AN INTERVIEW WITH TREVOR LOUDON
by John Charlton
(Sept. 14, 2009) — Revelations that Obama was not just chummy with Marxists and Socialists throughout his life, but even may have been recruited by the KGB, first surfaced with Tom Fife, the physicist’s testimony (see www.rense.com for audio file).
More recently, a New Zealand researcher has obtained documents which connect the dots, and seemingly confirm the Fife testimony.
To get a better understanding of the Communists network in America, I requested an interview with Trevor Loudon, of New Zealand Research Assosciates, who has spent much of his life investigating international marxism and its operatives. Such is Loudon’s authority, that Media Matters recently named him the “Blogger who nailed Van Jones.”
What follows is a highly informative interview with Mr. Loudon, which is a must read for all thoughtful American citizens in the present national crisis.
The Post & Email interviewed Mr. Loudon by email, at his residence in Christchurch, New Zealand.
MR. CHARLTON: I asked your for this opportunity to interview you on the basis of a research article you recently posted on the Internet at your blog, The New Zeal, regarding the Communist Network in Chicago a generation ago. But before we discuss it, can you tell me something about yourself, for the readers of The Post & Email, who might be unfamiliar with Trevor Loudon, the New Zealand researcher.
MR. LOUDON: I have been researching communism since the 80s-when our own Moscow aligned Marxists turned New Zealand anti-nuclear and destroyed the ANZUS Alliance.
My special interest is the ability of the far left to infiltrate and manipulate “moderate” political parties and institutions to influence public opinion and alter government policies.
I began studying the US communist movement after observing the strength of the Anti-Iraq war movement.
MR. CHARLTON: What was it that lead you to investigate the Communist Network in Chicago?
MR. LOUDON: General research into the Communist Party USA led me to stumble on a reference to Obama and his communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis in early 2007. It piqued my interest-even at that stage I could see he was marked for high office. The more I dug, the more I found-ties to Democratic Socialists of America and Committees of Correspondence and direct evidence of Communist Party support during his 2004 Senate campaign.
MR. CHARLTON: What importance did the Communist Network in Chicago have among the Communists in the U.S.A., before, during and after WWII?
MR. LOUDON: Chicago was the birthplace of US communism — the party was founded there in 1919. Chicago and Detroit were the centers of Midwest communism into the 1930s. The communist influenced “Black renaissance “ movement was centered in two places-Harlem and Chicago’s South Side.
Chicago’s advantage in communist terms, was that the industrial South Side with its large working class white, black and Latino populations was bordered by the more affluent Hyde Park area, and the thoroughly communist infiltrated University of Chicago. The Marxist academics of the UC had half a city of proletarians on their doorstep to experiment with and practice on.
Hyde Park has been a major center of Socialism and communism ever since. I believe it is no accident that Obama based himself there.
MR. CHARLTON: First, for those who may be unfamiliar, can you say something about Communism, Marxism, Leninism? What’s their origin and what’s the difference between them?
MR. LOUDON: Marxism is the collectivist political philosophy developed by Karl Marx in the mid 19th century. Basically it states that class struggle is the motive power of social change and that the working class is destined to overthrow capitalism and establish a classless, communal society-communism.
Leninism — developed obviously by Lenin, father of the 1917 Russian revolution — is simply a philosophy and series of interlinked tactical strategies for achieving power for one group at the expense of all others.
Marxism-Leninism is the use by Marxists, of Leninist strategies to achieve power.
Most modern communists pay lip service only to Marxism, which has been well and truly discredited. Leninism on the other hand has proven highly successful and has been used to take power in dozens of countries.
Most communists today are Leninists in practice, Marxists in name only.
MR. CHARLTON: What role did the Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics have in spreading Communism internationally? And in organizing Communist parties world-wide?
MR. LOUDON: From the late 1920s to the late 1980s, the Soviet Union was unquestionably the leader of world communism.
Soviet defector and former KGB operative Anatoly Golitsyn, claims that even the Sino-Soviet split of the early 1960s was faked in order draw the US closer to China.
I support that view.
MR. CHARLTON: Can we discount claims that the USSR backed communist organizations in the West, since communists existed in the West before they did in Russia?
MR. LOUDON: Once the Russian revolution was consolidated, the Soviet Union became the supreme ruler of the world communist movement.
All direction came from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union until the Khrushchev era, when more ‘independent” forms of communism were introduced.
While some parties were nominally more independent and even critical of Moscow in some instances, the Soviets still maintained their central coordinating role.
MR. CHARLTON: What were the goals of the American Communist Party?
MR. LOUDON: A socialist/communist America — (and they) still are.
From early on the US communists put great emphasis on infiltrating the labor unions, the Democratic Party, the US government and the “civil rights” movement.
While hugely reduced in size the US communists and their allies in Democratic Socialists of America, Committees of Correspondence and the wider “progressive” movement have huge influence on the more than 70 strong Congressional Progressive Caucus, the AFL-CIO and several large black and Latino organizations.
These are being used to break down and alter the character of US society.
MR. CHARLTON: Who were the early leaders of this party in the U.S.A. in the inter war years (1918-1939)?
MR. LOUDON: William Z. Foster and Earl Browder were the main leaders in this period.
MR. CHARLTON: Who were the ringleaders, movers-and-shakers of the Communist Network in Chicago?
MR. LOUDON: In post-World-War-II Chicago you had prominent leaders like William Patterson and his wife Louise, later it was Jack Kling, the Childs brothers (both later revealed to be FBI agents) Claude Lightfoot, Ishmael Flory, Milton Cohen, Abe Feinglass, Richard Criley, Frank Wilkinson, Frank and Bea Lumpkin and Ted Pearson-today its John Bachtell, Scott Marshall and his wife Roberta Wood.
MR. CHARLTON: Who were the prominent African Americans in the Chicago network?
MR. LOUDON: In the 40s they included William and Louise Patterson, Ishmael Flory, Claude Lightfoot, Frank Marshall Davis and Oscar Brown. Vernon Jarrett (father-in-law of Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett) and future Chicago mayor Harold Washington were close to the network as was future Obama friend Timuel Black and close Obama associates: former Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer and one term Illinois Senator Carol Moseley Braun.
MR. CHARLTON: Can you tell me something about the Jarrett family?
MR. LOUDON: Vernon Jarrett was a prominent Chicago journalist who used his columns to promote Barack Obama during his 2004 Senate run (Jarrett died soon after).
In the later 40s Jarrett worked in at least three communist influenced or controlled organizations in common with Frank Marshall Davis — the two worked together on the publicity committee of a communist controlled Packing House Workers strike support committee in 1948..
After that Vernon Jarrett ran a black oriented radio program in partnership with Communist Party member Oscar Brown-later a famous jazz musician.
The Jarretts were family friends with the Bowman family and Valerie Bowman became Valerie Jarrett through a five year marriage to Vernon Jarrett’s now deceased son.
Valerie’s mother Barbara Taylor Bowman runs the Erikson Institute in Chicago. Tom Ayers, father of Weather Underground terrorist leader and Obama associate Bill Ayers served on the Erikson board as did Bill Ayers’ wife Bernardine Dohrn. Bill Ayers claims to be a friend and Hyde park neighbor of Barbara Bowman, who incidentally is an adviser on early childhood education to the Secretary of Education.
Valerie Jarrett hired Michelle Obama for a Chicago City job in the 90s and became a close friend and advisor to both Michelle and Barack, leading to her current job in the White House.
MR. CHARLTON: Can you tell me who was Frank Marshall Davis? And what were his connections to the Chicago Network?
MR. LOUDON: Frank Marshall Davis was a prominent Chicago journalist and poet in 1940s Chicago. He was member of the Dorie Miller Club of the Communist Party, but never publicly admitted membership.
Davis left Chicago for Hawaii in 1948, where he worked on the Honolulu Record, a paper controlled by the communist ‘owned’ International Longshoremen’s Worker Union.
Davis was an active, but still covert Party member in Hawaii and went underground with the Party in the mid 50s-after a Senate Inquiry into communist activities on the islands. Davis was one third of a three member underground cell with his wife Helen Canfield and one other comrade.
At one point the FBI observed Davis photographing obscure Hawaii beaches, leading to speculation that he may have been involved in intelligence gathering.
Davis was marked by the FBI for immediate arrest in the event of war with the Soviet Union.
Like many of his comrades Davis was an official in the Hawaii Democratic Party.
In 1970 Davis was introduced to a 10 year old Barack Obama, by Obama’s grandfather-who was Davis’ friend and drinking buddy.
The Davis/Obama relationship endured until 1978 when Obama left for college in Los Angeles.
Frank Marshall Davis was listed as an endorser of the well documented Communist Party front-Committee for Protection of Foreign Born until at least 1974.
Davis died in 1987.
MR. CHARLTON: Why did Davis go to Hawaii?
MR. LOUDON: It was reportedly at the suggestion of both the singer/activist Paul Robeson and ILWU boss Harry Bridges-both covert party members.
MR. CHARLTON: Did Barry get help from Davis to go to Occidental? To get into Columbia or Harvard?
MR. LOUDON: No evidence
MR. CHARLTON: Did the Chicago Network invite Barack Obama to Chicago?
MR. LOUDON: Obama claims that he was inspired to leave New York for Chicago in 1983 after the election of the city’s first black mayor Harold Washington-who was involved in Party fronts well into the 1980s.
It is important to note that Obama attended “socialist conferences” at the Cooper union while in New York.
Cooper Union was the usual venue of the annual Socialist Scholars Conference which was organized by Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) — the US’s largest socialist/Marxist grouping.
Chicago DSA allied with the Chicago CP to elect Harold Washington and Carol Moseley Braun.
DSA endorsed Obama in his 1995 Illinois State senate run.
Obama joined the Chicago New Party at that time. The New Party was a coalition of ACORN, DSA, Committees of Correspondence and SEIU activists
Obama worked closely with several DSA members in Chicago, a well as with come cadre from Committees of Correspondence — a Communist Party splinter group.
Several of Obama’s close friends, neighbors and colleagues were involved with DSA including Saul Mendelson, Quentin Young, Timuel Black, Rabbi Arnold Wolf, Jackie Grimshaw, Leon Despres and Congressmen Danny Davis and Jan Schakowsky.
Of those Mendelson was an ex Trotskyite, Young is an ex Communist, Despres was an ex Socialist Party member and Trotskyite, Black is also a member of CoC and Davis has ties to both the Communist Party and CoC.
MR. CHARLTON: What history is there between Obama and the Communist Party since his arrival in Chicago?
MR. LOUDON: Obama’s main documented links to the Chicago left were through DSA, Committees of Correspondence and the New Party.
Prominent CoC leader Manning Marable wrote in Britain’s Socialist Review of November 2008:
What makes Obama different is that he has also been a community organizer. He has read left literature, including my works, and he understands what socialism is. A lot of the people working with him are, indeed, socialists with backgrounds in the Communist Party or as independent Marxists. There are a lot of people like that in Chicago who have worked with him for years…
That said, both the Chicago Communist Party and Young Communist League campaigned for Obama in his 2004 Senate race and both organizations overtly campaigned for Obama in 2008.
Communist Party leader Sam Webb recently described Obama as a ‘friend.”
MR. CHARLTON: What does Obama mean by “Change we can believe in“? Who is this “we”, and what is this “change”?
MR. LOUDON: We is the broad ‘progressive movement” which includes the Communist Party, Democratic Socialists of America, Committees of Correspondence, Freedom Road Socialist Organization, ACORN, AFL-CIO, Change to Win, Demos, Institute for Policy Studies, Center for American Progress, Campaign for America’s Future, George Soros’s Open Society institute, United for Peace and Justice, Jobs with Justice, Economic Policy Institute, US Action, Apollo Alliance, the more than 70 strong Congressional Progressive Caucus, Progressive democrats of America, the wider Democratic Party…..etc, etc and their allies in the MSM, academia and government.
The change is towards a unionized, centralized, oligarchic “progressive” society where the values of the left reign supreme and traditional American values are demonized and all opposition is marginalized-by whatever means necessary.
MR. CHARLTON: Was Obama ever a Communist Party Candidate? A Socialist Party candidate?
MR. LOUDON: I doubt he was ever that silly. The New Party which Obama did join was established by DSA, CoC, ACORN, SEIU and the far left Institute for Policy Studies, but it was leftist, rather than openly Marxist.
MR. CHARLTON: Who in the current Obama Administration has ties to the Communist or Socialist parties?
MR. LOUDON: Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis has ties to the Communist Party, DSA, Socialist International and Cuba.
David Bonior (formerly number two Democrat in Congress) who is working for Obama to re-unite the AFL-CIO and Change to Win is a paid up DSA member.
Carol Browner (Energy/Climate change) has ties to the Socialist International-which despite its name now includes several ‘former’ communist parties — and China as an “observer”.
David Axelrod was mentored by two Communist Party linked activists, Don Rose and David S Canter in his early days in Chicago. At one point Canter, an importer of Soviet literature was required to register as an agent of the Soviet Union.
Van Jones, was of course involved with STORM and the Bay Area Committees of Correspondence.
New manufacturing Czar Ron Bloom is an anti-capitalist with some links to DSA
There are others who I’d rather “keep my powder dry” on at this time.
MR. CHARLTON: Is there any significance in the kind of authority or power he has given to each, regarding the “Change” that he wants to introduce?
MR. LOUDON: Take “manufacturing Czar Ron Bloom — I predict that he will push for card-check to increase union power.
He will also push for single payer health care. He will run the argument that to make US industry competitive, industry must be relieved of the health benefits burden. It must instead be loaded on to the taxpayer to get “industry’-unionized industry only of course-“back on its feet.
All the Czars have, I believe, been picked to centralize and socialize their particular sector of US society — or to provide camouflage for their underlings who will do the real work.
MR. CHARLTON: What significance do you put on the evidence you have gathered?
MR. LOUDON: That’s for my readers to decide.
MR. CHARLTON: For the record, from your research, can you say if there is any kind of collaboration or alliance between international Communism and Islamic Fundamentalism?
MR. LOUDON: That goes very deep. It is nothing new-the communists have been infiltrating Islam since the twenties, just as they have Christianity in the west and Hinduism and Buddhism in South Asia.
There are numerous links between Middle Eastern communist parties and the PLO and other radical Islamic groups. The same in the US-the left has bent over backwards to defend Islamic radicalism and attack all US efforts to defeat militant Islam.
MR. CHARLTON: Does China have any role in the Communist Party in America?
MR. LOUDON: Yes-the Communist Party USA has developed extensive ties to China in recent years. The Russians haven’t been forgotten though. Party leader Sam Webb was in Moscow a couple of years ago.
MR. CHARLTON: Why should free peoples everywhere, be wary about Communists after the fall of the Berlin Wall?
MR. LOUDON: Because China has 70 million party members and the movement is very strong in Europe, Japan, Latin America, Southern Africa and of course Russia.
You also have 70 members of the congressional progressive caucus, most of whom would be very comfortable in a European socialist or communist party.
You have a president who…….
Your media tells you little of communist/socialist strength overseas and nothing of your internal threats.
The big advantage that modern communists and socialists have over their 1950s counterparts is that today they have virtually zero governmental or media opposition.
Until Fox news that is.
MR. CHARLTON: What kind of Communist infiltration is there in the Main Stream Media in the West? Is their editorial policy based on this?
MR. LOUDON: The left infiltrated the journalism schools very early in the piece-turning budding reporters into “social change agents” rather than objective news gatherers.
Add to that a craven fear of being labeled a “McCarthyist” and a deliberate policy of infiltrating leftists into key media positions and you have a big problem.
The MSM practically went through Sarah Palin’s underwear drawer — which is perfectly legitimate as every candidate for high office deserves scrutiny — but gave Barack Obama and Van Jones a free pass.
MSM bias is blatant. Thank god for the internet and Glenn Beck.
MR. CHARLTON: Is there anything you would like to add?
MR. LOUDON: Thanks for the opportunity to address your readers.
MR. CHARLTON: Thank you for your time and availability Mr. Loudon; it has been a pleasure to speak with you about the Communist ties of Barack Hussein Obama.
There has been a follow up to this interview at: Jones 2 Bloom: Obama plays the Socialist Shell-game, and at : Socialists Proliferate in Obama Administration
Mr. Loudon is scheduled to speak at the 40th Anniversary Conference of Accuracy in the Media, Oct. 23, 2009, in Washington, D.C..