When Was Obama a Boy Scout…

OR WAS HE?

by Sharon Rondeau

(Jul. 24, 2017) — On Monday evening, as President Trump addressed the annual Boy Scout Jamboree in West Virginia, CBS White House correspondent tweeted the names of past presidents who were once members of the organization, founded in 1909.

In the list, along with “JFK, Ford, Clinton, and GWBush” was “Obama.”

Ford’s having attained the rank of Eagle Scout is well-documented.  Kennedy was reported by Scouting Magazine to have been “the first president to have been a Boy Scout.”

At approximately the same time as his first tweet, Knoller said that seven former presidents attended and spoke to Boy Scout Jamborees “since 1937, the last being GWBush in 2005.”

The crowd on Monday evening was estimated to be between 40,000 and 45,000.  During his remarks, Trump raised the fact that Obama had not attended the event during his eight years in the White House.

This writer cannot recall a time when Obama or anyone in his administration ever claimed that Obama was a Boy Scout.  Obama reportedly spent four years living in Indonesia between the ages of 6 and 10.

Today, boys who wish to join the Boy Scouts of America begin at age 7 as a “Tiger” and can graduate up to “Wolf Scouts” in the second grade to Bear Scouts as third-graders and Webelos Scouts in fourth and fifth grades.

“Webelos Scouts do more advanced activities to get ready to graduate into Boy Scouting,” the BSA website states.  A boy who begins later than age 7 does not have to complete the activities associated with the levels he missed.

An article at The Huffington Post dated November 10, 2015 claims that Trump, while campaigning for the Republican presidential nomination, labeled Obama the “worst Boy Scout ever.”

“The would-be Republican nominee for President is now demanding the President turn over the records from his days as a Boy Scout,” wrote author Paul Lander.

The photo of Obama at the top of the article is obviously photoshopped, as Obama is depicted as an adult in a Boy Scout uniform.

Lander’s article also appears, with an earlier date, at a website named “HumorTimes” which declares it to be satire.

In addition to CBS, a number of mainstream media outlets reported on the jamboree as Trump was speaking, including his remarks apparently aimed at Republican members of Congress, who have not followed through on their many pledges to repeal and replace Obama’s health care bill known as “Obamacare.”

Other aspects of Obama’s life have been presented differently at different times.  A 1991 promotional booklet containing Obama’s purported biography reported him as “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii” and remained so through April 2007, when it was quietly changed to say that he was “born in Hawaii.”

At some point before Obama ran for president, he declared himself as born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961 to a U.S.-citizen mother and British-citizen father.

In 2008, Michelle Obama described Kenya as being her husband’s “home country.”

Prior to his presidential run, mainstream writers reported Obama as born in Indonesia, later changing their narratives to claim adamantly that he was born in Hawaii.

Article II, section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution requires the president to be a “natural born citizen,” which most Americans understand means, at a minimum, “born in the United States.”

Many scholars and others studying the issue have questioned whether or not an individual whose father was never a U.S. citizen can be considered “natural born.”

As the satirical article referenced, in early 2011, Trump urged the White House publicly to release Obama’s “long-form” birth certificate to prove that he was born in the United States and presumably eligible to the office of president. At the time, Trump was considering challenging Obama in the 2012 election.

On April 27, 2011, the White House published what it said was a scan of a certified copy of Obama’s original birth record from the Hawaii Department of Health. However, within days, experts in the fields of computer graphics design declared the image a poor forgery.

A five-year criminal investigation led by former detective Mike Zullo of Maricopa County, AZ, commissioned by then-Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, led to evidence demonstrating that the birth certificate image is a “computer-generated forgery.” Also found to be fraudulent was Obama’s purported Selective Service registration form.

The Obama White House did not issue a response to the the claims of forgery of Obama’s only publicly-proffered documentation, and the FBI declined to investigate.

Regarding presidents who were Boy Scouts, the website reference.com states that “John F. Kennedy was the first U.S. President to be a Boy Scout, reaching the level of Star Scout. As of 2014, Gerald Ford was the only President to reach the level of Eagle Scout. Both George W. Bush and Bill Clinton were Cub Scouts. Barack Obama was not a part of the Boy Scouts of America; rather he was a member of Gerakan Pramuka, the Indonesian Scout Association, and he reached the equivalent of Cub Scout.

Answers.com posted a similar response to the question of whether or not Obama was a Boy Scout.  “He was never a Boy Scout of America. But he was a boy scout in Jakarta,” the statement said.

The Post & Email cannot vouch for the veracity of either of the aforementioned claims regarding Obama’s alleged scouting experience in Indonesia.

In 2013, Obama opined on CBS News that the Boy Scouts of America should permit homosexuals to join, which had been against their policy.  Although upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, the Boy Scouts changed their policy later that year to allow boys who identified as “gay” to become members.

In 2015, the organization voted to allow “gay” men to become Scout leaders.  At the time, NBC News reported that despite the change in policy, “The Boy Scouts national organization said it would defend any local scouting group’s ‘good faith refusal’ to admit a scouting leader based upon the group’s religious principles.”

 

 

 

 

 

16 Responses to "When Was Obama a Boy Scout…"

  1. Barbara Renick   Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 1:32 AM

    Conflict: Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but because his mother was born in the USA, he got a pass on being born in the USA.

    Barack Obama (Jr) was born in Hawaii of a US-born mother, so why the controversy? Since his father was born in Kenya and their names are the same, there’s where the confusion began.

  2. T.F. B0W   Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 11:05 AM

    Possibilities aside of what might have happened, there is still no evidence that Obama actually submitted his bio. What someone said in 2012 was typical for most people generally is not evidence of what actually happened in 1991 regarding Obama specifically. Especially considering that the bio in question was not for Obama’s book, but for a promotional phamphlet.

    There is also no evidence Obama was even aware of the bio, as the pamphlet was primarily used for industry events. The obscurity of the pamphlet is shown by no one even mentioning it until 2012, a full five years after Obama first announced his candidacy.

    The evidence that Obama did not submit his bio is Goderich expressly saying so, and her taking responsibility for the mistake. Considering the similarities in their names, mixing up Obama, Sr. (who was born in Kenya) and Obama, Jr. (who was born in Hawaii) is plausible.

    In addition, the very same pamphlet also has Newt Gingrich’s place of birth wrong. Which further suggests that the authors neither wrote their own bios nor were aware of the pamphlet’s existence.

  3. Philo Vance   Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM

    Goderich did not pick a wrong state or country, she confused two names.

    Barack Hussein Obama, who was born in Kenya and Barack Hussein Obama II who was born in Hawaii.

    But the question is why in publicans that were meant for wide public release does Obama say “born in Hawaii” but in an obscure literary agency bio seen by only by a few thousand does he say “born in Kenya”?

  4. James Carter   Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 9:48 AM

    “Between 1990 and 2000 there are about a dozen published newspaper and magazine articles which say Obama born in Hawaii. Those include his Illinois senate web page.”
    Between 1991 and early April 2007, Obama’s bio in Acton & Dystel’s author bio pamphlet was updated four times to reflect changes in his life but “born in Kenya” wasn’t changed to “born in Hawaii” until AFTER he announced his candidacy for president.
    Between 2004 and 2012 there about half a dozen published newspaper articles and statements from high-ranking Kenyan government officials saying Obama was born in Kenya.
    Between 2004 and 2008 there were several attempts by members of Congress to either eliminate the “natural born Citizen” criteria from Article II, Section 1, Clause V or change that verbiage to mean everything/anything EXCEPT ‘born in the country to citizen parents (plural) of the country’ — evidence that they all knew the latter is what “natural born Citizen” means and were attempting to either remove it or change it to mean something else in time for the 2008 election.

  5. James Carter   Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:59 AM

    “There is no evidence that Obama submitted his bio to Acton & Dystel, and Miriam Goderich said the mistake was hers.”

    What evidence is there that Obama did not submit his bio to Acton & Dystel? In May 2012 Jay Acton, co-founder/owner of Acton-Dystel, told Bribart News that although almost nobody wrote their own bio, non-athletes who Acton-Dystel’s agents dealt with on a daily basis were asked to approve the text of their bios — “almost nobody” leaves open the possibility that Obama did submit his bio to them.

    So, Miriam Goderich simply made a “fact checking mistake” by picking a country instead of a state then simply made another “fact checking mistake” by picking Kenya out of the 200 +/- countries of the world during the period in question? Really? And she updated it four times based on changes in Obama’s life and never noticed those mistakes? Really? And during those sixteen years and after each of those four updates Obama never read it and told her to correct those mistakes? Really?

  6. Philo Vance   Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 12:31 AM

    Sorry, typo. It was 1971 when the USPO became the USPS.

  7. RacerTim   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 1:25 PM

    Between 1990 and 2000 there are about a dozen published newspaper and magazine articles which say Obama born in Hawaii. Those include his Illinois senate web page.

  8. Sue   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 12:01 PM

    President Obama was in the Indonesian Boy Scouts, tRump NEVER was any kind of scout, too bad, he may have learned some ethics.

  9. T.F. B0W   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 10:37 AM

    There is no evidence that Obama submitted his bio to Acton & Dystel, and Miriam Goderich said the mistake was hers.

  10. James Carter   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 9:30 AM

    “The earliest reports of Obama being born in Hawaii were interviews from the spring of 1990 (on his election as president of Harvard’s Law Review) in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune.”

    If that’s true then either Barack Obama Jr. lied in the bio (that he was born in Kenya) he submitted to Acton & Dystel circa 1990-1991 or Miriam Goderich (Acton & Dystel’s agent who handled Obama’s case) miraculously mistook “Hawaii” as “Kenya” as his country of birth when she wrote his bio.

  11. Bruce Steadman   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 9:14 AM

    CNN: Boy Scouts boo President Obama

    https://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/uncategorized/cnn-boy-scouts-boo-president-obama/

  12. Jeffrey Harrison   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 6:31 AM

    Obama as a youth was doing drugs, he wasn’t in scouts earning badges. This is according to a photo I saw of Obama and his own words/remarks. And the rest of his claimed life is a fabrication, too.

  13. Philo Vance   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 1:46 AM

    “At some point before Obama ran for president, he declared himself as born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961 to a U.S.-citizen mother and British-citizen father.”

    The earliest reports of Obama being born in Hawaii were interviews from the spring of 1990 (on his election as president of Harvard’s Law Review) in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune.

  14. Philo Vance   Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 12:57 AM

    There were only two National Jamborees during Obama’s eight year term (2010, 2013). He addressed the 2010 Jamboree by video.

  15. Gary Wilmott   Monday, July 24, 2017 at 11:05 PM

    When? Never.

  16. T.F. B0W   Monday, July 24, 2017 at 10:27 PM

    Boy scouts must be at least 10 years old; cub scouts start at age 7.

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