Has Anyone Heard This about Obama’s Birth Certificate?

“TWO-PAGE, LONG-FORM CERTIFICATION”

by Sharon Rondeau

(Sep. 21, 2017) — Earlier this week, The Post & Email became aware of a Fox News article dated April 27, 2011 which reported that on that morning, the White House released “the forms” called for during the preceding months by then-businessman Donald Trump constituting Barack Hussein Obama’s “long-form” birth certificate.

Amid much media clamor, Trump had publicly demanded that the White House release documentation proving that Obama was born in the United States and was therefore presumably eligible to serve as president in keeping with the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that the chief executive be a “natural born Citizen.”

While Obama claims a birth in Honolulu, HI, a number of mainstream news reports had stated that he was born in Kenya or Indonesia, some of which were altered later to say that he was “born in Hawaii.”

The article, whose only byline is “Fox News,” begins:

Donald Trump, whose popularity as a possible Republican presidential contender shot up after he started questioning the whereabouts of President Obama’s birth certificate, said Wednesday he is “so proud” the president has finally released the forms.

Was there more than one “form?”

On April 27, 2011, NBC News’s Savannah Guthrie claimed to have received a “copy” of the “long-form” birth certificate.  Showing a paper to then-NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams, Guthrie said it contained a “raised seal” which she “felt” in an apparent effort to convince viewers that it was authentic.

That claim has been refuted by the former detective, Mike Zullo, who conducted a five-year investigation into the image under the auspices of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO), then led by Sheriff Joseph Arpaio.

NBC appears to have removed the video of Guthrie reporting on the release of the “long-form” document, leaving only a “rush” transcript from its news archives.

A clip of the video is contained here at 4:36.

Fox News’s Steve Centanni also had claimed to be in possession of a paper copy of the birth certificate image as he reported from the White House that day, referring to a one-page document.  That video appears to no longer be online.

However, a Fox News radio report confirmed that “copies” of Obama’s “long-form birth certificate” were released on April 27, 2011 and displayed a one-page image.

Close to two years ago, The Post & Email contacted both Centanni and Guthrie with questions about the “document” that they reportedly received from the White House but received no response.

Later in the April 27, 2011 Fox News article, it states:

Trump, who released his birth certificate last month, said the issue was very relevant, especially since so many other topics are being clouded by the distraction.

“I hope it checks out beautifully. … Now we can talk about oil, gasoline prices. We can talk about China ripping off this country. We can talk about OPEC doing numbers on us,” he said.

Trump’s position is similar to the White House‘s reasoning when it surprised reporters Wednesday morning with copies of the two-page, long-form certification of live birth issued by the state of Hawaii. It shows the president was born Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu to father Barack Hussein Obama and mother Stanley Ann Dunham.

The link under “White House” now produces an error message, as does the link embedded in the words “Barack Hussein Obama.”

Image of Obama “short-form” birth certificate from The Daily KOS website

The “Certification of Live Birth” was the image released at The Daily KOS on June 12, 2008, followed by other websites, and is also referred to as the “short-form” birth certificate. That, too, has been said to be a forgery.

The image released by the White House in 2011 is titled “Certificate of Live Birth.”

The reference to the “long-form” birth certificate consisting of two pages is the first this writer has noted, as the Obama White House has always presented it as one page.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Where is the second page, if it exists?  If not, why did Fox report the release as two pages?

The George Soros-funded “Media Matters” reported that “Fox News and Fox Business helped lay the groundwork for Trump’s birtherism by giving him a platform to promote his birther beliefs — which some Fox hosts, analysts, and contributors embraced,” citing examples of various Fox News personalities discussing, or allowing discussion of, the Obama birth certificate/eligibility issue as if it were a crime.

On April 29, 2011, Fox posted an article by Jana Winter, who is no longer a Fox News reporter, quoting an “expert” who allegedly confirmed that the long-form birth certificate image is “legit.”  The article begins:

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

However, the quoted “expert,” Jean Claude Tremblay, decried Winter’s assertions in an interview with WND two months later. “I never said that,” WND reported Tremblay as having said on June 21, 2011.  “Winter called me and talked to me for about five minutes on the telephone, and she never said she was going to quote me. Then she misrepresented what I said,” the full quote reads.

WND additionally reported that Tremblay insisted that “none of his comments would permit the conclusion that the Obama birth certificate is an authentic document.”  “I no longer trust Fox News,” Tremblay reportedly said. “Despite my protests, Fox News will not allow me to correct their story.”

On July 17, 2012, Arpaio and Zullo held the second of what would be three press conferences on the birth certificate investigation, declaring the image uploaded to whitehouse.gov “definitely fraudulent.”  On that day, Fox News posted an article summarizing the presser written by the Associated Press.

The Post & Email has printed the April 27, 2011 Fox News article in the event that it disappears from the web.

23 Responses to "Has Anyone Heard This about Obama’s Birth Certificate?"

  1. Jd   Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 6:03 PM

    Is zullo or arpaio ever gonna tell us what they found?

  2. David L   Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 11:53 AM

    Carter

    Obtained copy in June, 2007
    Uploaded to internet June, 2008

    And yes Pfeiffer misspoke in 2011 when he said, “In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii”

  3. David L   Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 11:44 AM

    Real image analyst on the Poland image analysis.

    https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/235-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis-Part-II.html

  4. James Carter   Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 10:16 AM

    Dear David L and T.F. Bow:

    Please provide what you believe is/was the timeline and chain of custody of Obama’s “Certification Of Live Birth” (COLB/short-form bc).

    Thank you.

  5. CDR Kerchner (Ret)   Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 10:50 PM

    Here is a link to the work of Dr. Ron Polland showing his evidence that the Short-Form CERTIFICATION of Live Birth released in June 2008 on the Daily Kos and later on Obama’s Fight The Smears websites is a digitally created forgery: https://www.scribd.com/document/272985997/Obama-Short-Form-Certification-of-Live-Birth-Form-COLB-Placed-Online-In-June-2008-is-a-Computer-Generated-Forgery-Per-Researchers-Ron-Polland-PhD

  6. Sharon Rondeau   Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM

    I agree.

  7. T.F. B0W   Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 5:25 PM

    “Donald Trump, whose popularity as a possible Republican presidential contender shot up after he started questioning the whereabouts of President Obama’s birth certificate, said Wednesday he is ‘so proud’ the president has finally released the forms.”

    FOX’s writing is unclear; it is unclear whether “forms” is its mistake, or the current president’s.

    FOX could have done a better investigation, and could have written more precisely.

  8. Sharon Rondeau   Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 2:06 PM

    But it was published on the day the LFBC was released…Why didn’t Fox know how many pages were released, and what does that have to do with Trump?

  9. T.F. B0W   Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 2:00 PM

    Hawaii also verified the information on the long form to two Secretaries of States.

    prsmith is free to believe anything, but all the judges who considered the issued ruled Obama’s Hawaiian birth was sufficient to confer natural-born citizenship.

    As this article mentions, it appears that any reference to Obama’s citizenship being more than one page was errant remark, either by FOX or the current president.

  10. T.F. B0W   Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM

    Who is Ron Polland? What are his credentials? What documents did he examine?

  11. prsmith   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 11:49 PM

    Barack Obama’s father was a Kenyan national and a British subject. Junior was born a Kenyan national and a British subject. He is not a natural born Citizen regardless of what those papers say.

  12. David L   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 11:32 PM

    Why would the certified copies not match the White House image?

    The Hawaii DOH says this:

    On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

    For information go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

    Hawaii Health Department Grants President Obama’s Request for Certified Copies of ‘Long Form’ Birth Certificate

    President Obama’s letter to the Hawaii State Department of Health and the Director of Health’s response

    Department of Health’s policy on the issuance of certified copies of vital records

    Why would they provide a link to the White House image if it did not match? And then there is the Guthrie photo.

    Also Hawaii DOH press release says the following:

    “In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.”

    If Hawaii is in on it, like Zullo contends, why wouldn’t they match.

  13. David L   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 11:18 PM

    Dr. Ron Poland is not a computer image analyst. A real forensic computer analyst reviewed his work.

    https://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/202-The-Birth-of-a-Conspiracy.html

  14. Sharon Rondeau   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 10:07 PM

    The story was that two certified copies of Obama’s original BC were given to Judith Corley, Obama’s then-personal attorney employed by Perkins Coie. What we do not know is whether or not what was posted at whitehouse.gov matches the certified copies, if that story is true.

    http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2011/04/perkins-coie-judith-corley-got-obamas-birth-certificate.html

    Curiously, several days ago, someone posted a comment in which he claimed that Obama’s “original” birth certificate was kept at the White House all along. If that were true, why would Corley have had to travel to Hawaii to obtain two certified copies?

    The commenter, who also claimed to have worked in the “U.S. passport office” and learned how to spot forgeries, did not respond to a request for an interview from this writer.

  15. marlene   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 8:24 PM

    If obama had a genuine 2 page birth certificate, he would have released it instead of releasing the 1 page forgery. None of the birth certs released or found on obama are legitimate. He’s is definitely hiding it because it disqualifies him from becoming president – and the global Trilateral Commission made sure it was never released. Instead, many forgeries were made until they could make one which looked legitimate enough to be accepted as real. None of them are to this date! And don’t forget the Hawaiian clerk who died under mysterious conditions…

  16. trader jack   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 7:13 PM

    dr ron polland presented a long article about the COLB showing the problems with the colb

  17. trader jack   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 7:04 PM

    If I remember correctly the HDOH issue two birth certificates to the lawyer and only a copy of one of them was shown. It would be interesting to see what the other birth certificate says and how it matches the disclosed birth certificate.

    Never seeing the original copies provided to the attorney makes it difficult to confirm the accuracy on any of the copies.

    Ah, but we have to trust the government to tell the truth as the HDOH would never issue fake documents, as that would be against the law, right?

  18. David L   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 6:42 PM

    Who has said the COLB is a forgery?

  19. David L   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 6:09 PM

    “On July 17, 2012, Arpaio and Zullo held the second of what would be three press conferences on the birth certificate investigation”

    I believe everything in that July press conference has now been retracted by the Cold Case Posse and Mike Zullo.

  20. peter lettkeman   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 5:45 PM

    “That may be what they are referring to. Many people forgot that President Obama first released his birth certificate in 2008.”

    Are you referring to the COLB that Sharon addresses in the article? It is said to be a forged one as well.

  21. T.F. B0W   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 3:59 PM

    It would appear that FOX was summarizing the current president’s statement on the matter. Perhaps the current president was wrong, or FOX’s summary was inaccurate.

  22. Sharon Rondeau   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 3:37 PM

    While that is possible, the Fox News report is still inaccurate in describing the new “birth certificate” as consisting of two pages.

  23. David L   Friday, September 22, 2017 at 1:22 PM

    Reporters at the press conference were given a packet that contained a copy ot the LFBC and the COLB along with the letters by the Hawaii DOH Director, the President and the President’s lawyer.

    That may be what they are referring to. Many people forgot that President Obama first released his birth certificate in 2008.

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