obama was allegedly born, both contain just one line for Parent or Other Informant.
    ———————–
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: That is absolutely correct. However, the article is factual rather than a critique, and I was posing a question which will require more research to answer. Obviously, Hawaii changed its birth record form to include the signatures of both parents at some point, and it would be interesting to know why.

  3. To Jack: I am very sure I remember that the Fight the Smears website said that 0 was a “native born American”. I’m sure there is screen shot of that around somewhere. I remember thinking that was strange because at the time I was just getting aware of what “natural born citizen” meant and wondered why they would have used “native” and not “natural”.

  4. Where is Lucas Smith and his certified copy of obama’s Kenyan birth certificate with length, weight and FOOTPRINT.

    As I recall, Mr. SmMith said he would produce his documentaton at the appropriate time. THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME!stimepudci

  5. you are missing the point. The BC proves Obama was NOT born in any hospital in Hawaii. This is almost proof positive that he was born in Mombasa Kenya.

    You have to calm down and think correctly. The place to start here is here:

    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html

    This is the most important article for everyone to read. Now you have that down. Here are the final missing pieces that complete this 3 year jigsaw puzzle.

    Obama born friday 4th at 7:24 pm. momma remembers that. she jumps on an airplane back to Honolulu right there from Mombasa. She is not happy with Barrack because she found out he has another wife. She is angry and hurt and wants back home with her mother in Honolulu. Well on the clock it only takes 1 day + 3 hours. So she can easy leave on Sat and arrive sunday or fly out sunday to arrive Monday early enought.

    Yes momma picks her up at the airport and drives her to Kapiolani to meet Dr Sinclair. The first question Dr Sinclair asks for the records is When was the baby born. Stanley Ann says at 7:24 pm on Friday Aug 4. So the doctor writes that down. Well it is the correct time and date that he was born in Mombasa Coast Hospital.

    Obama does not have a birth certificate because hospitals give them out. He was not born in Kapiolani so Obama does not have a hospital birth certificate from hawaii. What he has is a doctor examination of the baby on Monday after a Friday birth in Mombasa.

    All the little pieces of the jigsaw fit into place. Obama wants us to stay on the validity of the new LFBC instead of us realizing what it really represents.

    Dr Sinclair did not give birth to Obama. Obama was not born in Kapiolani Hospital.

    OBAMA WAS BORN IN COAST HOSPITAL IN MOMBASA KENYA. HE IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN A CITIZEN OF USA. HE WAS BORN ON BRITISH SOIL TO A BRITISH FATHER WITH A MOTHER TOO YOUNG TO GIVE HIM AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP AT THE TIME IF BORN IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

    OH YES YOU ARE ALSO MISSING PAGE 2 OF THE LFBC that Obama passed out. On page 2 it will show adoptions etc.

    Obama never naturalized when he came back to Hawaii because he never was a US citizen.

    everything now fits into place. the Jigsaw Puzzle is complete.

    1. Where is Lucas Smith and his certified copy of obama’s Kenyan birth certificate with length, weight and FOOTPRINT.

      As I recall, Mr. Smith said he would produce his documentation at the appropriate time. THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME!

      Does anyone know where he is or how to contact him?

    2. Sorry but I simply cannot see a new born being accepted on the plane within a day or two of his birth. Not for such a long trip, not in the sixties. And I cannot see a teenager having just given birth being released from the Hospital and accepted on a plane in such a short time either.

      But didn’t we procure the info that the birth date had been amended? Would the original date have been much earlier and amended later to fit the narrative, ie. Senior being the father?

      By the way does ANYONE has seen Obama celebrating his birthday on August 4 before being POTUS. Children BDay Parties? Former Girlfriends offering gifts? Basketball buddies treated the guy for a BDay drink??? Chicago Staffers blowing Bday cake at the office??

      Just asking.

  6. O looks happy now that he has released his long form birth certificate. Does he really believe that we won’t question it?

    It looks as if a long form birth certificate was created using information taken from the certificate of live birth. One can do a lot of things with the computer, even add or remove information from a document..also, it is not official without the health department seal. It should also say that it is a certified copy of the original document on file, or that it is a certified abstracted copy of the original document on file. And if the original is on file, why not simply make a copy of it and certify that???

    O said he found his birth certificate in a book, and it probably looks a little old with some folds in it. Why not show us that one? But the issue is about his eligibility, and with a Kenyan father, under age mother, adoption by his Indonesian step-father–he can’t possibly meet the Constitutional requirements to be president of the United States, he knows that, and he knew it before the election.

  7. I just received this from a friend. I can’t vouch for the authenticity of it at the present. You can see for yourself and read Devvy Kidd’s notes. Pay close attention especially to the bottom line of the B/C.
    see this one asap download , screen shot etc….
    What are your feelings on this? VERY STRANGE! Read DEVVY’s comments below and what to look for etc.
    ALOHA REPORTER MARCH 2010

    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/
    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/

    ——– Original Message ——– Subject: SHOCK: Is this the real one? A different birth certificate
    Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:56:56 -0700
    From: Devvy’s Email Alerts
    Reply-To: Devvy’s Email Alerts
    To: Devvy’s Email Alerts Subscriber

    (Mailing list information, including unsubscription instructions, is located at the end of this message.)
    __

    This morning I was sent a link to this site- a news site in Hawaii:

    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/

    My jaw dropped to the floor and I’m not kidding.

    Go look at what appears to be Obama/Soetoro’s real birth certificate and it’s NOT the one released on Wednesday.

    Note the date, March 10, 2010

    Notice the signature is of her mother as parent, etc.

    Notice Obama, Sr is listed as Negro – African

    It’s not green paper, but white with black ink more in keeping with what the rest of us have.

    Notice at the bottom where it says:

    Read more …

    Source: AP News / Hawaii Legislature

    AP killed the story.

    Barry jumped on a plane in lSeptember (think that was the month) of 2008 to go see his grandma.

    Notice at the bottom of this B/C it indicates place of birth as Kenya, registered Honolulu per the grandmother.

    Grandma died two months after the visit.

    IF – IF – that is the real birth certificate, the guy in the White House is toast. Gone.

    I’m sure Worldnetdaily and others are trying to verify, but this looks like one of those things when something gets posted into cyber space, it sits there until someone finds it.

    Remember way back when — someone slipped the “little black dress” to Matt Drudge and the rest is history.

    That turned out to be the Monica Lewinsky disaster for Billy Clinton.
    ————————
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: That document came out last summer, I believe, and was debunked as a forgery, as the law cited at the bottom did not exist in 1961.

    1. True Sharon, yet if we use that ruling for debunking than “Kapiolani Medical Center” and “African” shouldn’t be on BC’s for that year either right?

  8. but who is gonna listen.. all the writing e-mails,phone calls, blogging , demonstrations , they arent listening ,who is gonna listen,who is important enough to tell someone important enough who will even bother to listen , and by the time they do it will be to late he will either win or loose election and retire and we are stuck with the bs he left us!

  9. Here is the Hawaiian Statute for children born out of state:

    [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

    (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

    This statute provides an avenue for out of state, or out of country births to be registered in Hawaii — that is what Obama’s half-sister, Maya, did. She also has a Certificate of Live Birth, being born in Indonesia. Obama’s mother registered his birth in Hawaii — there is no doubt he was born in Kenya. The grandmother stated this and an old lady who is answering questions contemporaneously would not lie (even if her translator lied — she did not – and she never changed her statement that she “was present” at his birth).
    Also see statute: 338-5.
    Also – Obama stated in his book that he was in possession of his “birth certificate” so why did he have to ask for it from Hawaii? (He most probably only has his Kenyan birth certificate). Also- each member of Congress was mailed a copy of this Kenyan birth certificate.
    Analysis by experts prove that the image of Obama’s new certificate is photoshopped. I even copied and pasted it from the White House web site and all that gets pasted is a mostly BLANK form – the one they used to forge this document. Try it yourself – it proves it’s a fake.

  10. Apparently a Hospital issues a Birth Certificate because the baby is born in the hospital not at the Hawaii Registry Office.

    Obama does not have a Birth Certificate because he was NOT born at a hospital in Hawaii. So he gets State issued paperwork. Momma took baby Obama to the doctor at Kapiolani Hospital some time after the birth and had him registered.

    More indications that the Lucas Smith BC is authentic. At least it can not be ruled out. We can however definitely rule that Obama was definitely NOT born at any hospital in Hawaii.

    You can real all about it at the Daily Pen. If you read it then you will understand what happened. I suggest he was born in Kenya and rushed back to Hawaii. That best fits all the evidence now.

    http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/out-of-order-obamas-non-sequential.html

    Contrary to recent implications, new evidence supports that Barack Obama was not actually delivered in Kapi’olani hospital, as records suggest, but, rather, he was merely examined there by a private practitioner, David Sinclair, in the days following his birth, which triggered the validation of an administratively issued “Certificate of Live Birth” registration, not a hospital generated birth certificate representing an actual delivery.

    1. Which explains why Kapiolani Medical Center will not confirm his birth at their facility. The birth did not take place there.

  11. Wow, this is an interesting point.
    New fake Birth certificate says the following:
    (1) Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961
    (2) Barack Hussein Obama as his father
    (3) Obama’s father age 25 years old, Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”.
    Kenya, East Africa did not exist in 1961!!!
    Kenya did not exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth.
    It was known as “British East Africa Protectorate” in 1961.
    More info here.
    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/wayne-madsen-foreign-intelligence-agencies-say-obama-birth-certificate-is-fake/
    ___________

  12. It appears that the long form contains information e.g. the birth time and the dates of the signatures identical to that of the Kenyan one exposed back in 2009. http://divine-ripples.blogspot.com/2011/04/obamas-bc-reflects-kenyan-data-see-for.html

    So, whoever forged this, copied the Kenyan one. I would think because it could not have been the other way around, Kenyan fake copied US info, because of the US legal restrictions around this document as you described.

  13. our inalienable rights

    see a short but full discussion here http://www.gemworld.com/USA-Unalienable.htm

    “Unalienable: incapable of being alienated, that is, sold and transferred.” Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, page 1523:

    Inalienable rights: Rights which are not capable of being surrendered or transferred without the consent of the one possessing such rights. Morrison v. State, Mo. App., 252 S.W.2d 97, 101

    My Constitution says my rights are Unalienable. They can not be sold or transferred even by me. They were given me by god and people have no power over that which is given to me by god.

    Good thing mine are not inalienable or the marxist Obama commies could take them away claiming I gave permission. For example bankrupted the Jews sold themselves into slavery to the Egyptians.

    1. If Obama’s attorney sent a letter to Hawaii to request the birth certificate does he have a certified postal return or reciept as a normal procedure in this case?

  14. 2011-04-27 you tube. I thought this Video was very conviencing. He shows right on his computer screen how to see for yourself. He believes the document has been modified, from an original document. Uploaded by kdenninger on Apr 27, 2011

  15. Bo has stooped to the lowest level. His forgers apparently got that background, with the same curl, reason for that little black corner at the top and those letters on the side and handwritten numbers around it. They made a template from Susan Nordyke’s online birth certificate and I am guessing they got the doctor’s signature from the birth certificate Miki Booth has online for her son with that same signature. This is the most criminal ever. Bo should be in prison for claiming a forgery to be his birth certificate. I hope people all around the world see this

    http://noiri.blogspot.com/

    1. That is Dr. Sinclair’s signature but it didn’t come from Alan’s birth certificate. But I wouldn’t doubt it came from someone else’s. What you say is EXACTLY what I thought the moment I saw BO’s forgery. I went directly to Alan’s copy to check that.

  16. I found this in some of my old files when I used to spend hours a day researching the FRAUD and his LIES….he admits this in his book and in the SR511 resolution he was a part of….now he would like us to believe this is NOT SO…..and the BEAT GOES ON AND ON AND ON….

    Obama admits he is native born, but he does not admit that he is natural born because he admits he was born British.
    Native born is not natural born. All native born means is born in-country. A native is a natural born citizen, however because both of the parents are citizens of the country, or pre-originated the country.
    Every permutation is in the 14th amendment defining citizen, save for one, that for natural born citizen (born in-country to two parent citizens aka jus soli jus sanguinis both parents). Article II differentiates citizen from natural born citizen, only the latter being eligible for president. Minor v Happersett holds that the definition of natural born citizen is also not in the 14th amendment.
    Since jus soli jus sanguinis both parents is the only possible combination remaining, it is obviously the definition of natural born citizen.
    Aristotle, a student of Plato, wrote about what a natural born citizen was. The Greeks through to Vattell to the founders who knew the definition, unchanged through thousands of years, of the term “natural born citizen”.
    JUS SOLI
    JUS SANGUINIS (both parents)
    even Obama agrees in SR511

    1. jacqlynsmith;

      I agree with your comment. I just re-read SR 511 here, just curious, do you have a link to osamba admitting he is native born? thanx!

      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=sr110-511

      excerpt from SR 511;
      “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizen(S) on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it

      Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”

  17. Dear Mrs. Rondeau: The title following Hawaii Health Department Director Loretta Fuddy name is ACSW which means she is or was a Masters degree Social Worker. Seems odd for Director of Hi Health Dept? Also why was it neccesary for a WH atty to fly to HI to pick up the documents. It would have much cheaper to overnite them by FedX.
    Everthing about this story smells very fishy. I say trust but verify.

    1. Black-he stood before the world and claimed it was his bc. He owns it now. He had a temper tantrum and in his hurry he forgot the implications of showing who his father is. If his father is someone else, he proves he lied-again! He is not a natural born citizen and is a usurper. We need ther nearest sheriff to handcuff him and take him away.

  18. Mrs. Rondeau,
    Again, you have proven your incredible natural abilities as a truth seeking investigative journalist. You repeatedly demonstrate your skill at staying on point and focused on the important issues while not being distracted by BS. And yes, NBC is and always will be THE most important issue we face.
    Mr. Trump is claiming and getting most of the accolades for forcing barry to dance, and I’m OK with that because it is true that it probably wouldn’t have happened without him, and for that I am eternally grateful. Also, recognition is part of what drives Mr. Trump, and to that I say, more power to him.
    However, I would also like to express my and my families eternal gratitude to all the thousands of hard working, dedicated American Patriots who have fought tirelessly for the past 3 years in the face of untold abuse to expose the usurper and all of the fraud and corruption in our government…they did not do it for accolades or recognition, they have and continue to fight because they love America and her Constitution. Their refusal to quit, is now finally bearing fruit. Thanks to you all!…God bless America!
    ———————-
    Mrs. Rondeau replies: I think Obama’s ascension to the White House, in the face of the many questions about his constitutional eligibility, has awakened many Americans to our founding documents, our inalienable rights, and to the realization that we all need to participate if we are to keep freedom alive. We cannot fear government nor the results of asking questions, and we need to be ever-vigilant.

      1. Not at all sir, in fact I’m sure all the dedicated American Patriots would welcome your support and “AMEN”! It is truly an awesome thing to watch the American spirit awaken, organize and coalesce into an army of “Citizen Soldiers” fighting against our “domestic enemies”! “Vote Trump, and dump the chump”!

  19. Time will tell–or maybe not–but at this point it seems that the HI bc is not a photocopy of an original record. Rather, it appears to be a composite purporting to be an abstract of an original record. Perhaps someone in the HI DoH pulled together disparate elements to computer-create the needed document. Whatever happened, why is there no official state seal on a certified copy?

    And remember, the bc is only one of many eligibility factors to consider, including a competing bc from Kenya. This is a serious and multifaceted matter that demands investigation by Congress. But Congress is complicit in Obama’s fraud and will not incriminate itself.

    1. The following are on-line dictionary definitions of the word “abstract”. The Barry BC just released, (created?), says it is “a true copy or an abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health”. I believe we can be sure from, among other things, the Nordyke twins BC, that what we are seeing is not a copy of the original, but an abstract.

      I looked up “abstract” and these are definitions of the word. If someone is trying to prove anything, how can an “abstract” work? The very definition of the word says “not believable”.

      Also, has anyone determined if the U K Le Lee signature is maybe a hint from the forgers that even they are tired of Barry, or is it real?

      Definition

      ab·stract To hear the pronunciation, install SilverlightADJECTIVE

      1. not concrete: not relating to concrete objects but expressing something that can only be appreciated intellectually
      2. theoretical: based on general principles or theories rather than on specific instances
      “abstract arguments”
      3. arts nonrepresentational: not aiming to depict an object but composed with the focus on internal structure and form
      4. music conceptual: describes music that is intended to have no programmatic or emotional content
      5. irregularly patterned: decorated with irregular areas of color that do not represent anything concrete
      6. impersonal: emotionally detached or distanced from something

      1ab·stract adj \ab-ˈstrakt, ˈab-ˌ\
      Definition of ABSTRACT
      1a : disassociated from any specific instance b : difficult to understand : abstruse c : insufficiently factual : formal
      2: expressing a quality apart from an object
      3a : dealing with a subject in its abstract aspects : theoretical b : impersonal, detached
      4: having only intrinsic form with little or no attempt at pictorial representation or narrative content
      — ab·stract·ly \ab-ˈstrak(t)-lē, ˈab-ˌ\ adverb
      — ab·stract·ness \ab-ˈstrak(t)-nəs, ˈab-ˌ\ noun

  20. Folks, this is the answer!

    I think I have figured out how this latest Obama/Hawaii con job on this alleged original long form BC got so messed up. It’s the only thing that makes any sense.

    All of the letters of request over-emphasize the fact they are requesting and dealing with certified copies of the original long form birth certificate and in Fuddy’s response she states “Through that authority, in recognition of your status as President of the United States, I am making an exception to the current departmental policy which is to issue a computer-generated certified copy,” and goes on to state these are copies of your original Certificate of Live Birth.

    All of this paperwork was produced and carried out just to set the stage for the White House show while the truth is, the computer-generated BC had already been created via the White House crooks in coordination with the Hawaiian crooks and already existed in the WH computer.

    With the letters return, hand-out copies was produced and the glorious con job show took place.

    Their big mistake was that they put the faked up document on the White House web site without flattening out the layers.

    This is the only thing that makes sense and it’s tied around Obama’s very own neck.

    Your thoughts?

    Bob Quinn
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    Mrs. Rondeau replies: I don’t understand why Obama didn’t hold up the paper document himself during the press conference and have the cameras zoom in and show close-ups of the various sections. In my opinion, that would have been more convincing than his standing there saying that he’s done with “silliness.” He is the fool for not being willing to release anything dating back to 2007.

    1. With all the resources available to the “president,” I’m not convinced this is just a bad forgery, but more like a bad forgery on purpose. the question is, why?

    2. He may have not held it up to the camera because what his lawyer got copies of is not what he released via that “assembled” PDF document. Maybe what he got from Hawaii was copies of the half types have written birth registration document with an annotation on it somewhere that this was amended at some point in time when Obama was legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro and had his legal name changed to Barry Soetoro. Thus Obama could not show that. I would have looked way to different than the PDF shown. With his lawyer picking up the copies Hawaii can say … yes we gave Obama’s reps the copies. But have the Hawaiian authorities and officials been asked on the record to confirm that the image on the internet of Obama’s long form is EXACTLY a true and correct copy of what they gave to Obama’s representative and lawyer. The Hawaiian officials have never made such a statement to confirm the validity of the CERTIFICATION short form COLB. I await to hear more out of the Hawaiian Health Dept about the veracity of the image shown on the net. Just passing along some thoughts and concerns given how duplicitous and non-transparent the deceiver-in-chief has been over the last three years. I don’t think he’s changed his stripes yet. I’m waiting for another shoe to drop on this latest document image.

      1. HDOH Director Fuddy’s letter of Certification Confirmation is a forgery waiting to happen. Without stamp or seal on the document itself, it would require personal testimony from the Director every time the document is shown. This is NOT the normal process in use for certifying a document. The usual process requires some sort of Stamp or Seal on the document itself, with an authorizing signature testifying to the Authenticity of the document.
        Not that it is at all surprising given the way HDOH sets their own policy in violation of Hawaii Statutes and piles lies on top of lies like a child stacking blocks – sooner or later the whole thing will topple over and the truth will come out. I hope I am still living when that day comes.
        ELmo

    1. Perkins-Coie Seattle is same law firm that sent “intern” to judge carter office vs Orly Taitz. Bobby Bauer now is in white house next to dunham.

    2. What really needs to be confirmed is what did the HDOH actually give/send to Obama’s attorney — a hard-copy photocopy or a digital image, and if the latter in which file format (*.gif, *.jpg, *.pdf, etc., etc.).

    3. Can someone explain what this means? It’s on the Hawaii Dept. of Health official website. How can they certify the COLB as authentic?

      Headline:

      HAWAI’I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE

      HONOLULU – The Hawai’i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.

      “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai’i,” Hawai’i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai’i.” Continue Reading →

      1. According to the April 27, 2011 NEWS RELEASE from Neil Ambercrombie’s office entitled HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE…

        “On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai„i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment.”

        If HDOH Director Fuddy gave Obama’s designated representative two certified printed on paper (hard-copy) copies of Obama’s long-form “Certificate of Live Birth” then that means someone with direct ties to Obama is responsible for the forgery the White House posted online on Wednesday morning.

    1. I have enclosed a link to a story by WND which compares the “Nordyke” Certificate of Live Birth to The “New Improved” Obama Certificate of Vile Birth (because the two events were so close together it would seem a better comparison than the Miki Booth Document).

      As you can see, there is also only one line for either parent to sign. So, although there are enough problems with the document to go around, it seems to be consistent with the Nordyke document as regards “Signature of Parent or Other Informant”. Hope this helps.
      Link: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=292717
      ELmo

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=292717
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      Mrs. Rondeau replies: Thank you; we are seeking the truth, always.