AS POLITICAL INSIDERS AWAIT OBAMA’S RESPONSE TO NATHAN DEAL
by John Charlton
(Dec. 9, 2009) — Last night Sean Hannity affirmed that the desire of millions of U.S. Citizens to see the real birth certification of Barack Hussein Obama was legitimate.
His argument was, that if Obama was bold enough to vaunt an electronic image to “prove” anything, that he should not be cowardly to hide the real mcoy.
Hannity’s actual comments were quoted by World Net Daily, in an article published nearly 4 hours ago:
“What was so wrong in saying that, ‘Can we see your birth certificate?’ … We were told early on that, in fact, somebody else had looked at it and confirmed that it was legitimate. So, I mean, what was wrong with people saying, ‘Wait a minute. You know what? In light of the fact of where your, your father came from, et cetera, uh, let’s just make sure that this is a legitimate birth certificate’? … It was not asked by the mainstream media. It was asked by places like WorldNetDaily, who, I think, were just doing due diligence considering it’s a constitutional mandate. … I think a lot of people were just afraid to ask the question.”
Hannity’s Comments are revealing
Hannity’s comments are not just significant, because of his exposure as a television personality, but revealing because of what they say and do not say. The Post & Email will therefore comment on them in turn:
“What was so wrong in saying that, ‘Can we see your birth certificate?’ …”
Evidently, this is made in the context of a reporter who has been consistently told by his editors not to mention the topic, and badgered by colleagues who disdain its discussion. It reflects a work environment which is nothing like one in which freedom of speech and the freedom of the press flourish.
It also reflects a professional environment where political correctness has replaced ethical standards and the common sense notions of duty and loyalty to the nation, first and foremost.
“We were told early on that, in fact, somebody else had looked at it and confirmed that it was legitimate.“
Evidently, Hannity admits that he recognized from the beginning the difference between the claim made by the image of the online COLB, published by Obama’s campaign, and the actual document.
Obama’s supporters, however, seem politically obligated or at least mentally afflicted, to such an extent as to deny this distinction.
“So, I mean, what was wrong with people saying, ‘Wait a minute. You know what? In light of the fact of where your, your father came from, et cetera, uh, let’s just make sure that this is a legitimate birth certificate’?”
There is, however, a fundamental error or erroneous concept of the issue, presented here — promoted by World Net Daily too — that the birth certificate alone will resolve the controversy. If the birth certificate proved that his father was another person — say Frank Marshall Davis — a known U.S. citizen, then it would; but as Obama claimed a British subject as his father, if original vital records, whose authenticity were established in court, confirmed this, even if they did also confirm his birth in U.S. territory, then Obama would still be ineligible to hold and exercise the office of President, because he would not be a natural born citizen.
“It was not asked by the mainstream media.”
The understatement of the year.
“It was asked by places like WorldNetDaily, who, I think, were just doing due diligence considering it’s a constitutional mandate.”
Here is the only time Hannity comes close to indicating that he is thinking of the natural born citizen issue, because the Constitution no where requires that a candidate for President be a U.S. citizen, rather it requires that he be a natural born U.S. citizen.
“I think a lot of people were just afraid to ask the question.”
People are only afraid if they:
1) Stand to lose something by asking,
2) Are threatened with adverse action against them if they asked.
3) Or both, such as in the termination of their contract as media personality, or journalist,etc..
One commentator at Free Republic mentioned that in a subsequent interview with Mark Levin, Hannity danced around the issue. Another mentioned that the Main Stream Media have gone into full disinformation mode, by emphasizing the doubts that Trig is the natural son of Sarah Palin.
There is one documented and official reason why Obama won’t show his original birth certificate: he ain’t got one. This was affirmed by Dr. Fukino of the Hawaiian Department of Health in late July of this year, when she stated that the Vital Records office of the State has on file “original vital records”; a detailed analysis of Hawaiian laws shows that only where there is some doubt as to the authenticity of the original filing, or in the case of an adoption or amendment, do there exist more than one original vital record. Why Obama has more than one, lies at the heart of the reason why he won’t reveal them.
See the tags at the end of this article for many more reports on these issues.
Ten years later Obama is still walking around free. Obama should be in the Brig. My new book “Imposters in the Oval Office” should be out soon. Mr. Charlton apparently understood what an NBC is. Born in the US to US Citizen Parents. Hopefully more people will realize that mere birth in the US does not suffice to be President. A President’s parents must both have been US Citizens when said President was born IN the USA. http://www.thepostemail.com/2017/11/19/imposters-oval-office
To GunnyRed ….
Obama’s birth may have been REGISTERED as having occurred in Hawaii, and thus a birth registration of some sort exists in the Hawaii vital records system. But, I do not believe Obama was really, physically born there. Not one piece of independently verifiable contemporaneous evidence and/or witnesses has been brought forward to attest to his birth. No statement was made by Obama’s grandmother in Hawaii when she was alive and could easily have made such a statement if she knew it was true. No hospital records, no doctors, no medical attendants, with attesting signatures to attest to such a birth occurring in Hawaii has ever been shown. And in Kenya we have Obama’s relatives, reporters, and the Kenyan ambassador to the USA acknowledging that Obama was born in Kenya. Listen to this radio discussion on the Bill Cunningham Radio Show as to how Obama’s grandmother in Hawaii and/or mother in Hawaii likely pulled off this scam, the false registration in 1961 of Obama as being born in Hawaii.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZpwcRf3FQ
M Publius Goat
http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=105
Some researchers suspect that Obama was adopted as a foreign-born baby. This would explain why the Hawaii DOH cannot say that they have actually seen the birth certificate, for it would sealed. It would also explain why there are no baby pictures of Obama, except the one showing him by himself on a blanket. This photo is very similar to those taken of babies who were up for adoption. What do you think?
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Mr. Charlton replies: If I were a betting man, I’d read this article and place a bet:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/20/new-evidence-points-to-obama-adoption-%e2%80%94-waif-program/
Glad to see this issue taking shape. The con man with NO experience, just a masters approval for their mischief is going down. He is against our reps by stating he’ll use the EPA over we, the people’s voice (albeit shaky with our current congress, no matter what the letter D/R is at the end) to pass an agenda based on fraudulent data and no common sense.
CO2 is NOT a threat unless you are in a sealed room with nothing but CO2. Anything this guy does is just setting himself up for a fall… well, bigger fall each and every day.
I am not D or R, I just look at the person and what they’ve done, and where their allegiances lie. Party politics serves to divide us and see just how perverted our system of representation has become. Hopefully all the wheels will come off and the people will demand transparency.
If they voted for Cap/Trade, vote em out. Bailouts? Vote em out. Not wanting gore punished? Out. Take our country back.. that doesn’t mean trust the gov, it means let’s begin to question everything and have them PROVE it by releasing data on every bill they concoct.
Within of “The Three Enablers” ad hitting the Washington Times last week, the media and leading spokes person in this country may have FINALLY received the message … their silence is enabling the Putative President and Usurper Obama and his far left, Marxist enablers in Congress, to continue their plan to destroy America and our economic system using the Cloward-Piven Strategy to completely overload our entitlements system even more than it is already, and bankrupt the country. Then the Socialist will take over completely saying they will save the country if they can be given total power. It’s happened before in history with national socialist movements. Socialized medicine and health care is the first step towards socialism and from their ultimately it can lead to totalitarianism. History has shown us that.
This ad and all the controversy it raised in Washington DC political and media circles, right up to and including the White House, is the straw that broke the ice jam of the “cone of silence” on Obama’s eligibility in the Main Stream Media.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/11/obamas-lack-of-eligibility-three.html
I think this ad embarrassed many in the Main Stream Media with its TRUTH, and their complicity in this national disgrace in violating the Constitution, and moved them to start talking about the issue, starting with Obama’s hiding his original birth record, and hopefully that he is hiding all the records of his early life. And next after that is to educate these initial folks speaking out about the true meaning of the term “natural born Citizen” is in the Constitution. Born in the country of parents who were both Citizens of the country. Obama’s father was not a Citizen and thus Obama can never be considered a constitutional “natural born Citizen” of the USA. See these sites for more information about that.
http://www.protectourliberty.org/
M Publius Goat
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Wonder if Hannity pushes the issue he could end up like Lou Dobbs forced to leave the network? But one concern is that the over focus on the birth certificate which I believe was planned by Obama to take us off the key issue that his “father” was never a US citizen thus making him Not a natural born citizen. Still the eligibility issue seldom makes the main stream media and when it does an attorney like Orly Taitz is setup to make the movement look like it is not credible.
Mr. Charlton Why if the obots say that any child born to any United States Citizen is a Natural Born Citizen, then why do we have Congress trying to push thru bills trying to explain this issue. It would be perfectly clear who is eligible and who isn’t!!! This is all bull!!! When I took an American History course in school it was always said
that a Natural Born Citizen is a citizen who has TWO PARENTS WHO WERE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE PARENTS WERE UNITED STATES CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF THEIR BIRTH !!!!!! END OF STORY!!!!!
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Mr. Charlton replies: Aja, I was taught the same thing in civics class in Highschool decades ago. But liars supporting liars always have a difficulty, because while the truth is one, lies are multiple, and it is much too difficult for a band of liars to be consistent with one another.
And this is precisely how Obama and his supporters have been outed as frauds….
It remains to be seen whether Americans still have the guts to take power away from usurpers or whether for video games, tv, and an easy life they will sell their heritage of liberty for pottage…
And the Republicans are complicit in this for two reasons:
1) They put up their own ineligible candidate, McCain, who is not a natural born citizen due to not having been born in the US; and
2) They have a “rising star” for 2012 in Jindal who is not a natural born citizen due to his parents not being citizens at the time of Jindal’s birth.
McCain was born in Panama, and Panama’s constitution considers him a Panamanian citizen at birth. McCain, like Obama, was a dual citizen at birth.
Jindal was born in Louisiana but his parents (legal immigrants from India) were not yet citizens at the time of Jindal’s birth. His parents were still citizens of India when Jindal was born, and so this makes Jindal, like Obama, a dual citizen at birth.
Texoma – Although the R’s have stunk up the place quite a bit with their mirky rendition of conservatism, they played it correct with McCain.
With all do respect, You Are Wrong Sir. McCain was born in Panama on a military base, while his father was serving as an officer in the Navy. Both of his parents were US Citezens and Panama was a US territory, all of this was dealt with, documented, and resolved prior to the campaign, which is when Obama should have dealt with this…..the difference is McCain had nothing to hide so he showed all of the original documents when asked. This is a great civics example that shows our constitution making avenues for our military and veterans to be considered in the mix.
Actually I wish there would have been a way to keep McCain off the ticket. He, while an extreme Patriot, is a perfect picture of what the Republican party have wrong with their idea of what conservative Americans want in their leaders.
Obama might have actually been born in Hawaii just not as a natural-born U.S. citizen. His mother was underage and unable to confer NBC status because she was married to a foreigner. His father was a Brit and hence any offspring of a Brit in 1961 was also a Brit. This explains exactly why no Hawaiian BC has ever been released. The college records probably reflect Obama as an Indonesian or Kenyan and that is why those records are sealed. The only BC that has ever surfaced is from Kenya where his grandmother claimed Obama was born. Any way you look at it the man has never been even once for half-a-second a natural-born U.S. citizen and is therefore illegally holding office. Obama is an illegal-alien. THAT is why B.O. executed his first act as President, literally within 5 minutes of taking office, he signed executive order #13489 that sealed his own records, so much for being transparent.
Obama is hiding the fact that he is not a Natural Born US Citizen and that he attended college as a foreign student. If he was a US Citizen he could not of Attended college as a foreign student. He is rushing his healthcare and Cap and Trade before he is discovered. Please review what Orly Taitz is doing relative to exposing Obama. In addition, Obama is not qualified to be the POTUS. He should be impeached.
John,
Add to that list the following question. What citizenship he declared for himself when he applied for admission and/or financial aid when he attended Occidental College in California? Did he attend registered as an Indonesian citizen to get preferential treatment at admission and aide for foreign students?
And then there’s this possibility …
Mr. Obama – America’s First Undocumented Illegal Alien President:
http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4144
M Publius Goat
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I submit that the birth certificate issue will be trotted out by the MSM when they are finished with BHO. Maybe that has begun.
Even though we all know obama is not eligible, what do we do with that knowledge since congress and the courts refuse to even hear about ti?
Just a Reminder – Before he was nominated AKA Obama Signed a Resolution Describing Him As Ineligible
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/12/just-reminder-before-he-was-nominated.html
Who Certified AKA Obama as “Natural Born”?
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/11/this-from-obama-file-one-of-best.html
In 1961, the Public Health Services, U. S Department of Health, Education and Welfare, National Center for Health Statistics, National Vital Statistics Division published the “Vital Statistics of the United States
Here is a blank copy of the Standard Certificate of Live Birth. This is the information being hidden by Obama
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/07/blank-birth-certificate-form-aka-obama.html
Plus read the article that is included with the blank copy.
An interesting side not about Obama and Indonesia
1. He has been to Indonesia twice since he took over the oval office. Question. For what reason as a sitting POTUS would any POTUS have for going to Indonesia not only once but twice within the first 12 months of taking over the oval office? There are no economic reasons for doing so. I doubt that any other sitting POTUS has been to Indonesia even once other than maybe Eisenshower after the end of WWII.
2. The Indonesian government just announced that they are having a statute of Obama created and will put it on public desplay. They claim it was just because he slept there for 5 years or so. It could be. On the other hand maybe it is because he is their leading world citizen even today.
Obama knows that he isn’t eligble to the office of President. He also understands that “natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens…”
Why else did he sponsor the following which attempted to define “natural born Citizen” as “Any person born to any citizen of the United States while serving in the active or reserve components of the United States Armed Forces”?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2678
S. 2678
To clarify the law and ensure that children born to United States citizens while serving overseas in the military are eligible to become President.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES FEBRUARY 28, 2008
Mrs. MCCASKILL (for herself, Mr. OBAMA, Mrs. CLINTON, Mr. COBURN, and Mr. MENENDEZ) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary A BILL To clarify the law and ensure that children born to United States citizens while serving overseas in the military are eligible to become President. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’.
SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF ‘‘NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’’.
Congress finds and declares that the term ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ in article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States shall include: ‘‘Any person born to any citizen of the United States while serving in the active or reserve components of the United States Armed Forces’’.
The total hidden past records of college, BC, school enrollment etc. would clear or reveal the issue of eligibility.
It is hard to understand why someone hasn’t come forth with knowledge of his college status. For example, the entire application, enrollment, and admission process to Occidental College would have touch many hands in process. Student tuition is based on residency. So, by whom was tuition paid? As a foreign student? out of state student? what documents (a BC would have been required in addition to other ID) were used for application?
Then you have the various departments that type schedules, student ID cards, grade cards, parking permits, student status, professors with their student roster per semester, etc. Certainly someone has to remember Barry Soertero at Occidental, Columbia, Harvard. A secretary, an admissions clerk or assistant, a student loan processor, etc. It is very strange that he inhabits the White House on what we don’t know about him rather than what we do know. The confirmed fact of two separate DNC forms filed in 49 states with each election committee omitting the eligibility clause and the one filed in Hawaii includes the clause both signed by Pelosi and notarized raises huge questions, but not one Congressman or Senator will demand an investigation. That also is strange. The courts appear to be paid off. The attorney (R. Bauer) is now in the WH
and so far $1.7mil in legal fees to thwart discovery have been spent keeping records sealed. REMEMBER,
the first executive order he signed on Jan.21 was the protection of his personal records. Someone will find the smoking gun of testimony and facts to either put it to bed or expose for the world to see the US was duped by an impostor.
If Obama applied to Occidental as a foreigner, then that would in my opinion be tantamount to renunciating his US citizenship. And unlike his Indonesian citizenship, which was given to him as a child, Obama would be old enough to be accountable for renunciating his US citizenship. If he lost his US citizenship when he applied to Occidental, then he could only have gotten it back via the naturalization process. He would never have been elected as a naturalized citizen.
In addition if in fact Obama’s ribbon copy of his long form birth certificate listed Frank Marshall Davis as his natural father the politcal fallout would ruin his career. Everyone would realize that Obama’s who life is based upon a lie from the gitgo.
Depending on what documents he may have signed that required him to put down his father’s name he may have committed numerous felonies which I think would then make him inelgible to serve as POTUS even though he would not have been convicted of an actual felony at the time that he was certified by the Congress.
Agreed. It is called fraud, and he would be guilty of fraud on a number of levels.
The Supreme Court of the United States, in Minor v. Happersett, confirmed the definition of a “natural born citizen” as “children born in a country of parents who were its citizens”.
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 21 Wall. 162 162 (1874)
“No person except a natural-born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President”… The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Suffice it to say, Article II “natural born citizens” are those citizens who are “born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
Hence, Obama is not an Article II “natural born citizen” of the United States, even if he was born in Hawaii, as his father was a “foreigner”…
To reiterate, Obama’s father was not a citizen of the United States. Therefore, Obama is not an Article II “natural born citizen” of the United States.
The other good point that comes from the Minor v. Happersett case is what it says about the 14th amendment and those who claim that it makes the natural born citizen clause moot. The Minor case took place in 1874, which was 6 years after the 14th amendment, which declared all persons born or naturalized (and subject to the jurisdiction of the US) to be citizens. The Minor case says:
“The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens.”
Well, in 1874, the 14th amendment was a part of the Constitution, and so this amendment could not say that those born in the US were natural born citizens.
Obama acknowledges that he was “a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies” at birth.
Hence, Obama is not an Article II “natural born citizen” of the United States…
http://www.fightthesmears.com.php5-9.websitetestlink.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”
British Nationality Act of 1948
Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies
Citizenship by descent
5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth…
Obama could have lied when he said that. If Joe Wilson says that Obama lies that is good enough for me to establish the fact that Obama is a known public liar. LOL
What was Obama going to do? Come out and say no B. Obama Sr. is not my father and therefore I am elgible under Article II.
Of course not. Then his whole life story would come out and his life as a lie would unravel like a ball of yarn being played with by a cat.
AKA Obama’s life is a lie. The Narcissist as Liar and Con-man
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/01/narcissist-as-liar-and-con-man.html
Obama is keeping the best available evidence secret. Let’s just add suppression of evidence to the other charges of election fraud, campaign finance violations and filing fraudulent documents in all 50 states.
No matter what you might think there is no escaping that AKA Obama is not practicing the virtue of full disclosure.
The entire reason there is a professional field known as forensic document examination is that a great deal can be told from examination of the original document itself. Much, much less can be told by looking at a photocopy of a document and very little, if anything at all, can be told from looking at a digital image that purports to be an image of an original document. Too much opportunity for adulteration, no opportunity to examine the paper, the ink, any impressions made on the paper, etc. These online arguments discussing images (especially photographic images) are like people studying animals by examining scat.
Forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines,
http://www.asqde.org/SRLines/SandraRLines.htm
a Former Federal Examiner with a long history of expert testimony in state and federal courts, has testified in an affidavit that states, in part:
“I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.” Sandra Ramsey Lines summary is also posted at U. S. Law Blog.
Excerpted from:
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html
Great post, Benaiah. The question that no one in the main stream media wants to ask or answer is this:
How can the status at birth of a US natural born citizen be “governed” by the laws of Great Britain?
I’m glad Sean Hannity finally said something about this. During the campaign he said that 2008 would go down as the year the Main Stream Media died. For a while I thought Fox would be included. They should have done something sooner.
Hey talon,
The reason the birth certificate is important is because “the people” haven’t shown any interest in upholding the constitution. Neither have the courts.
And that’s what brings us back to the bc. When it is shown that there has been fraud committed, that’s what will finally get people outraged. (I hope)
When are all the thick headed people going to get it? The birth certificate has been made moot by Obama’s admission that citizenship status was governed by Great Britain at the time of his birth, because his father was a citizen of Kenya, which was a British Colony at the time, under the British Nationality Act.
If we are going to support and defend the Constitution, we have to accept the definition of “natural born citizen” which the Founder’s gave us.
The definition of the term, “natural born citizen”, was entered into the Congressional record of the House on March 9, 1866, in comments made by Rep. John Bingham on the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which was the precursor to the Fourteenth Amendment. He repeated Vattel’s definition when he said:
“[I] find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. . . . ” — John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866).
Obama’s father owed allegiance to a foreign sovereignty at the time of Barack Obama II birth. Therefore, Obama owes allegiance to a foreign sovereignty and can not be a natural born citizen of the United States of America. This disqualifies Obama from serving as President of the United States of America. His birth certificate is not necessary to disqualify him as President. He was never qualified in the first place.
Very well said Talon! The natural born citizen requirement was a means to an end, and you described that end very well — which is allegiance to our nation. The flip side of allegiance to our nation is the minimalization of foreign influence. It is important to note that just being a natural born citizen was not enough for our Founding Fathers. They added a 14-year US residency requirement to be President. Why? Well because they understood that foreign influence comes not only from having been born if a foreign country or from having non-US citizen parents, but also from exposure to foreign ideas from having lived in a foreign country. The 14-year residency requirement was a way to “cleanse” a natural born citizen from the foreign influence he/she received from having lived in a foreign country in the last 14 years.
While i’m glad Leo is on the quo warranto, i’m disappointed that it would seem to appear that he’s off the hawaii doh and bc issue. Hopefully, that’s still going on in the background, but who knows.
If the birth certificate showed Frank Marshall Davis as Obama’s father it would only show that Obama was a natural born citizen and therefore under article 2 of the U.S. Constitution qualified to be POTUS provided
(It would not show) that when Obama lived in Indonesia he didn’t become an Indonesian citizen and in the process had to give up whatever other citizenship he had at the time when he became an Indonesian citizen.
Seeing Obama’s original or copy of his original ribbon copy of his long form birth certificate would in no way prove that Obama is today a U.S. citizen!!!. The quesitons around the time he lived in Indonsian regarding his citizenship at that time and subsequently would still need to be answered especially in light of the fact that Obama traveled to PaKistan in 1981 when supposedly (needss to be answered) U.S. citizens other than diplomats were not allowed entry into Pakistan.
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Mr. Charlton replies: Good points, J.G.!
So we still need to answer the quesiton.
What passport did Obama use to enter Pakistan in 1981?
!. U.S.
2. British/Kenyan
3. Indonesian
I think that along with seeing the ribbon copy of his birth certificate would go a long way toward establishing whether or not he is in fact a usurper as POTUS.
John, if Obama was born in Hawaii and Frank Marshall Davis is the father, then technically Obama is a natural born citizen, but he would still not meet the Constitutional test. This is because we have to understand the intent of the Founding Fathers. They wanted presidents who were free of foreign influence, and the natural born citizen requirement was a means to that end. We cannot erase history. Obama’s birth status was that he was a dual citizen because his father of record (Obama Senior) was a British citizen, and this historical fact will not change if Davis turns out to be the father. We cannot erase the foreign claims upon his birth status nor the foreign influence which became a part of his upbringing and identity.